Noirin treated Siavash the exact same way he treated his Girlfriend

[cammie]

Siavash said he had been with his girlfriend for 'like a month' and so had no problem calling it off for Noirin.

Noirin and Siavash were together for 1 week so she thought it was acceptable to call things off to get back together with Isaac.

Seems like they both did the same thing, but Noirin has come out of it looking bad.

:cloud:

[camertone]

VERY WELL SAID!!

PEOPLE ARE TOO HARSH ON NOIRIN! AND TOO SOFT ON SIAVASH!

DOUBLE STANDARDS! EH?

[fallenkal]

Originally posted by cammie
Siavash said he had been with his girlfriend for 'like a month' and so had no problem calling it off for Noirin.

Noirin and Siavash were together for 1 week so she thought it was acceptable to call things off to get back together with Isaac.

Seems like they both did the same thing, but Noirin has come out of it looking bad.

:cloud:

Wait, *****en called things off? Seems to me she just thought Siavash would get the hint and jumped into Isaac's arms. That ain't calling it off that's being a total *****bitch.

*****en looks bad because she is devoid of a moral compass and is completely egocentric.

[Vicky.]

They are both in the wrong.

The difference is, we can actually see what this is doing to siavash.

If his girlfriend was in there, people would hate him as much.

Out of sight out of mind and all that.

[arsenalforever]

But doesn't excuse noirin behaving the way she's behaving towards him:nono:

[Vicky.]

Originally posted by arsenalforever
But doesn't excuse noirin behaving the way she's behaving towards him:nono:

Exactly, 2 wrongs do not make a right.

[arsenalforever]

Originally posted by VickyJ
Originally posted by arsenalforever
But doesn't excuse noirin behaving the way she's behaving towards him:nono:

Exactly, 2 wrongs do not make a right.

she was really shocked he didn't forgive her yesterday when she said sorry.

noirin taught he play her game and forgive her but i don't think she cares anyway

[cammie]

Originally posted by fallenkal
Originally posted by cammie
Siavash said he had been with his girlfriend for 'like a month' and so had no problem calling it off for Noirin.

Noirin and Siavash were together for 1 week so she thought it was acceptable to call things off to get back together with Isaac.

Seems like they both did the same thing, but Noirin has come out of it looking bad.

:cloud:

Wait, *****en called things off? Seems to me she just thought Siavash would get the hint and jumped into Isaac's arms. That ain't calling it off that's being a total *****bitch.

*****en looks bad because she is devoid of a moral compass and is completely egocentric.

exactly my point - did siavash 'call it off' or did he just let her know it was over by kissing Noirin?:rolleyes:

[Vicky.]

Originally posted by cammie
Originally posted by fallenkal
Originally posted by cammie
Siavash said he had been with his girlfriend for 'like a month' and so had no problem calling it off for Noirin.

Noirin and Siavash were together for 1 week so she thought it was acceptable to call things off to get back together with Isaac.

Seems like they both did the same thing, but Noirin has come out of it looking bad.

:cloud:

Wait, *****en called things off? Seems to me she just thought Siavash would get the hint and jumped into Isaac's arms. That ain't calling it off that's being a total *****bitch.

*****en looks bad because she is devoid of a moral compass and is completely egocentric.

exactly my point - did siavash 'call it off' or did he just let her know it was over by kissing Noirin?:rolleyes:

And again...2 wrongs dont make a right.

And how do you expect him to break it off with his girlfriend? Walk out the door, split up with her, come back in and kiss noirin? :joker:

[arsenalforever]

Originally posted by cammie
Originally posted by fallenkal
Originally posted by cammie
Siavash said he had been with his girlfriend for 'like a month' and so had no problem calling it off for Noirin.

Noirin and Siavash were together for 1 week so she thought it was acceptable to call things off to get back together with Isaac.

Seems like they both did the same thing, but Noirin has come out of it looking bad.

:cloud:

Wait, *****en called things off? Seems to me she just thought Siavash would get the hint and jumped into Isaac's arms. That ain't calling it off that's being a total *****bitch.

*****en looks bad because she is devoid of a moral compass and is completely egocentric.

oh cammie:pat:

exactly my point - did siavash 'call it off' or did he just let her know it was over by kissing Noirin?:rolleyes:

[cammie]

Originally posted by VickyJ
Originally posted by cammie
Originally posted by fallenkal
Originally posted by cammie
Siavash said he had been with his girlfriend for 'like a month' and so had no problem calling it off for Noirin.

Noirin and Siavash were together for 1 week so she thought it was acceptable to call things off to get back together with Isaac.

Seems like they both did the same thing, but Noirin has come out of it looking bad.

:cloud:

Wait, *****en called things off? Seems to me she just thought Siavash would get the hint and jumped into Isaac's arms. That ain't calling it off that's being a total *****bitch.

*****en looks bad because she is devoid of a moral compass and is completely egocentric.

exactly my point - did siavash 'call it off' or did he just let her know it was over by kissing Noirin?:rolleyes:

And again...2 wrongs dont make a right.

And how do you expect him to break it off with his girlfriend? Walk out the door, split up with her, come back in and kiss noirin? :joker:

no, he should have waited until he left the house broken things off with his girlfriend, and then get together with Noirin (if they had still wanted to) If he had done that in the first place none of this mess would have happened.:bored:

[setanta]

Originally posted by cammie
Siavash said he had been with his girlfriend for 'like a month' and so had no problem calling it off for Noirin.

Noirin and Siavash were together for 1 week so she thought it was acceptable to call things off to get back together with Isaac.

Seems like they both did the same thing, but Noirin has come out of it looking bad.

:cloud:

I wouldn't agree there. Siavash has acted like an idiot on national television but he struggled with these feelings for Noirin for quite some time and was well aware of the sacrifices he was making to be with her. Noirin was aware of this too after their conversation the day before.

I cannot understand why she would lead Siavash (one of her best friends in the house) on like this and then toss him aside like a used piece of toilet roll. By asking him if she could get into bed with him and continuing their little kissathons, day in, day out, she assumed a certain responsibility as well as him for their relationship.

But Noirin doesn't do responsible. That gets in the way of having fun, her fun being the manipulation and ultimately abandonment of people. Why even kiss Siavash when you quite obviously had no feelings for him in the first place? Why the stupid performance in the diary room, confessing she had feelings for Siavash, with all Noirin supporters in here slagging me at the time for saying it was bull.

You see, I believe Noirin has a pathology for using and abusing people in the real world that doesn't transfer well into a contained enviroment like Big Brother. There's no shirking of responsibility there- your lack of empathy or awareness comes back to haunt you. I honestly hope she does learn from experience but somehow it's very doubtful.

[fallenkal]

Originally posted by cammie
Originally posted by fallenkal
Originally posted by cammie
Siavash said he had been with his girlfriend for 'like a month' and so had no problem calling it off for Noirin.

Noirin and Siavash were together for 1 week so she thought it was acceptable to call things off to get back together with Isaac.

Seems like they both did the same thing, but Noirin has come out of it looking bad.

:cloud:

Wait, *****en called things off? Seems to me she just thought Siavash would get the hint and jumped into Isaac's arms. That ain't calling it off that's being a total *****bitch.

*****en looks bad because she is devoid of a moral compass and is completely egocentric.

exactly my point - did siavash 'call it off' or did he just let her know it was over by kissing Noirin?:rolleyes:

Your point doesn't hold any weight though. Siavash can't break up with his supposed girlfriend because he's in a situation where he CAN'T interact with her. Why don't people get that?

If they had put Siavash's girlfriend in the house (and Siavash had chosen his outside girlfriend) instead of Isaac do I think that Siavash would have played it like *****en had? NO! The man has some semblance of dignity!

[Vicky.]

Originally posted by cammie

no, he should have waited until he left the house broken things off with his girlfriend, and then get together with Noirin (if they had still wanted to) If he had done that in the first place none of this mess would have happened.:bored:


So siavash is in the wrong for noirin coming across as a total bitch, through her own actions?!

[arsenalforever]

Originally posted by VickyJ
Originally posted by cammie

no, he should have waited until he left the house broken things off with his girlfriend, and then get together with Noirin (if they had still wanted to) If he had done that in the first place none of this mess would have happened.:bored:


So siavash is in the wrong for noirin coming across as a total bitch, through her own actions?!

noirin is at much at fault for stealing another girls fela

she jump on her ex or so she says fella and snogs him

she didn't oncego over to siavash and say she didn't mean this to hapen

both are wrong but of noirin would disagree

[Vicky.]

Originally posted by arsenalforever
Originally posted by VickyJ
Originally posted by cammie

no, he should have waited until he left the house broken things off with his girlfriend, and then get together with Noirin (if they had still wanted to) If he had done that in the first place none of this mess would have happened.:bored:


So siavash is in the wrong for noirin coming across as a total bitch, through her own actions?!

noirin is at much at fault for stealing another girls fela

she jump on her ex or so she says fella and snogs him

she didn't oncego over to siavash and say she didn't mean this to hapen

both are wrong but of noirin would disagree

Ah yes, I forgot, fans of noirin will never admit when she does something wrong, its always someone elses fault isnt it... :laugh2:

[arsenalforever]

Originally posted by VickyJ
Originally posted by arsenalforever
Originally posted by VickyJ
Originally posted by cammie

no, he should have waited until he left the house broken things off with his girlfriend, and then get together with Noirin (if they had still wanted to) If he had done that in the first place none of this mess would have happened.:bored:


So siavash is in the wrong for noirin coming across as a total bitch, through her own actions?!

noirin is at much at fault for stealing another girls fela

she jump on her ex or so she says fella and snogs him

she didn't oncego over to siavash and say she didn't mean this to hapen


both are wrong but of noirin would disagree

Ah yes, I forgot, fans of noirin will never admit when she does something wrong, its always someone elses fault isnt it... :laugh2:

she's one of BB's most cold hesrted Hm's ever and she won't have one friend out of this experience

wait and see her pull of her miss innocence act with davina tonight

[Vicky.]

Originally posted by arsenalforever


she's one of BB's most cold hesrted Hm's ever and she won't have one friend out of this experience

wait and see her pull of her miss innocence act with davina tonight


Yes im dreading that, I should tweet davina and ask her nicely not to be mislead into believing any of the bullshit that will no doubtedly come out of little miss sunshunes mouth....and grill her as bad as she can...

not that that will make a difference like...

[cammie]

Originally posted by fallenkal
Originally posted by cammie
Originally posted by fallenkal
Originally posted by cammie
Siavash said he had been with his girlfriend for 'like a month' and so had no problem calling it off for Noirin.

Noirin and Siavash were together for 1 week so she thought it was acceptable to call things off to get back together with Isaac.

Seems like they both did the same thing, but Noirin has come out of it looking bad.

:cloud:

Wait, *****en called things off? Seems to me she just thought Siavash would get the hint and jumped into Isaac's arms. That ain't calling it off that's being a total *****bitch.

*****en looks bad because she is devoid of a moral compass and is completely egocentric.

exactly my point - did siavash 'call it off' or did he just let her know it was over by kissing Noirin?:rolleyes:

Your point doesn't hold any weight though. Siavash can't break up with his supposed girlfriend because he's in a situation where he CAN'T interact with her. Why don't people get that?

If they had put Siavash's girlfriend in the house (and Siavash had chosen his outside girlfriend) instead of Isaac do I think that Siavash would have played it like *****en had? NO! The man has some semblance of dignity!

exactly! so he should have just left Noirin alone as he wasn't in a position to talk to her, Noirin was single at the time Siavash had a responsibility to respect his girlfriend by maybe acknowledging that he was attracted to Noirin but not to act on that until they left the house - they had 'waited' 7 weeks - what was another 4?

and we have no idea how Siavash would have reacted, he didn't say he was in love with his gf, Noirin told anyone who would listen how she loved Isaac.

[arsenalforever]

Originally posted by VickyJ
Originally posted by arsenalforever


she's one of BB's most cold hesrted Hm's ever and she won't have one friend out of this experience

wait and see her pull of her miss innocence act with davina tonight


Yes im dreading that, I should tweet davina and ask her nicely not to be mislead into believing any of the bullshit that will no doubtedly come out of little miss sunshunes mouth....and grill her as bad as she can...

not that that will make a difference like...

i see the chav audince in BBBM giving her heel but Davinawill praise her for all the men she' fooled and issac

[cammie]

Originally posted by VickyJ
Originally posted by arsenalforever
Originally posted by VickyJ
Originally posted by cammie

no, he should have waited until he left the house broken things off with his girlfriend, and then get together with Noirin (if they had still wanted to) If he had done that in the first place none of this mess would have happened.:bored:


So siavash is in the wrong for noirin coming across as a total bitch, through her own actions?!

noirin is at much at fault for stealing another girls fela

she jump on her ex or so she says fella and snogs him

she didn't oncego over to siavash and say she didn't mean this to hapen

both are wrong but of noirin would disagree

Ah yes, I forgot, fans of noirin will never admit when she does something wrong, its always someone elses fault isnt it... :laugh2:

If you look at the title of my post, you will read that I was saying that both Noirin and Siavash behaved in the same way. that is to say that they BOTH handled it badly.

tbh I assumed that people with half a brain would see that I wasn't saying 'Noirin is perfect' but 'Siavash is equally guilty'

Duh!:laugh:

[Vicky.]

Originally posted by cammie
Originally posted by VickyJ
Originally posted by arsenalforever
Originally posted by VickyJ
Originally posted by cammie

no, he should have waited until he left the house broken things off with his girlfriend, and then get together with Noirin (if they had still wanted to) If he had done that in the first place none of this mess would have happened.:bored:


So siavash is in the wrong for noirin coming across as a total bitch, through her own actions?!

noirin is at much at fault for stealing another girls fela

she jump on her ex or so she says fella and snogs him

she didn't oncego over to siavash and say she didn't mean this to hapen

both are wrong but of noirin would disagree

Ah yes, I forgot, fans of noirin will never admit when she does something wrong, its always someone elses fault isnt it... :laugh2:

If you look at the title of my post, you will read that I was saying that both Noirin and Siavash behaved in the same way. that is to say that they BOTH handled it badly.

tbh I assumed that people with half a brain would see that I wasn't saying 'Noirin is perfect' but 'Siavash is equally guilty'

Duh!:laugh:

I am perfectly aware of what the title of your post is. Duh.

Your replies however to peoples views, have made out that you feel siavash is in some way to blame for noirin acting like a prick.

[cammie]

Originally posted by VickyJ
Originally posted by cammie
Originally posted by VickyJ
Originally posted by arsenalforever
Originally posted by VickyJ
Originally posted by cammie

no, he should have waited until he left the house broken things off with his girlfriend, and then get together with Noirin (if they had still wanted to) If he had done that in the first place none of this mess would have happened.:bored:


So siavash is in the wrong for noirin coming across as a total bitch, through her own actions?!

noirin is at much at fault for stealing another girls fela

she jump on her ex or so she says fella and snogs him

she didn't oncego over to siavash and say she didn't mean this to hapen

both are wrong but of noirin would disagree

Ah yes, I forgot, fans of noirin will never admit when she does something wrong, its always someone elses fault isnt it... :laugh2:

If you look at the title of my post, you will read that I was saying that both Noirin and Siavash behaved in the same way. that is to say that they BOTH handled it badly.

tbh I assumed that people with half a brain would see that I wasn't saying 'Noirin is perfect' but 'Siavash is equally guilty'

Duh!:laugh:

I am perfectly aware of what the title of your post is. Duh.

Your replies however to peoples views, have made out that you feel siavash is in some way to blame for noirin acting like a prick.

No, my posts imply that the general consensus on this forum of 'Siavash, what a saint!' is unfair and very harsh towards Noirin. Duh.

[Vicky.]

Originally posted by cammie


No, my posts imply that the general consensus on this forum of 'Siavash, what a saint' is unfair. Duh.

No, your posts are trying to imply that siavash is to blame for how noirin is acting. And I will not continue writing duh, as I am not a child. I did it once to take the piss, someone is obviously either 13 or very immature.

[cammie]

Originally posted by VickyJ
Originally posted by cammie


No, my posts imply that the general consensus on this forum of 'Siavash, what a saint' is unfair. Duh.

No, your posts are trying to imply that siavash is to blame for how noirin is acting. And I will not continue writing duh, as I am not a child. I did it once to take the p**s, someone is obviously either 13 or very immature.

you're completly unreasonable, I don't dislike Siavash - I just wish that people would realise that he has an equal part to play in all of this and is not merely the 'victim.'

and you're sexist views towards Noirin shows me that the only 13 year old on here is you. obviously you are very emotionally immature to have such a clouded take on things.

[fallenkal]

Originally posted by cammie
Originally posted by fallenkal
Originally posted by cammie
Originally posted by fallenkal
Originally posted by cammie
Siavash said he had been with his girlfriend for 'like a month' and so had no problem calling it off for Noirin.

Noirin and Siavash were together for 1 week so she thought it was acceptable to call things off to get back together with Isaac.

Seems like they both did the same thing, but Noirin has come out of it looking bad.

:cloud:

Wait, *****en called things off? Seems to me she just thought Siavash would get the hint and jumped into Isaac's arms. That ain't calling it off that's being a total *****bitch.

*****en looks bad because she is devoid of a moral compass and is completely egocentric.

exactly my point - did siavash 'call it off' or did he just let her know it was over by kissing Noirin?:rolleyes:

Your point doesn't hold any weight though. Siavash can't break up with his supposed girlfriend because he's in a situation where he CAN'T interact with her. Why don't people get that?

If they had put Siavash's girlfriend in the house (and Siavash had chosen his outside girlfriend) instead of Isaac do I think that Siavash would have played it like *****en had? NO! The man has some semblance of dignity!

exactly! so he should have just left Noirin alone as he wasn't in a position to talk to her, Noirin was single at the time Siavash had a responsibility to respect his girlfriend by maybe acknowledging that he was attracted to Noirin but not to act on that until they left the house - they had 'waited' 7 weeks - what was another 4?

and we have no idea how Siavash would have reacted, he didn't say he was in love with his gf, Noirin told anyone who would listen how she loved Isaac.

I cut Siavash some slack because of his history when he talks about his girlfriend. Initially he had something going on with someone outside the house. Then he had a girlfriend. Then the girlfriend was a lie and he used a fake relationship to distance himself from a romance inside the house. If he doesn't know the status of his own relationship, I sure as hell don't. So, I'm just taking it at face value.

Siavash says he pretended to have a girlfriend so I believe him. *****en said she had an ex boyfriend on the outside that she loved; so I believe her on that too.

However, how much does she really love Isaac when she makes out with a handsome Iranian after a few weeks?

[Vicky.]

Originally posted by cammie
Originally posted by VickyJ
Originally posted by cammie


No, my posts imply that the general consensus on this forum of 'Siavash, what a saint' is unfair. Duh.

No, your posts are trying to imply that siavash is to blame for how noirin is acting. And I will not continue writing duh, as I am not a child. I did it once to take the p**s, someone is obviously either 13 or very immature.

you're completly unreasonable, I don't dislike Siavash - I just wish that people would realise that he has an equal part to play in all of this and is not merely the 'victim.'

and you're sexist views towards Noirin shows me that the only 13 year old on here is you. obviously you are very emotionally immature to have such a clouded take on things.

My sexist views on noirin? If you read back, and also through my other posts i think you may find that I agree siavash was in the wrong also.

[rsefitpro2009]

My take on this is that they have both been in the wrong, As regards to Noirin she has used Siavash likes she has used the other housemates, in the case of Siavash he hurt his girlfriend, it doesn't matter what length of time he has been with his girlfriend, the facts are he hurt her!

It annoys me about Siavash because i keep going on about if that was Freddie? he would be hated big time,, but as it is your precious Siavash who can't do no wrong, he gets sympathy?

Siavash could win based on this stupid sympathy when in truth he is as much to blame as Noirin is!

[cammie]

Originally posted by VickyJ
Originally posted by cammie
Originally posted by VickyJ
Originally posted by cammie


No, my posts imply that the general consensus on this forum of 'Siavash, what a saint' is unfair. Duh.

No, your posts are trying to imply that siavash is to blame for how noirin is acting. And I will not continue writing duh, as I am not a child. I did it once to take the p**s, someone is obviously either 13 or very immature.

you're completly unreasonable, I don't dislike Siavash - I just wish that people would realise that he has an equal part to play in all of this and is not merely the 'victim.'

and you're sexist views towards Noirin shows me that the only 13 year old on here is you. obviously you are very emotionally immature to have such a clouded take on things.

My sexist views on noirin? If you read back, and also through my other posts i think you may find that I agree siavash was in the wrong also.

so then we both misunderstand eachothers posts then:whistle:

[Vicky.]

Originally posted by cammie
Originally posted by VickyJ
Originally posted by cammie
Originally posted by VickyJ
Originally posted by cammie


No, my posts imply that the general consensus on this forum of 'Siavash, what a saint' is unfair. Duh.

No, your posts are trying to imply that siavash is to blame for how noirin is acting. And I will not continue writing duh, as I am not a child. I did it once to take the p**s, someone is obviously either 13 or very immature.

you're completly unreasonable, I don't dislike Siavash - I just wish that people would realise that he has an equal part to play in all of this and is not merely the 'victim.'

and you're sexist views towards Noirin shows me that the only 13 year old on here is you. obviously you are very emotionally immature to have such a clouded take on things.

My sexist views on noirin? If you read back, and also through my other posts i think you may find that I agree siavash was in the wrong also.

so then we both misunderstand eachothers posts then:whistle:

It did come across as you trying to blame siavash for everything though.

My bad :hug:

[Raysquared]

Ugggh you people Siavash doesn't even have a girlfriend!

[cammie]

Originally posted by fallenkal
Originally posted by cammie
Originally posted by fallenkal
Originally posted by cammie
Originally posted by fallenkal
Originally posted by cammie
Siavash said he had been with his girlfriend for 'like a month' and so had no problem calling it off for Noirin.

Noirin and Siavash were together for 1 week so she thought it was acceptable to call things off to get back together with Isaac.

Seems like they both did the same thing, but Noirin has come out of it looking bad.

:cloud:

Wait, *****en called things off? Seems to me she just thought Siavash would get the hint and jumped into Isaac's arms. That ain't calling it off that's being a total *****bitch.

*****en looks bad because she is devoid of a moral compass and is completely egocentric.

exactly my point - did siavash 'call it off' or did he just let her know it was over by kissing Noirin?:rolleyes:

Your point doesn't hold any weight though. Siavash can't break up with his supposed girlfriend because he's in a situation where he CAN'T interact with her. Why don't people get that?

If they had put Siavash's girlfriend in the house (and Siavash had chosen his outside girlfriend) instead of Isaac do I think that Siavash would have played it like *****en had? NO! The man has some semblance of dignity!

exactly! so he should have just left Noirin alone as he wasn't in a position to talk to her, Noirin was single at the time Siavash had a responsibility to respect his girlfriend by maybe acknowledging that he was attracted to Noirin but not to act on that until they left the house - they had 'waited' 7 weeks - what was another 4?

and we have no idea how Siavash would have reacted, he didn't say he was in love with his gf, Noirin told anyone who would listen how she loved Isaac.

I cut Siavash some slack because of his history when he talks about his girlfriend. Initially he had something going on with someone outside the house. Then he had a girlfriend. Then the girlfriend was a lie and he used a fake relationship to distance himself from a romance inside the house. If he doesn't know the status of his own relationship, I sure as hell don't. So, I'm just taking it at face value.

Siavash says he pretended to have a girlfriend so I believe him. *****en said she had an ex boyfriend on the outside that she loved; so I believe her on that too.

However, how much does she really love Isaac when she makes out with a handsome Iranian after a few weeks?

seeing as his 'fake' girlfriend has been on bblb and has also been mentioned in various news stories about her reaction to the kiss, I would think it was safe to say she exists.

Isaac broke up with Noirin, she didn't know he wanted her back, as he refused to ask her to be his girlfriend before she went into the house, and only told her not to kiss anyone. Noirin was single and thought her love for Isaac was one sided (she told Marcus this) it is easy to be attracted to other people and to act impulsively on that, especially being so cut off in the house. the outside world would seem a long way away.

[Vicky.]

Originally posted by Raysquared
Ugggh you people Siavash doesn't even have a girlfriend!

His friend on BBLB said he did.

She has spoken out about it also.

He does/did have a girlfriend

[Raysquared]

Vicky you seem like a reasonable person! But don't you think that people should leave Noirin alone. In my eyes she didnt do anything wrong. She is a grown women and she could do whatever she wants. Lisa and David both think that this is bad but Noirin hasnt even seen her ex in such a long time! And Issac isn't a bad man! I live here in NYC
and I have seen the whole season of the show that he was on. He's such a sarcastic person that might come across of him being cocky, arrogant, or a douche. But people need stop hating on him just because he doesnt have any class and considering he is an american! Wouldnt you agree?

[Vicky.]

Originally posted by Raysquared
Vicky you seem like a reasonable person! But don't you think that people should leave Noirin alone. In my eyes she didnt do anything wrong. She is a grown women and she could do whatever she wants. Lisa and David both think that this is bad but Noirin hasnt even seen her ex in such a long time! And Issac isn't a bad man! I live here in NYC
and I have seen the whole season of the show that he was on. He's such a sarcastic person that might come across of him being cocky, arrogant, or a douche. But people need stop hating on him just because he doesnt have any class and considering he is an american! Wouldnt you agree?

Saying he has no class wont really help your cause.

And about noirin, i feel she WAS in the wrong, yes she is a grown woman who can do what she wants, however this does not give her grounds to play with peoples emotions in the way that she did. She was with siavash, now i dont care how many times people say she wasnt in a relationship with him, they were just friends, she was. You do not snog your friends, sleep with them and chat about the future in a few years time. She dropped him like a hot potato the second isaac walked through the door, which is understandable as she is in love with him, and has said on many occasions. But, she could have at least spoken to siavash about it. And she did not have to laugh about him behind his back. Plus why lie to isaac, saying that she had only kissed siavash once, and that was when she was drnk?

Isaac, I havent fully made my mind up on him yet, he has been hated instantly plainly on his association with noirin, which is unfair, however what I have seen of him on LF tonight, lying there bitching all night, I do not think too highly of him, but i am waiting until Noirin leaves to make proper judgement on him.

[fallenkal]

Originally posted by cammie
Originally posted by fallenkal
Originally posted by cammie
Originally posted by fallenkal
Originally posted by cammie
Originally posted by fallenkal
Originally posted by cammie
Siavash said he had been with his girlfriend for 'like a month' and so had no problem calling it off for Noirin.

Noirin and Siavash were together for 1 week so she thought it was acceptable to call things off to get back together with Isaac.

Seems like they both did the same thing, but Noirin has come out of it looking bad.

:cloud:

Wait, *****en called things off? Seems to me she just thought Siavash would get the hint and jumped into Isaac's arms. That ain't calling it off that's being a total *****bitch.

*****en looks bad because she is devoid of a moral compass and is completely egocentric.

exactly my point - did siavash 'call it off' or did he just let her know it was over by kissing Noirin?:rolleyes:

Your point doesn't hold any weight though. Siavash can't break up with his supposed girlfriend because he's in a situation where he CAN'T interact with her. Why don't people get that?

If they had put Siavash's girlfriend in the house (and Siavash had chosen his outside girlfriend) instead of Isaac do I think that Siavash would have played it like *****en had? NO! The man has some semblance of dignity!

exactly! so he should have just left Noirin alone as he wasn't in a position to talk to her, Noirin was single at the time Siavash had a responsibility to respect his girlfriend by maybe acknowledging that he was attracted to Noirin but not to act on that until they left the house - they had 'waited' 7 weeks - what was another 4?

and we have no idea how Siavash would have reacted, he didn't say he was in love with his gf, Noirin told anyone who would listen how she loved Isaac.

I cut Siavash some slack because of his history when he talks about his girlfriend. Initially he had something going on with someone outside the house. Then he had a girlfriend. Then the girlfriend was a lie and he used a fake relationship to distance himself from a romance inside the house. If he doesn't know the status of his own relationship, I sure as hell don't. So, I'm just taking it at face value.

Siavash says he pretended to have a girlfriend so I believe him. *****en said she had an ex boyfriend on the outside that she loved; so I believe her on that too.

However, how much does she really love Isaac when she makes out with a handsome Iranian after a few weeks?

seeing as his 'fake' girlfriend has been on bblb and has also been mentioned in various news stories about her reaction to the kiss, I would think it was safe to say she exists.

Isaac broke up with Noirin, she didn't know he wanted her back, as he refused to ask her to be his girlfriend before she went into the house, and only told her not to kiss anyone. Noirin was single and thought her love for Isaac was one sided (she told Marcus this) it is easy to be attracted to other people and to act impulsively on that, especially being so cut off in the house. the outside world would seem a long way away.

Ben Roethlisberger jumps into my mind on that note. Odds are you don't know this guy. He's a football player under media spotlight at the moment because some girl he had sex with a year ago is now claiming it was rape. I can't help but draw similarities between this girl and Siavash's girlfriend.

People like their 15 minutes of fame. Siavash's ex seems to be looking for hers. I have to find this BBLB to download it and watch because I never saw it. BUT! If she was truly wounded by Siavash she wouldn't be dumb enough to televise it.

"it is easy to be attracted to other people and to act impulsively on that" even if I took this point of view to be true... even if I fully believed in Siavash's girlfriend to be 100% solid... wouldn't that absolve Siavash? I mean, he is removed from regular society too...

[cammie]

Ben Roethlisberger jumps into my mind on that note. Odds are you don't know this guy. He's a football player under media spotlight at the moment because some girl he had sex with a year ago is now claiming it was rape. I can't help but draw similarities between this girl and Siavash's girlfriend.

People like their 15 minutes of fame. Siavash's ex seems to be looking for hers. I have to find this BBLB to download it and watch because I never saw it. BUT! If she was truly wounded by Siavash she wouldn't be dumb enough to televise it.

"it is easy to be attracted to other people and to act impulsively on that" even if I took this point of view to be true... even if I fully believed in Siavash's girlfriend to be 100% solid... wouldn't that absolve Siavash? I mean, he is removed from regular society too...

It wouldn't absolve him as he was not single at the time, all the other housemates with partners have managed to stay faithful despite being cut off - why couldn't he?

Noirin was single and could act a bit more impulsively.

[fallenkal]

Originally posted by Raysquared
Vicky you seem like a reasonable person! But don't you think that people should leave Noirin alone. In my eyes she didnt do anything wrong. She is a grown women and she could do whatever she wants. Lisa and David both think that this is bad but Noirin hasnt even seen her ex in such a long time! And Issac isn't a bad man! I live here in NYC
and I have seen the whole season of the show that he was on. He's such a sarcastic person that might come across of him being cocky, arrogant, or a douche. But people need stop hating on him just because he doesnt have any class and considering he is an american! Wouldnt you agree?

Alright! Another New Yorker!

Apart from that... *****en is a grown woman and she can do whatever she wants. But when you're judged by a nation they're not going to side with every single house mate all the time. I've said this before, she's an egocentric child...

I haven't really had a bad word to say about Isaac yet. reserving my judgement until I see more of the guy. I just want the bitch to go so I can judge him objectively.

[fallenkal]

Originally posted by cammie
Ben Roethlisberger jumps into my mind on that note. Odds are you don't know this guy. He's a football player under media spotlight at the moment because some girl he had sex with a year ago is now claiming it was rape. I can't help but draw similarities between this girl and Siavash's girlfriend.

People like their 15 minutes of fame. Siavash's ex seems to be looking for hers. I have to find this BBLB to download it and watch because I never saw it. BUT! If she was truly wounded by Siavash she wouldn't be dumb enough to televise it.

"it is easy to be attracted to other people and to act impulsively on that" even if I took this point of view to be true... even if I fully believed in Siavash's girlfriend to be 100% solid... wouldn't that absolve Siavash? I mean, he is removed from regular society too...

It wouldn't absolve him as he was not single at the time, all the other housemates with partners have managed to stay faithful despite being cut off - why couldn't he?

Noirin was single and could act a bit more impulsively.

*****en didn't stay faithful despite being cut off. The difference stands at the fact that Siavash would choose *****en over his girlfriend and *****en just throws guys into a limbo until things work out her way.

Oh what happened? She came out with the only relationship out of her, sree, marcus, halfwit (arguably), siavash. Her "tramp stamp" is the only thing about her that is truthful.