View Full Version : Makosi Out, Kinga In - The Next Twist
InTheHood
29-06-2005, 09:38 AM
Makosi will be asked to leave the house, as the agreement for her work visa is with her hospital job. She has quit this job and is now living illegally in the UK.
Big Brother will not replace her, unless it's with Kinga
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This is doing it's rounds.
Squishums
29-06-2005, 09:39 AM
*Raises an eyebrow* ¬_¬;
I hope to god this is true..were did you get that info from?
lily.
29-06-2005, 09:39 AM
YIKES! I don't think I could handle Kinga going in!
InTheHood
29-06-2005, 09:41 AM
It's been around for a while, but having investigated the Visa conditions, it can take 10 weeks for it to start.
Any idea when she quit her Hospital Job? Was it the 2 weeks before she came in.
These Home Office rules are very strict
Squishums
29-06-2005, 09:47 AM
Nooo! I luff Makosi!!!! I won't allow her to be evicted *Nods*
Lance
29-06-2005, 09:54 AM
If they take Makosi out of that house they may aswell stop BB6haven't they learned anything from the last 5 series?:mad:
InTheHood
29-06-2005, 09:54 AM
It would make great TV :xyxwave:
Romantic Old Bird
29-06-2005, 09:57 AM
As a nurse I can assure you that her work visa will be renewed as soon as she applies - there is an acute shortage of trained nurses in this country and sadly we are pinching them from the third world to make up the gap.
Also she is from Zimbabwe, whose ex-pats have been given a moritorium from being deported at the moment due to the alleged brutality of the Mugabe regime towards those returning home.
All in all, she is not going anywhere I am sure.
lily.
29-06-2005, 10:00 AM
Finally.. someone who is well-informed. Speculation over.. thx R.O.B.
*Crys at the thought of Kinga*
lily.
29-06-2005, 10:02 AM
*offers u a hanky*
*cries with you* :bawling:
*Jnrc and Stropz use up whole box of Andrex, must pop down the supermarket buy some more as the thought of kinga entering the house is tearing them apart inside*
InTheHood
29-06-2005, 10:06 AM
Originally posted by Romantic Old Bird
As a nurse I can assure you that her work visa will be renewed as soon as she applies - there is an acute shortage of trained nurses in this country and sadly we are pinching them from the third world to make up the gap.
Also she is from Zimbabwe, whose ex-pats have been given a moritorium from being deported at the moment due to the alleged brutality of the Mugabe regime towards those returning home.
All in all, she is not going anywhere I am sure.
Not an issue as she has dated Mugabe's Nephew.
InTheHood
29-06-2005, 10:11 AM
I don;'t know if I was read properly, but she has QUIT her job as a nurse. Therefore she is no longer a nurse. She is UNEMPLOYED.
She has 10 weeks from quitting to re-apply.
House = 5 weeks so far, 2 weeks she was hidden away = 7
She may have quit before then.
This is my understanding.
Work permits and Visas are another department than what I work in, so not 100%
lilmissnaughty
29-06-2005, 10:17 AM
I hope its true:conf:
InTheHood
29-06-2005, 10:22 AM
Well, she'll need a HSMP most likely, which takes 3-4 months to be granted after application
However, she must apply no earlier than 1 Month before she needs it and no longer than 3 months before she needs it.
Her conditions will be set out in her Visa (She must be working, and if she stops working, she has a set time to sort our further employment and re-apply)
If the employment for which the work permit was issued ceases prematurely, or a person admitted as a work permit/Visa holder does not take up the employment for which the work permit was issued, the person may be deemed to no longer meet the requirement of the Immigration Rules under which he/she was admitted and action may be taken to curtail their stay, and the stay of any dependants, in the United Kingdom.
Where employment ceases, the conditions attached to any remaining leave to remain will not confer permission to remain for the purpose of seeking alternative employment. If the person has found alternative employment, we may consider a work permit application from the new employer but may not grant further leave to remain in the UK unless it is satisfied that the individual has taken steps to find new employment as quickly as possible.
Squishums
30-06-2005, 12:47 PM
:love:
Slartibartfast
30-06-2005, 01:16 PM
We have a specialist immigration unit in work and they have basically said the same as inthehood said above. If she has quit her job and not got new employment, she is arguably in breach of her leave conditions and could be deported. Somebody mentioned she could be ok if she was on a student visa rather than a work permit, but I don't know if she is and the fact that she was working means she probably isn't on a student visa.
It'll be interesting to see if the Home Office do try to forcibly remove her from the house.
InTheHood
30-06-2005, 01:44 PM
I think, as Romantic Old Bird says, and as indeed Andrew Marr, BBC's political expert says, no-one is being deported to Zimbabwe right now.
Saying that, it doesn't mean anyone can roam freely in the UK. She may be asked to leave the house pending further investigation.
The home office can act when they like.
I don't think it will happen, but I would not rule it out.
~*Xtine*~
30-06-2005, 01:46 PM
is this true or just your oppionion lol hope its true :dance::elephant:
InTheHood
30-06-2005, 01:47 PM
The story is a rumour.
However, the Immigration facts are exactly that, facts.
It all depends when she quit, cos her 14 weeks could be up very soon!
Red Moon
30-06-2005, 01:52 PM
I think it would political a bad move to insist that big brother removed someone from the house especially if they face being deported to Zimbabwe at the moment given the hunger strikes going on in detention centers around the country.
I just can't see it happening!
I suggest that people that feel removing from the house is the wrong thing to should write to their MP. You don't have to write a actual letter just a nice worded e-mail and include your address of course so they can write back with there answer.
InTheHood
30-06-2005, 01:57 PM
Makosi would have no issues in Zimbabwe anyway, considering she's met Mugabe and was dating one of his nephews and knows Mugabe reasonably well.
She won't be deported. She may however be removed from the house, should Home Office officials deem she has a case to answer.
They won't care about a TV game show
Red Moon
30-06-2005, 02:08 PM
Home Office won't care but there political masters will.... they might have just won an election but can you really see them wanting to get involved in a high profile program which is viewed on the whole by people under 30. After all those are the votes they are really after for the next election.
Slartibartfast
30-06-2005, 02:11 PM
Thats an interesting point, but it would mean one rule for Makosi in the BB house, and another rule for all the other immigrants and asylum seekers across the UK. It would set a dangerous precedent, and there has already been one high profile head roll over making special provisions for people (Blunkett anyone?).
Red Moon
30-06-2005, 02:14 PM
I don't know.... it would be easy to say they couldn't interview her because she was on the show. Anyway pulling the favorite to win the show from the house wouldn't make good press.
Slartibartfast
30-06-2005, 02:18 PM
I think the bigger tragedy would be if they really did put Kinga in to replace her!! Losing Makosi to her would be a pretty poor trade! lol
GlitterEyes
30-06-2005, 02:23 PM
Id love Makosi out and kinga in personally...
InTheHood
30-06-2005, 02:32 PM
Originally posted by Red Moon
Home Office won't care but there political masters will.... they might have just won an election but can you really see them wanting to get involved in a high profile program which is viewed on the whole by people under 30. After all those are the votes they are really after for the next election.
I'm not sure that in 4 years time, Makosi being asked to leave the Big Brother house, will have much affect on a General Election.
InTheHood
30-06-2005, 02:35 PM
Originally posted by Red Moon
I don't know.... it would be easy to say they couldn't interview her because she was on the show. Anyway pulling the favorite to win the show from the house wouldn't make good press.
I doubt it would make much good press, but as slatibartfast says (sorry, as I quote this, your name isn't showing so it's probably wrong) why is Makosi anymore special than the next person on a Work Visa?
I doubt Tony Blair has watched a Big Brother show, or what it means.
Linny
30-06-2005, 05:40 PM
I read somewhere that she hasnt exactly quit her job as they are/were suposed to be holding the option open for her after BB finishes or when she bets booted out.
Tanser_Man
30-06-2005, 05:44 PM
I think her going would be a good thing.
Imagine, what would Kemal and Vanessa so then? lol
It would be great.
Red Moon
30-06-2005, 05:47 PM
Originally posted by InTheHood
I doubt it would make much good press, but as slatibartfast says (sorry, as I quote this, your name isn't showing so it's probably wrong) why is Makosi anymore special than the next person on a Work Visa?
Do they get paid for being on Big Brother? If they do she is in work.
I couldn't see the Government not giving a overseas singer a temporary work permit... the same could be arranged for Makosi as an entertainer.
Sits back to wait for all the Makosi is not entertaining replies..... YAWN!
InTheHood
30-06-2005, 05:53 PM
Originally posted by Red Moon
Originally posted by InTheHood
I doubt it would make much good press, but as slatibartfast says (sorry, as I quote this, your name isn't showing so it's probably wrong) why is Makosi anymore special than the next person on a Work Visa?
Do they get paid for being on Big Brother? If they do she is in work.
I couldn't see the Government not giving a overseas singer a temporary work permit... the same could be arranged for Makosi as an entertainer.
Sits back to wait for all the Makosi is not entertaining replies..... YAWN!
It's a different job. If you change jobs, you have to re-apply and your current Visa ends.
The application can take 5-14 weeks. How long before going into the house do they find out they are in BB?
But as Linny says, she may not have quit. I'm only assuming she has as it's what most people say about her job.
If she gets paid to be in BB, she also has to declare that as her Visa permits her to whatever job she puts on the form, she would have to go through another long process for BB.
Red Moon
30-06-2005, 08:21 PM
I guess we will just have to sit back and watch what happens then. It all seems very confusing to me especially since she is from a commonwealth country that rules are so tight.
We exploit them for years and took their gold, but when it comes to them coming here for work they have a hard time of getting a visa.
An application time of 5-14 weeks if far to long... too much red tape if you ask me.
InTheHood
30-06-2005, 08:26 PM
It's like anything in Britain. Something simple that should take very little time, takes ages.
elaniel
01-07-2005, 04:33 PM
why should it matter if its a bad move or there's no food there?
If she doesnt belong she doesnt belong.
Sorry but anyone else here illegally they would get kicked back with no hesitation. Why shouldnt they do the same to her just cause shes on TV right now?
Sorry for the harsh words but... you know.
Originally posted by elaniel
why should it matter if its a bad move or there's no food there?
If she doesnt belong she doesnt belong.
Sorry but anyone else here illegally they would get kicked back with no hesitation. Why shouldnt they do the same to her just cause shes on TV right now?
Sorry for the harsh words but... you know.
i think she shud leave the house, but not leave the country.. especially to evil zimbabwe
InTheHood
01-07-2005, 05:04 PM
I hope if Makosi goes tonight and Kinga goes in, I'm going to get alot of worship.....:joker:
If it doesn't, I'll get my coat :nono:
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