Charlie playing the ill mum card yet again!

[NONESHALLPASS]

Let me start by saying I fully appreciate that his mum being in a coma is awful and I sympathise with that.
But in my opinion what he is now doing is playing this card far too often in order to make people feel guilty about competing against him.
Charlie needs to appreciate that everyone in that house has entered a competition to win, they all have their reasons and people they may want to help with the money etc
I really do not feel its fair for him to keep on about the situation about his mum, I think this is the reason more and more people are saying they want him to win, he has obviously told them his story and they feel guilty now for trying to beat him.

Isaac said the main reason for him wanting to go last night was hearing charlie`s story
Without live feed we cant see what is being said through the day, but it is becoming apparant that charlie is saying about his story on a daily basis.
Now he is talking about charities and wanting to give to needy causes etc
Talking about the starving people abroad etc, bea is engaging him and is genuinely talking about the plight in the third world countries etc
But Im not so sure charlie is as passionate as he would like us to believe.
Wish he would just be himself and stop this guilt trip stuff he is putting on people

[Jayson]

He's over doing it, it's reminding me of the X Factor.

[InOne]

Yeah they seem to be editing that out on the HL's, I only found out about it all yday.

[arsenalforever]

Originally posted by Jayson
He's over doing it, it's reminding me of the X Factor.

your right jay he's over playing it right now and its sicken me:bored:

[MissKittyFantastico]

I'm also starting to think that he must keep mentioning his mum.

The fact that Isaac knew about it when he had only been in the house two days speaks volumes really.

I'm with you, I feel terribly sad for him and his family, but to keep reminding people why you are there and trying to gain sympathy is a bit much.

On the other hand though, BB haven't actually SHOWN us him doing this, so we haven't been influenced by the story of his mum, I doubt very many of the voting public will even know about it tbh.

Him telling the HM's isn't going to help him win, unless we think that every HM who is evicted saying they want Charlie to win may somehow sway people towards voting for him?

[The_Long_Run]

Originally posted by NONESHALLPASS
Let me start by saying I fully appreciate that his mum being in a coma is awful and I sympathise with that.
But in my opinion what he is now doing is playing this card far too often in order to make people feel guilty about competing against him.
Charlie needs to appreciate that everyone in that house has entered a competition to win, they all have their reasons and people they may want to help with the money etc
I really do not feel its fair for him to keep on about the situation about his mum, I think this is the reason more and more people are saying they want him to win, he has obviously told them his story and they feel guilty now for trying to beat him.

Isaac said the main reason for him wanting to go last night was hearing charlie`s story
Without live feed we cant see what is being said through the day, but it is becoming apparant that charlie is saying about his story on a daily basis.
Now he is talking about charities and wanting to give to needy causes etc
Talking about the starving people abroad etc, bea is engaging him and is genuinely talking about the plight in the third world countries etc
But Im not so sure charlie is as passionate as he would like us to believe.
Wish he would just be himself and stop this guilt trip stuff he is putting on people

Charlie IS being himslf. He suffers from Attention Deficit Hypeactivity Disorder as a consequence of a Vagus nerve condition .
His apparent 'back-stabbing' that people refer to is a conseqence of his condition whereby in order to process knowledge he needs to share it. If you watch his so called 'back stabbing' anything he says abut people, he tells them about. he needs to share knowledge to achieve a consensus. He needs to estblish a common Weltanschauung (world view) before he can process knowledge himself. He can't operate in a world with secrets or competing perspectives because he doesn't know what to believe.

[InOne]

I don't think many have said Charlie to win, and it's not like he is really favourite or anything.

[Insane_Spirit]

Originally posted by NONESHALLPASS
Let me start by saying I fully appreciate that his mum being in a coma is awful and I sympathise with that.
But in my opinion what he is now doing is playing this card far too often in order to make people feel guilty about competing against him.
Charlie needs to appreciate that everyone in that house has entered a competition to win, they all have their reasons and people they may want to help with the money etc
I really do not feel its fair for him to keep on about the situation about his mum, I think this is the reason more and more people are saying they want him to win, he has obviously told them his story and they feel guilty now for trying to beat him.

Isaac said the main reason for him wanting to go last night was hearing charlie`s story
Without live feed we cant see what is being said through the day, but it is becoming apparant that charlie is saying about his story on a daily basis.
Now he is talking about charities and wanting to give to needy causes etc
Talking about the starving people abroad etc, bea is engaging him and is genuinely talking about the plight in the third world countries etc
But Im not so sure charlie is as passionate as he would like us to believe.
Wish he would just be himself and stop this guilt trip stuff he is putting on people

:thumbs: I agree, he is playing the guilt card far too often.:nono: I know he may not be aware of what he is doing, but it still has the same effect on the viewer as well as the other HMs.

As for Bea attempting to educate Charlie and Marcus about third world plights, it comes across as both condescending and a little misinformed, but I do applaud her intent.:flower:

[NONESHALLPASS]

Originally posted by MissKittyFantastico
I'm also starting to think that he must keep mentioning his mum.

The fact that Isaac knew about it when he had only been in the house two days speaks volumes really.

I'm with you, I feel terribly sad for him and his family, but to keep reminding people why you are there and trying to gain sympathy is a bit much.

On the other hand though, BB haven't actually SHOWN us him doing this, so we haven't been influenced by the story of his mum, I doubt very many of the voting public will even know about it tbh.

Him telling the HM's isn't going to help him win, unless we think that every HM who is evicted saying they want Charlie to win may somehow sway people towards voting for him? Thats exactly what will happen when the hosuemates are evicted and asked who they would like to win most will say charlie.
Its happened a few times already

[MissKittyFantastico]

Originally posted by The_Long_Run
Originally posted by NONESHALLPASS
Let me start by saying I fully appreciate that his mum being in a coma is awful and I sympathise with that.
But in my opinion what he is now doing is playing this card far too often in order to make people feel guilty about competing against him.
Charlie needs to appreciate that everyone in that house has entered a competition to win, they all have their reasons and people they may want to help with the money etc
I really do not feel its fair for him to keep on about the situation about his mum, I think this is the reason more and more people are saying they want him to win, he has obviously told them his story and they feel guilty now for trying to beat him.

Isaac said the main reason for him wanting to go last night was hearing charlie`s story
Without live feed we cant see what is being said through the day, but it is becoming apparant that charlie is saying about his story on a daily basis.
Now he is talking about charities and wanting to give to needy causes etc
Talking about the starving people abroad etc, bea is engaging him and is genuinely talking about the plight in the third world countries etc
But Im not so sure charlie is as passionate as he would like us to believe.
Wish he would just be himself and stop this guilt trip stuff he is putting on people

Charlie IS being himslf. He suffers from Attention Deficit Hypeactivity Disorder as a consequence of a Vagus nerve condition .
His apparent 'back-stabbing' that people refer to is a conseqence of his condition whereby in order to process knowledge he needs to share it. If you watch his so called 'back stabbing' anything he says abut people, he tells them about. he needs to share knowledge to achieve a consensus. He needs to estblish a common Weltanschauung (world view) before he can process knowledge himself. He can't operate in a world with secrets or competing perspectives because he doesn't know what to believe.

Are you Charlie's doctor or something?

[Insane_Spirit]

Originally posted by NONESHALLPASS
Originally posted by MissKittyFantastico
I'm also starting to think that he must keep mentioning his mum.

The fact that Isaac knew about it when he had only been in the house two days speaks volumes really.

I'm with you, I feel terribly sad for him and his family, but to keep reminding people why you are there and trying to gain sympathy is a bit much.

On the other hand though, BB haven't actually SHOWN us him doing this, so we haven't been influenced by the story of his mum, I doubt very many of the voting public will even know about it tbh.

Him telling the HM's isn't going to help him win, unless we think that every HM who is evicted saying they want Charlie to win may somehow sway people towards voting for him? Thats exactly what will happen when the hosuemates are evicted and asked who they would like to win most will say charlie.
Its happened a few times already

A few people I know have actually gone off Charlie since Noirin said she was backing him to win.:shrug:

[InOne]

Originally posted by MissKittyFantastico
Originally posted by The_Long_Run
Originally posted by NONESHALLPASS
Let me start by saying I fully appreciate that his mum being in a coma is awful and I sympathise with that.
But in my opinion what he is now doing is playing this card far too often in order to make people feel guilty about competing against him.
Charlie needs to appreciate that everyone in that house has entered a competition to win, they all have their reasons and people they may want to help with the money etc
I really do not feel its fair for him to keep on about the situation about his mum, I think this is the reason more and more people are saying they want him to win, he has obviously told them his story and they feel guilty now for trying to beat him.

Isaac said the main reason for him wanting to go last night was hearing charlie`s story
Without live feed we cant see what is being said through the day, but it is becoming apparant that charlie is saying about his story on a daily basis.
Now he is talking about charities and wanting to give to needy causes etc
Talking about the starving people abroad etc, bea is engaging him and is genuinely talking about the plight in the third world countries etc
But Im not so sure charlie is as passionate as he would like us to believe.
Wish he would just be himself and stop this guilt trip stuff he is putting on people

Charlie IS being himslf. He suffers from Attention Deficit Hypeactivity Disorder as a consequence of a Vagus nerve condition .
His apparent 'back-stabbing' that people refer to is a conseqence of his condition whereby in order to process knowledge he needs to share it. If you watch his so called 'back stabbing' anything he says abut people, he tells them about. he needs to share knowledge to achieve a consensus. He needs to estblish a common Weltanschauung (world view) before he can process knowledge himself. He can't operate in a world with secrets or competing perspectives because he doesn't know what to believe.

Are you Charlie's doctor or something?


There is a weird unhealthy obession there lol Charlie has a stalker!

[camertone]

u know pete of bb6 played "god said i will win, if i dont win, god doesn't exist etc.", then he won bb!

maybe manipulating housemates and public obviously works sometimes.

however, charlie's story seems genuine, i think.

charlie does need the money!

his story of gay bashing, coma mama etc are very very sad.

he needs sympathy and empathy.

it is not a bad things if he wins!

[Big_Kahuna]

I think regardless, big bro should give a donation to charlies cause. he's put hours in and entertained us so his loss of time with his mum should be credited to a worthwhile cause

[NONESHALLPASS]

Originally posted by camertone
u know pete of bb6 played "god said i will win, if i dont win, god doesn't exist etc.", then he won bb!

maybe manipulating housemates and public obviously works sometimes.

however, charlie's story seems genuine, i think.

charlie does need the money!

his story of gay bashing, coma mama etc are very very sad.

he needs sympathy and empathy.

it is not a bad things if he wins! He shouldnt win just for that, i have sympathy but i dont want him to win this simply because people are sorry for him.
I want a person who has entertained me to win

And here he is yet again going on abot his mothers story to marcus

[kisywisy]

sorry but if my mum was in a coma, i would talk about it. he doesn't seem like the type of person that would actually use something as serious as that to win a gameshow.

whether the other hm feel bad for him is their choice. they aren't voting for him anyway, it's the public, so it makes no difference and it's not been on the HL shows so can't influence the public

[The_Long_Run]

Originally posted by NONESHALLPASS


And here he is yet again going on abot his mothers story to marcus

What a judgemental expression 'going on about'. He is just telling Marcus how much he loves his Mum. How proud he is of her.

[InOne]

Well just as long as housemates don't nominate him just cos of his sob story.

[NONESHALLPASS]

Originally posted by kisywisy
sorry but if my mum was in a coma, i would talk about it. he doesn't seem like the type of person that would actually use something as serious as that to win a gameshow.

whether the other hm feel bad for him is their choice. they aren't voting for him anyway, it's the public, so it makes no difference and it's not been on the HL shows so can't influence the public IF my mum was in a coma i wouldnt be on BB full stop
I dont care if i had waited 10 years to get on I wouldnt go on knowing my mum was in hospital

I didnt say he shouldt talk about his mum, what i said was he keep repeating the same story about her being in hospital all the time, its apparant that it is affecting h/m`s people are commenting in there all the time how much they would like to see charlie win.
Marcus has said it, freddie has, lisa, kris did, saffia did and noirin did the other night
If he is upset about losing these months with her etc then why enter in the first place? he said its not about the money

[InOne]

When Siavash had the choice to make one housemate immune for nominations, nowwwwwwwwwwwwwww we know why he chose Charlie!

[kisywisy]

Originally posted by InOne
Well just as long as housemates don't nominate him just cos of his sob story.

i think they all nominate people they have had spats with or don't get on with.

don't think he's been nominated yet coz he's not really ruffled any of their feathers except rodrigo

[MissKittyFantastico]

Originally posted by NONESHALLPASS
Originally posted by kisywisy
sorry but if my mum was in a coma, i would talk about it. he doesn't seem like the type of person that would actually use something as serious as that to win a gameshow.

whether the other hm feel bad for him is their choice. they aren't voting for him anyway, it's the public, so it makes no difference and it's not been on the HL shows so can't influence the public IF my mum was in a coma i wouldnt be on BB full stop
I dont care if i had waited 10 years to get on I wouldnt go on knowing my mum was in hospital

I didnt say he shouldt talk about his mum, what i said was he keep repeating the same story about her being in hospital all the time, its apparant that it is affecting h/m`s people are commenting in there all the time how much they would like to see charlie win.
Marcus has said it, freddie has, lisa, kris did, saffia did and noirin did the other night
If he is upset about losing these months with her etc then why enter in the first place? he said its not about the money

I actually said this myself when I first heard about his mum, I don't think I would have gone on a show where I could be gone for 4 months.

How would he feel if she suddenly passed away (God forbid) and he wasn't there with her?

[kisywisy]

Originally posted by NONESHALLPASS
Originally posted by kisywisy
sorry but if my mum was in a coma, i would talk about it. he doesn't seem like the type of person that would actually use something as serious as that to win a gameshow.

whether the other hm feel bad for him is their choice. they aren't voting for him anyway, it's the public, so it makes no difference and it's not been on the HL shows so can't influence the public IF my mum was in a coma i wouldnt be on BB full stop
I dont care if i had waited 10 years to get on I wouldnt go on knowing my mum was in hospital

I didnt say he shouldt talk about his mum, what i said was he keep repeating the same story about her being in hospital all the time, its apparant that it is affecting h/m`s people are commenting in there all the time how much they would like to see charlie win.
Marcus has said it, freddie has, lisa, kris did, saffia did and noirin did the other night
If he is upset about losing these months with her etc then why enter in the first place? he said its not about the money

you have got no proof that he keeps talking about it though. they have got limited things they can talk about in the house, lets be honest. they can either talk about other hm or what's happened in the house or family/friends on the outside.

[NONESHALLPASS]

Originally posted by MissKittyFantastico
Originally posted by NONESHALLPASS
Originally posted by kisywisy
sorry but if my mum was in a coma, i would talk about it. he doesn't seem like the type of person that would actually use something as serious as that to win a gameshow.

whether the other hm feel bad for him is their choice. they aren't voting for him anyway, it's the public, so it makes no difference and it's not been on the HL shows so can't influence the public IF my mum was in a coma i wouldnt be on BB full stop
I dont care if i had waited 10 years to get on I wouldnt go on knowing my mum was in hospital

I didnt say he shouldt talk about his mum, what i said was he keep repeating the same story about her being in hospital all the time, its apparant that it is affecting h/m`s people are commenting in there all the time how much they would like to see charlie win.
Marcus has said it, freddie has, lisa, kris did, saffia did and noirin did the other night
If he is upset about losing these months with her etc then why enter in the first place? he said its not about the money

I actually said this myself when I first heard about his mum, I don't think I would have gone on a show where I could be gone for 4 months.

How would he feel if she suddenly passed away (God forbid) and he wasn't there with her? Probably what he has asked is they keep him informed of any change he needs to know about etc
They usually do that dont they??
It wouldnt be enough for me though, I would have to be near and definately not on BB

[MissKittyFantastico]

Originally posted by InOne
When Siavash had the choice to make one housemate immune for nominations, nowwwwwwwwwwwwwww we know why he chose Charlie!

For God's sake get your facts right.

He chose Marcus.

[kisywisy]

plus, his mum has been in a coma for two years. why should he not go onto big brother?? he's getting on with life, while still thinking about his mum

[MissKittyFantastico]

Originally posted by NONESHALLPASS
Originally posted by MissKittyFantastico
Originally posted by NONESHALLPASS
Originally posted by kisywisy
sorry but if my mum was in a coma, i would talk about it. he doesn't seem like the type of person that would actually use something as serious as that to win a gameshow.

whether the other hm feel bad for him is their choice. they aren't voting for him anyway, it's the public, so it makes no difference and it's not been on the HL shows so can't influence the public IF my mum was in a coma i wouldnt be on BB full stop
I dont care if i had waited 10 years to get on I wouldnt go on knowing my mum was in hospital

I didnt say he shouldt talk about his mum, what i said was he keep repeating the same story about her being in hospital all the time, its apparant that it is affecting h/m`s people are commenting in there all the time how much they would like to see charlie win.
Marcus has said it, freddie has, lisa, kris did, saffia did and noirin did the other night
If he is upset about losing these months with her etc then why enter in the first place? he said its not about the money

I actually said this myself when I first heard about his mum, I don't think I would have gone on a show where I could be gone for 4 months.

How would he feel if she suddenly passed away (God forbid) and he wasn't there with her? Probably what he has asked is they keep him informed of any change he needs to know about etc
They usually do that dont they??
It wouldnt be enough for me though, I would have to be near and definately not on BB

I'm sure he's asked to be kept notified but to be fair she could slip away completely very quickly (my OH's nan was in a coma from the same thing as Charlie's mum and she passed away suddenly and there was nothing they could do).

I'm in agreement with you on this one, I just couldn't not be there, whether she knew I was there or not.

[MissKittyFantastico]

Originally posted by kisywisy
plus, his mum has been in a coma for two years. why should he not go onto big brother?? he's getting on with life, while still thinking about his mum

Maybe it's what his mum would have wanted him to do, and noone saying he shouldn't be on BB, well I'm certainly not.

I'm just saying I couldn't personally do it.

[NONESHALLPASS]

Originally posted by MissKittyFantastico
Originally posted by NONESHALLPASS
Originally posted by MissKittyFantastico
Originally posted by NONESHALLPASS
Originally posted by kisywisy
sorry but if my mum was in a coma, i would talk about it. he doesn't seem like the type of person that would actually use something as serious as that to win a gameshow.

whether the other hm feel bad for him is their choice. they aren't voting for him anyway, it's the public, so it makes no difference and it's not been on the HL shows so can't influence the public IF my mum was in a coma i wouldnt be on BB full stop
I dont care if i had waited 10 years to get on I wouldnt go on knowing my mum was in hospital

I didnt say he shouldt talk about his mum, what i said was he keep repeating the same story about her being in hospital all the time, its apparant that it is affecting h/m`s people are commenting in there all the time how much they would like to see charlie win.
Marcus has said it, freddie has, lisa, kris did, saffia did and noirin did the other night
If he is upset about losing these months with her etc then why enter in the first place? he said its not about the money

I actually said this myself when I first heard about his mum, I don't think I would have gone on a show where I could be gone for 4 months.

How would he feel if she suddenly passed away (God forbid) and he wasn't there with her? Probably what he has asked is they keep him informed of any change he needs to know about etc
They usually do that dont they??
It wouldnt be enough for me though, I would have to be near and definately not on BB

I'm sure he's asked to be kept notified but to be fair she could slip away completely very quickly (my OH's nan was in a coma from the same thing as Charlie's mum and she passed away suddenly and there was nothing they could do).

I'm in agreement with you on this one, I just couldn't not be there, whether she knew I was there or not. Ohh so you know unfortunately how quickly things can happen then sorry to hear about that
Im a huge BB fan and if i got the call and was told your in the house but it was at a time when my mum was really ill and admitted to hospital or if she was already in hospital and had been for some time i would decline any offer to go in.

[NONESHALLPASS]

Originally posted by MissKittyFantastico
Originally posted by kisywisy
plus, his mum has been in a coma for two years. why should he not go onto big brother?? he's getting on with life, while still thinking about his mum

Maybe it's what his mum would have wanted him to do, and noone saying he shouldn't be on BB, well I'm certainly not.

I'm just saying I couldn't personally do it. I agree with you there its purely what I would do

[alchemists1]

Charlie is a fake and everything he does lately there seems to be an agenda behind it,fair enough its a shame about his mum but every1 has there own sob stories but dont feel the need to keep mentioning it,remember when he got a bb wish ! if he was so concered about his mum why did he choose to have a big mac meal instead of a letter from home!

[quietman1963]

Originally posted by The_Long_Run
Originally posted by NONESHALLPASS
Let me start by saying I fully appreciate that his mum being in a coma is awful and I sympathise with that.
But in my opinion what he is now doing is playing this card far too often in order to make people feel guilty about competing against him.
Charlie needs to appreciate that everyone in that house has entered a competition to win, they all have their reasons and people they may want to help with the money etc
I really do not feel its fair for him to keep on about the situation about his mum, I think this is the reason more and more people are saying they want him to win, he has obviously told them his story and they feel guilty now for trying to beat him.

Isaac said the main reason for him wanting to go last night was hearing charlie`s story
Without live feed we cant see what is being said through the day, but it is becoming apparant that charlie is saying about his story on a daily basis.
Now he is talking about charities and wanting to give to needy causes etc
Talking about the starving people abroad etc, bea is engaging him and is genuinely talking about the plight in the third world countries etc
But Im not so sure charlie is as passionate as he would like us to believe.
Wish he would just be himself and stop this guilt trip stuff he is putting on people

Charlie IS being himslf. He suffers from Attention Deficit Hypeactivity Disorder as a consequence of a Vagus nerve condition .
His apparent 'back-stabbing' that people refer to is a conseqence of his condition whereby in order to process knowledge he needs to share it. If you watch his so called 'back stabbing' anything he says abut people, he tells them about. he needs to share knowledge to achieve a consensus. He needs to estblish a common Weltanschauung (world view) before he can process knowledge himself. He can't operate in a world with secrets or competing perspectives because he doesn't know what to believe.

ADHD does not turn you into a backstabber or **** stirrer. I think yiou are making up pathetic excuses for his vile behaviour.

[alchemists1]

The adhd excuse is just that another excuse,some people try to justify all the shiet stirring and nasty things he does when he is just plain fake.

[Speedy]

What if his mother wakes up......

Mother: " Where's Charlie?"
Nurse: "His in the BB house partying it up!"
Mother: "WTF, I'm gunna kill him!!!!!!"

[Speedy]

David just said to Lisa "I want Charlie to win, its the principle."

[cookiemonster]

i don't think any of you can comment, imagine how hard it must be for him. i'm not putting the sympathy card on him as i wouldn't choose him to win but have some bloody empathy.

[DiamondDogTags]

Sob stories on TV are awful, so many on BGT, X-factor, AI.. Every year they seem to get more and more depressing. I think sometimes it is geniune, others it's a ploy for the sympathy vote but I think it does some harm because noone deserves to win on sympathy and it ends up turning a lot of people off.

[HalfwitFTW]

Originally posted by cookiemonster
i don't think any of you can comment, imagine how hard it must be for him. i'm not putting the sympathy card on him as i wouldn't choose him to win but have some bloody empathy.

He's in there singing and dancing, playing pranks on people, sunbathing and having a laugh. It certainly doesn't look like it's been hard on him.

[arsenalforever]

Originally posted by HalfwitFTW
Originally posted by cookiemonster
i don't think any of you can comment, imagine how hard it must be for him. i'm not putting the sympathy card on him as i wouldn't choose him to win but have some bloody empathy.

He's in there singing and dancing, playing pranks on people, sunbathing and having a laugh. It certainly doesn't look like it's been hard on him.

true, its the pity card been shown every Hm has it

[Lauren]

Originally posted by HalfwitFTW
Originally posted by cookiemonster
i don't think any of you can comment, imagine how hard it must be for him. i'm not putting the sympathy card on him as i wouldn't choose him to win but have some bloody empathy.

He's in there singing and dancing, playing pranks on people, sunbathing and having a laugh. It certainly doesn't look like it's been hard on him.

I'm sorry but this makes me sick. His MUM is in a coma, she's non responsive to her son!! How do you think that makes him feel?

How do you expect him to react? Moping around EVERY day that she's in a coma, constantly reminding himself he can't joke, laugh, smile, have fun... because his mum back home is in a vegetative state.

Whether you like the HM or not (I don't), have some compassion at least, this is the sort of thing that can destroy someones emotions. I'm not saying want him to win, or vote to keep him in, but certainly don't underestimate the effect something like this could have on someone.

[Daffodil]

No amount of money is going to suddenly bring Charlie's Mum out of a coma. He is using the pity card to win the money and the fame for himself. He does NOT need money for her care, the NHS will be doing it for free. Every one of the contestants will have had some sort of personal tragedy in their life to cope with, some maybe even worse than his ... but they choose dignity, honesty and confidentiality over the need for £100,000.
Charlie is always saying things like 'I always see the good in people' or 'I've got a heart of gold I have'. How on Earth can anyone be objective when describing themselves?? Most of us wouldn't have the cheek to show off like that.
And let us not forget the bullying of Freddie that he and Kris did, or the splashing of Angel or the tittle tattling and spreading of gossip that he is good at.
Maybe he should also stop and think of all the people that may have actually lost one parent in childhood, or become orphaned.
I don't buy his constant self-praise.
Get him out.

[faty32]

My mum has died 11 years ago, but if she was in a coma i ouldn't leave her side for more than a day!!! I ould certantly not go into a game that could take up to 3 month!!!

[hotspur95]

Originally posted by The_Long_Run


Charlie IS being himslf. He suffers from Attention Deficit Hypeactivity Disorder as a consequence of a Vagus nerve condition .
His apparent 'back-stabbing' that people refer to is a conseqence of his condition whereby in order to process knowledge he needs to share it. If you watch his so called 'back stabbing' anything he says abut people, he tells them about. he needs to share knowledge to achieve a consensus. He needs to estblish a common Weltanschauung (world view) before he can process knowledge himself. He can't operate in a world with secrets or competing perspectives because he doesn't know what to believe.


Isn't that just a very techinal way of saying he's thick?
:conf:

[faty32]

Originally posted by hotspur95
Originally posted by The_Long_Run


Charlie IS being himslf. He suffers from Attention Deficit Hypeactivity Disorder as a consequence of a Vagus nerve condition .
His apparent 'back-stabbing' that people refer to is a conseqence of his condition whereby in order to process knowledge he needs to share it. If you watch his so called 'back stabbing' anything he says abut people, he tells them about. he needs to share knowledge to achieve a consensus. He needs to estblish a common Weltanschauung (world view) before he can process knowledge himself. He can't operate in a world with secrets or competing perspectives because he doesn't know what to believe.


Isn't that just a very techinal way of saying he's thick?
:conf:

[faty32]

just a way of sayng he is using a wild card he shouldn't

[Lauren]

Originally posted by hotspur95
Originally posted by The_Long_Run


Charlie IS being himslf. He suffers from Attention Deficit Hypeactivity Disorder as a consequence of a Vagus nerve condition .
His apparent 'back-stabbing' that people refer to is a conseqence of his condition whereby in order to process knowledge he needs to share it. If you watch his so called 'back stabbing' anything he says abut people, he tells them about. he needs to share knowledge to achieve a consensus. He needs to estblish a common Weltanschauung (world view) before he can process knowledge himself. He can't operate in a world with secrets or competing perspectives because he doesn't know what to believe.


Isn't that just a very techinal way of saying he's thick?
:conf:

No. It's a technical way of saying he has a disorder.

[Lauren]

Originally posted by Daffodil
No amount of money is going to suddenly bring Charlie's Mum out of a coma.

What, so you expect people who have ill mothers NOT to go onto a reality TV show? Cos if they did, and the story came out (which it will, because it takes up a large part of your life so invariably you're bound to mention it in the house) - you'd be going for the "pity" card.

No, his mum being in a coma and him being on Big Brother are two independent things. He's never once suggested they're one and the same.

[Lauren]

Originally posted by faty32
My mum has died 11 years ago, but if she was in a coma i ouldn't leave her side for more than a day!!! I ould certantly not go into a game that could take up to 3 month!!!

You're not Charlie. Everyone is different. If you were willing to sit in your house for 2 years beside someone bed-ridden then okay - but obviously he isn't - it doesn't make you more of a person or he less.

[The_Long_Run]

A red-top tabloid tells us she is ' a coma'. Why does everyone believe this crap.

People talk about her being 'unresponsive'. This is NOT true and she encouraged him to follow his long held dream of being in the BB House. He loves his mother with all his heart and is immensely proud of her, as is she of him. She will be watching from hospital and they have agreed that it will be good for her to have the opportunity to watch her beloved sun fulfilling his dream.

He comes across as 'too good to be true' with his gentleness and peacemaker role, trying to make everone get on. He is trying to be good to make his mum proud of him, nothing to do with winning MONEY!

Get real you set of heartless cynical ghouls, who would eather watch a "train wreck" in BB than a harmonious house. Thank God Charlie is protected from seeing this crapola whilst he is in the house.

[28thapril]

If he was that bothered he shoud've stayed at home with her :conf:

Did he think out of 22 people he could win by telling them about his mum I don't think so it's a game and they all want the money and some need it more than most:thumbs:

[Lauren]

Originally posted by 28thapril
If he was that bothered he shoud've stayed at home with her :conf:

Did he think out of 22 people he could win by telling them about his mum I don't think so it's a game and they all want the money and some need it more than most:thumbs:

He didn't tell them about his mum to win, christ. He didn't even mention the money at all. OBVIOUSLY his mum being in this condition would be something to talk about, I imagine this heartbreaking thing has consumed his life for 2 years!

AND you say he should stay at home with her? For 2 years? Never to leave the house, follow his dreams, get a job, get a life? Of course he's meant to get on with his life, it doesn't mean he can't be completely destroyed by this.

[Cody™]

And for this reason alone i hope it doesnt work out for him. There more desperate someone becomes to win, the further the British public should throw them off the pedestool! Charlie cannot win!

[Lauren]

Originally posted by Cody™
And for this reason alone i hope it doesnt work out for him. There more desperate someone becomes to win, the further the British public should throw them off the pedestool! Charlie cannot win!

He hasn't mentioned his mum synonymous with winning! It just came up in conversation, as it would - since it's consumed his life. I don't think he should win either, but on the basis that he's not my favourite housemate.

I wouldn't for one moment think of saying about ANYONE "they shouldn't win because their mum is disabled, lets knock them off that pedestal".

[mrsme]

you lot really make me sick.
what right have you got to judge him. I for one have never heard him talk about his mum being in a coma, and I certainly haven't heard him try to influence people by "going on about it".
WHY shouldn't he be in the big brother house? We are the ones who decide who wins the money, noone else. I don't vote for someone because they have a particular cause, I vote for whoever has entertained me the most. Charlie is a young lad. He comes across to me as being a little immature, and whilst I wouldn't go on the show if my mother was in hospital, each to his own. I wouldn't go on the show full stop, but that doesn't mean no one should.
Pepole are far too judgemental without knowing facts these days. How many times have YOU heard Charlie "go on" about his personal circumstances?

[redder8]

I just think he is a knob, who thinks he is so entertaining and thinks he is going to win.
The sooner he goes the better.

[irishaddict]

Well I have watched in from the start and the first i heard was when Iassc mentioned it - not Charlie! I would be talking about my family if i were away from them - sick or not! It is easy for people to judge when u arnt going through it yourself!

[Annmarie]

I think this thread should be deleted. It's one thing slagging a hm off but it's another when it's gets to a personal level like this has.

[NadiasWilly]

I don't think he does talk about it a lot. I only learnt of it when Isaac mentioned it on BBBM. And I can't imagine that he would go up to a newbie like Isaac and start randomly talking about his Mother being ill.

It's more likely that Noirin mentioned it to Isaac and then maybe isaac brought it up in conversation with Charlie.

[wozzup69]

Get him out. Can't stand him. Snake.

[squinky]

im appalled by the attitudes of some people,iwould hardly call it a "sob story",that is a pretty cold thing to say.you would have to be one sick **** to use someones illness to your own advantage,and i dont believe for one moment that charlie,or most people for that matter would behave that way.id not even heard about it until i read this thread,so how can it be said that he keeps going on about it.and ffs,even if he does...so what,its his mum.its so easy for people to be sanctimonious and say,well i wouldnt have even gone in the house,what is he supposed to do,sit by her bed 24/7.i went through something similar,with my dad,and i couldnt have been there all the time,it just wasnt possible.its easy to judge when you have never been in that situation.when my dad did finally pass away, someone accussed me of attempting to get sympathy,now that was sick.

[Vicky.]

He probably thinks that everytime he mentions it, its shown on the HLs.

Glad BB arent playing along with the game

If we voted for who had the worst sob story, he won win, hands down. But if we are doing this then why not just go give the hundred grand to the cancer ward at the childrens hospital and be done with it.

[HalfwitFTW]

Originally posted by Lauren
Originally posted by HalfwitFTW
Originally posted by cookiemonster
i don't think any of you can comment, imagine how hard it must be for him. i'm not putting the sympathy card on him as i wouldn't choose him to win but have some bloody empathy.

He's in there singing and dancing, playing pranks on people, sunbathing and having a laugh. It certainly doesn't look like it's been hard on him.

I'm sorry but this makes me sick. His MUM is in a coma, she's non responsive to her son!! How do you think that makes him feel?

How do you expect him to react? Moping around EVERY day that she's in a coma, constantly reminding himself he can't joke, laugh, smile, have fun... because his mum back home is in a vegetative state.

Whether you like the HM or not (I don't), have some compassion at least, this is the sort of thing that can destroy someones emotions. I'm not saying want him to win, or vote to keep him in, but certainly don't underestimate the effect something like this could have on someone.

I didn't mean it in a bad way... just stating the obvious. Are you saying he ISN'T in there singing and dancing, playing pranks on people, sunbathing and having a laugh?

[BONNEIP]

Tell you something if my ma, was in a coma. There's no way in hell i wouldn't be with her, right beside her bed every day she had left or till she was well. So ok he needs the cash, but he had a job before BB.

[luminoussun]

He told isaac about it the first night he met him.
It worked as isaac wanted him to win

[boomoo]

A number of housemates said when they first met Charlie they thought he would win.

This was before he had a chance to tell anyone about his home circumstances.

It would have been a total bore if Charlie had not been on the programme.
I am not sure he will win but he is moving up the favourite list all the time.

[marcpaygnard]

HIS VILE!!

He is playing the victim card so often, that its actually summit he thinks he can use to his advantage. Its sick! i personally hope that the other housemate suss him out soon, and put him up for nomination...


I think its time charlie left the house!!

GET CHARLIE OUT!!

:hello:

[santaa]

Whats wrong with his mum. Ive never heard it mentioned on the show

[Vicky.]

Originally posted by santaa
Whats wrong with his mum. Ive never heard it mentioned on the show

LOL are you joking?!

[SoberLikeGizmo]

Their being good and cutting it out.

Shes in a coma or dying or something like that, and he wants her to be proud by hearing his voice on tv...... that would make her go into a deeper coma!

[marcpaygnard]

ARE YOU KIDDING!?!


Thats his card his been using to avoid nominations since the day he entered!


His a Snake! I can see thru him, and wudnt trust him to tell me the time!


GET CHARLIE OUT!!
:yuk:

[brian3]

what the hell is he doing on big brother if he cares about her that much

[dialsq]

Originally posted by NONESHALLPASS
Originally posted by MissKittyFantastico
Originally posted by NONESHALLPASS
Originally posted by kisywisy
sorry but if my mum was in a coma, i would talk about it. he doesn't seem like the type of person that would actually use something as serious as that to win a gameshow.

whether the other hm feel bad for him is their choice. they aren't voting for him anyway, it's the public, so it makes no difference and it's not been on the HL shows so can't influence the public IF my mum was in a coma i wouldnt be on BB full stop
I dont care if i had waited 10 years to get on I wouldnt go on knowing my mum was in hospital

I didnt say he shouldt talk about his mum, what i said was he keep repeating the same story about her being in hospital all the time, its apparant that it is affecting h/m`s people are commenting in there all the time how much they would like to see charlie win.
Marcus has said it, freddie has, lisa, kris did, saffia did and noirin did the other night
If he is upset about losing these months with her etc then why enter in the first place? he said its not about the money

I actually said this myself when I first heard about his mum, I don't think I would have gone on a show where I could be gone for 4 months.

How would he feel if she suddenly passed away (God forbid) and he wasn't there with her? Probably what he has asked is they keep him informed of any change he needs to know about etc
They usually do that dont they??
It wouldnt be enough for me though, I would have to be near and definately not on BB

Couldnt agree more :thumbs:

[santaa]

Thanks but details of illness sketchy.I imagine BBwould inform him if there was any change in her condition. Seems a strange thing for him to do nevertheless.

[Akerbie]

Originally posted by MissKittyFantastico
Originally posted by InOne
When Siavash had the choice to make one housemate immune for nominations, nowwwwwwwwwwwwwww we know why he chose Charlie!

For God's sake get your facts right.

He chose Marcus.

Quite right! Charlie was exempt from nominating anybody else,... but I got the feeling that the other housemates thought that they couldn't nominate him too. He didn't get one vote.:bawling:

[minx36]

This is the first I have heard of it!

I'm quite shocked, I'm not sure I'd be in the house in his position, but that said, I don't like Charlie but do not think he comes across as mentioning his family plight too often at all!

[BBmassive]

I can HONESTLY say I have never heard him mention his Mum ,and Im no Charlie fan ,but in truth I have never heard him

[kathypink]

Sorry, but if my Mum or any close member of my family was in a coma, I would not go into the BB house. I would want to be with her. Okay, so he thinks he may win the money to help her and other charities, but there's absolutely no guarantee of this. So why risk being away from your loved one for all those weeks?

[philmurph]

This thread is sick, you should all be ashamed of yourselves. Lets hope none of your family members fall ill because karma's a bitch

[Vicky.]

Originally posted by BBmassive
I can HONESTLY say I have never heard him mention his Mum ,and Im no Charlie fan ,but in truth I have never heard him

he did it most recently 2 nights ago on LF.


If i win the money will go to my mum who is in a coma and i will do a sponsored bike ride.

Or words to that effect.

[Vicky.]

Originally posted by philmurph
This thread is sick, you should all be ashamed of yourselves. Lets hope none of your family members fall ill because karma's a bitch

if one of my family members was seriously ill though, i would not go on a show like big brother where i could be away from them for months on end. If it was my mother i sure as hell wouldnt leave her bedside. :rolleyes:

[Angus]

Originally posted by The_Long_Run
Originally posted by NONESHALLPASS
Let me start by saying I fully appreciate that his mum being in a coma is awful and I sympathise with that.
But in my opinion what he is now doing is playing this card far too often in order to make people feel guilty about competing against him.
Charlie needs to appreciate that everyone in that house has entered a competition to win, they all have their reasons and people they may want to help with the money etc
I really do not feel its fair for him to keep on about the situation about his mum, I think this is the reason more and more people are saying they want him to win, he has obviously told them his story and they feel guilty now for trying to beat him.

Isaac said the main reason for him wanting to go last night was hearing charlie`s story
Without live feed we cant see what is being said through the day, but it is becoming apparant that charlie is saying about his story on a daily basis.
Now he is talking about charities and wanting to give to needy causes etc
Talking about the starving people abroad etc, bea is engaging him and is genuinely talking about the plight in the third world countries etc
But Im not so sure charlie is as passionate as he would like us to believe.
Wish he would just be himself and stop this guilt trip stuff he is putting on people

Charlie IS being himslf. He suffers from Attention Deficit Hypeactivity Disorder as a consequence of a Vagus nerve condition .
His apparent 'back-stabbing' that people refer to is a conseqence of his condition whereby in order to process knowledge he needs to share it. If you watch his so called 'back stabbing' anything he says abut people, he tells them about. he needs to share knowledge to achieve a consensus. He needs to estblish a common Weltanschauung (world view) before he can process knowledge himself. He can't operate in a world with secrets or competing perspectives because he doesn't know what to believe.

In my professional opinion Charlie suffers from Hyper Self Obsession Disorder as a consequence of being a selfish bastard.
His blatant 'back-stabbing' that people refer to is a consequence of his condition whereby in order to process
knowledge he needs to twist it in order to disseminate it. If you watch his methods of "back stabbing", anything he says about people, he will deny later or apologise by saying "I was only joking".
He needs to reduce everything to the lowest common denominator and preferably to words of one syllable, in order to understand it. He cannot operate in a world where his secrets are discovered or where others' perspectives of him are anything other than positive, because that would invalidate his facade as the "cheeky fun loving chappie whose mum is in a coma, so he deserves to win"gameplan.:wink:

[The_Long_Run]

Originally posted by VickyJ
Originally posted by BBmassive
I can HONESTLY say I have never heard him mention his Mum ,and Im no Charlie fan ,but in truth I have never heard him

he did it most recently 2 nights ago on LF.


If i win the money will go to my mum who is in a coma and i will do a sponsored bike ride.

Or words to that effect.

This is called guilt by vague suggestion! "words to that effect" for Gods sake! Are you deliberastely trying to undermine him simply because for whatever reason you don't like him. Please stick to only making positive comments about your favourites. It is the new theme for this week, positivity.

There is too much "negativity" surrounding BB this year I'm told. LOL