sorry but halfwick is a big headed arrogant ***

[tpau21]

sorry he thinks he is too good and its a shamew i really liked freddie when the others were pikcing on him but he has turned into a nob



Edit. Language.

[Savetherainforest]

He has to go...oh and grab bea's coat while your there freddie there's a love.

[Brad.]

Marcus is NOT vile, he is a pure legend

[NettoSuperstar!]

So Halfwits a nob for exposing the vile bullies and telling them exactly what he thinks of them? He's a friggin hero mate

[Twilight]

Originally posted by NettoSuperstar!
So Halfwits a nob for exposing the vile bullies and telling them exactly what he thinks of them? He's a friggin hero mate You go girl:lovedup:

[nickc25]

Why can't people make posts without swearing on this forum?

I really find it annoying that people liked freddie when he was being bullied, but they do not like him now he is standing up for himself? Just really does not make sense to be honest. Unless people like to see people being bullied so they can feel sorry for them? Very strange. Good on freddie for standing up to Lisa and giving the house some home truths

What he said was factual, the public have kept him in many times and there is nothing wrong with him bringing it up, it has given him much needed confidence.

[MrsTIL]

I thought last night half wit was brilliant it was so so so funny! haha xxx

[BigBrotherfan4ever]

Originally posted by tpau21
sorry he thinks he is too good and its a shamew i really liked freddie when the others were pikcing on him but he has turned into a nob

and sorry marcus fans that are all over these forums

marcus is a ***** vile fuker too!! Well said, i totally agree with everything you've just said:thumbs:

[Niamh.]

Originally posted by NettoSuperstar!
So Halfwits a nob for exposing the vile bullies and telling them exactly what he thinks of them? He's a friggin hero mate

No, He's knob for turning into a bully himself!!! David never bullied anyone!

[BigBrotherfan4ever]

Originally posted by Bradley.
Marcus is NOT vile, he is a pure legend Totally disagree with you there sorry.

[hennessy]

tpau21 this thread has really backfired hasn't it?
:whistle:

[Savetherainforest]

Its not nice for anyone to be bullied...But he was having a conversation with Roddy and then attacked David..David never bullied freddie in the weeks freedie was up cos david was not there...Freddie is getting aggressive and too big for his boots now he has queen bea and marcus, he has seen them attack david and now he is having a go..what he says to lisa is another issue. I cannot stand anyone being bullied freddie should know better cos he has had the same treatment and now is instigating it to another. David may not be the brightest spark by shoosing lisa but somehow he feels he can communicate with her without feeling stupid, and sorry but freddie and bea make him feel that way.....shame on them.

[nickc25]

Originally posted by Savetherainforest
Its not nice for anyone to be bullied...But he was having a conversation with Roddy and then attacked David..David never bullied freddie in the weeks freedie was up cos david was not there...Freddie is getting aggressive and too big for his boots now he has queen bea and marcus, he has seen them attack david and now he is having a go..what he says to lisa is another issue. I cannot stand anyone being bullied freddie should know better cos he has had the same treatment and now is instigating it to another. David may not be the brightest spark by shoosing lisa but somehow he feels he can communicate with her without feeling stupid, and sorry but freddie and bea make him feel that way.....shame on them.

He did not attack david at all. So now giving someone your opinion without raising your voice is bullying? No chance.

David started off saying "pathetic" about 20,000 times with that silly look on his face and then said about Bea he has figured her out without then backing it up with facts too! As Marcus said, he can't say something like that without backing it up.

[albie]

Freddy was NOT standing up for himself. He was attacking people for reasons that have NOTHING to do with him. It was just a vile childish Lord of The Flies attack. But it takes a keen mind to filter the evidence of this. I don't put it past most folk to not get it.

[BBmassive]

Originally posted by tpau21
sorry he thinks he is too good and its a shamew i really liked freddie when the others were pikcing on him but he has turned into a nob

and sorry marcus fans that are all over these forums

marcus is a ***** vile fuker too!! Agree with both :thumbs::thumbs:

[saraholeila]

I always thought of Freddie as a snobbish idiot, and now I've FINALLY been proved right. Get him OUT! He's a fake, and a pain in the arse.

[Savetherainforest]

Originally posted by nickc25
Originally posted by Savetherainforest
Its not nice for anyone to be bullied...But he was having a conversation with Roddy and then attacked David..David never bullied freddie in the weeks freedie was up cos david was not there...Freddie is getting aggressive and too big for his boots now he has queen bea and marcus, he has seen them attack david and now he is having a go..what he says to lisa is another issue. I cannot stand anyone being bullied freddie should know better cos he has had the same treatment and now is instigating it to another. David may not be the brightest spark by shoosing lisa but somehow he feels he can communicate with her without feeling stupid, and sorry but freddie and bea make him feel that way.....shame on them.

He did not attack david at all. So now giving someone your opinion without raising your voice is bullying? No chance.

David started off saying "pathetic" about 20,000 times with that silly look on his face and then said about Bea he has figured her out without then backing it up with facts too! As Marcus said, he can't say something like that without backing it up.

And that is to do with Bea and David not Freddie..he would not have said anything if he did not have marcus and Bea there..That is a sad fact, freddie and bea are made for eachother they cannot keep their noses out of other people's issues...Freddie and bea are cowards with a pack attack attitude..safer in numbers.

[BBmassive]

Originally posted by Savetherainforest
Originally posted by nickc25
Originally posted by Savetherainforest
Its not nice for anyone to be bullied...But he was having a conversation with Roddy and then attacked David..David never bullied freddie in the weeks freedie was up cos david was not there...Freddie is getting aggressive and too big for his boots now he has queen bea and marcus, he has seen them attack david and now he is having a go..what he says to lisa is another issue. I cannot stand anyone being bullied freddie should know better cos he has had the same treatment and now is instigating it to another. David may not be the brightest spark by shoosing lisa but somehow he feels he can communicate with her without feeling stupid, and sorry but freddie and bea make him feel that way.....shame on them.

He did not attack david at all. So now giving someone your opinion without raising your voice is bullying? No chance.

David started off saying "pathetic" about 20,000 times with that silly look on his face and then said about Bea he has figured her out without then backing it up with facts too! As Marcus said, he can't say something like that without backing it up. Agree 100% ,Freddie has hated Lisa for a long time ,hes backstabbed her ,but from somewhere yesterday he got himself a pair of bolox ,but he went too far ,the REAL him emerged from the mist ,and it wasnt pretty ,i think (my opinion) and hope that last night he lost the chance he had of winning bb10

And that is to do with Bea and David not Freddie..he would not have said anything if he did not have marcus and Bea there..That is a sad fact, freddie and bea are made for eachother they cannot keep their noses out of other people's issues...Freddie and bea are cowards with a pack attack attitude..safer in numbers. Agree 100% ,Freddie has hated Lisa for a long time ,hes backstabbed her ,but from somewhere yesterday he got himself a pair of bolox ,but he went too far ,the REAL him emerged from the mist ,and it wasnt pretty ,i think (my opinion) and hope that last night he lost the chance he had of winning bb10

[albie]

Anyone who says they wouldn't derive pleasure from slapping Freddie is a liar. He's a major trouser pole.

[Vicky.]

Originally posted by albie
Anyone who says they wouldn't derive pleasure from slapping Freddie is a liar. He's a major trouser pole.

I would get so much more pleasure from batting lisa...or bea for that matter.

Freddie would probably enjoy being slapped :tongue:

[Niamh.]

Originally posted by nickc25
Originally posted by Savetherainforest
Its not nice for anyone to be bullied...But he was having a conversation with Roddy and then attacked David..David never bullied freddie in the weeks freedie was up cos david was not there...Freddie is getting aggressive and too big for his boots now he has queen bea and marcus, he has seen them attack david and now he is having a go..what he says to lisa is another issue. I cannot stand anyone being bullied freddie should know better cos he has had the same treatment and now is instigating it to another. David may not be the brightest spark by shoosing lisa but somehow he feels he can communicate with her without feeling stupid, and sorry but freddie and bea make him feel that way.....shame on them.

He did not attack david at all. So now giving someone your opinion without raising your voice is bullying? No chance.

David started off saying "pathetic" about 20,000 times with that silly look on his face and then said about Bea he has figured her out without then backing it up with facts too! As Marcus said, he can't say something like that without backing it up.

Bea asked David why he didn't like her and David said cos she said he was a thief, Bea said that she hadn't called him a thief, Bea who prides herself on being Honest Lied to him, yes she did say he was a thief and Freddie knew this cos he was one of the people she said it to therefore Freddie backed Bea knowing that she was in the wrong and knowing that Davids reason for disliking Bea was valid

[Vicky.]

Originally posted by Niamhxo




Bea asked David why he didn't like her and David said cos she said he was a thief, Bea said that she hadn't called him a thief, Bea who prides herself on being Honest Lied to him, yes she did say he was a thief and Freddie knew this cos he was one of the people she said it to therefore Freddie backed Bea knowing that she was in the wrong and knowing that Davids reason for disliking Bea was valid

Ah but thats the thing...she didnt say he was a thief. She implied this but she didnt say it.

Much the same as rabbit-gate...the word rabbit wasnt said, so this was the get out clause.

[nicpic]

I cant actually believe people are saying that freddie would not say anything without marcus or bea there! All the way through his journey he has always confronted his issues alone whether it be to karly, Kris, Lisa etc. He never did it in an aggresive way but he certainly tried to get his point across!
Last night he may have taken it too far but I think he had just had enough, mainly of Lisa. Unfortunately David got caught in the cross fire. I think the most telling part of all of this is that UNTIL last night he has remained dignified when under fire and so I for one can forgive him for letting off steam! They have been in there for a long time and I do not believe that any of us would handle every single situation perfectly. I am not going to condemn him for being human and over reacting on occassion!
Also I remember reading on here that some people were annoyed when he was trying to make an effort with lisa, saying "why is he talking to her". I dont think he can ever win. I suppose the best thing for him to do would be to just ignore lisa and keep a happy medium, but with someone who obviously dislikes him as much as lisa does I should imagine that is difficult to do all of the time. Sorry for rant...:blush2:

[BBmassive]

Originally posted by Niamhxo
Originally posted by nickc25
Originally posted by Savetherainforest
Its not nice for anyone to be bullied...But he was having a conversation with Roddy and then attacked David..David never bullied freddie in the weeks freedie was up cos david was not there...Freddie is getting aggressive and too big for his boots now he has queen bea and marcus, he has seen them attack david and now he is having a go..what he says to lisa is another issue. I cannot stand anyone being bullied freddie should know better cos he has had the same treatment and now is instigating it to another. David may not be the brightest spark by shoosing lisa but somehow he feels he can communicate with her without feeling stupid, and sorry but freddie and bea make him feel that way.....shame on them.

He did not attack david at all. So now giving someone your opinion without raising your voice is bullying? No chance.

David started off saying "pathetic" about 20,000 times with that silly look on his face and then said about Bea he has figured her out without then backing it up with facts too! As Marcus said, he can't say something like that without backing it up.

Bea asked David why he didn't like her and David said cos she said he was a thief, Bea said that she hadn't called him a thief, Bea who prides herself on being Honest Lied to him, yes she did say he was a thief and Freddie knew this cos he was one of the people she said it to therefore Freddie backed Bea knowing that she was in the wrong and knowing that Davids reason for disliking Bea was valid Yes she did ,glad someone else watches the show

[IsleOfWeather]

Halfwick

who he?:shrug:

[halfacrown]

If you slap anyone you might be accused of being a bully! There seems to be a little hysteria over an argument that brought things out in the open

[fikifikiwhaa]

Originally posted by tpau21
sorry he thinks he is too good and its a shamew i really liked freddie when the others were pikcing on him but he has turned into a nob

and sorry marcus fans that are all over these forums

marcus is a ***** vile fuker too!!

I agree what you've said about Freddie but not about Marcus.
Marcus is pure entertainment whereas freddie is just annoying now.

[Niamh.]

Originally posted by VickyJ
Originally posted by Niamhxo




Bea asked David why he didn't like her and David said cos she said he was a thief, Bea said that she hadn't called him a thief, Bea who prides herself on being Honest Lied to him, yes she did say he was a thief and Freddie knew this cos he was one of the people she said it to therefore Freddie backed Bea knowing that she was in the wrong and knowing that Davids reason for disliking Bea was valid

Ah but thats the thing...she didnt say he was a thief. She implied this but she didnt say it.

Much the same as rabbit-gate...the word rabbit wasnt said, so this was the get out clause.

LOL, She did say she thinks he stole some food, same difference! And this is NOT like rabbit-gate!!! She is absolutely denying that she either said or implied that he was a thief to him when Freddie knew she had yet still had Beas back when he knew David had a point! and a good reason for not liking Bea!

[danu_schafer]

I don't understand how you think Freddie bullied David?! What exactly did he say to David to bully him apart from accusing him he had a game plan? Cause in my eyes if a fully grown man cannot fight off the accusation of a game plan then that in itself is pathetic.

[jet]

Originally posted by NettoSuperstar!
So Halfwits a nob for exposing the vile bullies and telling them exactly what he thinks of them? He's a friggin hero mate

I keep hearing about these vile bullies yet no -one can cite any actual evidence of what they refer to as continuous, vile bullying. I wonder why? :laugh:

[Vicky.]

Originally posted by Niamhxo
Originally posted by VickyJ
Originally posted by Niamhxo




Bea asked David why he didn't like her and David said cos she said he was a thief, Bea said that she hadn't called him a thief, Bea who prides herself on being Honest Lied to him, yes she did say he was a thief and Freddie knew this cos he was one of the people she said it to therefore Freddie backed Bea knowing that she was in the wrong and knowing that Davids reason for disliking Bea was valid

Ah but thats the thing...she didnt say he was a thief. She implied this but she didnt say it.

Much the same as rabbit-gate...the word rabbit wasnt said, so this was the get out clause.

LOL, She did say she thinks he stole some food, same difference! And this is NOT like rabbit-gate!!! She is absolutely denying that she either said or implied that he was a thief to him when Freddie knew she had yet still had Beas back when he knew David had a point! and a good reason for not liking Bea!


How is that different to rabbitgate? They all denied saying anything when they clearly had. Same thing. Only charlie admitted to using the words 'social butterfly' the rest denied they even spoke about it...guess charlie was talking to himself in that conversation then :rolleyes:

[Vicky.]

Originally posted by danu_schafer
I don't understand how you think Freddie bullied David?! What exactly did he say to David to bully him apart from accusing him he had a game plan? Cause in my eyes if a fully grown man cannot fight off the accusation of a game plan then that in itself is pathetic. :thumbs:

[Savetherainforest]

Originally posted by BBmassive
Originally posted by Niamhxo
Originally posted by nickc25
Originally posted by Savetherainforest
Its not nice for anyone to be bullied...But he was having a conversation with Roddy and then attacked David..David never bullied freddie in the weeks freedie was up cos david was not there...Freddie is getting aggressive and too big for his boots now he has queen bea and marcus, he has seen them attack david and now he is having a go..what he says to lisa is another issue. I cannot stand anyone being bullied freddie should know better cos he has had the same treatment and now is instigating it to another. David may not be the brightest spark by shoosing lisa but somehow he feels he can communicate with her without feeling stupid, and sorry but freddie and bea make him feel that way.....shame on them.

He did not attack david at all. So now giving someone your opinion without raising your voice is bullying? No chance.

David started off saying "pathetic" about 20,000 times with that silly look on his face and then said about Bea he has figured her out without then backing it up with facts too! As Marcus said, he can't say something like that without backing it up.

Bea asked David why he didn't like her and David said cos she said he was a thief, Bea said that she hadn't called him a thief, Bea who prides herself on being Honest Lied to him, yes she did say he was a thief and Freddie knew this cos he was one of the people she said it to therefore Freddie backed Bea knowing that she was in the wrong and knowing that Davids reason for disliking Bea was valid Yes she did ,glad someone else watches the show

Freddie would defend bea to the hilt..but she would not do the same for him, bea is only with freddie for the ride and his usefulness, yes they communicate on the same level but she lies to freddie stating she does not fancy him and then they get all loved up under the covers last night..bea is trying everything to stay in the game and she will use freddie and marcus..sadly freddie is too blinded to see this and now he is getting too big for his boots and turning into a silly boy.

[The_Long_Run]

Originally posted by VickyJ
Originally posted by Niamhxo




Bea asked David why he didn't like her and David said cos she said he was a thief, Bea said that she hadn't called him a thief, Bea who prides herself on being Honest Lied to him, yes she did say he was a thief and Freddie knew this cos he was one of the people she said it to therefore Freddie backed Bea knowing that she was in the wrong and knowing that Davids reason for disliking Bea was valid

Ah but thats the thing...she didnt say he was a thief. She implied this but she didnt say it.

Much the same as rabbit-gate...the word rabbit wasnt said, so this was the get out clause.

"He is taking other peple's food" OK she may not have said 'thief'. But get real!

[google]

Freddie is getting too big for his boots

[jet]

Originally posted by albie
Freddy was NOT standing up for himself. He was attacking people for reasons that have NOTHING to do with him. It was just a vile childish Lord of The Flies attack. But it takes a keen mind to filter the evidence of this. I don't put it past most folk to not get it.

Exactly. :thumbs:

[Vicky.]

Originally posted by The_Long_Run
Originally posted by VickyJ
Originally posted by Niamhxo




Bea asked David why he didn't like her and David said cos she said he was a thief, Bea said that she hadn't called him a thief, Bea who prides herself on being Honest Lied to him, yes she did say he was a thief and Freddie knew this cos he was one of the people she said it to therefore Freddie backed Bea knowing that she was in the wrong and knowing that Davids reason for disliking Bea was valid

Ah but thats the thing...she didnt say he was a thief. She implied this but she didnt say it.

Much the same as rabbit-gate...the word rabbit wasnt said, so this was the get out clause.

"He is taking other peple's food" OK she may not have said 'thief'. But get real!

I know, thats what Im saying...it is her get out clause by saying she didnt call him a thief...it is technically true, as she did not say the word thief. Though she did say it.

[The_Long_Run]

Originally posted by fikifikiwhaa
Originally posted by tpau21
sorry he thinks he is too good and its a shamew i really liked freddie when the others were pikcing on him but he has turned into a nob

and sorry marcus fans that are all over these forums

marcus is a ***** vile fuker too!!

I agree what you've said about Freddie but not about Marcus.
Marcus is pure entertainment whereas freddie is just annoying now.

Pure and marcus in the same sentence. WOW What irony!

[danu_schafer]

Originally posted by jet
Originally posted by albie
Freddy was NOT standing up for himself. He was attacking people for reasons that have NOTHING to do with him. It was just a vile childish Lord of The Flies attack. But it takes a keen mind to filter the evidence of this. I don't put it past most folk to not get it.

Exactly. :thumbs:

How did he attack them? What did he say to attack them? They're adults for crying out loud! If adults cannot defend themself from an accusation then they clearly need to grow up! If the accusation is false then he clearly has nothing to be worried about, if it is true well then he deserves the 'severe questioning' from his fellow housemates.

[BBmassive]

Originally posted by danu_schafer
I don't understand how you think Freddie bullied David?! What exactly did he say to David to bully him apart from accusing him he had a game plan? Cause in my eyes if a fully grown man cannot fight off the accusation of a game plan then that in itself is pathetic. It was the laughing in his face that was out of order IMO,and the cockyness that he was staying

[BBmassive]

Originally posted by jet
Originally posted by albie
Freddy was NOT standing up for himself. He was attacking people for reasons that have NOTHING to do with him. It was just a vile childish Lord of The Flies attack. But it takes a keen mind to filter the evidence of this. I don't put it past most folk to not get it.

Exactly. :thumbs: Seconded :thumbs:

[danu_schafer]

Originally posted by BBmassive
Originally posted by danu_schafer
I don't understand how you think Freddie bullied David?! What exactly did he say to David to bully him apart from accusing him he had a game plan? Cause in my eyes if a fully grown man cannot fight off the accusation of a game plan then that in itself is pathetic. It was the laughing in his face that was out of order IMO,and the cockyness that he was staying

But laughing in someones face is not bullying and it is not attacking anyone! That is my point.

[RealityTV]

Originally posted by nicpic
I cant actually believe people are saying that freddie would not say anything without marcus or bea there! All the way through his journey he has always confronted his issues alone whether it be to karly, Kris, Lisa etc. He never did it in an aggresive way but he certainly tried to get his point across!

When he had an issue he would try and talk to them in a decent manner. I remember one time in particular when they was outside and Karly was shouting shut up I don't care. He tried to get his point across in a gentle way.

However, now he knows he is popular on the outside and has a few housemates on his side, he spoke to both, Lisa and David disgustingly.
Lisa never 'deserved' it. Sure, she did it to him but two wrongs don't make a right.

As for Marcus, don't even get me started on him :mad:

One of Team Smug out tomorrow! :wink:

[Alphabetica]

Last night when he was saying he was not getting evicted on Friday, he knows he's staying and I was like :laugh3: that's practically sealing his fate. Famous last words.

[BBmassive]

Originally posted by danu_schafer
Originally posted by BBmassive
Originally posted by danu_schafer
I don't understand how you think Freddie bullied David?! What exactly did he say to David to bully him apart from accusing him he had a game plan? Cause in my eyes if a fully grown man cannot fight off the accusation of a game plan then that in itself is pathetic. It was the laughing in his face that was out of order IMO,and the cockyness that he was staying

But laughing in someones face is not bullying and it is not attacking anyone! That is my point. It was provoking an attack that would have seen someone removed ,all wrong

[BBmassive]

Originally posted by RealityTV
Originally posted by nicpic
I cant actually believe people are saying that freddie would not say anything without marcus or bea there! All the way through his journey he has always confronted his issues alone whether it be to karly, Kris, Lisa etc. He never did it in an aggresive way but he certainly tried to get his point across!

When he had an issue he would try and talk to them in a decent manner. I remember one time in particular when they was outside and Karly was shouting shut up I don't care. He tried to get his point across in a gentle way.

However, now he knows he is popular on the outside and has a few housemates on his side, he spoke to both, Lisa and David disgustingly.
Lisa never 'deserved' it. Sure, she did it to him but two wrongs don't make a right.

As for Marcus, don't even get me started on him :mad:

One of Team Smug out tomorrow! :wink: :thumbs:

[danu_schafer]

Originally posted by BBmassive
Originally posted by danu_schafer
Originally posted by BBmassive
Originally posted by danu_schafer
I don't understand how you think Freddie bullied David?! What exactly did he say to David to bully him apart from accusing him he had a game plan? Cause in my eyes if a fully grown man cannot fight off the accusation of a game plan then that in itself is pathetic. It was the laughing in his face that was out of order IMO,and the cockyness that he was staying

But laughing in someones face is not bullying and it is not attacking anyone! That is my point. It was provoking an attack that would have seen someone removed ,all wrong

'Provoking an attack' isn't what people are accusing him of. They are saying he DID attack them and he WAS bullying them. I've still not seen anybody reply as to what it was he said that was either attacking them or bullying. All I saw was an accusation towards David and him reacting in an aggresive manner by shouting.

[jet]

Originally posted by danu_schafer
Originally posted by BBmassive
Originally posted by danu_schafer
Originally posted by BBmassive
Originally posted by danu_schafer
I don't understand how you think Freddie bullied David?! What exactly did he say to David to bully him apart from accusing him he had a game plan? Cause in my eyes if a fully grown man cannot fight off the accusation of a game plan then that in itself is pathetic. It was the laughing in his face that was out of order IMO,and the cockyness that he was staying

But laughing in someones face is not bullying and it is not attacking anyone! That is my point. It was provoking an attack that would have seen someone removed ,all wrong

'Provoking an attack' isn't what people are accusing him of. They are saying he DID attack them and he WAS bullying them. I've still not seen anybody reply as to what it was he said that was either attacking them or bullying. All I saw was an accusation towards David and him reacting in an aggresive manner by shouting.

You really need to watch it again.

[28thapril]

Originally posted by NettoSuperstar!
So Halfwits a nob for exposing the vile bullies and telling them exactly what he thinks of them? He's a friggin hero mate

Totally takes a bigger person to voice the truth instead of whispering in corner's, i said the truth will out and i'm glad he said it at last:kiss:

[Niamh.]

Originally posted by VickyJ
Originally posted by Niamhxo
Originally posted by VickyJ
Originally posted by Niamhxo




Bea asked David why he didn't like her and David said cos she said he was a thief, Bea said that she hadn't called him a thief, Bea who prides herself on being Honest Lied to him, yes she did say he was a thief and Freddie knew this cos he was one of the people she said it to therefore Freddie backed Bea knowing that she was in the wrong and knowing that Davids reason for disliking Bea was valid

Ah but thats the thing...she didnt say he was a thief. She implied this but she didnt say it.

Much the same as rabbit-gate...the word rabbit wasnt said, so this was the get out clause.

LOL, She did say she thinks he stole some food, same difference! And this is NOT like rabbit-gate!!! She is absolutely denying that she either said or implied that he was a thief to him when Freddie knew she had yet still had Beas back when he knew David had a point! and a good reason for not liking Bea!


How is that different to rabbitgate? They all denied saying anything when they clearly had. Same thing. Only charlie admitted to using the words 'social butterfly' the rest denied they even spoke about it...guess charlie was talking to himself in that conversation then :rolleyes:


No, it was never proven whether any of them ever said anything about her being a "rabbit". Noirin even asked Davina in her interview and she said she didn't know. Where as the "thief" issue, everyone knows Bea called/implied that David was a thief numerous times to plenty of peopl!!!

[nicpic]

I dont disagree that he could and should have handled lisa and david differently, but I will not suddenly think that that incident identifies him as a person, as in the past he has handled these situations well. I suppose how he handles himself from now onwards is key.

I do however forgive him for not controlling his emotions very well after abuse from lisa. I found it quite interesting watching the videos that another member posted on another thread, showing lisas behaviour towards freddie. Really bad!! Makes freddies outburst look ok, or justified. No two wrongs dont make a right but thats really easy to say when it is not you who is being bullied. He was full of anger. I think the difference is that freddie will probably look back on his experience and regret his mistakes, lisa, im not sure...
Oh and if he feels good about being popular.. good on him.. he has earned it! Isnt that the point of the show as we all vote to save our favourites or evict the nasties? Is he such a bad person for having the intelligence to understand he may be pretty popular as he has survived so many times? Cocky? Maybe a little, but I dont mind. Not where lisas concerned anyway! She was the one who was bringing up his popularity! He meerly threw it back in her face. Many would do the same, she would test the patience of a saint :love:

[AhmedFan2004]

Lisa was right along, the public should have listened to her about Halfwit, right from the start. Why else would a whole house, including Marcus/Siavash, dislike one person? He's so arrogant and deluded!

[Vicky.]

Originally posted by Niamhxo

No, it was never proven whether any of them ever said anything about her being a "rabbit". Noirin even asked Davina in her interview and she said she didn't know. Where as the "thief" issue, everyone knows Bea called/implied that David was a thief numerous times to plenty of peopl!!!

I think you are missing what I was saying totally. Im not saying she didnt say he stole food.

Beas get out clause is that she never actually said 'you are a thief' to david. Which is what he said.

Im not denying she did imply this, by saying other words but she did not say the sentence that he said, therefore...technically she is right that she did not sat that.

[danu_schafer]

Originally posted by jet
Originally posted by danu_schafer
Originally posted by BBmassive
Originally posted by danu_schafer
Originally posted by BBmassive
Originally posted by danu_schafer
I don't understand how you think Freddie bullied David?! What exactly did he say to David to bully him apart from accusing him he had a game plan? Cause in my eyes if a fully grown man cannot fight off the accusation of a game plan then that in itself is pathetic. It was the laughing in his face that was out of order IMO,and the cockyness that he was staying

But laughing in someones face is not bullying and it is not attacking anyone! That is my point. It was provoking an attack that would have seen someone removed ,all wrong

'Provoking an attack' isn't what people are accusing him of. They are saying he DID attack them and he WAS bullying them. I've still not seen anybody reply as to what it was he said that was either attacking them or bullying. All I saw was an accusation towards David and him reacting in an aggresive manner by shouting.

You really need to watch it again.

Or just for some people to actually back their 'opinions' up with a little bit of evidence instead of turning the argument to me needing to watch the show. I watched, I explained what I saw, but I still don't see others explaining their twisted view on what happened or backing up their view with some actual quotes!

Siavash to win :cheer:

[Niamh.]

Originally posted by nicpic
I dont disagree that he could and should have handled lisa and david differently, but I will not suddenly think that that incident identifies him as a person, as in the past he has handled these situations well. I suppose how he handles himself from now onwards is key.

I do however forgive him for not controlling his emotions very well after abuse from lisa. I found it quite interesting watching the videos that another member posted on another thread, showing lisas behaviour towards freddie. Really bad!! Makes freddies outburst look ok, or justified. No two wrongs dont make a right but thats really easy to say when it is not you who is being bullied. He was full of anger. I think the difference is that freddie will probably look back on his experience and regret his mistakes, lisa, im not sure...
Oh and if he feels good about being popular.. good on him.. he has earned it! Isnt that the point of the show as we all vote to save our favourites or evict the nasties? Is he such a bad person for having the intelligence to understand he may be pretty popular as he has survived so many times? Cocky? Maybe a little, but I dont mind. Not where lisas concerned anyway! She was the one who was bringing up his popularity! He meerly threw it back in her face. Many would do the same, she would test the patience of a saint :love:

Good argument :thumbs: eventhough I'm on the otherside and you have a good point about Lisa but my issue is of the way he was towards David, Accusing him of having a gameplan just because he's friends with Lisa? thats not fair, just because Freddie and her don't get on doesn't mean that anyone who's friends with her has some sort of agenda, I mean realistically speaking if he did have a gameplan he would have avoided Lisa like the plague when he came in as he knew she was hated amongst the public, Freddie should start looking a bit closer to home for who has a gameplan. Secondly, his backing of Bea eventhough he knew that Davids reason for disliking Bea was 100% valid and she was lying!!

[Vicky.]

Originally posted by danu_schafer
Originally posted by jet
Originally posted by danu_schafer
Originally posted by BBmassive
Originally posted by danu_schafer
Originally posted by BBmassive
Originally posted by danu_schafer
I don't understand how you think Freddie bullied David?! What exactly did he say to David to bully him apart from accusing him he had a game plan? Cause in my eyes if a fully grown man cannot fight off the accusation of a game plan then that in itself is pathetic. It was the laughing in his face that was out of order IMO,and the cockyness that he was staying

But laughing in someones face is not bullying and it is not attacking anyone! That is my point. It was provoking an attack that would have seen someone removed ,all wrong

'Provoking an attack' isn't what people are accusing him of. They are saying he DID attack them and he WAS bullying them. I've still not seen anybody reply as to what it was he said that was either attacking them or bullying. All I saw was an accusation towards David and him reacting in an aggresive manner by shouting.

You really need to watch it again.

Or just for some people to actually back their 'opinions' up with a little bit of evidence instead of turning the argument to me needing to watch the show. I watched, I explained what I saw, but I still don't see others explaining their twisted view on what happened or backing up their view with some actual quotes!

Siavash to win :cheer:
Its only because they have no point :rolleyes:

Always happens.

[Niamh.]

Originally posted by VickyJ
Originally posted by Niamhxo

No, it was never proven whether any of them ever said anything about her being a "rabbit". Noirin even asked Davina in her interview and she said she didn't know. Where as the "thief" issue, everyone knows Bea called/implied that David was a thief numerous times to plenty of peopl!!!

I think you are missing what I was saying totally. Im not saying she didnt say he stole food.

Beas get out clause is that she never actually said 'you are a thief' to david. Which is what he said.

Im not denying she did imply this, by saying other words but she did not say the sentence that he said, therefore...technically she is right that she did not sat that.

Ok, fair enough, misunderstood you a bit there :thumbs:

[jet]

Originally posted by AhmedFan2004
Lisa was right along, the public should have listened to her about Halfwit, right from the start. Why else would a whole house, including Marcus/Siavash, dislike one person? He's so arrogant and deluded!

Spot on! MOST of the HM's were nominating him EVERY week, until they realized he was popular with the public (Lisa and Sophie stayed true to themselves.) If he is so lovely, why were they all nominating him? Answer that one.

[danu_schafer]

Originally posted by nicpic
I dont disagree that he could and should have handled lisa and david differently, but I will not suddenly think that that incident identifies him as a person, as in the past he has handled these situations well. I suppose how he handles himself from now onwards is key.

I do however forgive him for not controlling his emotions very well after abuse from lisa. I found it quite interesting watching the videos that another member posted on another thread, showing lisas behaviour towards freddie. Really bad!! Makes freddies outburst look ok, or justified. No two wrongs dont make a right but thats really easy to say when it is not you who is being bullied. He was full of anger. I think the difference is that freddie will probably look back on his experience and regret his mistakes, lisa, im not sure...
Oh and if he feels good about being popular.. good on him.. he has earned it! Isnt that the point of the show as we all vote to save our favourites or evict the nasties? Is he such a bad person for having the intelligence to understand he may be pretty popular as he has survived so many times? Cocky? Maybe a little, but I dont mind. Not where lisas concerned anyway! She was the one who was bringing up his popularity! He meerly threw it back in her face. Many would do the same, she would test the patience of a saint :love:

I totally agree!

[HarryRag]

Originally posted by tpau21
sorry he thinks he is too good and its a shamew i really liked freddie when the others were pikcing on him but he has turned into a nob

and sorry marcus fans that are all over these forums

marcus is a ***** vile fuker too!!

lol whos vile and ***** pr'ck now? :laugh:

[danu_schafer]

Originally posted by AhmedFan2004
Lisa was right along, the public should have listened to her about Halfwit, right from the start. Why else would a whole house, including Marcus/Siavash, dislike one person? He's so arrogant and deluded!

He may be arrogant but he isn't deluded. The public will keep him in, he is still one of the top three....there is no delusion in that. Look at the polls and the bookies.

[chris1232]

Thread title, So are you OP :)

Freddie to win,

[charliegimbert]

Originally posted by albie
Anyone who says they wouldn't derive pleasure from slapping Freddie is a liar. He's a major trouser pole.

no, but i would love to bitch slap you :pat:

[danu_schafer]

Originally posted by jet
Originally posted by AhmedFan2004
Lisa was right along, the public should have listened to her about Halfwit, right from the start. Why else would a whole house, including Marcus/Siavash, dislike one person? He's so arrogant and deluded!

Spot on! MOST of the HM's were nominating him EVERY week, until they realized he was popular with the public (Lisa and Sophie stayed true to themselves.) If he is so lovely, why were they all nominating him? Answer that one.

They nominate because it is part of the game. They didn't know the public would love Freddie and saw him as weak in the house so they wanted to get rid of him. If you look at most of their complaints it is actually because he is more intellectual then them and they couldn't understand him because he used 'big words'

[jet]

Originally posted by danu_schafer
Originally posted by jet
Originally posted by danu_schafer
Originally posted by BBmassive
Originally posted by danu_schafer
Originally posted by BBmassive
Originally posted by danu_schafer
I don't understand how you think Freddie bullied David?! What exactly did he say to David to bully him apart from accusing him he had a game plan? Cause in my eyes if a fully grown man cannot fight off the accusation of a game plan then that in itself is pathetic. It was the laughing in his face that was out of order IMO,and the cockyness that he was staying

But laughing in someones face is not bullying and it is not attacking anyone! That is my point. It was provoking an attack that would have seen someone removed ,all wrong

'Provoking an attack' isn't what people are accusing him of. They are saying he DID attack them and he WAS bullying them. I've still not seen anybody reply as to what it was he said that was either attacking them or bullying. All I saw was an accusation towards David and him reacting in an aggresive manner by shouting.

You really need to watch it again.

Or just for some people to actually back their 'opinions' up with a little bit of evidence instead of turning the argument to me needing to watch the show. I watched, I explained what I saw, but I still don't see others explaining their twisted view on what happened or backing up their view with some actual quotes!

Siavash to win :cheer:

But you really DO need to watch it again. You obviously missed Halfwit provoking Lisa by shouting out she has a game plan. You missed him mocking and taunting and laughing like a maniac in people's faces. You missed him attacking David when David had done nothing on him.
The evidence is in the clip. That's why I am saying 'watch it again'. :bigsmile:

[jet]

Originally posted by danu_schafer
Originally posted by jet
Originally posted by AhmedFan2004
Lisa was right along, the public should have listened to her about Halfwit, right from the start. Why else would a whole house, including Marcus/Siavash, dislike one person? He's so arrogant and deluded!

Spot on! MOST of the HM's were nominating him EVERY week, until they realized he was popular with the public (Lisa and Sophie stayed true to themselves.) If he is so lovely, why were they all nominating him? Answer that one.

They nominate because it is part of the game. They didn't know the public would love Freddie and saw him as weak in the house so they wanted to get rid of him. If you look at most of their complaints it is actually because he is more intellectual then them and they couldn't understand him because he used 'big words'

Oh right. That'll be it. You Halfwit fans are a scream. :laugh2:

[The_Long_Run]

Originally posted by danu_schafer
Originally posted by jet
Originally posted by danu_schafer
Originally posted by BBmassive
Originally posted by danu_schafer
Originally posted by BBmassive
Originally posted by danu_schafer
I don't understand how you think Freddie bullied David?! What exactly did he say to David to bully him apart from accusing him he had a game plan? Cause in my eyes if a fully grown man cannot fight off the accusation of a game plan then that in itself is pathetic. It was the laughing in his face that was out of order IMO,and the cockyness that he was staying

But laughing in someones face is not bullying and it is not attacking anyone! That is my point. It was provoking an attack that would have seen someone removed ,all wrong

'Provoking an attack' isn't what people are accusing him of. They are saying he DID attack them and he WAS bullying them. I've still not seen anybody reply as to what it was he said that was either attacking them or bullying. All I saw was an accusation towards David and him reacting in an aggresive manner by shouting.

You really need to watch it again.

Or just for some people to actually back their 'opinions' up with a little bit of evidence instead of turning the argument to me needing to watch the show. I watched, I explained what I saw, but I still don't see others explaining their twisted view on what happened or backing up their view with some actual quotes!

Siavash to win :cheer:

As Nietzche said "There are no facts only perspectives"

If you think you saw what you thought you saw, no amount of words wll convince you otherwise. Clearly the person trying to convince you saw something entirely different. Seeing only one episode or event means you will see it differently from someone who has seen the lead up to it. Equally, when BB strings snippets together, they manipulate perspectives. The housemates will have a better chance of understanding what went on an will react over future events on the basis of their current understanding.

Just sit back and enjoy. However, I have to admit, that on the basis of current evidence, I find Freddie deeply unpleasant and I would not choose to spend ANY time with him, so you fans (if there are any left and not just people pretending for the craic) are welcome to him.

[HarryRag]

Originally posted by jet

Oh right. That'll be it. You Halfwit fans are a scream. :laugh2:

about what? he's gonna win anyway :cheer2:

[nicpic]

Sorry Niamhxo, im new to this malarky and i dont know how to put your quote on my post :blush2:

I do think that maybe he has misjudged David as having a gameplan but I should imagine it would make a person very paranoid being in there, especially when he is hooked up with lisa who he is convinced has had a gameplan all along! Also I do think that david has adopted some of lisas attitudes and he would be better off without her. They are always whispering about someone and if I remember rightly one night they were whispering in the bedroom and freddie was in there, lisa was shushing david and pointing to freddie. Davids response was "oh im not bothered about him" The point im trying to make is that freddie may have heard the content of their conversation or maybe bits of it. Freddie is suspicious of david now because of lisa, rightly or wrongly.
Withv regards to bea, he has just fallen for her and blindly supports her. Something that I have done for my friends on many occasion. We do support our friends no matter what, but hopefully we have a quiet word with them afterwards!!! I dont think we can condemn him for being all gooey eyed can we? Stupid, but not nasty..

[danu_schafer]

Originally posted by jet
Originally posted by danu_schafer
Originally posted by jet
Originally posted by danu_schafer
Originally posted by BBmassive
Originally posted by danu_schafer
Originally posted by BBmassive
Originally posted by danu_schafer
I don't understand how you think Freddie bullied David?! What exactly did he say to David to bully him apart from accusing him he had a game plan? Cause in my eyes if a fully grown man cannot fight off the accusation of a game plan then that in itself is pathetic. It was the laughing in his face that was out of order IMO,and the cockyness that he was staying

But laughing in someones face is not bullying and it is not attacking anyone! That is my point. It was provoking an attack that would have seen someone removed ,all wrong

'Provoking an attack' isn't what people are accusing him of. They are saying he DID attack them and he WAS bullying them. I've still not seen anybody reply as to what it was he said that was either attacking them or bullying. All I saw was an accusation towards David and him reacting in an aggresive manner by shouting.

You really need to watch it again.

Or just for some people to actually back their 'opinions' up with a little bit of evidence instead of turning the argument to me needing to watch the show. I watched, I explained what I saw, but I still don't see others explaining their twisted view on what happened or backing up their view with some actual quotes!

Siavash to win :cheer:

But you really DO need to watch it again. You obviously missed Halfwit provoking Lisa by shouting out she has a game plan. You missed him mocking and taunting and laughing like a maniac in people's faces. You missed him attacking David when David had done nothing on him.
The evidence is in the clip. That's why I am saying 'watch it again'. :bigsmile:

I didn't see him provoking Lisa, I saw him being honest to her face instead of sneaking behind her back like the others do. To mock some one means to parody them which means to copy them....I did not see Halfwit copying David....so that is either you making crap up or you don't know what the word means so suggest you get a dictionary! I saw him laughing like a maniac...not in peoples faces...he was actually sat down in a chair leaning back, so maybe you didn't quite see him clearly...I would suggest you watch that bit again! I did not see the attack on David and have asked several times what did he do to attack him......lunge across the room? If verbally what did he say which was an attack? All I heard was an accusation of a gameplan and if a fully grown man cannot stand up to a simple series of questions then surely David is to blame for his own incompentence?

[danu_schafer]

Typo on last post.......*incompetence

[The_Long_Run]

Originally posted by nicpic
Sorry Niamhxo, im new to this malarky and i dont know how to put your quote on my post :blush2:

I do think that maybe he has misjudged David as having a gameplan but I should imagine it would make a person very paranoid being in there, especially when he is hooked up with lisa who he is convinced has had a gameplan all along! Also I do think that david has adopted some of lisas attitudes and he would be better off without her. They are always whispering about someone and if I remember rightly one night they were whispering in the bedroom and freddie was in there, lisa was shushing david and pointing to freddie. Davids response was "oh im not bothered about him" The point im trying to make is that freddie may have heard the content of their conversation or maybe bits of it. Freddie is suspicious of david now because of lisa, rightly or wrongly.
Withv regards to bea, he has just fallen for her and blindly supports her. Something that I have done for my friends on many occasion. We do support our friends no matter what, but hopefully we have a quiet word with them afterwards!!! I dont think we can condemn him for being all gooey eyed can we? Stupid, but not nasty..

Freddies supporters say he is only disliked by the other housemates who have nominated him because he is intelligent, then you say he is stupid not nasty? Hmmmm :conf:

He might not be nasty, but he DOES do nasty things!

[danu_schafer]

Originally posted by The_Long_Run

As Nietzche said "There are no facts only perspectives"

If you think you saw what you thought you saw, no amount of words wll convince you otherwise. Clearly the person trying to convince you saw something entirely different. Seeing only one episode or event means you will see it differently from someone who has seen the lead up to it. Equally, when BB strings snippets together, they manipulate perspectives. The housemates will have a better chance of understanding what went on an will react over future events on the basis of their current understanding.

Just sit back and enjoy. However, I have to admit, that on the basis of current evidence, I find Freddie deeply unpleasant and I would not choose to spend ANY time with him, so you fans (if there are any left and not just people pretending for the craic) are welcome to him.

Honestly???? I'm not a Freddie fan....I don't care for him to win, I just don't see what the Freddie haters see. I want to take your quote and plant it onto the Freddie haters because they are adament they saw Freddie attack someone and Bully them yet they cannot back this up with any quotes or explainations from the show, but are still positively strong in their perspective.

And we all know how Frederick Nietzche can be twisted....didn't that cause some one to commit genocide about 65 years ago?

[Niamh.]

Originally posted by nicpic
Sorry Niamhxo, im new to this malarky and i dont know how to put your quote on my post :blush2:

I do think that maybe he has misjudged David as having a gameplan but I should imagine it would make a person very paranoid being in there, especially when he is hooked up with lisa who he is convinced has had a gameplan all along! Also I do think that david has adopted some of lisas attitudes and he would be better off without her. They are always whispering about someone and if I remember rightly one night they were whispering in the bedroom and freddie was in there, lisa was shushing david and pointing to freddie. Davids response was "oh im not bothered about him" The point im trying to make is that freddie may have heard the content of their conversation or maybe bits of it. Freddie is suspicious of david now because of lisa, rightly or wrongly.
Withv regards to bea, he has just fallen for her and blindly supports her. Something that I have done for my friends on many occasion. We do support our friends no matter what, but hopefully we have a quiet word with them afterwards!!! I dont think we can condemn him for being all gooey eyed can we? Stupid, but not nasty..

I don't think Freddie is nasty at all, I do think he is acting like an idiot at the moment (probably down to Beas presence but he's a big boy so has to accept responsibilty!!) Yes, I would always support my friends but I wouldn't back them up if they asked a person why are you being off with me? The person gives an answer which I know to be true and valid and they then blatantly deny ever saying it! Personnally, I think Freddie should not have said anything to David and pulled Bea aside after and said, Listen you asked him why he was off with you, he told you and you denied doing what he said eventhough you did.
I wouldn't mind but she's asked him several times knowing what he was going to say and knowing he was right to be p*ssed off with her but she keeps on goading him and Freddie also knows this, so to answer your question, if one of friends continually started arguments with someone when they are blatently lying, I would not back them up!

[Niamh.]

Originally posted by nicpic
Sorry Niamhxo, im new to this malarky and i dont know how to put your quote on my post :blush2:

I do think that maybe he has misjudged David as having a gameplan but I should imagine it would make a person very paranoid being in there, especially when he is hooked up with lisa who he is convinced has had a gameplan all along! Also I do think that david has adopted some of lisas attitudes and he would be better off without her. They are always whispering about someone and if I remember rightly one night they were whispering in the bedroom and freddie was in there, lisa was shushing david and pointing to freddie. Davids response was "oh im not bothered about him" The point im trying to make is that freddie may have heard the content of their conversation or maybe bits of it. Freddie is suspicious of david now because of lisa, rightly or wrongly.
Withv regards to bea, he has just fallen for her and blindly supports her. Something that I have done for my friends on many occasion. We do support our friends no matter what, but hopefully we have a quiet word with them afterwards!!! I dont think we can condemn him for being all gooey eyed can we? Stupid, but not nasty..

And by the way click Quote on the right hand side off whoevers post you want to Quote!

[jean51]

freddie is a vile man he wud not of started that if bea and marcus was not there. sorry but freddie did pick on david knowing full well that bea was lying. them three are the bullies,can not stand them.

[luminoussun]

op
So because he stands up to the people who bullied him for 5 weeks he is bad??
Lisa should get NO sympathy.
As soon as her "hide in the background" gameplan failed and her gangs back up to strength she shows her nasty side again.

[Shasown]

Originally posted by danu_schafer
Typo on last post.......*incompetence

I didnt realise David had a problem controlling his waterworks, poor lad I am starting to feel sorry for him even if he doesnt have the brains of a brown loaf

[BBmassive]

Originally posted by jean51
freddie is a vile man he would not of started that if bea and marcus was not there. sorry but freddie did pick on david knowing full well that bea was lying. them three are the bullies,can not stand them. :thumbs:

[Kazanne]

Who is halfwick?

[Niamh.]

Originally posted by luminoussun
op
So because he stands up to the people who bullied him for 5 weeks he is bad??
Lisa should get NO sympathy.
As soon as her "hide in the background" gameplan failed and her gangs back up to strength she shows her nasty side again.

I have no sympathy whatsoever for Lisa, she's getting everything she deserves after her treatment of Freddie! My issue is the way he was with David who didn't deserve it especially when Bea was in the wrong and Freddie knew that.