Marcus could never swap cigs for anything

[luminoussun]

How could he swap cigs for anything??
If he did he would have to admit he had cigs??
No way would he ever be able to tell a smoker he had cigs??
So he was just waiting until they run out...my dad does the same thing..he was trying to be nice but it backfired

[Claymores]

Was looking to swap them for a bit of duvet action with Bea is the obvious answer given that he stated he was specifically giving them to her.

[setanta]

Originally posted by Claymores
Was looking to swap them for a bit of duvet action with Bea is the obvious answer given that he stated he was specifically giving them to her.

Bingo. Fairly obvious what he was after.

[BBmassive]

He did not steal them for any other reason than spite,and control

[InOne]

Either way the whole thing was blown way out of proportion which caused stupid dogface to fcuk up nominations

[luminoussun]

i expect a unbias view from you 3............NOT hehe
You just hate him and can't see any good in what he does

[BBmassive]

Originally posted by InOne
Either way the whole thing was blown way out of proportion which caused stupid dogface to fcuk up nominations He got off VERY light ,he sat back and watched the fireworks he had lit the blue paper on ,nasty sly little man

[setanta]

Originally posted by InOne
Either way the whole thing was blown way out of proportion which caused stupid dogface to fcuk up nominations

I'm not sure about that.... it was Bea and Freddie, his friends that really had a go at him.

Plus, imagine what would have happened if say Charlie had hidden a pack for Lisa? Fecking outright war.

[BBmassive]

Originally posted by luminoussun
i expect a unbias view from you 3............NOT hehe
You just hate him and can't see any good in what he does Maybe because there is no good to see ?

[BBmassive]

Originally posted by setanta
Originally posted by InOne
Either way the whole thing was blown way out of proportion which caused stupid dogface to fcuk up nominations

I'm not sure about that.... it was Bea and Freddie, his friends that really had a go at him.

Plus, imagine what would have happened if say Charlie had hidden a pack for Lisa? Fecking outright war. EXACTLY with "big man" Mucus in the front row of attackers !

[=-Incognito-=]

Ciggies are currency in the house with smokers. Lisa has been using this for weeks until Marcus put his foot down over the basic budget abuse. I'm not surprised he's stashed a pack while times are good to help when times are bad. Some might even call that sensible.

[HBB1508]

Originally posted by InOne
Either way the whole thing was blown way out of proportion which caused stupid dogface to fcuk up nominations
:thumbs: Plus I don't know how Marcus kept his temper with her when she just couldn't understand why he had taken them - is she really that dim?????

[InOne]

Still, talking about it until half 3 in the morning. They must be getting pretty bored.

[InOne]

Originally posted by HBB1508
Originally posted by InOne
Either way the whole thing was blown way out of proportion which caused stupid dogface to fcuk up nominations
:thumbs: Plus I don't know how Marcus kept his temper with her when she just couldn't understand why he had taken them - is she really that dim?????


I think she is just so far up herself that she is almost detached from reality.

[BBmassive]

Originally posted by =-Incognito-=
Ciggies are currency in the house with smokers. Lisa has been using this for weeks until Marcus put his foot down over the basic budget abuse. I'm not surprised he's stashed a pack while times are good to help when times are bad. Some might even call that sensible. No i call it STEALING

[ElProximo]

No, he was just doing it for the same reason Marcus does anything and everything - to make Marcus look cool, tough, smart, better than everyone else, manipulate or one-up someone.

The most likely explanation is that he was intending to hang on to them until everyone ran out (if they did) and then make a great big deal about how he is such a mental genius with such amazing powers that "I knew this would happen.. I absolutely KNEW it!".
Then make a very big deal about how he could have swapped them but he sacrificed that and will give them cigarettes.
Hopefully avoiding nomination for his great amazing act.

The guy is such a fukktard.

*And yes, he would have given them to Bea in some weird idea of winning some favour, wrestles or massages from her.
Ugh.
Idiot.

[Chels]

eh :puzzled:

[BBmassive]

Originally posted by ElProximo
No, he was just doing it for the same reason Marcus does anything and everything - to make Marcus look cool, tough, smart, better than everyone else, manipulate or one-up someone.

The most likely explanation is that he was intending to hang on to them until everyone ran out (if they did) and then make a great big deal about how he is such a mental genius with such amazing powers that "I knew this would happen.. I absolutely KNEW it!".
Then make a very big deal about how he could have swapped them but he sacrificed that and will give them cigarettes.
Hopefully avoiding nomination for his great amazing act.

The guy is such a fukktard.

*And yes, he would have given them to Bea in some weird idea of winning some favour, wrestles or massages from her.
Ugh.
Idiot. 100% Right :thumbs: he is a liar and a prick

[luminoussun]

bbmasive you follow the biggest bitch in bb history and have the cheek to talk about marcus like this?? rub the sh1t out your eyes or go back and watch week 1 to week 5 again as your memory is messed up

[The_Long_Run]

Originally posted by ElProximo
No, he was just doing it for the same reason Marcus does anything and everything - to make Marcus look cool, tough, smart, better than everyone else, manipulate or one-up someone.

The most likely explanation is that he was intending to hang on to them until everyone ran out (if they did) and then make a great big deal about how he is such a mental genius with such amazing powers that "I knew this would happen.. I absolutely KNEW it!".
Then make a very big deal about how he could have swapped them but he sacrificed that and will give them cigarettes.
Hopefully avoiding nomination for his great amazing act.

The guy is such a fukktard.

*And yes, he would have given them to Bea in some weird idea of winning some favour, wrestles or massages from her.
Ugh.
Idiot.

This may well have been his original intention but then he positioned them strategically where they could not possibly be missed when he SENT Sophie to get a can of lager out of his drawer.

He knew, he just KNEW what would happen when she 'found' them, as he intended. He then sat back and watched the fireworks, spraying petrol on the fire when it suited him.

Clearly I am not stating the above as a fact, but as a very reasonable hypotheseis based on how he has conducted his manipulative, controlling self thus far.

[=-Incognito-=]

Originally posted by BBmassive
Originally posted by =-Incognito-=
Ciggies are currency in the house with smokers. Lisa has been using this for weeks until Marcus put his foot down over the basic budget abuse. I'm not surprised he's stashed a pack while times are good to help when times are bad. Some might even call that sensible. No i call it STEALING

It's only stealing if he had smoked them all in a corner on his own, just like what happens alot with the alcohol in the house. Marcus just stuck them in the bank on behalf of others for a rainy day. It's not a right and wrong thing but one of those grey area deeds with mixed intentions.

[luminoussun]

He don't smoke *******!!!
If he gave them to bea it would not gain him anything as she is on his side?
Do you think he was keeping them to get lisa/david on his side?
They was freddies cigs and he don't mind so stop being so childish.

[WOMBAI]

Originally posted by ElProximo
No, he was just doing it for the same reason Marcus does anything and everything - to make Marcus look cool, tough, smart, better than everyone else, manipulate or one-up someone.

The most likely explanation is that he was intending to hang on to them until everyone ran out (if they did) and then make a great big deal about how he is such a mental genius with such amazing powers that "I knew this would happen.. I absolutely KNEW it!".
Then make a very big deal about how he could have swapped them but he sacrificed that and will give them cigarettes.
Hopefully avoiding nomination for his great amazing act.

The guy is such a fukktard.

*And yes, he would have given them to Bea in some weird idea of winning some favour, wrestles or massages from her.
Ugh.
Idiot.

Spot on!!!:thumbs:

[BBmassive]

Originally posted by luminoussun
bbmasive you follow the biggest bitch in bb history and have the cheek to talk about marcus like this?? rub the sh1t out your eyes or go back and watch week 1 to week 5 again as your memory is messed up PLEASE do not talk to me like that ,IMO Lisa is nowhere near and never has been ,as bad as Mucus

[BBmassive]

Originally posted by =-Incognito-=
Originally posted by BBmassive
Originally posted by =-Incognito-=
Ciggies are currency in the house with smokers. Lisa has been using this for weeks until Marcus put his foot down over the basic budget abuse. I'm not surprised he's stashed a pack while times are good to help when times are bad. Some might even call that sensible. No i call it STEALING

It's only stealing if he had smoked them all in a corner on his own, just like what happens alot with the alcohol in the house. Marcus just stuck them in the bank on behalf of others for a rainy day. It's not a right and wrong thing but one of those grey area deeds with mixed intentions. So a shoplifter ,male aged 24 ,no children ,goes into Tesco pinches a load of Pampers ,sells them to his mates girlfriend ..is he or his he not a thief?....utter rot

[Shasown]

Originally posted by luminoussun
He don't smoke *******!!!
If he gave them to bea it would not gain him anything as she is on his side?
Do you think he was keeping them to get lisa/david on his side?
They was freddies cigs and he don't mind so stop being so childish.

Gee no he doesnt smoke, so no it wouldnt gain him anything would it, but lets see, cider noirin lap, cider sophie washing, should I go on? Can you see the pattern emerging, incidentally the 4th word of your post is fairly insulting, if you want to see a ****** try a mirror pal.

[BigBrotherfan4ever]

Originally posted by ElProximo
No, he was just doing it for the same reason Marcus does anything and everything - to make Marcus look cool, tough, smart, better than everyone else, manipulate or one-up someone.

The most likely explanation is that he was intending to hang on to them until everyone ran out (if they did) and then make a great big deal about how he is such a mental genius with such amazing powers that "I knew this would happen.. I absolutely KNEW it!".
Then make a very big deal about how he could have swapped them but he sacrificed that and will give them cigarettes.
Hopefully avoiding nomination for his great amazing act.

The guy is such a fukktard.

*And yes, he would have given them to Bea in some weird idea of winning some favour, wrestles or massages from her.
Ugh.
Idiot. Well said totally agree with you:thumbs:

[luminoussun]

Originally posted by Shasown
Originally posted by luminoussun
He don't smoke *******!!!
If he gave them to bea it would not gain him anything as she is on his side?
Do you think he was keeping them to get lisa/david on his side?
They was freddies cigs and he don't mind so stop being so childish.

Gee no he doesnt smoke, so no it wouldnt gain him anything would it, but lets see, cider noirin lap, cider sophie washing, should I go on? Can you see the pattern emerging, incidentally the 4th word of your post is fairly insulting, if you want to see a ****** try a mirror pal.
Well as you had'nt posted on this thread before i said it how can you be offended?
Are you trying to do a charlie and look good in front of the others being all pc?

[Cristina]

Originally posted by BBmassive
Originally posted by =-Incognito-=
Ciggies are currency in the house with smokers. Lisa has been using this for weeks until Marcus put his foot down over the basic budget abuse. I'm not surprised he's stashed a pack while times are good to help when times are bad. Some might even call that sensible. No i call it STEALING


from who exactly? they were not given to the smokers in specifically....

[luminoussun]

THEY WAS FREDDIES CIGS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
freddie don't mind so what's the big deal??

[Shasown]

Doesnt matter whose they were he had no right to take them and hide them it shows just what a control freak he is. And he should have had more sense

If he found a packet of sweets outside a primary school would he just leave them for the kids or would he wait and offer them to a little girl?

My guess is the second.

[luminoussun]

Originally posted by Shasown
Doesnt matter whose they were he had no right to take them and hide them it shows just what a control freak he is. And he should have had more sense

If he found a packet of sweets outside a primary school would he just leave them for the kids or would he wait and offer them to a little girl?

My guess is the second.
So now marcus is a peado??
I think that's a little harsh on him

[BB22]

There has been a lot of noise on this forum about this. Here are two facts:

Marcus does not smoke
Marcus could never hope to trade cigarettes

And here is some speculation:

Firstly, Marcus was planning to gift them to Bea exactly as he said he was. This is by far the most likely option as I think it is fairly plain that he had already signposted this by mentioning that he was going to give something to her, as he pointed out in the argument and nobody, as far as I am aware, disputed.

Secondly, it is possible that Marcus was planning to reveal them after everyone had run out of cigarettes so that everyone would be "grateful". This would fit at least one aspect of Marcus' personality.

Either way, in Marcus' world he undoubtedly thought he was doing something "positive". Although I think whether he is right about that is highly dubious.

Beyond that we do not really know very much. Either way the reaction in the House and on this forum has been predictably hysterical.

On a final note, two more observations. First, it is unclear to me whether this is in any way as bad as unilaterally requisitioning evicted Housemates' food stocks, as we have seen done on at least one occasion. Second, it certainly is not comparable, morally, to taking more than one's fair share of food supplies for personal consumption (although it is still unclear to me whether this has actually occurred and who is responsible).

[Shasown]

Your words, not mine. Its a control thing isnt it? But saying that, it wouldnt surprise me.

[WOMBAI]

Originally posted by BBmassive
Originally posted by luminoussun
bbmasive you follow the biggest bitch in bb history and have the cheek to talk about marcus like this?? rub the sh1t out your eyes or go back and watch week 1 to week 5 again as your memory is messed up PLEASE do not talk to me like that ,IMO Lisa is nowhere near and never has been ,as bad as Mucus

Agreed:thumbs:

From a female perspective - I for one, would not like to meet Marcus on a dark night in the middle of nowhere! Give me Lisa anyday!!

[ElProximo]

Technically Marcus could have done that although it would have been more appropriate to say he was taking them instead of the sneaky way of asking if everyone else had some and then NOT saying he was taking them,
but,
I think Charlie really explained it comparing it to Hira and drink. Hira could have done the same thing. Taken x-many cans of cider as 'her share',
but,
Hira did not do that. She doesn't drink so obviously she allows the drinks to go to the drinkers to then split up accordingly.

The real problem is that Marcus the intellectually dishonest wimp has to swerve and sleaze and slime and pout and make little 'angry boy faces' full of insulting little excuses, make it sound as if he was wronged, be annoyingly coy and dishonest,
and,
make up phony stories that are really just insulting to the intelligence of everyone else.

[luminoussun]

Originally posted by COMMONSENSE
Originally posted by BBmassive
Originally posted by luminoussun
bbmasive you follow the biggest bitch in bb history and have the cheek to talk about marcus like this?? rub the sh1t out your eyes or go back and watch week 1 to week 5 again as your memory is messed up PLEASE do not talk to me like that ,IMO Lisa is nowhere near and never has been ,as bad as Mucus

Agreed:thumbs:

From a female perspective - I for one, would not like to meet Marcus on a dark night in the middle of nowhere! Give me Lisa anyday!!
well that's bloody obvious...if your going to be attacked by someone better it be a old woman then a big hairy man who does karate??

[BB22]

I don't think Marcus "made up phony stories". Whatever the merits of his actions I think he told the plain truth when the cigarettes were discovered.

[cassieparis]

Marcus stated clearly on last nites h/l show
" I don't nick things just for nuthing" Slang. to trick, cheat, or defraud:

"They were gonna be a suprise for you (Bea) and now you've spoilt it"

I really don't think his actions can be defended as clear and transparent or even remotely upright but it really funny to watch people try :laugh2:

Why not admit you like him and will brush aside his errors and defects but to defend them is laughable :laugh:

[WOMBAI]

Originally posted by luminoussun
Originally posted by COMMONSENSE
Originally posted by BBmassive
Originally posted by luminoussun
bbmasive you follow the biggest bitch in bb history and have the cheek to talk about marcus like this?? rub the sh1t out your eyes or go back and watch week 1 to week 5 again as your memory is messed up PLEASE do not talk to me like that ,IMO Lisa is nowhere near and never has been ,as bad as Mucus

Agreed:thumbs:

From a female perspective - I for one, would not like to meet Marcus on a dark night in the middle of nowhere! Give me Lisa anyday!!
well that's bloody obvious...if your going to be attacked by someone better it be a old woman then a big hairy man who does karate??

I was referring to 'character' as opposed to comparing the two as a potential threat! Although - Lisa's appearance - could be perceived as threatening by some!! She can look a little intimidating!!

I think that is why a lot of the blokes don't like her - not because of her bitchng - she is not the worst - but because they don't find her attractive! Biased nonsense - particulary as Marcus fans have had the nerve to accuse his 'haters' of that!!!!

[Shasown]

Originally posted by luminoussun

well that's bloody obvious...if your going to be attacked by someone better it be a old woman then a big hairy man who does karate??

Hiss , snap hiss , like an animal cornered and knows its caught, eh rick?