I think the bookies have got this one wrong

[scottyd73]

I think for the 1st time this series the bookies have got the next eviction wrong. They have Marcus as the dead cert to go but i don't think that will be the case.
Freddie who i have liked in the past is too much a drama queen now and adds little to the show.
Marcus on the other hand says it like it is doesn't care who he annoys and rattles a lot of cages even when he is trying not he can't help himself.
That performance from Bea last night was quite something but Marcus stayed calm and just got his point across I think if he goes the series will be over but if Freddie left nothing much would change and i'd keep watching.
Just for the record i'm not really a huge fan of either Freddie or Marcus this has been 1st year i've not had a favorite housemate.

[The-Resistance!]

Bookies very rarely get it wrong, espescially to this degree. They pay so many researchers etc thats how they make there money! :)

[Daffodil]

Marcus will be a joy in the studio. I can't wait to hear him have free reign of the mic :)

[*mazedsalv**]

I actually dont know what will happen anymore.

[dbfs]

Yes, if he does go at least we will have a good interview - I would love them to evict him and then tomorrow for him to walk back through the diary room doors the expression on their faces would be brilliant:dance:

[Claymores]

Bookies have not opened incorrectly on any one vs one eviction since BB7.

Moreover, every credible polls shows Marcus going.

It's a done deal - it's down to percentage guesses now - I'm going 55% Marcus

[Patricia4]

I think Marcus will go.

[*mazedsalv**]

Originally posted by Claymores
Bookies have not opened incorrectly on any one vs one eviction since BB7.

Moreover, every credible polls shows Marcus going.

It's a done deal - it's down to percentage guesses now - I'm going 55% Marcus

Im sure that Steph's eviction last years odds opened with Mario being fave to be evicted all through the week.

[Claymores]

Originally posted by *mazedsalv**
Originally posted by Claymores
Bookies have not opened incorrectly on any one vs one eviction since BB7.

Moreover, every credible polls shows Marcus going.

It's a done deal - it's down to percentage guesses now - I'm going 55% Marcus

Im sure that Steph's eviction last years odds opened with Mario being fave to be evicted all through the week.

Wrong - Steph opened 1/3 fave - it was just that mug punters daftly pushed the odds in the other direction. (as high as 7/1 and serious gamblers drank champagne on the mugs' money for weeks after)

If there's one thing I do know a lot off without even having to check, it's opening eviction odds.

Mug punters have actually pushed the odds the wrong way on several occasions after the bookies opened the market correctly - Jade (1st Eviction in BBCH) and both Steph and Lisa in BB9 come immediately to mind.

[BB-Daz]

Think about all the 1000s of punters who backed money on freddie when he was down as the favourite to win. You think they are gonna vote him out now??? Of course not so the odds are obviously going to be in his favour.

[LipticBoven]

Bookies odds are quite largly effected by the number of bets they think they are gunna get for each outcome.

At the end of the day bookies are out to make a profit, even if the bookies felt it was 50/50, if they believed or started getting a lot more bets backing freddie then marcus then they would increase freddies odds, therefore reducing the payout if freddie does stay.

The odds bookies choose are designed to try and make them the most profit not to try and predict the futhure.

[Claymores]

Originally posted by BB-Daz
Think about all the 1000s of punters who backed money on freddie when he was down as the favourite to win. You think they are gonna vote him out now??? Of course not so the odds are obviously going to be in his favour.

I referred to the opening odds before punters have any impact through market forces. Every single bookmaker opened Marcus clear fave..........in realitry there have been only slight movements either way and we're now just about back to the opening postion.

[88Paul99]

A lot of wrong stuff here about bookies hiring researchers, punters' vote making a difference.

The gap (never large) between them is closing, if tonight is a bad highlight's show for Freddie he could be out, there is no universal law preventing that. And there is plenty of precedent.

[Claymores]

Originally posted by 88Paul99
A lot of wrong stuff here about bookies hiring researchers, punters' vote making a difference.

The gap (never large) between them is closing, if tonight is a bad highlight's show for Freddie he could be out, there is no universal law preventing that. And there is plenty of precedent.

Cite one example in a 'normal eviction' in any form of BB sine BB7. The truth is the bookmakers have made better use of intelligence sources in recent years hence why they've never opened incorrectly on any type of 'normal eviction' since Scouser Mikey in BB7

[Chels]

Bookies will be right again.
Most people want Freddie to stay in as all the other HMs think he's gonna go, and they all hate him.
So voters will want to p*ss them all off:bigsmile:

[BB-Daz]

Ive done ok out of eviction bets this year apart from the Hira eviction, i had £40 on Lisa to go :shrug: Ive got £20 on Marcus leaving tonight.

[Claymores]

Originally posted by BB-Daz
Ive done ok out of eviction bets this year apart from the Hira eviction, i had £40 on Lisa to go :shrug: Ive got £20 on Marcus leaving tonight.

You'll be fine - trust me :thumbs:

[88Paul99]

Originally posted by Claymores
Cite one example in a 'normal eviction' in any form of BB sine BB7. The truth is the bookmakers have made better use of intelligence sources in recent years hence why they've never opened incorrectly on any type of 'normal eviction' since Scouser Mikey in BB7

Odds have changed drastically in many evictions from their opening price. Whether it is enough to change who is favourite depends on the gap. The gap now is easily changable.

"Intellegence sources"? (I suspect that you stand to lose a lot of money if Freddie goes). The bookmakers have just one person each managing the BB market, and he does not do it full time (he has other duties). He balances his books, sets his prices depending on the money coming in and what the competition are offering, and he has a look at the Betfair prices before taking any big bets. For the opening odds his "intellegence sources" will be the polls and forums, of which this site is major.

[bogface]

I can't understand how lisa is still in the house and marcus is going its unfair.

[Claymores]

Originally posted by 88Paul99
Originally posted by Claymores
Cite one example in a 'normal eviction' in any form of BB sine BB7. The truth is the bookmakers have made better use of intelligence sources in recent years hence why they've never opened incorrectly on any type of 'normal eviction' since Scouser Mikey in BB7

Odds have changed drastically in many evictions from their opening price. Whether it is enough to change who is favourite depends on the gap. The gap now is easily changable.

"Intellegence sources"? (I suspect that you stand to lose a lot of money if Freddie goes). The bookmakers have just one person each managing the BB market, and he does not do it full time (he has other duties). He balances his books, sets his prices depending on the money coming in and what the competition are offering, and he has a look at the Betfair prices before taking any big bets. For the opening odds his "intellegence sources" will be the polls and forums, of which this site is major.

I REPEAT FROM ABOVE:

The evidence I cited all relates to how they open markets.

Bookies have never opened incorrectly on any normal eviction since Scouser Mikey.

Mug punters have actually pushed the odds the wrong way on several occasions after the bookies opened the market correctly - Jade (1st Eviction in BBCH) and both Steph and Lisa in BB9 come immediately to mind.

On this occasion the movements since opening have been insignicifant and we're virtually back to the opening position.

I currently have a significant amount on Marcus going and will place up to another very large sum today depending on what's on offer.

[ElProximo]

I think what skews predictions on forums like this are what we see and don't see posted is not a good representation of likely voters.
- We have a handful of American BB fans who are really doing a sort of 'forum raid' type of joke/prank where they signed up several different screennames and are pretending to be huge Marcus fans. In their mind (which is hard to explain) they think this is taking the plss and having a laugh at Brits.
and,
- a handful of Marcus real-life friends and online friends who are also gangbanging the topics creating a disproportionate interest.
- a number of Brits just taking the plss on Marcus with fake fandom.
Okay,
but what we do not have is that representation of the massive and powerful voting demographic which is those teenage chavvish girls and middle-aged women.
They do NOT like Marcus who they quickly identified as the 'male chauvinist pig' to be punished with their misguided 'girl power'/ punish ex-bf vengeance.

The 'good news' for Marcus is that Freddy has been an annoying little shlt this last week or two.
but,
Marcus will still get bounced out with a good 65% or more to evict and then loudly booed and hissed.
And laughed at.

*Presuming Freddy doesn't try and kill a puppy tomorrow only to see it rescued by Marcus.

[BB22]

Originally posted by ElProximo
I think what skews predictions on forums like this are what we see and don't see posted is not a good representation of likely voters.

That is absolutely correct and I have made the same observation a few times during the course of this series.

We have a handful of American BB fans who are really doing a sort of 'forum raid' type of joke/prank where they signed up several different screennames and are pretending to be huge Marcus fans. In their mind (which is hard to explain) they think this is taking the plss and having a laugh at Brits.
and,
- a handful of Marcus real-life friends and online friends who are also gangbanging the topics creating a disproportionate interest.
- a number of Brits just taking the plss on Marcus with fake fandom.

That is a quite incorrect and faintly ridiculous characterisation of the situation. I have seen you peddle this particular line on a couple of occasions. You occasionally write fairly articulately on a topic but then discredit yourself with comments such as those.

what we do not have is that representation of the massive and powerful voting demographic which is those teenage chavvish girls and middle-aged women.


There is a lot of truth in that comment, although I would probably not have phrased it in such a manner myself.

[Entervoice]

Originally posted by scottyd73
I think for the 1st time this series the bookies have got the next eviction wrong. They have Marcus as the dead cert to go but i don't think that will be the case.
Freddie who i have liked in the past is too much a drama queen now and adds little to the show.
Marcus on the other hand says it like it is doesn't care who he annoys and rattles a lot of cages even when he is trying not he can't help himself.
That performance from Bea last night was quite something but Marcus stayed calm and just got his point across I think if he goes the series will be over but if Freddie left nothing much would change and i'd keep watching.
Just for the record i'm not really a huge fan of either Freddie or Marcus this has been 1st year i've not had a favorite housemate. Freddie might go :-(

[BBmassive]

I think you are right Scotty ,after this last few days I think Freddie will be more disliked than Mucus ,At the begining of this week i voted Mucus 3 times ,since the"look at me,look at me ,Im a poor pity case"attack the other night I have voted Freddie 12 times ,This could be the one the bookies get wrong ,there is usually one wrong in a series IMO this is it

[BBmassive]

Originally posted by bogface
I can't understand how lisa is still in the house and marcus is going its unfair. She more liked with the hm8s ,shes in the final

[BB22]

Originally posted by BBmassive
This could be the one the bookies get wrong ,there is usually one wrong in a series IMO this is it

I think Claymores has addressed this in several posts today and earlier in the series. But anyway, we shall see in a few hours. Personally I believe Marcus will be evicted.

[BBmassive]

Originally posted by BB22
Originally posted by BBmassive
This could be the one the bookies get wrong ,there is usually one wrong in a series IMO this is it

I think Claymores has addressed this in several posts today and earlier in the series. But anyway, we shall see in a few hours. Personally I believe Marcus will be evicted. Claymore knows his stuff ,but i still think Freddie has a MASSIVE chance of going

[Slothy]

Freddie won't go. After last night, Bea has actually helped him. When she said "Why is he saving his drinks? To celebrate when he leaves friday?" That made me vote 10 more times for Marcus. Sad really as I don't want him to go either. But anyway, tonight Marcus will go. I can only hope there's some twist, maybe like when Michelle & whats-her-face left but got put in another house.

[Marc]

*sigh* I think Marcus will go tonight :bawling:

[Jintyrocks]

Middle-aged women???? I resemble that remark and I'm not anti-Marcus. The only 2 I have voted with glee out were Sree (innit argh) and Noirin. I even had a soft spot for Bea until she tipped herself over the edge. And her sanctimonious tone when Roddy met "The Queen"... need I say more?

Yet I have warmed to Lisa slightly - watching her cheer Sivash and Marcus on during their task... okay, so she gets more baccy and her reasons are probably selfish but she actively cheered them on.

[BB22]

Originally posted by BBmassive
Originally posted by BB22
Originally posted by BBmassive
This could be the one the bookies get wrong ,there is usually one wrong in a series IMO this is it

I think Claymores has addressed this in several posts today and earlier in the series. But anyway, we shall see in a few hours. Personally I believe Marcus will be evicted. Claymore knows his stuff ,but i still think Freddie has a MASSIVE chance of going

Well, I hope you are right. But obviously for different reasons.

[Claymores]

Originally posted by BB22
Originally posted by BBmassive
This could be the one the bookies get wrong ,there is usually one wrong in a series IMO this is it

I think Claymores has addressed this in several posts today and earlier in the series. But anyway, we shall see in a few hours. Personally I believe Marcus will be evicted.

The gambling odds are a bit of a side show/red herring TBH....just another indicator rather than the be-all and end-all!

What I'd rely upon are the credible net polls (here and BB Online)which are showing Marcus with a very clear lead which is narrowing only marginally.

I actually had some money on Harfase going this week (wishful thinking!), but traded out of that bet when it became clear it wasn't happening.

[BBmassive]

Originally posted by Slothy
Freddie won't go. After last night, Bea has actually helped him. When she said "Why is he saving his drinks? To celebrate when he leaves friday?" That made me vote 10 more times for Marcus. Sad really as I don't want him to go either. But anyway, tonight Marcus will go. I can only hope there's some twist, maybe like when Michelle & whats-her-face left but got put in another house. IMO Freddies"Ive won bb10 "announcment has lost him it ,I voted 6 times after he said that ,and a few of my friends did too ,people do not like that sort of smugness ,I think and hope hes a gonner

[The_Long_Run]

Originally posted by BBmassive
I think you are right Scotty ,after this last few days I think Freddie will be more disliked than Mucus ,At the begining of this week i voted Mucus 3 times ,since the"look at me,look at me ,Im a poor pity case"attack the other night I have voted Freddie 12 times ,This could be the one the bookies get wrong ,there is usually one wrong in a series IMO this is it

If you know you are so fickle why on earth would you vote early. Is someone else paying the phone bill?!!!!!!

I never cease to be amazed at some of the posts on here, but to hear of such crass actions as this really takes the biscuit. 6 of your phone calls are just throwing money at Channel 4 for NOTHING!!!!!

[BBmassive]

Originally posted by The_Long_Run
Originally posted by BBmassive
I think you are right Scotty ,after this last few days I think Freddie will be more disliked than Mucus ,At the begining of this week i voted Mucus 3 times ,since the"look at me,look at me ,Im a poor pity case"attack the other night I have voted Freddie 12 times ,This could be the one the bookies get wrong ,there is usually one wrong in a series IMO this is it

If you know you are so fickle why on earth would you vote early. Is someone else paying the phone bill?!!!!!!

I never cease to be amazed at some of the posts on here, but to hear of such crass actions as this really takes the biscuit. 6 of your phone calls are just throwing money at Channel 4 for NOTHING!!!!! I pay my own phone bill ,but thanks for asking ,I voted for Mucus be cause I was THRILLED he was up and we had a chance to get him out ,as much as i couldnt bear to look,listen to Freddie ,THEN he threw in the pity me card :mad::mad::mad::mad:,NOTHING gets me so mad as that one does ,so I changed my vote to Freddie ,but yes I know I have give them some money ,but what the hell ,bb is nearly over ,and Ive spent no where near what I have done in other years

[Slothy]

Originally posted by BBmassive
Originally posted by Slothy
Freddie won't go. After last night, Bea has actually helped him. When she said "Why is he saving his drinks? To celebrate when he leaves friday?" That made me vote 10 more times for Marcus. Sad really as I don't want him to go either. But anyway, tonight Marcus will go. I can only hope there's some twist, maybe like when Michelle & whats-her-face left but got put in another house. IMO Freddies"Ive won bb10 "announcment has lost him it ,I voted 6 times after he said that ,and a few of my friends did too ,people do not like that sort of smugness ,I think and hope hes a gonner

I don't think he will win, my friend. However, smugness & confidence are different things. He has survived 5 evictions and a number of the ex housemates who came in told everyone he was the favorite. Now, this will effect how you act, I agree its stupid to show it like he has. I'd keep my smugness inside, lol. Anyway, I still think Freddie will stay tonight, mainly down to Bea - the public hate her more than freddie.

[Claymores]

Originally posted by BB22
Originally posted by BBmassive
Originally posted by BB22
Originally posted by BBmassive
This could be the one the bookies get wrong ,there is usually one wrong in a series IMO this is it

I think Claymores has addressed this in several posts today and earlier in the series. But anyway, we shall see in a few hours. Personally I believe Marcus will be evicted. Claymore knows his stuff ,but i still think Freddie has a MASSIVE chance of going

Well, I hope you are right. But obviously for different reasons.

There is no absolute certainty otherwise they'd stop calling it gambling!!!!!!!!!

But this one I'm seeing no evidence of a major turnaround anywhere. Having looked at yesterday's Official News and LF, I can't see anything in the last HL show will bring about any last-minute upset either.

[BB22]

Originally posted by Claymores
Originally posted by BB22
Originally posted by BBmassive
Originally posted by BB22
Originally posted by BBmassive
This could be the one the bookies get wrong ,there is usually one wrong in a series IMO this is it

I think Claymores has addressed this in several posts today and earlier in the series. But anyway, we shall see in a few hours. Personally I believe Marcus will be evicted. Claymore knows his stuff ,but i still think Freddie has a MASSIVE chance of going

Well, I hope you are right. But obviously for different reasons.

There is no absolute certainty otherwise they'd stop calling it gambling!!!!!!!!!

But this one I'm seeing no evidence of a major turnaround anywhere. Having looked at yesterday's Official News and LF, I can't see anything in the last HL show will bring about any last-minute upset either.

Indeed.

[The_Long_Run]

Originally posted by BBmassive
I pay my own phone bill ,but thanks for asking ,I voted for Mucus be cause I was THRILLED he was up and we had a chance to get him out ,as much as i couldnt bear to look,listen to Freddie ,THEN he threw in the pity me card :mad::mad::mad::mad:,NOTHING gets me so mad as that one does ,so I changed my vote to Freddie ,but yes I know I have give them some money ,but what the hell ,bb is nearly over ,and Ive spent no where near what I have done in other years

I absolve you, I was equally THRILLED and yes, a Freddie vote has elements to recommend it. However my take on it is that Freddie 'knows not what he does'. I see him repeatedly being played by Marcus.

I wish I could be 100% certain about what Marcus' aspirations are. He claims he wants to go, but I suspect that is hedging his bets so he can say "thank you loyal fans for giving me my wish" if he goes. If he stays it will be "the viewing public clearly enjoy me being here so much".

On balance, I see him as such a negative influence on housemates that punishment is only a secondary consideration, I would prefer him to GO so that some harmony may descend upon the house. As ever, I shall not contribute either way, just hope that people act as I would like them to.

[BBmassive]

Originally posted by Slothy
Originally posted by BBmassive
Originally posted by Slothy
Freddie won't go. After last night, Bea has actually helped him. When she said "Why is he saving his drinks? To celebrate when he leaves friday?" That made me vote 10 more times for Marcus. Sad really as I don't want him to go either. But anyway, tonight Marcus will go. I can only hope there's some twist, maybe like when Michelle & whats-her-face left but got put in another house. IMO Freddies"Ive won bb10 "announcment has lost him it ,I voted 6 times after he said that ,and a few of my friends did too ,people do not like that sort of smugness ,I think and hope hes a gonner

I don't think he will win, my friend. However, smugness & confidence are different things. He has survived 5 evictions and a number of the ex housemates who came in told everyone he was the favorite. Now, this will effect how you act, I agree its stupid to show it like he has. I'd keep my smugness inside, lol. Anyway, I still think Freddie will stay tonight, mainly down to Bea - the public hate her more than freddie. Im the "public"and I LOVE Bea

[BBmassive]

Originally posted by The_Long_Run
Originally posted by BBmassive
I pay my own phone bill ,but thanks for asking ,I voted for Mucus be cause I was THRILLED he was up and we had a chance to get him out ,as much as i couldnt bear to look,listen to Freddie ,THEN he threw in the pity me card :mad::mad::mad::mad:,NOTHING gets me so mad as that one does ,so I changed my vote to Freddie ,but yes I know I have give them some money ,but what the hell ,bb is nearly over ,and Ive spent no where near what I have done in other years

I absolve you, I was equally THRILLED and yes, a Freddie vote has elements to recommend it. However my take on it is that Freddie 'knows not what he does'. I see him repeatedly being played by Marcus.

I wish I could be 100% certain about what Marcus' aspirations are. He claims he wants to go, but I suspect that is hedging his bets so he can say "thank you loyal fans for giving me my wish" if he goes. If he stays it will be "the viewing public clearly enjoy me being here so much".

On balance, I see him as such a negative influence on housemates that punishment is only a secondary consideration, I would prefer him to GO so that some harmony may descend upon the house. As ever, I shall not contribute either way, just hope that people act as I would like them to. I agree Mucus the man/boy is covering his back ,it keeps up his tough man image (wimp)

[The_Long_Run]

Originally posted by BBmassive
Im the "public"and I LOVE Bea [/quote]

Not sure I would go as far as love but I, as a member of 'the public', certainly have some fellow feeling for her over the way I have seen her 'painted into a corner' by Marcus. Hell hath no fury like a wolverine scorned.

[BB22]

Originally posted by BBmassive
Originally posted by Slothy
Originally posted by BBmassive
Originally posted by Slothy
Freddie won't go. After last night, Bea has actually helped him. When she said "Why is he saving his drinks? To celebrate when he leaves friday?" That made me vote 10 more times for Marcus. Sad really as I don't want him to go either. But anyway, tonight Marcus will go. I can only hope there's some twist, maybe like when Michelle & whats-her-face left but got put in another house. IMO Freddies"Ive won bb10 "announcment has lost him it ,I voted 6 times after he said that ,and a few of my friends did too ,people do not like that sort of smugness ,I think and hope hes a gonner

I don't think he will win, my friend. However, smugness & confidence are different things. He has survived 5 evictions and a number of the ex housemates who came in told everyone he was the favorite. Now, this will effect how you act, I agree its stupid to show it like he has. I'd keep my smugness inside, lol. Anyway, I still think Freddie will stay tonight, mainly down to Bea - the public hate her more than freddie. Im the "public"and I LOVE Bea

I thought it was fairly obvious that when someone says "the public" and makes reference to an attitude then they are referring to their own perception of the vast majority, or at least majority, view.

In strict terms, your response is not contradicting the post you are replying to. And of course, you are not "the public". You are one member of the public. One whose views on Bea are not widely shared, I think we would all acknowledge.

[Adamw92]

I think the bookies are gonna be right again, they've never been wrong this series, so i'm guessing 59% for Marcus

[nanaimo]

Originally posted by BBmassive
Originally posted by BB22
Originally posted by BBmassive
This could be the one the bookies get wrong ,there is usually one wrong in a series IMO this is it

I think Claymores has addressed this in several posts today and earlier in the series. But anyway, we shall see in a few hours. Personally I believe Marcus will be evicted. Claymore knows his stuff ,but i still think Freddie has a MASSIVE chance of going

well ofc u will say that, you are a member of we hate Freddie"club and you show that and ramble on about it 24/7 so your comments are not fair and balanced :mad:

[Slothy]

Originally posted by BBmassive
Originally posted by Slothy
Originally posted by BBmassive
Originally posted by Slothy
Freddie won't go. After last night, Bea has actually helped him. When she said "Why is he saving his drinks? To celebrate when he leaves friday?" That made me vote 10 more times for Marcus. Sad really as I don't want him to go either. But anyway, tonight Marcus will go. I can only hope there's some twist, maybe like when Michelle & whats-her-face left but got put in another house. IMO Freddies"Ive won bb10 "announcment has lost him it ,I voted 6 times after he said that ,and a few of my friends did too ,people do not like that sort of smugness ,I think and hope hes a gonner

I don't think he will win, my friend. However, smugness & confidence are different things. He has survived 5 evictions and a number of the ex housemates who came in told everyone he was the favorite. Now, this will effect how you act, I agree its stupid to show it like he has. I'd keep my smugness inside, lol. Anyway, I still think Freddie will stay tonight, mainly down to Bea - the public hate her more than freddie. Im the "public"and I LOVE Bea

Of course, there will be some members of the public who like bea - there's a few people who loved hitler too, theres no accounting for taste.

[nanaimo]

Originally posted by BBmassive
Originally posted by BB22
Originally posted by BBmassive
This could be the one the bookies get wrong ,there is usually one wrong in a series IMO this is it

I think Claymores has addressed this in several posts today and earlier in the series. But anyway, we shall see in a few hours. Personally I believe Marcus will be evicted. Claymore knows his stuff ,but i still think Freddie has a MASSIVE chance of going

i am a member of a support club, you are memeber of hate club,so ****

[Ham]

Originally posted by BB-Daz
Think about all the 1000s of punters who backed money on freddie when he was down as the favourite to win. You think they are gonna vote him out now??? Of course not so the odds are obviously going to be in his favour.

You`ve got a point there

[BBmassive]

Originally posted by The_Long_Run
Originally posted by BBmassive
Im the "public"and I LOVE Bea

Not sure I would go as far as love but I, as a member of 'the public', certainly have some fellow feeling for her over the way I have seen her 'painted into a corner' by Marcus. Hell hath no fury like a wolverine scorned. [/quote]There is nothing big or clever about being aggresive to a woman ,its shows the coward in men

[Halfwit4Victory]

VOTE MARCUS OUT! PLEASE! EVERYONE WANTS TO SEE BEAS'S FACE!

[scottyd73]

I don't want to see either of them go they should just blow up the jail with Bea in it and forego evictions tonight as a celebration.

[Dolphin-and-Whale]

Unfortunately Marcus is gone, at odds of 1/7 they're not going to be wrong

[Marzy]

Freddies not going anywhere tonight!! Trust me on this.:wink:

[Jords]

Its going to be dead close.
Marcus to go because I like Freddie more and he says he wants to go! :bigsmile:

[BBmassive]

Originally posted by LethalDealer
Unfortunately Marcus is gone, at odds of 1/7 they're not going to be wrong Hes 1-3 now ,freddie 11-4 ,not a lot in it

[danda012]

Bookies in the past few years have got the winner wrong every year since Pete won. They can be wrong and could be in this case.

[BB22]

The odds have altered a little but there is still a significant gap. 1/3 is still a pretty heavy favourite in a two horse race.

EDIT: Looking at oddschecker, Marcus appears to be 1/4 or 2/9 with most bookies. He is even 1/5 with one. The odds are not close at all.

[BBmassive]

Originally posted by danda012
Bookies in the past few years have got the winner wrong every year since Pete won. They can be wrong and could be in this case. Look at bb8 ,the twins :mad:.were miles in front to win ....its not over till carole bb8 sings !

[whosaid]

i actually had gone off marcus till last night, at last someone put that bea in her place, although bb did try and edit the show to make marcus look bad i felt i think not that it worked lol
i think marcus should stay, freddy will be up every week till his gone if he stays and they will bully him so think it would be better if he went, where as marcus he is back on top form so good entertainment.

[danda012]

Originally posted by BBmassive
Originally posted by danda012
Bookies in the past few years have got the winner wrong every year since Pete won. They can be wrong and could be in this case. Look at bb8 ,the twins :mad:.were miles in front to win ....its not over till carole bb8 sings !

Yup and to this day i am still puzzled as to how Brian Belo won.

[BBmassive]

Originally posted by danda012
Originally posted by BBmassive
Originally posted by danda012
Bookies in the past few years have got the winner wrong every year since Pete won. They can be wrong and could be in this case. Look at bb8 ,the twins :mad:.were miles in front to win ....its not over till carole bb8 sings !

Yup and to this day i am still puzzled as to how Brian Belo won. To this day i can never understand how he even got in the house !! :mad: .THAT was a big turnround on the actual night

[zukhov]

Nothing can save Marcus. Too many people have been waiting for a long time to get him out.

[greysky]

two years ago the bookies got the winner wrong remember ? I think it's going to be closer than we think .... more people like freddie than marcus but more people also hate freddie more than marcus .