BBUK could take the BBUSA Format

[ILoveTRW]

This is not wishful thinking but i seriously think that ITV would be interested in BBUK using the BBUSA format
After all they did produce there own version of Survivor

[Jords]

Whats the USA format?

[Tom]

and if you were ITV, where would you schedule Big Brother bearing in mind ITV air other things at 9pm, and have the news at 10pm.

[ElProximo]

ABSOLUTELY NO NO NO.
Wrong.
DO NOT Even Say Such a Thing.
Ugh.
NOPE. NEVER.

[ILoveTRW]

Originally posted by Tom
and if you were ITV, where would you schedule Big Brother bearing in mind ITV air other things at 9pm, and have the news at 10pm.

thats my point BBUSA is only 3 nights a week so it could be easily fitted in.

[BBfan46]

I hate BB USA! Dud.

[Tom]

So as well as taking the actual format they take the editorial format too? BBUK under the exact USA format would flop over here

[ILoveTRW]

Originally posted by -BB~Jordan-
Whats the USA format?
basically
1 housemate wins head of house at the begining for the week, they put up 2 housemates for eviction, a power of veto competition is then held, the winner has the opertunity to use it and take one of the housemates of the block, then the housemates vote out the housemate they hate with no public vot at all

[scot]

never seen BBUSA...what's the format and how does it differ to UK?

[cell]

There is a reason why I am Canadian and spent months downloading and hunting down live streams of BBUK. I would rather BBUK die then be kept alive like BBUS.

[nickc25]

BB US is poop.

ITV will not touch it ever. They are cutting back themselves too. Plus they have better things with the 9pm slot too. Channel 4 have axed it for a reason, that reason will not change if ITV take over it.

[ILoveTRW]

Originally posted by Tom
So as well as taking the actual format they take the editorial format too? BBUK under the exact USA format would flop over here

i dont see why, ok survivor got low ratings but BB is an established name

[brisbanebroncos]

The US Version sucks. Too much strategy talk and this head of house crap or whatever.

[Lwize]

There's nothing good about the BB USA format.

Three HL shows per week, mostly scripted activities and scripted diary room sessions.

Although there is $500,000 in prize money, it is not technically a game show (it's categorized as a soap opera) allowing the producers to heavily manipulate the show while sidestepping FCC rules. The only thing approaching real is the live feeds, and even those get blocked when the producers don't want the public to see or hear certain things.

Sadly, ratings are UP, meaning BB USA will continue the charade indefinitely.

[MaratSafinForever]

Originally posted by scot
never seen BBUSA...what's the format and how does it differ to UK?

read above?:bored:

[ElProximo]

Originally posted by cell
There is a reason why I am Canadian and spent months downloading and hunting down live streams of BBUK. I would rather BBUK die then be kept alive like BBUS.

You said it brother!

Absolutely do NOT anyone ever entertain such things. Bad bad bad. Wrong. :cloud:

[Cybele]

Originally posted by Lwize
There's nothing good about the BB USA format.

Three HL shows per week, mostly scripted activities and scripted diary room sessions.

Although there is $500,000 in prize money, it is not technically a game show (it's categorized as a soap opera) allowing the producers to heavily manipulate the show while sidestepping FCC rules. The only thing approaching real is the live feeds, and even those get blocked when the producers don't want the public to see or hear certain things.

Sadly, ratings are UP, meaning BB USA will continue the charade indefinitely.

I'm not quite sure where you get your information, but it severely flawed. First of all, BB USA is NOT categorized as a soap opera. In the US, soap operas aren't even the same as they are here so clearly you have that wrong. Second of all, there is 24 hour live feed. Third, the show is no more scripted than the UK one.

Here are the differences between the two:

1. More prize money - With the exchange rate about 300,000 GBP. But US shows generally have higher prize amounts than UK shows.

2. It is more housemate driven. There is no public vote and no Big Brother who talks to them.

3. The food is done differently. There is a food task each week. If they fail the food task, they are only given slop, which is pretty disgusting. They don't get lentils and rice if they lose like on UK BB... just nasty slop all week.

4. The competitions keep going until there are 2 left. The final vote is only between 2 people and is done by those who have been evicted.

5. The format is as follows - At the beginning of each week, there is a competition to determine who is the head of household. The HoH decides on 2 people to put up for eviction. A couple of days later, there is a Power of Veto competition. The only ones who are allowed to compete are the HOH, 2 nominated people, and 2 wildcards chosen randomly. Whoever wins the PoV can (but doesn't have to) save one of the people who are nominated. If they do, then the HoH chooses someone else. At the end of the week, the housemates vote for who they want evicted.

Though I enjoy BB UK, I personally find BB US to be more interesting. There is more conflict and strategizing going on rather than people just sitting around bitching about who had an extra can of cider.

[Jayson]

Big Brother on a channel like ITV would never be as good.

They'd probably take away anything deemed "unacceptable" so that all we are left with is the HM's discussing the latest Harry Potter books.

In other words, it would be a flop.

[Kate!]

bbusa sounds a good format, i would watch it if they did it over here.

[Brad.]

Originally posted by ElProximo
ABSOLUTELY NO NO NO.
Wrong.
DO NOT Even Say Such a Thing.
Ugh.
NOPE. NEVER.

this.

[Tom]

Originally posted by ILoveMoney
Originally posted by Tom
So as well as taking the actual format they take the editorial format too? BBUK under the exact USA format would flop over here

i dont see why, ok survivor got low ratings but BB is an established name

But such an overhaul would make it only BB in name

[Cybele]

Originally posted by Tom
Originally posted by ILoveMoney
Originally posted by Tom
So as well as taking the actual format they take the editorial format too? BBUK under the exact USA format would flop over here

i dont see why, ok survivor got low ratings but BB is an established name

But such an overhaul would make it only BB in name

Not necessarily. After all, it is going to be on a different network, so it would already have some differences. And even on C4, each season is slightly different than the rest. Like the ability to talk about noms this season.

However, I think the one thing that might make it not work is the lack of a public vote.

[simplysic]

sadly enough BBUS has had the rating average of 6.94m this year so far and on tuesday got 7.98m

Something is working with that format fellas plus with their 4 cam 24/7 feeds and flashbacks

[Lwize]

Originally posted by Cybele
I'm not quite sure where you get your information, but it severely flawed. First of all, BB USA is NOT categorized as a soap opera. In the US, soap operas aren't even the same as they are here so clearly you have that wrong. Second of all, there is 24 hour live feed. Third, the show is no more scripted than the UK one.

The soap opera categorization was discussed ad nauseum early on. Check the archives at jam.canoe.ca's BB pages. It gives the producers the ability to manipulate the game without breaking FCC game show rules.

The 24/7 live feed exists, but it's not live 24/7. The feed goes to a shot of the fish tank whenever houseguests discuss production, diary room sessions, results of games, etc. Most competitions are blocked from the feeds as well.

It has also been discussed in the past (caught on live feed before being blocked) that producers have given HG's scripts for the diary room sessions, have coached them on what to say and how to react.

[So_Uncool]

Originally posted by cell
There is a reason why I am Canadian and spent months downloading and hunting down live streams of BBUK. I would rather BBUK die then be kept alive like BBUS.

Me to....BBUS is horrible! The best thing about BBUK is that it is NOTHING like the shite US one.

[Cybele]

Originally posted by Lwize
Originally posted by Cybele
I'm not quite sure where you get your information, but it severely flawed. First of all, BB USA is NOT categorized as a soap opera. In the US, soap operas aren't even the same as they are here so clearly you have that wrong. Second of all, there is 24 hour live feed. Third, the show is no more scripted than the UK one.

The soap opera categorization was discussed ad nauseum early on. Check the archives at jam.canoe.ca's BB pages. It gives the producers the ability to manipulate the game without breaking FCC game show rules.

The 24/7 live feed exists, but it's not live 24/7. The feed goes to a shot of the fish tank whenever houseguests discuss production, diary room sessions, results of games, etc. Most competitions are blocked from the feeds as well.

It has also been discussed in the past (caught on live feed before being blocked) that producers have given HG's scripts for the diary room sessions, have coached them on what to say and how to react.

You don't seem to have a clear understanding of US reality tv shows. First of all, it isn't referred to as a game show there. NONE of them are. Second of all, they aren't categorized as a soap opera either. They are not in the slightest similar to a US soap opera. And I won't take the word of some random unofficial website as proof of it either. That's like someone using a thread here as proof of something.

Second of all, ALL reality tv shows in the us have producers asking questions in the diary room/confessional in order to get the sound bytes. In BB, I don't think the producers speak directly to them so they are given a list of questions to speak about. That is NOT the same thing as being scripted. If there is a sheet of paper that asks "What do you think about Joe" and I give my answer, my answer is not scripted. It is no different than on BB UK when BB asks a housemate "What do you think about Joe."

Lastly, it seems perfectly obvious to me why the live feed would block out information that should only appear on the prime time show. The prime time show is the only show which counts as far as ratings go. And ratings determine a lot of monetary aspects such as advertising dollars. Why would they give all of the information away ahead of time? That makes no sense. They want people to watch it.

[BB_Fan_09]

Many of the BB USA housemates are not "regular" people.

Before BB, they appeared in low budget movies, made minor appearances as extras or as minor characters in TV shows, or are models.

[Cybele]

Originally posted by BB_Fan_09
Many of the BB USA housemates are not "regular" people.

Before BB, they appeared in low budget movies, made minor appearances as extras or as minor characters in TV shows, or are models.

You mean like Karly and Sophie and Charlie and Rodrigo? Actually, it is probably about the same percentage as UK big brother. And that is mostly because those types of people are more likely to apply hoping it would help their career. In fact, the people in UK big brother are more likely to be known. The people in US big brother are usually never heard from again.

Edited to add: And Noirin and Isaac!

Edited to add #2: And Angel, can't forget about our Russian pop star!

[Spike]

I love the US version but it would never work in the UK.
British people don't seem to want to see bad, greedy, manipulating, backstabbing characters which means not many people would take to the series