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pixee
29-08-2009, 09:16 PM
Right I just want people to help clarify some things for me.

1) He wants to win to help his mothers recovery? Can some one who has experience of coma's or medical knowledge explain what he can do. And buy a huge alarm clock doesn't count.

2) Won't her care be covered by the NHS?

I'm sure 100 000 grand for private care or something would be helpful i'm just wondering how helpful, because a person in a coma needs doesn't need "treatment" it's more about care and talking to them etc isn't it?

I'm not his biggest fan but i want to know more info not slate him

Marc
29-08-2009, 09:19 PM
Erm...

Maybe he wants the money for the rest of his family, make things easier for them.

pixee
29-08-2009, 09:20 PM
Erm...

Maybe he wants the money for the rest of his family, make things easier for them.

Fair point I pressume she worked etc so lost that income

GoldHeart
29-08-2009, 09:20 PM
Right I just want people to help clarify some things for me.

1) He wants to win to help his mothers recovery? Can some one who has experience of coma's or medical knowledge explain what he can do. And buy a huge alarm clock doesn't count.

2) Won't her care be covered by the NHS?

I'm sure 100 000 grand for private care or something would be helpful i'm just wondering how helpful, because a person in a coma needs doesn't need "treatment" it's more about care and talking to them etc isn't it?

I'm not his biggest fan but i want to know more info not slate him he wants the money for himself!!!!!!!!!! natrually he'll wanna give some to his mum and family but the whole sob story of helping her get better ERM MONEY WONT HELP IN that sense :rolleyes::bored:

pixee
29-08-2009, 09:23 PM
Right I just want people to help clarify some things for me.

1) He wants to win to help his mothers recovery? Can some one who has experience of coma's or medical knowledge explain what he can do. And buy a huge alarm clock doesn't count.

2) Won't her care be covered by the NHS?

I'm sure 100 000 grand for private care or something would be helpful i'm just wondering how helpful, because a person in a coma needs doesn't need "treatment" it's more about care and talking to them etc isn't it?

I'm not his biggest fan but i want to know more info not slate him he wants the money for himself!!!!!!!!!! natrually he'll wanna give some to his mum and family but the whole sob story of helping her get better ERM MONEY WONT HELP IN that sense :rolleyes::bored:

Well yes the reason i made this post was because the other night he said to help his mam get better and i just wondered how he would do that, the other poster made a good point though to support the rest of his family etc would be a fair point.

Kazanne
29-08-2009, 09:23 PM
His dad told him that his mother was getting better so she must be on the mend

JTM45
29-08-2009, 09:29 PM
It's so blatantly an attempt to gain sympathy and anyone with half a brain noticed what he was up to!

Things like that are supposed to be very personal to you and should be kept private out of respect for the dignity of the person who is ill (unless you're trying to use it to gain sympathy of course!).

I actually think it's awful that Charlie has done it.

Like Pixee said, her care would be covered anyway and no amount of money can 'cure' a coma.:nono:

pixee
29-08-2009, 09:30 PM
It's so blatantly an attempt to gain sympathy and anyone with half a brain noticed what he was up to!

Things like that are supposed to be very personal to you and should be kept private out of respect for the dignity of the person who is ill (unless you're trying to use it to gain sympathy of course!).

I actually think it's awful that Charlie has done it.

Like Pixee said, her care would be covered anyway and no amount of money can 'cure' a coma.:nono:

You've said what I wanted to say without been mean lol

MissKittyFantastico
29-08-2009, 09:32 PM
It's so blatantly an attempt to gain sympathy and anyone with half a brain noticed what he was up to!

Things like that are supposed to be very personal to you and should be kept private out of respect for the dignity of the person who is ill (unless you're trying to use it to gain sympathy of course!).

I actually think it's awful that Charlie has done it.

Like Pixee said, her care would be covered anyway and no amount of money can 'cure' a coma.:nono:

Agree with this.

I also didn't like the way that Charlie said, after recieving his message from his dad, that his mum was getting better because he's still in the house. I know that coma patients can sometimes 'hear' people talking to them, so maybe she is aware that Charlie is doing well in some fashion, but to actually come out and say that was pretty deplorable imo.

He may as well have said, let me win because it's the only way my mum can be made better!

GypsyGoth
29-08-2009, 09:33 PM
I've heard that buying yourself loads of new clothes, going partying and going on lots of holidays can cure other peoples' comas.

pixee
29-08-2009, 09:33 PM
It's so blatantly an attempt to gain sympathy and anyone with half a brain noticed what he was up to!

Things like that are supposed to be very personal to you and should be kept private out of respect for the dignity of the person who is ill (unless you're trying to use it to gain sympathy of course!).

I actually think it's awful that Charlie has done it.

Like Pixee said, her care would be covered anyway and no amount of money can 'cure' a coma.:nono:

Agree with this.

I also didn't like the way that Charlie said, after recieving his message from his dad, that his mum was getting better because he's still in the house. I know that coma patients can sometimes 'hear' people talking to them, so maybe she is aware that Charlie is doing well in some fashion, but to actually come out and say that was pretty deplorable imo.

He may as well have said, let me win because it's the only way my mum can be made better!



Well wouldn't it help her more for him to be talking to her, i've heard that they respond to this?

Combo
29-08-2009, 09:39 PM
He wants it so he can pay for better treatment.

The_Long_Run
29-08-2009, 09:41 PM
Charlie's mother is NOT in a coma!!!! She WAS in a coma for 6 months but no longer is. She is now in a nursing home where she is being cared for and given intensive therapy. Supplementary therapy is not covered by NHS. Charlie has not made a big thing of this in the house. In fact the first time it became a topic of specualtion in the Forum was after Isaac came out of the house on 1 August and said that Charlie was the most deserving winner. Charlie is a loving and committed son who has his mother's total blessing in being in the house, a view endorsed by his whole family.

Mrs. Drummond was nursery teacher and had set up a number of nurseries in the Newcastle area and was very involved in pre-school services.

alchemists1
29-08-2009, 09:44 PM
It's so blatantly an attempt to gain sympathy and anyone with half a brain noticed what he was up to!

Things like that are supposed to be very personal to you and should be kept private out of respect for the dignity of the person who is ill (unless you're trying to use it to gain sympathy of course!).

I actually think it's awful that Charlie has done it.

Like Pixee said, her care would be covered anyway and no amount of money can 'cure' a coma.:nono:

Agree with this.

I also didn't like the way that Charlie said, after recieving his message from his dad, that his mum was getting better because he's still in the house. I know that coma patients can sometimes 'hear' people talking to them, so maybe she is aware that Charlie is doing well in some fashion, but to actually come out and say that was pretty deplorable imo.

He may as well have said, let me win because it's the only way my mum can be made better!



Well wouldn't it help her more for him to be talking to her, i've heard that they respond to this?

Exactley.
I think Charlie has watched to much X-Factor and thou he needed a back up plan incase the FAKE cheeky chappie routine didnt work.
I think what tells alot is remember awhile back when Big Brother gave all the housemates a special prize each and they could get whateva they liked? Charlie wanted a big mac!

Kate!
29-08-2009, 09:47 PM
you are all Soooooooo CYNICAL.

GypsyGoth
29-08-2009, 09:47 PM
I think what tells alot is remember awhile back when Big Brother gave all the housemates a special prize each and they could get whateva they liked? Charlie wanted a big mac!

:laugh2:

Very true. He didn't want a message from his mom then.

KillER
29-08-2009, 09:48 PM
It's so blatantly an attempt to gain sympathy and anyone with half a brain noticed what he was up to!

Things like that are supposed to be very personal to you and should be kept private out of respect for the dignity of the person who is ill (unless you're trying to use it to gain sympathy of course!).

I actually think it's awful that Charlie has done it.

Like Pixee said, her care would be covered anyway and no amount of money can 'cure' a coma.:nono:
exactly what i think. theres also the question of if he cared that much would he really go away for however many months bb goes on for? i know if my mum was in a coma i wouldnt, id want to be with her especially incase anything were to happen.

alchemists1
29-08-2009, 09:48 PM
Any1 remember Craig from the 1st BB?
He done a real good thing but he never mentioned anything till he had won!
Why talk about what you will do with the winnings if you have'nt won yet?
Fair enough if Charlie will use the money to help his mum IF he wins but why mention it! you've not won! yet?

The_Long_Run
29-08-2009, 09:50 PM
Exactley.
I think Charlie has watched to much X-Factor and thou he needed a back up plan incase the FAKE cheeky chappie routine didnt work.

Charlie's mother is NOT in a coma!!!! She WAS in a coma for 6 months but no longer is. She is now in a nursing home where she is being cared for and given intensive therapy. Supplementary therapy is not covered by NHS. Charlie has not made a big thing of this in the house. In fact the first time it became a topic of specualtion in the Forum was after Isaac came out of the house on 1 August and said that Charlie was the most deserving winner. Charlie is a loving and committed son who has his mother's total blessing in being in the house, a view endorsed by his whole family.

Mrs. Drummond was nursery teacher and had set up a number of nurseries in the Newcastle area and was very involved in pre-school services.

of course some people are just nasty for the sake of it and ignore the facts of a situation.

alchemists1
29-08-2009, 09:52 PM
you are all Soooooooo CYNICAL.

OR we aint all stupid!
Fair enough it might be cynical but it's hard not to be when it comes to Charlie,if it walks like a duck,if it quacks like a duck don't moan when people think it's a duck lol or something like that.

The_Long_Run
29-08-2009, 09:53 PM
I think what tells alot is remember awhile back when Big Brother gave all the housemates a special prize each and they could get whateva they liked? Charlie wanted a big mac!

:laugh2:

Very true. He didn't want a message from his mom then.

All the HMs were told they were getting a message from home PLUS a special prize. Still why let FACTS spoil your prejudiced little story?

GypsyGoth
29-08-2009, 09:53 PM
of course some people are just nasty for the sake of it and ignore the facts of a situation.



That sounds like Charlie.

GypsyGoth
29-08-2009, 09:56 PM
All the HMs were told they were getting a message from home PLUS a special prize. Still why let FACTS spoil your prejudiced little story?

I'm not prejudiced against Charlie. You are biased towards him.

He has shown himself to think about no one but himslef and you claim he is a caring nice genuine guy. Where is the proof of that?

The_Long_Run
29-08-2009, 09:59 PM
of course some people are just nasty for the sake of it and ignore the facts of a situation.



That sounds like Charlie.

Which explains why the HMs speak so positively of him. When did you have your logic engine removed?

GypsyGoth
29-08-2009, 10:00 PM
Which explains why the HMs speak so positively of him. When did you have your logic engine removed?

I had to sell my logic engine to buy food :sad:

mado
29-08-2009, 10:01 PM
if my mum was in a coma, and i had the money i would want the best care possible

unfortunately the nhs dont give the care i would want for my mum

JustSkipIt
29-08-2009, 10:02 PM
… Charlie has not made a big thing of this in the house. In fact the first time it became a topic of specualtion in the Forum was after Isaac came out of the house on 1 August and said that Charlie was the most deserving winner…



I'm not saying you're wrong, I don't know either way, but if Charlie hadn't been talking about it in the house, how would Issac know? We don't get to see all the conversations that happen in there.

Either way, if Charlie is to win, it should be on his own merits, not because he has a sick mother

alchemists1
29-08-2009, 10:02 PM
All the HMs were told they were getting a message from home PLUS a special prize. Still why let FACTS spoil your prejudiced little story?

I'm not prejudiced against Charlie. You are biased towards him.

He has shown himself to think about no one but himslef and you claim he is a caring nice genuine guy. Where is the proof of that?

That's what some people don't understand we aint prejudiced against any1 but we are entitled to our own opinion just like they are.
The long run is from Newcastle so I understand the loyalty but be honest about what people are like rather than blame every1 else for being wrong.

Patricia4
29-08-2009, 10:02 PM
Im not bothered about Charlie I dont like him never have, he showed his true colours when voting Marcus out and he was told his reasons were not good enough and he said I can say more and said he's nasty he's awful he swears alot.
What a dick.
Good luck to his mother to get well.:thumbs:

atieah2009
29-08-2009, 10:11 PM
Charlie's mother is NOT in a coma!!!! She WAS in a coma for 6 months but no longer is. She is now in a nursing home where she is being cared for and given intensive therapy. Supeopleementary therapy is not covered by NHS. Charlie has not made a big thing of this in the house. In fact the first time it became a topic of specualtion in the Forum was after Isaac came out of the house on 1 August and said that Charlie was the most deserving winner. Charlie is a loving and committed son who has his mother's total blessing in being in the house, a view endorsed by his whole family.

Mrs. Drummond was nursery teacher and had set up a number of nurseries in the Newcastle area and was very involved in pre-school services.



I do agree with you slightly, but Charlie by no means is a deserved winner and i do think he might help his family but as far as i've seen he;s been greedy, stingy and two faced.

a person who decided he wants a big mac meal instantly without thinking about 'me mam' is appaling i can see he cares about his mum but i think most of the time he cares about his desires and himself!

Daisys
29-08-2009, 10:32 PM
Charlie's mother is NOT in a coma!!!! She WAS in a coma for 6 months but no longer is. She is now in a nursing home where she is being cared for and given intensive therapy. Supeopleementary therapy is not covered by NHS. Charlie has not made a big thing of this in the house. In fact the first time it became a topic of specualtion in the Forum was after Isaac came out of the house on 1 August and said that Charlie was the most deserving winner. Charlie is a loving and committed son who has his mother's total blessing in being in the house, a view endorsed by his whole family.

Mrs. Drummond was nursery teacher and had set up a number of nurseries in the Newcastle area and was very involved in pre-school services.



What 'supeopleementary (sic) therapy' is not covered by the NHS? Presuming his mum is out of her coma, she would be receiving whatever therapy she was needing, be it physiotherapy, occupational therapy or speech therapy, all on the NHS.

BBfan46
29-08-2009, 10:33 PM
His dad told him that his mother was getting better so she must be on the mend

He could of just said it so he didn't worry :\

atieah2009
29-08-2009, 10:38 PM
His dad told him that his mother was getting better so she must be on the mend

He could of just said it so he didn't worry :\

Not to be rude but it seemed like he rarely looked like he cared and he was just in there having a good time, which is fine he wants to put him self away from the stress of thinking about family and his life which is what bb does to you.

The_Long_Run
29-08-2009, 10:45 PM
All the HMs were told they were getting a message from home PLUS a special prize. Still why let FACTS spoil your prejudiced little story?

I'm not prejudiced against Charlie. You are biased towards him.

He has shown himself to think about no one but himslef and you claim he is a caring nice genuine guy. Where is the proof of that?

Your suggestion that there was something wrong in asking for a Big Mac when he should have been asking for a message from his mum. In spite of the fact that he was getting a message from home already clearly gives the lie to your claim that you are not prejudiced! Pure knocking copy that disregards the facts of the situation demonstrates prejudice! QED

Daisys
29-08-2009, 11:01 PM
'The_Long_Run', please can you tell me which therapies Charlie is intending to pay for, as his mum is not receiving them on the NHS? You obviously know the family (or are you part of the family?). I am very interested. :conf:

GypsyGoth
29-08-2009, 11:08 PM
Your suggestion that there was something wrong in asking for a Big Mac when he should have been asking for a message from his mum. In spite of the fact that he was getting a message from home already clearly gives the lie to your claim that you are not prejudiced! Pure knocking copy that disregards the facts of the situation demonstrates prejudice! QED

I don't fully understand; what is a "knocking copy" and am I being called one of those (whatever it means)?

Daisys
29-08-2009, 11:11 PM
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The_Long_Run
29-08-2009, 11:14 PM
Your suggestion that there was something wrong in asking for a Big Mac when he should have been asking for a message from his mum. In spite of the fact that he was getting a message from home already clearly gives the lie to your claim that you are not prejudiced! Pure knocking copy that disregards the facts of the situation demonstrates prejudice! QED

I don't fully understand; what is a "knocking copy" and am I being called one of those (whatever it means)?

Oh you sensitive soul. You are being called nothing. What you write is knocking copy. Contributions that are intended simply to harm the person you are writing about. Usually (and in your case) unfounded or founded upon a lie.

For the record, I called your story prejudiced, not you! Forgive the sinner, hate the sin.

Shasown
29-08-2009, 11:17 PM
Right for the last time she isnt in a coma

She is in a Commer, she was last seen squatting in a commer van on the quayside. Charlie wants to buy her a nice flat on the tyne. What an upstanding young man. Vote for Charlie

GypsyGoth
29-08-2009, 11:18 PM
Oh you sensitive soul. You are being called nothing. What you write is knocking copy. Contributions that are intended simply to harm the person you are writing about. Usually (and in your case) unfounded or founded upon a lie.

For the record, I called your story prejudiced, not you! Forgive the sinner, hate the sin.

I didn't mean to sound sensitive, I just didn't understand. Thanks for explaining.

But couldn't Charlie have asked to visit his mum? Instead of for junk food?

The_Long_Run
29-08-2009, 11:21 PM
'The_Long_Run', please can you tell me which therapies Charlie is intending to pay for, as his mum is not receiving them on the NHS? You obviously know the family (or are you part of the family?). I am very interested. :conf:

In line with TiBB rules an recommendations, you know that I have already responded to this in a U2U exchange. Your posting here is not helpful.

ALL NHS care is limited by budgetary constraints. As you are apparently a Registered Nurse, you will know that there are countless examples of where self help initiatives have to be employed to achieve optimum care. Also, where a patient is no longer in hospital but has moved on to a nursing home, but is not well enough to be cared for at home, the care costs have to be privately funded.

ENOUGH, please, if you wish to continue this, this is NOT the place.

Daisys
29-08-2009, 11:43 PM
'The_Long_Run', please can you tell me which therapies Charlie is intending to pay for, as his mum is not receiving them on the NHS? You obviously know the family (or are you part of the family?). I am very interested. :conf:

In line with TiBB rules an recommendations, you know that I have already responded to this in a U2U exchange. Your posting here is not helpful.

ALL NHS care is limited by budgetary constraints. As you are apparently a Registered Nurse, you will know that there are countless examples of where self help initiatives have to be employed to achieve optimum care. Also, where a patient is no longer in hospital but has moved on to a nursing home, but is not well enough to be cared for at home, the care costs have to be privately funded.

ENOUGH, please, if you wish to continue this, this is NOT the place.

Please take a look at the time of that post on this thread, it was 6 minutes before your pm, so I really have no idea what your problem is. You obviously have an agenda but I'm sorry, I have no wish to get caught up in it, so I've just put you on my ignore list. I suggest you do the same with me.

Vicky.
29-08-2009, 11:49 PM
Money wouldnt help his mum in the slightest.

It may help him get out of his brain and forget about her for a few months though.

Maybe this is what he means.

BTW I'm from newcastle also, and not all people from there love charlie because of where he is from, quite the opposite actually...most people Ive spoken to cant stand him. Plus a lot of them, including myself know him outside of BB and this makes us dislike him even more :wink:

Lauren
29-08-2009, 11:53 PM
Plus a lot of them, including myself know him outside of BB and this makes us dislike him even more :wink:

He's hardly an enigma to hate outside of the house? He doesnt do much particulaly wrong, to warrant dislike?

The_Long_Run
29-08-2009, 11:55 PM
Money wouldnt help his mum in the slightest.

It may help him get out of his brain and forget about her for a few months though.

Maybe this is what he means.

BTW I'm from newcastle also, and not all people from there love charlie because of where he is from, quite the opposite actually...most people Ive spoken to cant stand him. Plus a lot of them, including myself know him outside of BB and this makes us dislike him even more :wink:

Clearly not all people who know Charlie outside BB can't stand him, he reallly is a nice lad. I would wager that Vicky is in a minority. (hence the little wink at the end of her post.) :hello:

Vicky.
29-08-2009, 11:57 PM
Clearly not all people who know Charlie outside BB can't stand him, he reallly is a nice lad. I would wager that Vicky is in a minority. (hence the little wink at the end of her post.) :hello:

You keep telling yourself that...get down the pink triangle if you really are from newcastle...try asking a few peoples opinions...

Vicky.
29-08-2009, 11:59 PM
Plus a lot of them, including myself know him outside of BB and this makes us dislike him even more :wink:

He's hardly an enigma to hate outside of the house? He doesnt do much particulaly wrong, to warrant dislike?

Hes fecking awful out of the house. He starts fights for not much reason, is ridiculously bitchy and I saw him throw a drink over someone about a year ago just for walking into him.

So yeah...I dont think hes done too much inside the house to be hated...to be honest Im quite surprised at the level of hatred for him, but I dislike him because I know the cheeky chappie thing is fake. Thats all thats to it really...

golden
30-08-2009, 12:08 AM
Ok I'm not a Charlie fan (as Long_Run knows!) for similar reasons to a lot of people out there & I believe we have a right to express our opinions. However I do not think it's right at all to be criticising him for choosing a hamburger. That's below the belt. And I disagree with that woman on BBBM who said he should never have come on the show if his mother was ill. If Charlie was crying every day for his mum then you could make that statement.

We have to remember we're voting for the hm we like best & who deserves to win. We're not voting for which hm would spend the money better. At this rate the money's gonna be only about 10 grand anyway!

alan1965
30-08-2009, 12:27 AM
leave charlie alone you sad feckers.you know nothing about aneurysm.so i rest my case.he wants too win the show so he can better his mam and dads lives?

alan1965
30-08-2009, 12:30 AM
you sados watch hollyoaks.and eli stone thats when this things came to life

Shasown
30-08-2009, 01:06 AM
leave charlie alone you sad feckers.you know nothing about aneurysm.so i rest my case.he wants too win the show so he can better his mam and dads lives?

Obviously you dont because its an aneurysm, its where the side of a blood vessel isnt strong enough to withstand the pressure of the blood flow through and it bulges like a balloon.