View Full Version : Science's small lie....
sexy_rach
24-07-2005, 07:15 PM
Well i guess its kind of a lie.
My ex boyfriends grandma lives next door to science's mum, and its quite a nice area up there, so when science makes out he lives in the 'ghetto' with all his 'possey' i dont he can be that bad off, if his mums quite well off. Yet again hes making himself out to be something he's not.
Correct me if im wrong :bigsmile:
Red Moon
24-07-2005, 07:16 PM
It's about right I posted some thing about it somewhere sexy_rach
sexy_rach
24-07-2005, 07:18 PM
Just call me Rach :thumbs:
Ill have a look for that. cheers Red
His area looked kind of rough from what I saw of it, has a bit of a bad rep.
stoney12
24-07-2005, 07:19 PM
I thought he used'hood' as in neighbourhood and 'posse' is used a lot by everyone.Even steve wright on radio 2 as a posse.
Nature
24-07-2005, 07:20 PM
its leeds, them ends dont have reps lol there any ends unheard of ends lol
sexy_rach
24-07-2005, 07:24 PM
Nature you trying to say Leeds is rough?
science_to_win
24-07-2005, 07:41 PM
I think he would have been referring more to his life than actual situation. I mean his family must have been involved with some dodgy people, because there was a story about him uncle. bless his cottons.
If sexy_rach would like to fill me in on where abouts in leeds this is, I would pay more than a million pounds :thumbs:
science_to_win
24-07-2005, 07:44 PM
I wouldnt really. I dont own the money :bawling:
sexy_rach
24-07-2005, 07:50 PM
Well if my ex was telling the truth then it was Chapel Town
Red Moon
24-07-2005, 07:59 PM
Found it.... it part of a much longer post
I didn't describe the area of the Leeds that Science comes from as a ghetto. Science does that himself. I told you what it is like. I live less than 3 miles from the area of Leeds that Science comes from. The people there are the most wonderful people in Leeds. They help give this city it's great warmth and character. The cameras installed there have made such a difference to that part of the city by day. Unfortunately it retains it's image for crime and illegal substances are still available in the area. The EU and the City Council are investing strongly in the area to improve it. Slow this money is reaping rewards for the people in the area. However it will retain it's ghetto image as long as people that live there think of it in that way and promote it as such.
The people living in Sciences part of Leeds are being given opportunities to improve there lives. Money is in place to allow the private and public sector to work together and help bring about the much needed new jobs, businesses, investment, as well as the wider economic regeneration of that part of Leeds. The City has in place schemes to get rid of health and education inequalities in the area. Science doesn't come from a ghetto.
Less than a mile from where I am now is one of the real Leeds ghetto's. Where you don't get a job just because of your post code. Were the streets are no go area's at any time of the day. If you want to buy an illegal substance just ask and someone will point you to the nearest dealer. All Illegal substances are dealt in the open, after all what is there to fear from prison when you live in a prison camp already. The kids that grow up there have no hope unless they move away. Many of them would love to live where Science lives where the streets are safe by day. But they are trapped they because of lack of opportunities and hope.
selfinflicted
24-07-2005, 08:37 PM
Rather than debating whether or not Leeds is a 'ghetto', isn't the more pressing concern the fact that everyone appears to treat this as some kind of achievement, to be worn like a badge of honour?
I come from a fairly notorious area of Luton, and I can tell you it isn't all that great. :bored:
Nature
24-07-2005, 08:38 PM
Originally posted by sexy_rach
Nature you trying to say Leeds is rough?
hell no nothing goes on there lol
ThaGazBoi
24-07-2005, 08:38 PM
lol
Red Moon
24-07-2005, 08:46 PM
A very valid point selfinflicted.
The word ghetto has become linked with poverty, crime, joblessness, deteriorated housing, rampant drug activity, and shattered families. The popular hip-hop movement recaptured the term "ghetto," along with its negative connotations, from the mainstream and reinvested it as a symbol of black culture and it has become used in the titles or a number of popular songs. And it now used with to denote black pride and authenticity.
Science used the term as a badge of pride associated with the hip-hop culture.
science_to_win
24-07-2005, 09:21 PM
Originally posted by Red Moon
A very valid point selfinflicted.
The word ghetto has become linked with poverty, crime, joblessness, deteriorated housing, rampant drug activity, and shattered families. The popular hip-hop movement recaptured the term "ghetto," along with its negative connotations, from the mainstream and reinvested it as a symbol of black culture and it has become used in the titles or a number of popular songs. And it now used with to denote black pride and authenticity.
Science used the term as a badge of pride associated with the hip-hop culture.
I dont think he used it proudly, but instead to get people to understand him
science_to_win
24-07-2005, 09:21 PM
Also if that's where he is from, then someone would be proud
Nature
24-07-2005, 09:25 PM
it could be based on a lie, pretendning how hard he has it making it look like hes having it harder than he does
science_to_win
24-07-2005, 09:26 PM
Originally posted by Nature
it could be based on a lie, pretendning how hard he has it making it look like hes having it harder than he does I don't think he would need to do that, he was interesting enough. Anyway I think its pretty damn obvious hes not from Dereks social circles
Red Moon
24-07-2005, 09:26 PM
I don't think Science lied.... I really think he does see himself as coming from the ghetto.
Originally posted by Nature
Originally posted by sexy_rach
Nature you trying to say Leeds is rough?
hell no nothing goes on there lol
What do you mean by that?
Nature
24-07-2005, 10:00 PM
i have a cousin living in leeds and she says it aint as ruff as science makes it out to be its morely a posh area to live
Every city has it's bad areas and chapletown does have a bad rep from what I have heard.
Red Moon
24-07-2005, 10:04 PM
It's a lot better than it was a few years ago BB fernzy.
Nature
24-07-2005, 10:04 PM
but we all can just go by what we have heard but we dont really know true say
Jayne
24-07-2005, 10:23 PM
To be perfectly honest, it doesn't matter where someone comes from, just where they are headed. I know Science is impressed by the hip hop culture that dominates nowadays but Leeds is not Compton is it? There are rough areas everywhere nowadays anyway. I think deep down Science is a very sensitive individual and the tough rapper from the hood is just a cover. He obviously wants a better life, that's why he went on Big Brother and this is admirable. More young black lads should follow his lead and strive for the respect and recognition they want, you just have to earn it.
Red Moon
24-07-2005, 10:29 PM
Originally posted by Jayne
To be perfectly honest, it doesn't matter where someone comes from, just where they are headed. I know Science is impressed by the hip hop culture that dominates nowadays but Leeds is not Compton is it? There are rough areas everywhere nowadays anyway. I think deep down Science is a very sensitive individual and the tough rapper from the hood is just a cover. He obviously wants a better life, that's why he went on Big Brother and this is admirable. More young black lads should follow his lead and strive for the respect and recognition they want, you just have to earn it.
Well said Jayne. I wish would get more of them through the doors were I work and give them the opportunities they deserve in life.
ThaGazBoi
25-07-2005, 10:03 AM
true
OPL73
25-07-2005, 10:11 AM
Originally posted by sexy_rach
Well i guess its kind of a lie.
My ex boyfriends grandma lives next door to science's mum, and its quite a nice area up there, so when science makes out he lives in the 'ghetto' with all his 'possey' i dont he can be that bad off, if his mums quite well off. Yet again hes making himself out to be something he's not.
Correct me if I'm wrong :bigsmile:
Just wanted to put my two penny's worth in. It's not a lie. My friends who's Grandma blah blah blah. Where did you get this info?!!
Science is from an area in Leeds called Chapletown. It's only a small area but the majority of people who live there are black or Asian. To understand what he means by 'The Hood' or to give an example of a place like Chapletown which is well known and compare, I would have to say 'Brixton' in London and 'The Bronx' in New York. Albeit, these two area's are much more notorious for drugs and crime etc. Although I think Hackney has taken over from Brixton in that respect.
Anyway, Chapletown used to be like that. It was rife with people selling drugs (young kids). People buying drugs. There were shootings and violence every time Carnival Season came about. It still is bad but not as bad as it used to be. People in the Community have tried to change this for the better and it is working. It is no longer a no go area for Taxi's as it used to be and you don't feel as vunerable as you used to be walking by yourself at night.
Before you had a high percentage of muggings. However, there are now alot of CCTV camera's in his area which has seen the percentage of muggings go down. So it is not as bad as it used to be. There is a certain level of crime that is still there in the background. There is always a strong Police presence and guaranteed every so often you see some kid running through somebody's garden with a Policeman hot on his trail!
So, Science isn't a liar. He is from this area. He is not bang smack in the middle of it. He lives in a nice house his family is nice etc, but he is from this area.
OPL73
25-07-2005, 10:16 AM
Originally posted by Red Moon
A very valid point selfinflicted.
The word ghetto has become linked with poverty, crime, joblessness, deteriorated housing, rampant drug activity, and shattered families. The popular hip-hop movement recaptured the term "ghetto," along with its negative connotations, from the mainstream and reinvested it as a symbol of black culture and it has become used in the titles or a number of popular songs. And it now used with to denote black pride and authenticity.
Science used the term as a badge of pride associated with the hip-hop culture.
Spot on except for the pride bit.
ThaGazBoi
25-07-2005, 10:16 AM
:xyxwave:
Fangz
25-07-2005, 10:28 AM
I know what you mean, RedMoon, people use 'ghetto' as a good thing. I'm not saying you should be ashamed to come from a sh*tty area, but sometimes it gets taken to ridiculous extremes.
I went to a school that was in a rough area, and people who weren't from the local council-estate tended to get beaten up...
xlozx92x
25-07-2005, 10:50 AM
ye i agree that is what chapletown is like but science does not live there anymore he now lives in harehills and when he was saying about where he lived on big brother he wasnt lieing he was saying how it used to be it has changed alot recently so maybe if he was saying it was like that now then he would be lieing but since though he was saying about when he used to live there he is not lieing but i get where people are coming from as they proberly did not know what chapletown used to be like
Originally posted by xlozx92x
ye i agree that is what chapletown is like but science does not live there anymore he now lives in london and when he was saying about where he lived on big brother he wasnt lieing he was saying how it used to be it has changed alot recently so maybe if he was saying it was like that now then he would be lieing but since though he was saying about when he used to live there he is not lieing but i get where people are coming from as they proberly did not know what chapletown used to be like
He does not live in London, he still lives with his parents and siblings in Chapletown.
xlozx92x
25-07-2005, 03:40 PM
eh what you on science doesn't live with his parents anymore
Nature
25-07-2005, 03:44 PM
he lives in leeds lol
xlozx92x
25-07-2005, 04:04 PM
How can science live with his mum if his mum lives in chapletown and he lives in harehills ! :mad:
sexy_rach
25-07-2005, 04:28 PM
Well if George was telling the truth loz, then his parents are in chapel town
xlozx92x
25-07-2005, 04:35 PM
ye his parents do live in chapeltown but eh lives in harehills he doesn't live with his parents anymore
Tanser_Man
25-07-2005, 04:39 PM
Who cares, if he thinks he's from the ghetto in his own diluded mind, so beit.
GlitterEyes
25-07-2005, 04:48 PM
Yeah who cares where he is actually from, he is just "bigging up" where he comes from so he is popular when he gets back lol.
Originally posted by xlozx92x
ye his parents do live in chapeltown but eh lives in harehills he doesn't live with his parents anymore
Where did you get that from?
Nature
25-07-2005, 06:27 PM
lool science aint from london i know by the way he acts, and he would have picked up most of the london slang but he hasnt
Yer he was on the radio this morning and he was talking about living in chapeltown and that sometime in the future he might like to move to London but he don't live in London.
xlozx92x
25-07-2005, 06:34 PM
Originally posted by BB fernzy
Originally posted by xlozx92x
ye his parents do live in chapeltown but eh lives in harehills he doesn't live with his parents anymore
Where did you get that from?
do you people only watch highlights he siad it when he was in the house and ye si have already said i have made a mistake he does not live in london and cause he doesn't have the accent does not mean he hasn't never lived in london my auntie comes from scotland and stil talks scottish shes lived in leeds 15 yrs and if you head her would not sya she lived in leeds so accent is nothing to do with it
OPL73
25-07-2005, 06:34 PM
Originally posted by BB fernzy
Originally posted by xlozx92x
ye his parents do live in chapeltown but eh lives in harehills he doesn't live with his parents anymore
Where did you get that from?
Yep, I want to know where you got that from too!
Do you know him? Nope, don't think you do. I happen to know him, you see.
Originally posted by xlozx92x
Originally posted by BB fernzy
Originally posted by xlozx92x
ye his parents do live in chapeltown but eh lives in harehills he doesn't live with his parents anymore
Where did you get that from?
do you people only watch highlights he siad it when he was in the house
That's funny because he only ever talked about living in Chapeltown in the house and on the radio this morning. He has not got enough money to move out of his parents house.
xlozx92x
25-07-2005, 06:38 PM
omg i swear you people are pathetic its ridicolous your all nearly haveing heart attack no i dont know him but how would you know that for all you lot know he could have been my brother think before you speak and just because he didn't speak about it does not mean he didn't live there ive lived in palces i never talk about
OPL73
25-07-2005, 06:52 PM
Originally posted by xlozx92x
omg i swear you people are pathetic its ridicolous your all nearly haveing heart attack no i dont know him but how would you know taht for all ypu lot know he could have been my brotehr think before you speak and just because he dint speak about it does not mean he dint live thers ive lived in palecs i never talka bout
Yawn. Yes it is pretty boring. Ever thought of using spell check by any chance? I did not understand one word of the above.
PS My nephew is friends with him, so it's staight from the horse's mouth.
xlozx92x
25-07-2005, 06:58 PM
all think what you like i cant be botherd with it anymore its pathetic your all going mad over one little thing this whole thing is ment to be about science saying he live in the ghetto not who or where he lives and im very sorry OPL73 that my typing and spelling is not perfect just because your a genius at spelling does not mean i am and for the typing errors i shall check it in future
Nobody is going mad over it we are just correcting you on something you said. Surely to know whether he lives in the ghetto you would have to know what area he lives so it is a part of the topic. You could do well taking your own advice about thinking before speaking.
xlozx92x
25-07-2005, 07:07 PM
right ok well im sorry for saying something really did not expect this to happen
OPL73
25-07-2005, 07:16 PM
Originally posted by xlozx92x
all think what you like i cant be botherd with it anymore its pathetic your all going mad over one little thing this whole thing is ment to be about science saying he live in the ghetto not who or where he lives and I'm very sorry OPL73 that my typing and spelling is not perfect just because your a genius at spelling does not mean i am and for the typing errors i shall check it in future
LOL A genius? Moi?
How old are you? You don't half get your nickers in a twist! Don't apologise you shouldn't give two Schitts what I write! However, I am glad you are now checking the typing errors. It doesn't hurt my eyes now.
OPL73
25-07-2005, 07:18 PM
PS Your in this instance is you're not your.
xlozx92x
25-07-2005, 07:37 PM
why has my age got anything to do with this i arent argueing with you anymore yes OPL73 i arent in an english lesson and thank you very much but my englsih is quiet fine thank you if your so bothered about age why don't you go tell someone your age that maybe cares
sexy_rach
25-07-2005, 07:41 PM
OPL73, for god sake, not every word has to be in perfect english, not even the queen will do every word perfect dear! Give the girl a break, i bet 97% of people of this board will say "your" and not "you're"
OPL73
25-07-2005, 08:01 PM
Originally posted by xlozx92x
why has my age got anything to do with this i arent argueing with you anymore yes OPL73 i arent in an english lesson and thank you very much but my englsih is quiet fine thank you if your so bothered about age why don't you go tell someone your age that maybe cares
I reckon you're about 15 or 16. I think you'll find the word is quite.:bigsmile:
Sorry! I can't help myself. By the way, this is a joke not to be taken seriously. You must learn not to let people wind you up.
science_to_win
25-07-2005, 08:02 PM
Originally posted by xlozx92x
all think what you like i cant be botherd with it anymore its pathetic your all going mad over one little thing this whole thing is ment to be about science saying he live in the ghetto not who or where he lives and I'm very sorry OPL73 that my typing and spelling is not perfect just because your a genius at spelling does not mean i am and for the typing errors i shall check it in future
I know it was meant to be about him coming from the ghetto, but of course people are going to take an interest in where he lives. I know I am taking an interest :love:
Sunny_01
25-07-2005, 08:03 PM
Can we please get this back on topic or we will have to lock this thread :colour:
science_to_win
25-07-2005, 08:06 PM
I think its all over now anyway lol
Sunny_01
25-07-2005, 08:24 PM
So the big question is did he tell porkies or not? I think that to be honest it is down to personal interpretation of the area that you live in. Science might well think that he is from the "ghetto" and others might think that where he is from is not as bad as where they are from I even think :dog: agrees
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