Riots in Manchester Hundreds of protesters face-off at anti-Islamic demonstration [Archive] - ThisisBigBrother.com

arista

10-10-2009, 05:13 PM

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30 people have been arrested
as hundreds of anti-Islamic and
anti-fascist protesters have clashed in Manchester

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The problems flared ahead of the
English Defence League's planned rally at 5pm

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1219446/Hundreds-protesters-face-anti-Islamic-demonstration.html

This is Typical no one can protest on there own
it would be better and unreported, even if they upset people,
if the protestors were on there own.

Manchester is a Area
that is has many groups.

Sign Of The Times.

30stone

10-10-2009, 05:23 PM

"The sight of a Union flag angered supporters of the UAF, prompting a large number of protesters to go in search of its holder."
Unite Against Fascism (UAF)

Why did they do that ? they were holding a flag? Ridiculous.

Chantel

10-10-2009, 05:33 PM

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Why did they do that ? they were holding a flag? Ridiculous.

My thoughts exactly

arista

10-10-2009, 08:08 PM

Chantel

10-10-2009, 08:11 PM

Simply to start the Fight
both sides go there with some wanting to sart a fight.
Their as bad as each other

arsenalforever

10-10-2009, 08:42 PM

only in England

arista

11-10-2009, 11:04 AM

only in England

Yes England has a Tribal History
still alive

InOne

11-10-2009, 11:08 AM

It's a shame it had to come to that. To be fair Muslims do alot of rioting themselves and are never afraid of drama or blowing things out of proportion.

Tom

11-10-2009, 12:21 PM

LOL @ the guys hairy belly that just stops at a random point

\PJ/

11-10-2009, 12:22 PM

Thats Coventry 24/7.

Novo

11-10-2009, 01:55 PM

InOne

11-10-2009, 01:57 PM

My friend went to that today he goes with the EDL

Think they have a right to take flags nowt wrong with that it aint offence carrying your own country's flag

Muslims should go back to there own country if they want Sharia law

I think that is the best thing you've ever posted lol

30stone

11-10-2009, 02:03 PM

LOL @ the guys hairy belly that just stops at a random point

What made me laugh is the horse **** in the background lol.

And Spot on andy!

MassiveTruck

11-10-2009, 03:48 PM

They say they're not racist but their chants towards muslims are.

I'm all for a group coming together against Islamic extremism and Extremist thought but there is a difference between a muslim and an extreme muslim.

They should, if they are really serious about this, drop the mob type mentality and nationalist behaviour and focus on politically changing the country so that we're not made to struggle and waste money and time, importantly time on stupid pandering to extremist thought.

We can't forget, we are a part of Europe and soon will be Europe so whether we like it or not, with the vast number of Muslims that will make up Europe - we should focus on working with muslims who want progression and modernisation and then, we can work with them against the extremists.

This way - these guys are just as bad as the extremists. Anger, Aggression doesn't help anybody.

Shaun

11-10-2009, 03:51 PM

My friend went to that today he goes with the EDL

Think they have a right to take flags nowt wrong with that it aint offence carrying your own country's flag

Muslims should go back to there own country if they want Sharia law

There isn't a "muslim country", how narrow-minded can you get?

The EDL isn't racist but the majority of its uneducated, uninformed and ignorant members are.

Tom

11-10-2009, 03:57 PM

There isn't a "muslim country", how narrow-minded can you get?

The EDL isn't racist but the majority of its uneducated, uninformed and ignorant members are.

Muslims must belong to some country

Shaun

11-10-2009, 03:58 PM

yeah the United Kingdom's multicultural - religion and nationality aren't the same thing.

if I decided to become a muslim would I have to **** off too? no.

Novo

11-10-2009, 03:59 PM

There isn't a "muslim country", how narrow-minded can you get?

The EDL isn't racist but the majority of its uneducated, uninformed and ignorant members are.

What i mean is that most muslims that live here are from another country and they demand that we change our laws to suit them????

Am all for the EDL protesting against a disgusting law like sharia there is even some places here now that hasve inforced sharia law.

The EDL protest against " Militant Islam and Extremists " not against the religion

Tom

11-10-2009, 04:05 PM

yeah the United Kingdom's multicultural - religion and nationality aren't the same thing.

if I decided to become a muslim would I have to **** off too? no.

Its actually a Protestant country, hence the Queen. Any ethnics are in a very small minority (something like 5% of the total population). We're not saying they should **** off, just that if they want their stupid law then go back to where they came from because this is Britain, if they want to live here then fine but they should live by our laws. They can like it or lump it. They don't have to be here.

Shaun

11-10-2009, 04:10 PM

InOne

11-10-2009, 04:17 PM

By the way there is no such thing as a fundamentalist muslim. All Musilms believe the quran is 100% truth and that dies in with our definition of fundamentalist. Muslims really have pushed their luck in this country, it is a piss take really.

Chantel

11-10-2009, 04:18 PM

Tom

11-10-2009, 04:20 PM

Yeah that's fair enough Andy - but it's some, not most muslims. The majority are pretty tolerant and happy enough to abide by the UK laws without demanding Sharia law.

and I dunno Tom, the amount of influence protestant christianity has upon our law is minimal, especially nowadays.

The basis of most laws come from the bible and christian holidays (Easter, Christmas etc) are very much part of our culture so I'd say its still a Protestant country as long as we have those as well as a royal family.

andyman

11-10-2009, 04:22 PM

After 9/11 a film crew went to some towns to film the local asians about their views..

Many young muslims had Bin Laden on their phones, the new muslim hero!

InOne

11-10-2009, 04:22 PM

How have they pushed their luck?

As in the way they acted when the whole drawings thing came out. They riot and protest about that yet cheer about 9/11. Also they think Britain owes them something, they want it as an Islamic state. They blow everything out of proportion and then you get the Muslim leader coming out saying this is a minority, erm I don't think so.

Chantel

11-10-2009, 04:26 PM

As in the way they acted when the whole drawings thing came out. They riot and protest about that yet cheer about 9/11. Also they think Britain owes them something, they want it as an Islamic state. They blow everything out of proportion and then you get the Muslim leader coming out saying this is a minority, erm I don't think so.
Not all of them do that though, their are some who are disgusted by what happened on 9/11

InOne

11-10-2009, 04:27 PM

Not all of them do that though, their are some who are disgusted by what happened on 9/11

Yeah obviously some are. All I am saying is it's not such a small minority as people think.

Chantel

11-10-2009, 04:29 PM

Yeah obviously some are. All I am saying is it's not such a small minority as people think.

But you shouldnt tar them all with the same brush

Shaun

11-10-2009, 04:29 PM

The basis of most laws come from the bible and christian holidays (Easter, Christmas etc) are very much part of our culture so I'd say its still a Protestant country as long as we have those as well as a royal family.

Brunei has a royal family :P

Chantel

11-10-2009, 04:29 PM

After 9/11 a film crew went to some towns to film the local asians about their views..

Many young muslims had Bin Laden on their phones, the new muslim hero!

Could have been a fake number

Novo

11-10-2009, 04:31 PM

Could have been a fake number

He means a picture off him

not actually him on the phone

Chantel

11-10-2009, 04:31 PM

He means a picture off him

not actually him on the phone
:joker:
sorry, misread

InOne

11-10-2009, 04:32 PM

But you shouldnt tar them all with the same brush

I am not. It's just how it is, I am sure how you are aware of how many Muslims turn up to protests such as the ones about the drawings. Plenty of signs of hate there. It is funny how peace quickly goes out the window with them.

Tom

11-10-2009, 04:48 PM

Brunei has a royal family :P

But I doubt their monarch is the head of our state church

InOne

11-10-2009, 04:57 PM

And of course there are Muslims countries. What the hell you on bout?

Chantel

11-10-2009, 05:39 PM

I am not. It's just how it is, I am sure how you are aware of how many Muslims turn up to protests such as the ones about the drawings. Plenty of signs of hate there. It is funny how peace quickly goes out the window with them.
I am aware yes, but you could say the same thing about the british people

InOne

11-10-2009, 05:48 PM

I am aware yes, but you could say the same thing about the british people

What do you mean?

Chantel

11-10-2009, 05:49 PM

What do you mean?
I mean peace goes out of the window with the British, they love starting riots, trust me

InOne

11-10-2009, 05:52 PM

I mean peace goes out of the window with the British, they love starting riots, trust me

Are you of some other decent? Yes but Islam claims to be a peaceful religion, thats what I was on about.

Chantel

11-10-2009, 05:57 PM

Are you of some other decent? Yes but Islam claims to be a peaceful religion, thats what I was on about.
You were implying that the Muslims turned up looking for trouble, when actually its the other way round.

arista

11-10-2009, 05:57 PM

yeah the United Kingdom's multicultural - religion and nationality aren't the same thing.

if I decided to become a muslim would I have to **** off too? no.

No
But they would Kill you as Bi or Gays
are Illegal and must be killed, under Muslim Rule.

InOne

11-10-2009, 05:58 PM

You were implying that the Muslims turned up looking for trouble, when actually its the other way round.

Well if they take signs like 'Slay those who insult Islam' with them, they kinda are looking for trouble. Do you not think?

Chantel

11-10-2009, 06:03 PM

Well if they take signs like 'Slay those who insult Islam' with them, they kinda are looking for trouble. Do you not think?
Yeah of course theres a minority that do go looking for trouble, what im saying is i live here and i see the racism and the trouble that goes on and 9 times out of 10 its the English that start it.

InOne

11-10-2009, 06:05 PM

Yeah of course theres a minority that do go looking for trouble, what im saying is i live here and i see the racism and the trouble that goes on and 9 times out of 10 its the English that start it.

I am not really talking about racism. I am talking about how Muslims react to something as silly as drawings. Also how it is meant to be a religion of peace yet they show so much anger.

Chantel

11-10-2009, 06:05 PM

I am not really talking about racism. I am talking about how Muslims react to something as silly as drawings. Also how it is meant to be a religion of peace yet they show so much anger.
The Muslims are provoked, i've seen this on many occasions

arista

11-10-2009, 06:07 PM

I am not really talking about racism. I am talking about how Muslims react to something as silly as drawings. Also how it is meant to be a religion of peace yet they show so much anger.

InOne They are Not about Peace
They are About Honour Killings
Gay or Bi's not permitted to be Muslim.

The Whole Muslim Problem is they are Extreme.

Novo

11-10-2009, 06:07 PM

Muslims are not provoked

There relgion centers around Violence and Death it's like there obsessed with it
even there laws demand people be killed for crimes like thieft!! what the ****

InOne

11-10-2009, 06:07 PM

The Muslims are provoked, i've seen this on many occasions

Not really. It doesn't take much. They enjoy the media attention. They get wound up by somebody preaching, there is always a guy with a speaker phone rambling on.

Chantel

11-10-2009, 06:08 PM

InOne They are Not about Peace
They are About Honour Killings
Gay or Bi's not permitted to be Muslim.

Thev Whole Muslim Problem is they are Extreme.

You dont even know that all of them are like that

arista

11-10-2009, 06:08 PM

Muslims are not provoked

There relgion centers around Violence and Death it's like there obsessed with it
even there laws demand people be killed for crimes like thieft!! what the ****

Bang On Right
Andy.

And it is Ironic as there is No God , anyway.

Chantel

11-10-2009, 06:09 PM

Muslims are not provoked

There relgion centers around Violence and Death it's like there obsessed with it
even there laws demand people be killed for crimes like thieft!! what the ****

Not all Muslims are like that!
So calling a Muslim a "terrorist" is not provoking them?

InOne

11-10-2009, 06:10 PM

InOne They are Not about Peace
They are About Honour Killings
Gay or Bi's not permitted to be Muslim.

The Whole Muslim Problem is they are Extreme.

Yeah I know. But that is what they always claim. They are hypocrites basically.

arista

11-10-2009, 06:10 PM

You dont even know that all of them are like that

No not all are like that
I know.

But because of the Extreme Muslims
still in this Nation
it will get worse
Fact.

InOne

11-10-2009, 06:11 PM

Nobody calls Muslims terrorists at their demonstrations. There is the the myth of Islamophobia or whatever as well.

arista

11-10-2009, 06:13 PM

Not all Muslims are like that!
So calling a Muslim a "terrorist" is not provoking them?

If that Muslim is Not a Terrorist then it is wrong.

But Khan the Muslim Supply Teacher that led the London Bombers
never gave anything away.
He was a Normal nice Supply Teacher.

But Not on that Evil Day.

Because of Extreme Muslims still in the UK
it will get worse.

arista

11-10-2009, 06:15 PM

Nobody calls Muslims terrorists at their demonstrations. There is the the myth of Islamophobia or whatever as well.

No they do.
But at a Demo all kinds on every side go.

InOne

11-10-2009, 06:17 PM

No they do.
But at a Demo all kinds on every side go.

I guess. But if you stop questioning and accept the good in all you get another 9/11 or 7/7. You don't have to be a dickhead about it but it is good to enquire.

Chantel

11-10-2009, 06:18 PM

If that Muslim is Not a Terrorist then it is wrong.

But Khan the Muslim Supply Teacher that led the London Bombers
never gave anything away.
He was a Normal nice Supply Teacher.

But Not on that Evil Day.

Because of Extreme Muslims still in the UK
it will get worse.
Exactly, if their not a terrorist and their being called one just for being a Muslim, that is provoking them right?

arista

11-10-2009, 06:23 PM

Exactly, if their not a terrorist and their being called one just for being a Muslim, that is provoking them right?

Yes it is.

But due to Extreme Muslims
in England and Scotland it will not change.

The Muslim London Bomber Khan
used the Illegal Inavsion of Iraq for his Evil
So Blair made everything worse.

Chantel

11-10-2009, 06:27 PM

Yes it is.

But due to Extreme Muslims
in England and Scotland it will not change.

The Muslim London Bomber Khan
used the Illegal Inavsion of Iraq for his Evil
So Blair made everything worse.

Thank You

I dont condone what the extremists do, i just feel bad for the decent Muslims who are nothing like them and are accused of all sorts of things

Shaun

11-10-2009, 06:30 PM

arista

11-10-2009, 06:33 PM

I think the problem lies in just calling "them" "muslims".

There's sweeping general statements galore in here. Not one of the parties involved in these riots represent a whole group of people, it's just a couple of idiots being idiots.

Sure but
Muslims are under one control, one book.

And Extreme Muslims do not care about the other Muslims.

InOne

11-10-2009, 06:34 PM

Yes you get idiots with all groups, but no other groups take it to such extremes as the Muslims do all in the name of Religion. Obviously not all Muslims are like that, but Extremists are not really a minority anymore. Even what you would call a moderate Muslim tunrs up at demos like that though and joins in with the anger. I would say it is the youth fuled by the older Imams.

arista

11-10-2009, 06:36 PM

InOne

11-10-2009, 06:38 PM

Yes Islamic Schools that Stupid Blair set up
also can be a problem.

Yep, these Islamic centres are popping up everywhere now.

arista

11-10-2009, 06:39 PM

Yep, these Islamic centres are popping up everywhere now.

Not all will be Bad,
but some can be
thats why these Demos will increase.

Chantel

11-10-2009, 06:41 PM

Yes Islamic Schools that Stupid Blair set up
also can be a problem.
All schools are problems, not just Islamic ones

InOne

11-10-2009, 06:41 PM

Not all will be Bad,
but some can be
thats why these Demos will increase.

Yeah well undercover Mosque proved that. It is very bad press for the UK if these demos increase. It is us who seems to have all the problems with Islam and get the bad attention from it.

InOne

11-10-2009, 06:42 PM

All schools are problems, not just Islamic ones

Rachel-x you don't have to be so defensive all the time it is just peoples opinions. We are talking about what they teach, sometimes they can twist it.

andyman

11-10-2009, 06:43 PM

Yes Islamic Schools that Stupid Blair set up
also can be a problem.Yep stick to your program Arista and blame "Stinking New Labour"

Chantel

11-10-2009, 06:43 PM

Rachel-x you don't have to be so defensive all the time it is just peoples opinions. We are talking about what they teach, sometimes they can twist it.
:joker:
Im not being defensive, they may twist it but you have no proof that they do

InOne

11-10-2009, 06:45 PM

:joker:
Im not being defensive, they may twist it but you have no proof that they do

Are you a Muslim or something? lol And did you watch undercover Mosque? It is known that some or those centres are schools preach hate messages.

arista

11-10-2009, 06:46 PM

Yep stick to your program Arista and blame "Stinking New Labour"

Hey New Labour Lover

They are In Power
I have Every Right to have a go at them.

Chantel

11-10-2009, 06:47 PM

Are you a Muslim or something? lol And did you watch undercover Mosque? It is known that some or those centres are schools preach hate messages.

No im not lol
No i didnt watch it, there may be the odd school that does

Chantel

11-10-2009, 06:48 PM

Hey New Labour Lover

They are In Power
I have Every Right to have a go at them.

What is your problem with New Labour?

InOne

11-10-2009, 06:48 PM

No im not lol
No i didnt watch it, there may be the odd school that does

But it does go on, and we can never really know how much.

andyman

11-10-2009, 06:50 PM

Blame Saudi Arabi.. It is their Islame that fuels this, they pump money into the schools..

Plus not all Islam is the same.

arista

11-10-2009, 06:50 PM

What is your problem with New Labour?

That is Not the topic here
with Respect Rachel X.

Chantel

11-10-2009, 06:50 PM

That is Not the topic here
with Respect Rachel X.
Well you brought them into it :thumbs:

Chantel

11-10-2009, 06:51 PM

Blame Saudi Arabi.. It is their Islame that fuels this, they pump money into the schools..

Plus not all Islam is the same.

Thats what i've been saying

arista

11-10-2009, 06:53 PM

Blame Saudi Arabi.. It is their Islame that fuels this, they pump money into the schools..

Plus not all Islam is the same.

Saudi Arabia is a Problem
thats the place some of the 9/11 team of Evil Killers
came from.

And you Are Right not all Islam is the same around the World.

But in England Islam Rules should be the same
and they are Not.

andyman

11-10-2009, 06:53 PM

Hey New Labour Lover

They are In Power
I have Every Right to have a go at them.Arista you do have every right to question the government, the greatness of this land.. But you always fail to back up anything political why the Conservatives should be in government..

arista

11-10-2009, 06:54 PM

Well you brought them into it :thumbs:

Yes If it is connected I can.
This is not a New Labour Control Forum.

InOne

11-10-2009, 06:55 PM

Well for now, Islam will continue to plauge the UK, as long as we let it.

arista

11-10-2009, 06:58 PM

Well for now, Islam will continue to plauge the UK, as long as we let it.

Yes and These Demos are Legal
and will carry on.

andyman

11-10-2009, 06:59 PM

Well for now, Islam will continue to plauge the UK, as long as we let it.Maybe thats why alot of voters have voted for the BNP.. But in the long run that would make matters worse..

Remember how the Nazis got into power? Blame the Jews..

InOne

11-10-2009, 07:00 PM

Maybe thats why alot of voters have voted for the BNP.. But in the long run that would make matters worse..

Remember how the Nazis got into power? Blame the Jews..

It should not have to go as extreme as the BNP though.

InOne

11-10-2009, 07:08 PM

Yes and These Demos are Legal
and will carry on.

Yep, and Muslims will carry on being so 'hurt' and 'offended' at silly things like drawings which they created anyway.

arista

11-10-2009, 07:12 PM

It should not have to go as extreme as the BNP though.

I will bring another Valid Connection in Here
the BNP got a Million votes and in Power
because New Labour voters stayed at home.

Because the BNP are now in the Main Stream Politics
they will be on BBC Question Time.

And this Demo was not by the BNP.

arista

11-10-2009, 07:15 PM

Yep, and Muslims will carry on being so 'hurt' and 'offended' at silly things like drawings which they created anyway.

Yes Even Matt Wright on the Ch5 morning Wright Stuff Ch5
wanted to show those Drawings
to show how silly it all is.
His Legal Team stopped him.

Sign Of The Times.

InOne

11-10-2009, 07:16 PM

Yes Even Matt Wright on the Ch5 morning Wright Stuff Ch5
wanted to show those Drawings
to show how silly it all is.
His Legal Team stopped him.

Sign Of The Times.

Yep, these are bad times we live in.

atieah2009

11-10-2009, 08:21 PM

It's a shame it had to come to that. To be fair Muslims do alot of rioting themselves and are never afraid of drama or blowing things out of proportion.

Yes muslims do it when 1500 people die in 1 month.

What on earth are these people protesting for?

And if we are "idiots" do they become twice as idiotic:nono:

atieah2009

11-10-2009, 08:24 PM

Yep, and Muslims will carry on being so 'hurt' and 'offended' at silly things like drawings which they created anyway.

Are you stupid? just drawings? Britain invaded iraq about 80 years ago and killed 100,000+ people, no dont blame the jews blaim the stupid goverment.

Starting wars for nothing and pathetic stuff such as funding iraq to kill 1,000,000 iranians and then you say why are they so "hurt"

InOne

11-10-2009, 08:37 PM

Are you stupid? just drawings? Britain invaded iraq about 80 years ago and killed 100,000+ people, no dont blame the jews blaim the stupid goverment.

Starting wars for nothing and pathetic stuff such as funding iraq to kill 1,000,000 iranians and then you say why are they so "hurt"

I am talking about the demos they put on about the drawing, not the war. So stop spouting off topic. You know exactly how muslims behave and that it was a ridiculous overreaction.

atieah2009

11-10-2009, 08:41 PM

I am talking about the demos they put on about the drawing, not the war. So stop spouting off topic. You know exactly how muslims behave and that it was a ridiculous overreaction.

So? after a anti-muslim protest 15 youths from the bnp killed a muslim man while he was with his grand- daughter, so they act correctly i see.

What do they get GBH.

Do any news papers report it? no.

Sign of the times, islams reputation is dieing but i will be with it forever.

InOne

11-10-2009, 08:43 PM

So? after a anti-muslim protest 15 youths from the bnp killed a muslim man while he was with his grand- daughter, so they act correctly i see.

What do they get GBH.

Do any news papers report it? no.

Sign of the times, islams reputation is dieing but i will be with it forever.

Muslims do themselves no favours. But as I can already tell you are very narrow minded. So no point really talking to you.

atieah2009

11-10-2009, 08:45 PM

No i dont i want to have a friendly convo, make your point i g2g now though so post later or message me your thoughts, thanks.

InOne

11-10-2009, 08:48 PM

Well I am saying that even what you call moderate Muslims get very angry at demos, create hate signs and cheer at hate speeches. Whenever they are called up on it they play the race card. As you did about my avatar.

Wildcat!

12-10-2009, 03:06 AM

What a bunch of idiots on this forum seriously. Most of you sound like 12 year old know nothing dumbasses, and some of you quite frankly are simply, and most likely blatant anti semit fukers.

InOne

12-10-2009, 10:09 AM

What a bunch of idiots on this forum seriously. Most of you sound like 12 year old know nothing dumbasses, and some of you quite frankly are simply, and most likely blatant anti semit fukers.

Learn to spell, then come back and call people idiots. Bye. :xyxwave:

Tom

12-10-2009, 10:20 AM

What a bunch of idiots on this forum seriously. Most of you sound like 12 year old know nothing dumbasses, and some of you quite frankly are simply, and most likely blatant anti semit fukers.

At least be a bit more constructive instead of coming in and hurling abuse. Why are loads of people idiots who sound like they know nothing?

Novo

12-10-2009, 05:59 PM

There are calls to ban two marches planned by a group of football fans called the Welsh Defence League.

They claim it is to protest against radical Islam and they are not racist but opponents accuse them of being a fascist organisation targeting Muslims.

Marches are planned in Swansea and Newport. Police say they are putting plans in place to avoid a repeat of violent clashes seen in Birmingham.

Football clubs across Wales have also condemned the group.

They were unhappy club logos were used to promote the cause.

Ninety people were arrested when protesters from the English and Welsh Defence League clashed with anti-fascist campaigners in Birmingham in September.

It is understood football fans from south Wales played their part in the demonstrations.

Now the Welsh Defence League is planning to take to the streets of Swansea and Newport in the coming weeks, an investigation by BBC Wales' Dragon's Eye programme has discovered.

They say they are against Muslim extremists and the introduction of Sharia law in Britain.

^

atieah2009

12-10-2009, 06:01 PM

No there against Islam full stop:D

InOne

12-10-2009, 07:49 PM

Well depends what you define as extremism...

arista

12-10-2009, 08:00 PM

If the Demo is a Legal
it should not be a Problem
unless it is Due to even more New Labour Cut Backs with the Police
Again.

andyman

13-10-2009, 12:40 AM

If the Demo is a Legal
it should not be a Problem
unless it is Due to even more New Labour Cut Backs with the Police
Again.If the Conservaties got into power we would see more cut backs.. It is to save money and the Police would be hit.

atieah2009

13-10-2009, 03:36 PM

Stephan Gash off topic but a simliar protester proved he is against the whole of islam not just extremists.

InOne

13-10-2009, 03:38 PM

Stephan Gash off topic but a simliar protester proved he is against the whole of islam not just extremists.

You ever read Ibn Warraq - Why I am not a Muslim?

atieah2009

13-10-2009, 03:38 PM

You ever read Ibn Warraq - Why I am not a Muslim?

No and i will be narrow here i do not care about certain people and wont read Ibn Warraqs crap.

InOne

13-10-2009, 03:40 PM

No and i will be narrow here i do not care about certain people and wont read Ibn Warraqs crap.

It would probably scare you lol

atieah2009

14-10-2009, 02:28 PM

Well i will read it then

InOne

14-10-2009, 02:29 PM

Well i will read it then

Good. But will you actually consider what he's saying?

atieah2009

14-10-2009, 02:31 PM

Good. But will you actually consider what he's saying?

No i am a strong believer of my religion and honestly would not change it, i am not a extremist i have done silly things like drink and bad stuff but Islam forgives these things, but i might consider it a tad bit.

InOne

14-10-2009, 02:33 PM

No i am a strong believer of my religion and honestly would not change it, i am not a extremist i have done silly things like drink and bad stuff but Islam forgives these things, but i might consider it a tad bit.

Blind faith is a very bad thing. Did you agree with the Fatwah on Rushdie?

atieah2009

14-10-2009, 02:34 PM

Blind faith? what are you trying to say? and fatwah on rushdie? link? and who the hell are they

InOne

14-10-2009, 02:36 PM

Blind faith? what are you trying to say? and fatwah on rushdie? link? and who the hell are they

Do you know what a Fatwah is? And he is the guy who wrote the Satanic Verses. And yes it's blind faith because it's not been proven yet you still believe.

atieah2009

14-10-2009, 02:38 PM

InOne

14-10-2009, 02:39 PM

I don't need proof, unfortunately we do not live in a world where a person can come down on the floor and say hey islam is right and go back up in the sky. My whole family are religious and i will follow my religion to my death:)

Well if you were brought up with it then you are always going to believe. Where are your family from?

atieah2009

14-10-2009, 02:43 PM

Iraq and Muslims and there is alot of converts too. i dont care i love my religion and just because my dad tells me its right doesnt mean i will belive i dream about my religion my father is a loving father and my mother so why should i not belive this religion for me.

InOne

14-10-2009, 02:46 PM

atieah2009

14-10-2009, 02:47 PM

If you born in Italy, you would have been raised Catholic and had the same love for that religion.

And the point is? what is wrong with catholics,jews,hindus,budhiists or w.e.

InOne

14-10-2009, 02:49 PM

And the point is? what is wrong with catholics,jews,hindus,budhiists or w.e.

So do you admit that no one Religion is the true one?

atieah2009

14-10-2009, 02:51 PM

Who knows although i belive muslim Shitte is the true way

atieah2009

14-10-2009, 02:58 PM

what a cold blooded person
No. But that's because I write for a living, [laughs] and I have no other source of income, and I naïvely believe that stuff that I create belongs to me, and that if you want it you might have to give me some cash. [...] My view is I do this for a living. The thing wouldn't exist if I didn't make it and so it belongs to me and don't steal it. You know. It's my stuff.
– Salman Rushdie

all he cares about is cash so he makes a mockery of islam to get fame pathetic.

InOne

14-10-2009, 10:57 PM

arista

15-10-2009, 08:32 AM

http://news.sky.com/sky-news/content/StaticFile/jpg/2009/Oct/Week2/15406009.jpg

"The fanatical group Islam4UK has announced
plans to hold a potentially incendiary
rally in London later this month."

That is Wrong and would never ever work
This is England Not Saudi.

http://www.dailyexpress.co.uk/posts/view/134080

Sign Of The Times.

InOne

15-10-2009, 11:09 AM

NettoSuperstar!

15-10-2009, 11:33 AM

As in the way they acted when the whole drawings thing came out. They riot and protest about that yet cheer about 9/11. Also they think Britain owes them something, they want it as an Islamic state. They blow everything out of proportion and then you get the Muslim leader coming out saying this is a minority, erm I don't think so.

Yes it is a minority that have those views and only ignorant people who have had no experience of mixing with other cultures would say such an ignorant an ill educated thing!

NettoSuperstar!

15-10-2009, 11:34 AM

All extreme acts and views are bad that includes racists stirring up trouble too

InOne

15-10-2009, 11:35 AM

Yes it is a minority that have those views and only ignorant people who have had no experience of mixing with other cultures would say such an ignorant an ill educated thing!

I have had alot of experience thank you. The amount of people that turn up at these ralleys and protests and chant along is clearly not a minority. I really don't know what you class as minority. I think we have given them the benefit of the doubt long enough.

NettoSuperstar!

15-10-2009, 11:35 AM

Well for now, Islam will continue to plauge the UK, as long as we let it.

Islam will continue to plague the UK!!?? Oh my god! You sound like a nazi!

arista

15-10-2009, 11:38 AM

Islam will continue to plague the UK!!?? Oh my god! You sound like a nazi!

No Netto
this is all True
thats why next week the BNP Nick Griffin is on BBC Question time.

Your New Labour voters failed the UK
and do not vote
thats why the BMP are in.

InOne

15-10-2009, 11:38 AM

Islam will continue to plague the UK!!?? Oh my god! You sound like a nazi!

Normally I don't mind Islam, it's just sometimes it does get too big for it's boot. Does not accept our culture, demands special treatment and apologies. Can you tell me a positive aspect of Islam? I'm not getting at all Muslims, I know most are ok. But the way they react to some thing must be something within the Religion or the leaders. Did you see Undercover Mosque?

NettoSuperstar!

15-10-2009, 11:39 AM

I have had alot of experience thank you. The amount of people that turn up at these ralley and protest and chant along is clearly not a minority. I really don't know what you class as minority. I think we have given them the benefir of the doubt long enough.

Yes they are. The majority of muslim people in Britain dont have extremist views, you clearly dont know what your talking about and your also stirring up hate against a group of people of whom the majority dont hold extreme views. Yes you might see a lot of muslims at extremist rallies but to think this is the majority of muslims in Britain bahahahahahahaha!!

InOne

15-10-2009, 11:40 AM

Yes they are. The majority of muslim people in Britain dont have extremist views, you clearly dont know what your talking about and your also stirring up hate against a group of people of whom the majority dont hold extreme views. Yes you might see a lot of muslims at extremist rallies but to think this is the majority of muslims in Britain bahahahahahahaha!!

Of course not, but it's not a minority is it? I see all you really want to do it attack me, and spout a load of nonsese.

NettoSuperstar!

15-10-2009, 11:41 AM

Normally I don't mind Islam, it's just sometimes it does get too big for it's boot. Does not accept our culture, demands special treatment and apologies. Can you tell me a positive aspect of Islam? I'm not getting at all Muslims, I know most are ok. But the way they react to some thing must be something within the Religion or the leaders. Did you see Undercover Mosque?

normally I dont mind Islam pahahaaha! How racist is that? You are lumping all muslims in together with those that hold extremist views. Its like saying I dont mind christians but I hate it when they protest against fags! The extremists are a minority

NettoSuperstar!

15-10-2009, 11:44 AM

Of course not, but it's not a minority is it? I see all you really want to do it attack me, and spout a load of nonsese.

Yes yes it is a minority

InOne

15-10-2009, 11:46 AM

normally I dont mind Islam pahahaaha! How racist is that? You are lumping all muslims in together with those that hold extremist views. Its like saying I dont mind christians but I hate it when they protest against fags! The extremists are a minority

What is with all this Pahahah stuff? You sound like an American teen. Who is lumping? You make a lot of assumptions don't you. All i'm saying is I don't think Islam deserves respect, or any special treatment. Is that racist? No. I like individuals, I don't like any religion, but at the moment, Islam is the one making a stir. Whether it be extremists or not this is true.

Fom

15-10-2009, 11:50 AM

Big muslim groups like this are bringing racism upon themselves. England has and always will be a mostly christian country, I don't see why they cannot grasp this... if you don't like it then there are countries that do everything the muslim way. Go there.

InOne

15-10-2009, 11:55 AM

People think because I have a picture of Morrissey wearing a shirt that says ENGLAND on it I must be a racist. It is a shame to see what our society has become.

NettoSuperstar!

15-10-2009, 11:55 AM

What is with all this Pahahah stuff? You sound like an American teen. Who is lumping? You make a lot of assumptions don't you. All i'm saying is I don't think Islam deserves respect, or any special treatment. Is that racist? No. I like individuals, I don't like any religion, but at the moment, Islam is the one making a stir. Whether it be extremists or not this is true.

Oh my god you dont even see how your choice of language is racist and offensive!! If you have a problem with extremist muslim views (like most people do including ordinary muslims) then dont just lump them in with all muslim views

InOne

15-10-2009, 11:57 AM

Oh my god you dont even see how your choice of language is racist and offensive!! If you have a problem with extremist muslim views (like most people do including ordinary muslims) then dont just lump them in with all muslim views

The only difference is that extremists act on them. There is no difference to what they believe, they all believe the quran is 100% literal. I don't think you know the meaning of Racism, is Islam a race? No.

NettoSuperstar!

15-10-2009, 12:01 PM

The only difference is that extremists act on them. There is no difference to what they believe, they all believe the quran is 100% literal. I don't think you know the meaning of Racism, is Islam a race? No.

Except Islamic fundametalist misinterpret and twist the words of the Quran much the same as fundamentalist christian groups do! You are spreading hatred towards a particular group of people when it is a minority that hold such extreme and twisted views

InOne

15-10-2009, 12:03 PM

Except Islamic fundametalist misinterpret and twist the words of the Quran much the same as fundamentalist christian groups do!

Your point is? Christians are not the issue here...

Do Christians blow themselves up on Buses and Trains? Fly themselves into towers?

NettoSuperstar!

15-10-2009, 12:04 PM

People think because I have a picture of Morrissey wearing a shirt that says ENGLAND on it I must be a racist. It is a shame to see what our society has become.

Its just that a lot of racists seem to be fiercely patriotic too, see everyone can make assumptions and stereotype...its human nature, which is why education is so important

InOne

15-10-2009, 12:06 PM

Its just that a lot of racists seem to be fiercely patriotic too, see everyone can make assumptions and stereotype...its human nature, which is why education is so important

Do you admit you made an assumption about me?

NettoSuperstar!

15-10-2009, 12:09 PM

Your point is? Christians are not the issue here...

Do Christians blow themselves up on Buses and Trains? Fly themselves into towers?

No but they protest against homosexuals, stand outside gay peoples funerals holding fags go to hell banners up, hurl abuse at women who've had abortions etc...and I dare say if the most powerful nations in the world were predominately muslim and predominantly Christian nations were being opressed and invavded it would be extremist Christians blowing themselves up on buses...its group behaviour at its worst Education and understanding is the only way forward not more protest and group hostility!

NettoSuperstar!

15-10-2009, 12:09 PM

Do you admit you made an assumption about me?

I didnt comment on your T shirt

InOne

15-10-2009, 12:10 PM

No but they protest against homosexuals, stand outside gay peoples funerals holding fags go to hell banners up, hurl abuse at women who've had abortions etc...and I dare say if the most powerful nations in the world were predominately muslim and predominantly Christian nations were being opressed and invavded it would be extremist Christians blowing themselves up on buses...its group behaviour at its worst Education and understanding is the only way forward not more protest and group hostility!

As I said I don't like any Religion. But in the UK it is particularly the Muslim extemists that do the damage, would you not say?

NettoSuperstar!

15-10-2009, 12:12 PM

As I said I don't like any Religion. But in the UK it is particularly the Muslim extemists that do the damage, would you not say?

No its extremist groups themselves (of any religion/race) that do all the damage in the world. No particular race or religion.

InOne

15-10-2009, 12:15 PM

No its extremist groups themselves (of any religion/race) that do all the damage in the world. No particular race or religion.

Yes but i'm talking about the UK and the extremist Muslims, not the rest...

NettoSuperstar!

15-10-2009, 12:18 PM

Yes but i'm talking about the UK and the extremist Muslims, not the rest...

Yes but what I object too is you making it out to be a muslim thing. "An Islamic plague!" Cant you see how damaging that kind of language is, its important to distinguish between ordianary muslims and those that hold extremist views, or we're just stirring up more hatred

InOne

15-10-2009, 12:21 PM

Yes but what I object too is you making it out to be a muslim thing. "An Islamic plague!" Cant you see how damaging that kind of language is, its important to distinguish between ordianary muslims and those that hold extremist views, or we're just stirring up more hatred

Yes I know, but it's not like ordinary Muslims make much effort to adapt to our society either. There is massive Muslims areas in big cities. The Sikhs and Hindu's did it, why can't they?

NettoSuperstar!

15-10-2009, 12:26 PM

Sikhs and Hindus probably feel less maginalised in the world as a whole I would imagine. Maginalised groups have a tendency to develop more extreme elements. You have to look at the history between Islam and the west to understand how some people have adopted such extreme stances. Similar thing happened with Jewish people throughout history...A more imformative programme was Islam and the West and the thing on C4 the other night comparing Islamic Terror groups with Jewish groups in the 19th century. Not just picking on muslims but trying to understand how things got to be like this and how in/out group mentality makes things worse

InOne

15-10-2009, 12:30 PM

Sikhs and Hindus probably feel less maginalised in the world as a whole I would imagine. Maginalised groups have a tendency to develop more extreme elements. Same thing happened with Jewish people throughout history...

If Muslims made more of an effort, and interacted with Society, then maybe society would understand. All society see's is the Ralleys and Riots.

NettoSuperstar!

15-10-2009, 12:34 PM

If Muslims made more of an effort, and interacted with Society, then maybe society would understand. All society see's is the Ralleys and Riots.

And if we made more of an effort to understand instead of making the situation worse....we're arent isloated in all of this

InOne

15-10-2009, 12:36 PM

NettoSuperstar!

15-10-2009, 12:36 PM

InOne

15-10-2009, 12:36 PM

And if we made more of an effort to understand instead of making the situation worse....we're arent isloated in all of this

Why should we? It is them who need to adapt to out Society...

NettoSuperstar!

15-10-2009, 12:37 PM

Why should we? It is them who need to adapt to out Society...

"our society" ohhh dear

InOne

15-10-2009, 12:38 PM

"our society" ohhh dear

Who's Society is it then? Maybe a better word would be our culture then, we do have one too you know!

NettoSuperstar!

15-10-2009, 12:40 PM

Who's Society is it then? Maybe a better word would be our culture then, we do have one too you know!

Yeh a shared one with all the people of the UK, culture and society develop...we all develop it together...some groups pull against it though trying to hold on to something that belongs in the past!

arista

15-10-2009, 12:40 PM

InOne

15-10-2009, 12:41 PM

Yeh a shared one with all the people of the UK, culture and society develop...we all develop it together...some groups pull against it though trying to hold on to something that belongs in the past!

They have not made an effort with that either. They have not adapted to our culture, they have imposed theirs...

NettoSuperstar!

15-10-2009, 12:42 PM

They have not made an effort with that either. They have not adapted to our culture, they have imposed theirs...

who? Who has imposed theirs? lol Do you feel imposed upon?

InOne

15-10-2009, 12:43 PM

who? Who has imposed theirs? lol Do you feel imposed upon?

Well the whole Sharia law thing. What do you think about that?

NettoSuperstar!

15-10-2009, 12:46 PM

Well the whole Sharia law thing. What do you think about that?

What about it? Is it law? no...some of it does make sense, they do a lot of work to help keep families together etc, some of it is **** especially the extreme twisted laws in Saudi...Will we be living under Sharia law in the future? No so why ****in waste time getting on your high horse about it? Is there things we can learn from it? maybe

InOne

15-10-2009, 12:47 PM

What about it? Is it law? no...some of it does make sense, they do a lot of work to help keep families together etc, some of it is **** especially the extreme twisted laws in Saudi...Will we be living under Sharia law in the future? No so why ****in waste time getting on your high horse about it? Is there things we can learn from it? maybe

I really don't think so. Why do we need it here, is British law not good enough for them?

NettoSuperstar!

15-10-2009, 12:53 PM

I really don't think so. Why do we need it here, is British law not good enough for them?

We dont need it here and its a minority of "extremists" that are calling for it. We are a secular society, and most Muslims are happy with law and religion being separate. Its not gonna happen, stop reading the Daily hate Mail and getting your knickers in a twist

InOne

15-10-2009, 12:54 PM

We dont need it here and its a minority of "extremists" that are calling for it. We are a secular society, and most Muslims are happy with law and religion being separate. Its not gonna happen, stop reading the Daily hate Mail and getting your knickers in a twist

Ahhh the old Daily Mail speech lol Well you live in your own little bubble, good luck with that. :thumbs:

NettoSuperstar!

15-10-2009, 12:55 PM

hehe Its the Mail readers that are living in their own black bubble of hate!

InOne

15-10-2009, 12:56 PM

hehe Its the Mail readers that are living in their own black bubble of hate!

So what are you actual views on Islam in Britian?

NettoSuperstar!

15-10-2009, 12:58 PM

So what are you actual views on Islam in Britian?

Islam or Islamic extremism?

InOne

15-10-2009, 12:58 PM

Islam or Islamic extremism?

Both...

NettoSuperstar!

15-10-2009, 01:02 PM

I think you have to look at the historical reasons for why there are problems between Islam and the West to help us understand how best to tackle the problem and hating on them will get us nowhere. I think most muslim people are just trying to get by like you

InOne

15-10-2009, 01:04 PM

NettoSuperstar!

15-10-2009, 01:06 PM

Oh I give up! No go smash their faces in then and all will be well in the world

InOne

15-10-2009, 01:06 PM

Oh I give up! No go smash their faces in then and all will be well in the world

Just a question lol Jeeeeeeez

NettoSuperstar!

15-10-2009, 01:10 PM

We dont have to feel sorry for anything, we didnt do anything, but If you want to solve a complex problem you have to look at the complex reasons and move from there, oh and you also have to acknowledge most muslim people dont want to blow up buses or want Sharia law in this country.

InOne

15-10-2009, 01:12 PM

Novo

15-10-2009, 02:40 PM

http://www.fmft.net/british%20muslim%20protest%20uk%20koran%20extremis ts.jpg

http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2006/08/muslim220806_228x266.jpg

http://bnp.org.uk/files/2009/02/islam-future1.jpg

Muslims need to stop this in the UK, also the community leaders need to talk with the youth and tell them not to react also...

They also call europe Eurabia....

Am prepared to go to marches and voice my Opinions if i see this going on in my own country

these are the people that don't belong here

InOne

15-10-2009, 02:44 PM

They also call europe Eurabia....

Am prepared to go to marches and voice my Opinions if i see this going on in my own country

these are the people that don't belong here

People seem to do nothing about these things incase it "offends" the Muslims.

Novo

15-10-2009, 02:48 PM

People seem to do nothing about these things incase it "offends" the Muslims.

I could not give two ***** if it offends them are not. they have offended us with there signs

i think people don't think it is that big of a problem but i'd give it about 30 more years and this country might have full sharia law. i would not be suprised if we had civil war in this country in the future because of them

Chantel

15-10-2009, 02:50 PM

People seem to do nothing about these things incase it "offends" the Muslims.

We can offend who the hell we like :thumbs:

Fom

15-10-2009, 02:52 PM

We can offend who the hell we like :thumbs:

I wish the government felt like this!

InOne

15-10-2009, 02:52 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J9BPH32tJKI&feature=related

InOne

15-10-2009, 02:58 PM

It is PC being taken too far. People fear the Muslims will act in violence over just about anything. Which is true really...

Chantel

15-10-2009, 03:01 PM

It is PC being taken too far. People fear the Muslims will act in violence over just about anything. Which is true really...
I've washed my hands with them, i wont be defending them anymore

InOne

15-10-2009, 03:05 PM

I've washed my hands with them, i wont be defending them anymore

What made you change your mind?

Chantel

15-10-2009, 03:08 PM

What made you change your mind?
A certain muslim family living on my street :nono:
Who are they to judge me!

InOne

15-10-2009, 03:09 PM

A certain muslim family living on my street :nono:
Who are they to judge me!

:o what did they say??

Chantel

15-10-2009, 03:12 PM

:o what did they say??
They didnt approve of what i was wearing and said i should be "taught a lesson" WTF! who do they think they are stupid people!

InOne

15-10-2009, 03:15 PM

They didnt approve of what i was wearing and said i should be "taught a lesson" WTF! who do they think they are stupid people!

Not good! I'm sure what you wear is just fine. I know plenty of Muslims girl who drop all that Islam stuff when they go off to uni and stuff. Half of their families have no idea. Did you say anything back?

arista

15-10-2009, 03:17 PM

Chantel

15-10-2009, 03:19 PM

Not good! I'm sure what you wear is just fine. I know plenty of Muslims girl who drop all that Islam stuff when they go off to uni and stuff. Half of their families have no idea. Did you say anything back?
I know, no i didnt bother, their not worth it

NettoSuperstar!

15-10-2009, 03:40 PM

I could not give two ***** if it offends them are not. they have offended us with there signs

i think people don't think it is that big of a problem but i'd give it about 30 more years and this country might have full sharia law. i would not be suprised if we had civil war in this country in the future because of them

Oh ffs as if! These people are an embarassment to muslim people and they want you to start a race hate war! Well done you've fell for it big time!! this country will never have Sharia law but there will be civil unrest becuase of masses of thickos who cant see whats going on here!

NettoSuperstar!

15-10-2009, 03:41 PM

They didnt approve of what i was wearing and said i should be "taught a lesson" WTF! who do they think they are stupid people!

Oh one family diss you so lets tar everyone with the same brush! Good god this forum gets more full of idiots by the day!

Chantel

15-10-2009, 03:42 PM

Oh one family diss you so lets tar everyone with the same brush! Good god this forum gets more full of idiots by the day!

Idiots? :joker:
Its not just one family, their all like that

InOne

15-10-2009, 03:43 PM

Netto, we just say it how it is, we show it how it is. If 100's of Muslims march through the streets shouting allah akbar, obviously people are going to get annoyed. They are not even extremists who do that. You are kidding yourself...

NettoSuperstar!

15-10-2009, 03:44 PM

Idiots? :joker:
Its not just one family, their all like that

Yes of course they are love! Bloody hell

Novo

15-10-2009, 03:44 PM

Oh ffs as if! These people are an embarassment to muslim people and they want you to start a race hate war! Well done you've fell for it big time!! this country will never have Sharia law but there will be civil unrest becuase of masses of thickos who cant see whats going on here!

I can see what's going on Protests near enough everyweek now people are getting sick of them even the BNP got a record number of votes!

NettoSuperstar!

15-10-2009, 03:45 PM

Ok guys start your race hate war! see where it gets yer

InOne

15-10-2009, 03:45 PM

Ok guys start your race hate war! see where it gets yer

Well Islam is not a race so, how is it a race hate war? Now who is the idiot...

NettoSuperstar!

15-10-2009, 03:46 PM

Ever heard of being pendantic...its arguably race hate mate, prejudice against groups, its all the same thing

Chantel

15-10-2009, 03:47 PM

Ok guys start your race hate war! see where it gets yer
Im not racist, i just think their sad

InOne

15-10-2009, 03:47 PM

Ever heard of being pendantic...its arguably race hate mate, prejudice against groups, its all the same thing

Not really. How is it prejudice if it has already happened?

NettoSuperstar!

15-10-2009, 03:48 PM

What? hahaha omg

InOne

15-10-2009, 03:49 PM

What? hahaha omg

Well? You didn't answer?

arista

15-10-2009, 04:19 PM

Ok guys start your race hate war! see where it gets yer

Netto
These Muslims today on the Front page of the Express
are making this War,
no one on this thread is.
FACT.

Enid

15-10-2009, 04:40 PM

They didnt approve of what i was wearing and said i should be "taught a lesson" WTF! who do they think they are stupid people!
This pisses me off.

As a Brit, you have the right to wear whatever the **** you like. It's not harming anybody. We're a much more relaxed nation. We don't feel the need to cover up all the time. If they're offended by our country's people, they can **** right out of it.

Wildcat!

15-10-2009, 04:41 PM

Oh one family diss you so lets tar everyone with the same brush! Good god this forum gets more full of idiots by the day!

Trust me Netto. Dont try to reason with these type of views. It only validates them. Most people atually do know not to lump something as huge as a religion together, because of a few disgraceful ones.
The thing is, its basically a couple of members who start these hateful threads, but eventually it does incite a few others to bring out their burried prejudices. The key is, its only a few.:blush:
SO let them hype each other up, have their own little hate thread. Its a free country after all. Brick wall, comes to mind.

Enid

15-10-2009, 04:42 PM

We're doing them a favour. They should not force their rules upon us. Our country, our rules.

InOne

15-10-2009, 04:43 PM

It is funny how all the people who are defending Islam seem to go quiet when I posted the pics of the hate signs. Oh and the vid of them attacking police. Islamic peace is an oxymoron.

arista

15-10-2009, 05:04 PM

I can see what's going on Protests near enough everyweek now people are getting sick of them even the BNP got a record number of votes!

Yes The BNP are now in Main Stream Politics
after a massive Million voters,
and also due to New Labour Voters staying at Home
in protest about One Eyed Scottish Brown wrecking everything.

andyman

15-10-2009, 05:15 PM

BS Arista! Toilet fingers is your name, you type more sh*t than you sh*t out from your ass.

InOne

15-10-2009, 05:16 PM

BS Arista! Toilet fingers is your name, you type more sh*t than you sh*t out from your ass.

What are your views on the matter andyman?

arista

15-10-2009, 05:19 PM

What are your views on the matter andyman?

Sadly that Poster is only good at giving Out Abuse
to other posters.

InOne

15-10-2009, 05:21 PM

Sadly that Poster is only good at giving Out Abuse
to other posters.

He seems to have a particular hatred for you for some reason.

atieah2009

15-10-2009, 05:23 PM

It is funny how all the people who are defending Islam seem to go quiet when I posted the pics of the hate signs. Oh and the vid of them attacking police. Islamic peace is an oxymoron.

Pathetic i just saw them and im not going quiet i do not give a **** about those pictures honestly. I do not feel the need to defend it seems like you have narrow mind and keep listening to what the papers tell you as you know the all love islam, LOL. arista i honestly did think the conservatives were better but thanks to you they have just lost a voter(S) as your ideas disgust me.

andyman

15-10-2009, 05:25 PM

My views on this... Nobody really gives a fk but racists will enjoy adding fuel to the fire.

Only a small number want Islamic law and it will never happen in our lifetime..

InOne

15-10-2009, 05:25 PM

Pathetic i just saw them and im not going quiet i do not give a **** about those pictures honestly. I do not feel the need to defend it seems like you have narrow mind and keep listening to what the papers tell you as you know the all love islam, LOL. arista i honestly did think the conservatives were better but thanks to you they have just lost a voter(S) as your ideas disgust me.

What about the video marching about London, abusing and attacking the police? Very mature and peaceful. You have do admit, when they act like that they do themselves no favours at all.

atieah2009

15-10-2009, 05:25 PM

Netto
These Muslims today on the Front page of the Express
are making this War,
no one on this thread is.
FACT.

"these muslims" thats right let it out arista.

arista

15-10-2009, 05:26 PM

He seems to have a particular hatred for you for some reason.

Yes he is a Bully.
Sad that he is on this Forum.

Wildcat!

15-10-2009, 05:27 PM

My views on this... Nobody really gives a fk but racists will enjoy adding fuel to the fire.

Only a small number want Islamic law and it will never happen in our lifetime..

Amen Andyman. And the key is, to leave them to it. I dont think its even worthy of acknowledging.

InOne

15-10-2009, 05:27 PM

My views on this... Nobody really gives a fk but racists will enjoy adding fuel to the fire.

Only a small number want Islamic law and it will never happen in our lifetime..

Yes, but it is the powerful Muslims who seem to speak for Islam in the UK. Powerful and radical ones...

atieah2009

15-10-2009, 05:27 PM

What about the video marching about London, abusing and attacking the police? Very mature and peaceful. You have do admit, when they act like that they do themselves no favours at all.

Have you been a protest in your life? you will understand then for example my friends were at a protest and because some idiots got out of control the police took a old man sheikh (not even a extremist one) and his children down the tunnel and beat the crap out of him infront of them.

arista

15-10-2009, 05:29 PM

"these muslims" thats right let it out arista.

Nothing to Let Out
Plenty to Debate

http://news.sky.com/sky-news/content/StaticFile/jpg/2009/Oct/Week2/15406009.jpg

InOne

15-10-2009, 05:30 PM

Have you been a protest in your life? you will understand then for example my friends were at a protest and because some idiots got out of control the police took a old man sheikh (not even a extremist one) and his children down the tunnel and beat the crap out of him infront of them.

Marching down the street shouting allah akbar, throwing cones at the police, insulting them and baiting them. If this is the Islamic youth of today, good god. The first generation Muslims are deeply ashamed of how the youth acts today.

atieah2009

15-10-2009, 05:30 PM

Arista im sorry to say this but the forum would actually a better place with out you here. Im sorry but you seem like a person who hates immigrants,religion,ISLAM<<, and on... sorry:( just my view

arista

15-10-2009, 05:31 PM

My views on this... Nobody really gives a fk but racists will enjoy adding fuel to the fire.

Only a small number want Islamic law and it will never happen in our lifetime..

Utter Rubbish
Andy of "your" Gang
is all over this thread.

Novo

15-10-2009, 05:32 PM

Bang On Right Arista

There not getting sharia law but they can have a boat to fk off home!

InOne

15-10-2009, 05:32 PM

Well people go on this assumption that Islam deserves respect and should not be questioned. Anyone with a mind who speaks out must be a "racist" and must hate Islam.

atieah2009

15-10-2009, 05:33 PM

Dude i would slit my wrists if you do not hate immigrants,islam and pakistanis honestly i got the gillete right next to me.

arista

15-10-2009, 05:33 PM

Arista im sorry to say this but the forum would actually a better place with out you here. Im sorry but you seem like a person who hates immigrants,religion,ISLAM<<, and on... sorry:( just my view

Fine thats your view.
I am with many posters on this thread
like Andy and InOne.

arista

15-10-2009, 05:34 PM

Bang On Right Arista

There not getting sharia law but they can have a boat to fk off home!

Yes , I say again,
This is England Not Saudi.

InOne

15-10-2009, 05:34 PM

If Muslims just got on with their lives and adpated to our culture then there would not be so much anger. Instead they moan, riot and protest.

atieah2009

15-10-2009, 05:35 PM

Many have adapted. some have not which is what you expect when there is sad radical sheikhs that fill so much **** in there heads. The world is not perfect inone.

InOne

15-10-2009, 05:37 PM

Many have adapted. some have not which is what you expect when there is sad radical sheikhs that fill so much **** in there heads. The world is not perfect inone.

I know, but it is a shame that it happens in the UK. They could escape from it here, yet we built Islamic centre after Islamic centre and mosque after mosque, and the ones that prech hate are the dangerous ones indeed.

atieah2009

15-10-2009, 05:37 PM

A partial reason people have not adapted is because Britain had to help America blow a crater in Avghanistan.

atieah2009

15-10-2009, 05:38 PM

Oh im sorry and places like U.A.E and Qatar pay you back by hiring British people giving them the best jobs best salaries and even opening western culture e.g. clubs,discos,concernts e.t.c.

InOne

15-10-2009, 05:45 PM

A partial reason people have not adapted is because Britain had to help America blow a crater in Avghanistan.

So they don't want to adapt yet they live here? Great.

atieah2009

15-10-2009, 05:47 PM

So they don't want to adapt yet they live here? Great.

Yea it's pathetic:( unfortunate really. some brits dont adapt to u.a.e. qatar but sunni muslims although i like them like to rebel alot when saddam went out of power they killed 700,000+ shia and he killed 6,000,000+ so yea thats life unfortunately and sadly but it wasnt mainly sunni it was more wahibism.

atieah2009

15-10-2009, 05:49 PM

Also a reason is they do not like other Muslim's who are beginning to do drink and all that so they blaim the goverment e.t.c. but yea pretty stupid

InOne

15-10-2009, 05:51 PM

Yea it's pathetic:( unfortunate really. some brits dont adapt to u.a.e. qatar but sunni muslims although i like them like to rebel alot when saddam went out of power they killed 700,000+ shia and he killed 6,000,000+ so yea thats life unfortunately and sadly but it wasnt mainly sunni it was more wahibism.

I know some brits get on well in Muslim countries and that. Although to say it is probably the more westernized ones. I quite a few Muslims do adapt here with businesses and that. But it is the ones who protest and stuff and make a bad name for themselves, and you get radicals speaking to the media for you saying they represent all Muslims which I know they don't.

arista

15-10-2009, 05:55 PM

I get on well with muslims
but not the ones that are on todays Front page.

InOne

15-10-2009, 05:56 PM

Most you find will be ok, but the ones who are not can be pretty dangerous. Sad but true.

30stone

15-10-2009, 09:09 PM

They should not force their rules upon us. Our country, our rules.

Simple, thats what i think.
If you don't like it... get out.
If you agree to our laws then feel free to stay in this country.

Vicky.

15-10-2009, 09:11 PM

Simple, thats what i think.
If you don't like it... get out.
If you agree to our laws then feel free to stay in this country.

Yup, totally agree with this.

InOne

15-10-2009, 09:11 PM

Simple, thats what i think.
If you don't like it... get out.
If you agree to our laws then feel free to stay in this country.

A shame some politicians are cowards and back down. They just want to keep the peace so make excuses for when this kind of thing happens.