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Shaun
06-12-2009, 07:49 PM
I know this is going to crush my dreams...because I adore The Cure sfm but I know they'll lose this. But please listen to the vids I post if you're unaware of them ;)

Arctic Monkeys:

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Brianstorm

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Mardy Bum

The Cure:

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Enid
06-12-2009, 07:49 PM
The Cure, of course. Grew up listening to them. :)

Arctic Monkeys are shite.

setanta
06-12-2009, 07:50 PM
Cure of course.

Stu
06-12-2009, 07:51 PM
The Cure.

They actually make albums that actually ... how do I put this ... sound different? Beautiful, lucid, visual songs. Not boring, straight up rawk and rawl for the lager generation.

King Gizzard
06-12-2009, 07:59 PM
Arctic Monkeys.

Damaris
06-12-2009, 08:01 PM
If Artic Monkeys win people have a series problem

Ramsay
06-12-2009, 08:06 PM
I know Arctic Monkeys get alot of hate on the forum
but their ****ing amazing

LemonJam
06-12-2009, 08:14 PM
The Cure - Amazing and influential band
Arctic Monkeys - Everyday indie overhyped to hell.

The Cure for sure.

Stu
06-12-2009, 08:17 PM
Everyday indie
Nice! That should be the genre section they are placed inside in record stores!

Rory
06-12-2009, 08:36 PM
I'm not going to vote in this one. I love both bands.

Shaun
06-12-2009, 08:38 PM
christ this is such a ****ing joke.

Stu
06-12-2009, 08:58 PM
Level! Woah, surprised.

C'mon the Cure!

King Gizzard
06-12-2009, 09:02 PM
Imo, Arctic monkeys kinda revolutionised Indie music in this era..then loads of bands followed suit.

They are fcking epic.

Stu
06-12-2009, 09:03 PM
Imo, Arctic monkeys kinda revolutionised Indie music in this era..then loads of bands followed suit.

They are fcking epic.
How so? They are just really, really popular. They didn't 'revolutionize' anything. Not that all bands have to, of course, but when people over hype them by saying that I just don't get it.

What are they doing new?

Shaun
06-12-2009, 09:08 PM
The Strokes, The Hives, The Libertines were all doing what the Arctic Monkeys were before them, and much better too.

Stu
06-12-2009, 09:13 PM
Let's not forget The Arctic Monkey's are some of the biggest culprits on the planet of using dynamic range compression techniques in the studio as a cheap way of blending all the sounds into one unimaginative, noisy, cluttered mess so it get's noticed more on the radio in the VOLUME WARS.

The result, take for instance 'I Bet You Look Good on the Dance Floor', is a bombardment of the most unsubtle, one-dimensional noise known to man.

King Gizzard
06-12-2009, 09:16 PM
I guess, but its just what I think!


I love how dirty rock they sound, if you get what I mean? And brilliant riffs

They would be better if they had done more albums like the first, as the 3rd album was generally ****

InOne
06-12-2009, 09:19 PM
I quite like Alex Turners lyrics, especially of the first album. Anything after that is hit and miss

arsenalforever
06-12-2009, 10:06 PM
two totally different bands

but the Arctic monkeys move me more
and too much of the cure stuff is miserable and too gothy

Stu
06-12-2009, 10:15 PM
two totally different bands

but the Arctic monkeys move me more
and too much of the cure stuff is miserable and too gothy
I hate when people say that, it's such a stereotype. The really melogoth Cure stuff was only in the early part of the bands career. In fact, the vast majority of the material has a positive spin to it. Just look at the the most commercial singles : Just A Day, Lovecats, Friday I'm In Love, Close To Me, Just Like Heaven, Pictures Of You ... hardly miserable!

I agree though it's a strange poll. Two completely different bands. Popularity contest I suppose.

Shaun
06-12-2009, 10:17 PM
*considers discounting courtney123's vote*

arsenalforever
06-12-2009, 10:18 PM
I hate when people say that, it's such a stereotype. The really melogoth Cure stuff was only in the early part of the bands career. In fact, the vast majority of the material has a positive spin to it. Just look at the the most commercial singles : Just A Day, Lovecats, Friday I'm In Love, Close To Me, Just Like Heaven, Pictures Of You ... hardly miserable!

I agree though it's a strange poll. Two completely different bands. Popularity contest I suppose.

i have the greatest hits which if you want the new order type of pop they did then yep they have done sunny pop stuff but a vast majority of their sound is really downbeat.

i would have put New order or D. Mode up agaisn't them

Stu
06-12-2009, 10:22 PM
i have the greatest hits which if you want the new order type of pop they did then yep they have done sunny pop stuff but a vast majority of their sound is really downbeat.

i would have put New order or D. Mode up agaisn't them
I agree the music sounds downbeat but then the Cure did always have a fetish for low brow plodding baselines :hugesmile:. The lyrical content is a different story though.

arsenalforever
06-12-2009, 10:25 PM
I agree the music sounds downbeat but then the Cure did always have a fetish for low brow plodding baselines :hugesmile:. The lyrical content is a different story though.

i love the Cure's pop stuff you can't knock it and probably would have been even bigger if they stuck to that sound but i admire them for not taking it easy on their fans :joker:

Smith is a great lyric writer

Stu
06-12-2009, 10:30 PM
i love the Cure's pop stuff you can't knock it and probably would have been even bigger if they stuck to that sound but i admire them for not taking it easy on their fans :joker:

Smith is a great lyric writer
True stuff man they could have been huge had they gone with the mainstream but they do what they want and the hardcore fans stick by it! :blush:

arsenalforever
06-12-2009, 10:49 PM
True stuff man they could have been huge had they gone with the mainstream but they do what they want and the hardcore fans stick by it! :blush:

which the AM's have done with their third album which has split the fans down the middle

the best bands do this

I remeber Kid a by Radiohead was hated but now everyone loves it

InOne
06-12-2009, 10:53 PM
To be fair Arctic Monkeys got the record for the fastest selling debut album in UK chart history. Not alot of 'indie' bands could say that around that time. Plus the first album was more rock.

Stu
06-12-2009, 10:54 PM
To be fair Arctic Monkeys got the record for the fastest selling debut album in UK chart history. Not alot of 'indie' bands could say that around that time. Plus the first album was more rock.
Partly thanks to NME jumping onto them like a dog in head and overhyping the crap out of them.

InOne
06-12-2009, 10:56 PM
Partly thanks to NME jumping onto them like a dog in head and overhyping the crap out of them.

Also their performances at festivals before they made it big.

arsenalforever
06-12-2009, 10:57 PM
Partly thanks to NME jumping onto them like a dog in head and overhyping the crap out of them.

actually they were huge before that as the first band who became big on myspace

arsenalforever
06-12-2009, 10:58 PM
Also their performances at festivals before they made it big.

plus thanks to the Am Nme start selling big again since the britpop years.FAct

Iceman
06-12-2009, 10:59 PM
The result, take for instance 'I Bet You Look Good on the Dance Floor', is a bombardment of the most unsubtle, one-dimensional noise known to man.

Stu please!

Did you not think I havent read that quote before??

If your gonna say soemthing at least say who said it man.....

InOne
06-12-2009, 11:00 PM
Stu please!

Did you not think I havent read that quote before??

If your gonna say soemthing at least say who said it man.....

Who said it?

Iceman
06-12-2009, 11:01 PM
Former Depeche Mode keyboardist Alan Wilder, describing the current state of the music industry in an article for Side-Line magazine, used the Arctic Monkeys as an example in his criticism of the use of dynamic range compression in modern recording techniques, calling the song "I Bet You Look Good on the Dancefloor", "a bombardment of the most unsubtle, one-dimensional noise."

Stu
06-12-2009, 11:04 PM
Stu please!

Did you not think I havent read that quote before??

If your gonna say soemthing at least say who said it man.....
Alan Wilder, Depeche Mode? He did an article awhile back. I find it to be a great phrase. So I used it. I don't see the big deal. It's hardly as if I robbed a bank. I know where I got it from. And it wasn't Wikipedia.

Also ArsenalForever I know AM's were big before NME jumped onto them but they did help propel them.

Christ, I'm sorry I ever went against the almighty Monkeys.

InOne
06-12-2009, 11:07 PM
Well I think we have the two biggest AM's fans in Ireland on this forum lol

Iceman
06-12-2009, 11:08 PM
Im just saying you tried to make that sound like it was your opinion that you came up with. Also I already said I do think they were over hyped at the beginning but I think it was with good reason......3 number 1 albums in 3 years.....you can clearly see theyve grown as a band and as for this "bombardment of one dimensional music" i'd say have a listen to humbug....it split fans completely.......nothing like the first 2 albums

crazy fan rant over/

Stu
06-12-2009, 11:10 PM
Im just saying you tried to make that sound like it was your opinion that you came up with.
Well ... it was. I thought the Arctic Monkey's were overrated and used cheap studio techniques [Black Eyed Peas are also huge culprits of it] long before Alan Wilder tied me to a chair and hypnotized me into thinking it :conf:.

I just paraphrased the guy because he put it better than I ever could. It's pointless saying 'as Alan Wilder once said' because most people on this forum have no idea who he is :blush:.

Iceman
06-12-2009, 11:12 PM
Well ... it was. I thought the Arctic Monkey's were overrated and used cheap studio techniques [Black Eyed Peas are also huge culprits of it] long before Alan Wilder tied me to a chair and hypnotized me into thinking it :conf:.

I just paraphrased the guy because he put it better than I ever could. It's pointless saying 'as Alan Wilder once said' because most people on this forum have no idea who he is :blush:.

yeah true that, they'd proably be thinking of the guy from National Lampoons....:joker::joker:

arsenalforever
06-12-2009, 11:13 PM
Well I think we have the two biggest AM's fans in Ireland on this forum lol

i love 'em not going to hide the fact
their music just blows me away :)

Iceman
06-12-2009, 11:14 PM
I think they are an amazing band with a great lyricist......some songs are just pure genius.......505, Balaclava, RiotVan, The Bad Thing

arsenalforever
06-12-2009, 11:14 PM
plus the mode had to wait years to become huge while the Am it took one single:dance:

Stu
06-12-2009, 11:15 PM
yeah true that, they'd proably be thinking of the guy from National Lampoons....:joker::joker:
:joker:

That reminds me to watch those flicks again man. It's a bit of a Christmas tradition for me.

plus the mode had to wait years to become huge while the Am it took one single:dance:
That's not strictly true. They were big from the start but quickly changed when Vince Clarke left to form Yazoo after Speak & Spell. Whenever they felt they were getting to poppy they backlashed against that.

Shaun
06-12-2009, 11:18 PM
i just think it's too soon to say AM are the best band of all time :(

because they really aren't. and the cure's longevity / influence outshines them.

Iceman
06-12-2009, 11:20 PM
i just think it's too soon to say AM are the best band of all time :(

because they really aren't. and the cure's longevity / influence outshines them.

I never got into the cure at all so im completely biased, plus the fact that AM are on of my fav's....:spin:

Stu
06-12-2009, 11:20 PM
And as far as frontmen's hairdos go, The Cure > The Arctic Monkey's.

Coz' we all know that's what really matters :laugh2:.

Backcombing :lovedup:

arsenalforever
06-12-2009, 11:26 PM
i just think it's too soon to say AM are the best band of all time :(

because they really aren't. and the cure's longevity / influence outshines them.

never said they were:joker: but they are going in the right direction of becoming great. I agree the cure are out since 1978 of course they have more influence but the monkeys have sold out tours and broke records so early in their career shouldn't be looked down upon

Shaun
08-12-2009, 07:39 PM
:o The Cure win.

Stu
08-12-2009, 07:49 PM
Get in!

Novo
08-12-2009, 07:51 PM
I think Yobo wants to vote

Shaun
08-12-2009, 07:59 PM
I think FirewireSister and Paris_Hilton would have something to say about that.

Stu
08-12-2009, 08:00 PM
FirewireSister
You leave my daughter out of this.