OK as a Christian I have tosay what Stephen does is NOT CHRISTIANITY

[kellybsblover]

He uses religion as part of his act, but this is not what Christianity should be like!

[BlackOrWhite]

Christianity isn't the same all over the world. People have different ways of expressing their beliefs and religion.

[Stu]

I don't think it's an act. He is genuinly ****ed up. You know what's even more messed up, FYI? The Bible supports what he says - saying it's better to die and join God in heaven rather than renounce him.

Technically, he is being a marvellous Christian, sticking to The Bible. And showing it up for the fallacy it is to us rational thinking people.

[Gavin]

Stephen is entitled to air his views in his own way, and just because it's different to how you would approach things, doesn't mean it's not Christianity.

It IS Christianity. He's a true Christian, and teaching others about the faith. He's a good man.

[Clockers]

Stephen is born again Christian, and as i stated in a previous thread; those people are *****ed up. I am Agnostic myself and I come across born again people in Islam and they no different to Stephen in attitude. Even if the religion is one of Zen like Buddhism, those recently converted act like they are one with the water and the antelope etc.

[Clockers]

I want Stephen to stay in the house by the way, he makes great TV. Makes me cringe like a mother *****er.

[letmein]

Stephen is very much the "American" Christian, or the "American Conservative". He's 1 in a zillion in the US.

[kellybsblover]

Matthew 6:5-15 (New International Version)

Prayer
5"And when you pray, do not be like the hypocrites, for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and on the street corners to be seen by men. I tell you the truth, they have received their reward in full. 6But when you pray, go into your room, close the door and pray to your Father, who is unseen. Then your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you. 7And when you pray, do not keep on babbling like pagans, for they think they will be heard because of their many words. 8Do not be like them, for your Father knows what you need before you ask him.

[kellybsblover]

I'm a Christian and where not all like that, and none of the Christians I associate with are like that. I've lived in America for the last 15 years.

[Stu]

Stephen is entitled to air his views in his own way, and just because it's different to how you would approach things, doesn't mean it's not Christianity.

It IS Christianity. He's a true Christian, and teaching others about the faith. He's a good man.
No good man would ever, ever willingly let his daughter get shot. It's that simple.

[BlackOrWhite]

I'm a Christian and where not all like that, and none of the Christians I associate with are like that. I've lived in America for the last 15 years.

That still doesn't mean that Stephen isn't a christian. I'm assuming the Christians you 'associate' with live in the same area and all go to the same church. A small group that you know doesn't represent the millions of Christians across America.

[chuff me dizzy]

I don't think it's an act. He is genuinly ****ed up. You know what's even more ****ed up, FYI? The Bible supports what he says - saying it's better to die and join God in heaven rather than renounce him.

Technically, he is being a marvellous Christian, sticking to The Bible. And showing it up for the fallacy it is to us rational thinking people.

EXACTLY !! putting Jesu before his family ? the sickest thing I have ever heard ,Im SOOOOO glad to be an atheist ,99% of the worlds trouble stems from religion

[chuff me dizzy]

Stephen is entitled to air his views in his own way, and just because it's different to how you would approach things, doesn't mean it's not Christianity.

It IS Christianity. He's a true Christian, and teaching others about the faith. He's a good man.

If hes a "true christian"im glad Im an atheist

[CapShar]

I don't think it's an act. He is genuinly ****ed up.

You're right, he is. The other Baldwins must love him because he takes their troubles out of the spotlight and makes their messed up lives actually look good in comparisson.

What gets really funny is when he starts preaching about somebody doing something immoral but then he'll go and do the exact same thing or worse himself. He did that quite a bit last year on the celebrity apprentice and I'm sure it'll only be a matter of time before he does it on CBB.

[Clockers]

I am not an Athiest, I am an Agnostic.

[chuff me dizzy]

FFS ,,,Hes got his Bible out again

[Jessica.]

He uses religion as part of his act, but this is not what Christianity should be like!

I agree!

I'm roman catholic but I don't go around preaching to everyone!

[arista]

Stephen is entitled to air his views in his own way, and just because it's different to how you would approach things, doesn't mean it's not Christianity.

It IS Christianity. He's a true Christian, and teaching others about the faith. He's a good man.


He is a Bible Freak Nutter

[kellybsblover]

That still doesn't mean that Stephen isn't a christian. I'm assuming the Christians you 'associate' with live in the same area and all go to the same church. A small group that you know doesn't represent the millions of Christians across America.

LOL Your so wrong, I live in Miami where you have the biggest mix of people, and none of my friends go to my church.

[Stu]

I am not an Athiest, I am an Agnostic.
http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f130/Aaladorn/agnostic1.jpg

[Jessica.]

He is a Bible Freak Nutter

agree :D

[MusicMan]

No good man would ever, ever willingly let his daughter get shot. It's that simple.

So so right, I was shocked to hear him say that and then call himself a loving father

[aoq2008]

He uses religion as part of his act, but this is not what Christianity should be like!

Its american extremist radio taklshow religion, he is a nutcase.

[rusticgal]

You have to be level headed here... This is where religion is taken to the extreme when you tell your children to allow youself to die and uphold beliifs in something they probably dont quite understand... defies belief!!!

[Chuckyegg]

He uses religion as part of his act, but this is not what Christianity should be like!


Should is such a useless word.

[Alf]

Christianity isn't the same all over the world. People have different ways of expressing their beliefs and religion.
is the correct answer

[Marc]

The guy is messed up from his previous life. That'll explain why he's a bit crazy

[RCW1945]

The reason his life pattern is repeated for many individuals is because they have highly addictive personalities. The only way to resist the addiction to alcohol and/or serious drugs is to transfer the addiction to an alternative. Both addictions involve a particular life style within a circle of a certain type of fellow sufferers and to be controlled by a dealer/priest who supplies the necessary materials. Both life-styles involve strict routines which take up a large part of each day and there is a stong desire to recruit new members into the group.

[letmein]

The reason his life pattern is repeated for many individuals is because they have highly addictive personalities. The only way to resist the addiction to alcohol and/or serious drugs is to transfer the addiction to an alternative. Both addictions involve a particular life style within a circle of a certain type of fellow sufferers and to be controlled by a dealer/priest who supplies the necessary materials. Both life-styles involve strict routines which take up a large part of each day and there is a stong desire to recruit new members into the group.

That's a good way of putting it.

[letmein]

I'm a Christian and where not all like that, and none of the Christians I associate with are like that. I've lived in America for the last 15 years.

Just because you don't associate with them, doesn't mean that they don't exist. They exist in huge numbers, especially the evangelical nut cases in the South.

[King Gizzard]

Yeah his representation is totally false

I'm from a christian family and i am one myself although not strict

We don't go prancing around talking to everyone about it

Hate when people just label us all into one pigeon whole

[Alf]

Hate when people just label us all into one pigeon whole
i guess the majority of muslims feel the same

[Princess]

Yeah his representation is totally false

I'm from a christian family and i am one myself although not strict

We don't go prancing around talking to everyone about it

Hate when people just label us all into one pigeon whole

I don't think they are really though. Well at least I hope not. I'm not religious in the slightest,but I don't mind people being religious at all if they don't go and shove it in people's faces. And Stephen is shoving it in everyone's face.

edit;Oh and also he's mad,I doubt most people think every Christian is like that.

[InOne]

Christianity teaches people to spread the word

[King Gizzard]

i guess the majority of muslims feel the same

yes exactly i have a muslim mate whos very angry/sad at the moment withall this islam4uk crap, he hates that group much more than we do, because its just pigeon holing every muslim into the extremist muslim view at the moment

[King Gizzard]

I think if Stephen wasnt mentally ill, he wouldnt bother with Christianity, he just uses it as something to do and believe in keep his mind occupied instead of going back to the drugs and basically ruining his life

[Stacey.]

:bored: This guy is a good faithful christian.

[MojoNixon]

Obama is supporting Black Theology (and his pastor Jeremiah Wright), is that right religion?

[ElProximo]

Obama is supporting Black Theology (and his pastor Jeremiah Wright), is that right religion?

In fairness to Obama (and Im no fan) but he never promoted or condoned any of that guys teachings - although he stayed attending for many years,
but,
when it was caught out - Obama immediately disavowed ever supporting any of the controversial opinions and made it clear he disagreed with the controversial racist stuff in Pastor Kooks teachings.

Do I believe Obama?
Absolutely yes.
I think he is as 'secular' as it gets and was attending that Church for purely social reasons and probably spent most of the weekly sermons thinking about having a smoke and what influential people were in attendance.

Despite being born and raised a Muslim and later attending Church - I don't think Obama is interested in any theology.
Not 'atheist' but about as close to a 'pure agnostic' as you can ask for.

[bbbri]

Lets be realistic here – there is only on god …. Big Brother!!!

[Stu]

Christianity teaches people to spread the word
Exactly. As much disgust as I have for Stephen for what he is doing, he is actually being a pretty damn good Christian. That's why it bugs me when the Diet Christians on the forums say 'that's disgusting and I would never do that'. That's because your not really Christian. You have never properly read it's central, foundational text. You have no idea what you are believing in. You can't have it both ways and mould the religion to suit your own needs. Either brush up on your whacky prophecies or join the rest of us sane people in non-religious land.

[RealityTVisGreat]

EXACTLY !! putting Jesu before his family ? the sickest thing I have ever heard ,Im SOOOOO glad to be an atheist ,99% of the worlds trouble stems from religion

No, the trouble stems from peoples interpretation of religion, to attack other people, not the religion itself!

[Stu]

No, the trouble stems from peoples interpretation of religion, to attack other people, not the religion itself!
Religion is interpretation though. Created by man, distributed by other men, changed by other men, and then finnaly interpreted by the reader. All it is and ever will be is dictated by human interpretation. Interpretation which destroy's it's own subject of interpretation, considering ideally there should be no room for interpretation as it's meant to be the infallible word of god. Ultimately if The Bible were not there in the first place, people wouldn't even have the chance to interpret it for the worst, so I think it's fair to say that the trouble stems from 'religion' in general.

[RealityTVisGreat]

Matthew 6:5-15 (New International Version)

Prayer
5"And when you pray, do not be like the hypocrites, for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and on the street corners to be seen by men. I tell you the truth, they have received their reward in full. 6But when you pray, go into your room, close the door and pray to your Father, who is unseen. Then your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you. 7And when you pray, do not keep on babbling like pagans, for they think they will be heard because of their many words. 8Do not be like them, for your Father knows what you need before you ask him.

Thank you and good night!!!
Oh I might not be able to attend the next sermon, I'm watching paint dry that night!!!

[BBUK4LYFE]

It IS Christianity. He's a true Christian, and teaching others about the faith. He's a good man.

This.

[BBUK4LYFE]

That still doesn't mean that Stephen isn't a christian. I'm assuming the Christians you 'associate' with live in the same area and all go to the same church. A small group that you know doesn't represent the millions of Christians across America.

Truth.

[BBUK4LYFE]

You have to be level headed here... This is where religion is taken to the extreme when you tell your children to allow youself to die and uphold beliifs in something they probably dont quite understand... defies belief!!!

The thing is if you deny Christ you go straight to hell. Thats a Christian belief.

The thing that Baldwin said about the shooter, that was out of the bible. He just revised it for the other house guest to comprehend what he was saying.

[BBUK4LYFE]

:bored: This guy is a good faithful christian.

Yeah, you can tell that he is one. No doubt about that.

[Jords]

Stephen is just too much! But he is providing tension which in a way is good, I just find it boring hearing him go on and on.

[Stu]

The thing is if you deny Christ you go straight to hell. Thats a Christian belief.

The thing that Baldwin said about the shooter, that was out of the bible. He just revised it for the other house guest to comprehend what he was saying.
Believe in God's infinite love or be sent to hell to suffer eternal damnation. What a wonderful belief system!

[moveupandon]

He uses religion as part of his act, but this is not what Christianity should be like!

Organised Religion is BS!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MeSSwKffj9o

[Stu]

http://rationalwiki.com/wiki/Main_Page

Or if you fancy a laugh ...

http://www.conservapedia.com/Main_Page

[Prole]

Matthew 6:5-15 (New International Version)

Prayer
5"And when you pray, do not be like the hypocrites, for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and on the street corners to be seen by men. I tell you the truth, they have received their reward in full. 6But when you pray, go into your room, close the door and pray to your Father, who is unseen. Then your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you. 7And when you pray, do not keep on babbling like pagans, for they think they will be heard because of their many words. 8Do not be like them, for your Father knows what you need before you ask him.


Thanks for that. I think this passage must have been left out of Steven's version of the bible. Everyone has a right to follow whichever religion they choose, but he's more likely to turn people away from what he's saying than make them interested in finding out more.

[NettoSuperstar!]

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f130/Aaladorn/agnostic1.jpg

love that poster