John Terry - what a lousy role model

[Angus]

Why is he still Captain of England? Not only is he a thug, but he can't keep it in his pants and I feel sorry for his wife and kids. It's an absolute disgrace he hasn't been stripped of the captaincy immediately - who would want their sons to look up to such a clay idol?

[Novo]

Team terry!

[setanta]

There's a part of me that thinks he shouldn't even be in the squad for the World Cup now. He was riding his teammates girlfriend!!

[Tom]

Let him stick it up who he wants, its none of our business. What ever affairs ordinary people have never affects their job, so why should his job be affected just because he's famous?

[setanta]

Let him stick it up who he wants, its none of our business. What ever affairs ordinary people have never affects their job, so why should his job be affected just because he's famous?

Well when a married man and boss of a company f3cks his co-workers girlfriend then yes, it does have an effect on his job. Plus, Terry is a high profile footballer, being paid millions of pounds and he's actually tried so hard to portray himself as this clean cut, family man. Now it's in tatters and he has only himself to blame. You must not forget that he's a role model to so many young kids out there too.

[Novo]

We need lionheart terry to be our rock at the back for the world cup

Everyone will forgive him when he heads home a 90th minute corner against brazil

[Tom]

Well when a married man and boss of a company f3cks his co-workers girlfriend then yes, it does have an effect on his job. Plus, Terry is a high profile footballer, being paid millions of pounds and he's actually tried so hard to portray himself as this clean cut, family man. Now it's in tatters and he has only himself to blame. You must not forget that he's a role model to so many young kids out there too.

He isn't a professional family man though, he's a professional footballer.

[Angus]

[QUOTE=Tom;2943599]Let him stick it up who he wants, its none of our business. What ever affairs ordinary people have never affects their job, so why should his job be affected just because he's famous?[/QU


If you really can't see why his actions are reprehensible in the particular profession he is in, then you can't hold the captaincy of England in very high regard. All those kids out there who love football, looking up to him, and thinking that is the way to behave? There was a time when our sportsmen and women were heroes who inspired people, now they're just selfish, self serving arrogant tw*ts with no self respect or dignity. Footballers like the over-rated Terry are a major part of what is wrong with the sport.

[setanta]

[QUOTE=Tom;2943599]Let him stick it up who he wants, its none of our business. What ever affairs ordinary people have never affects their job, so why should his job be affected just because he's famous?[/QU


If you really can't see why his actions are reprehensible in the particular profession he is in, then you can't hold the captaincy of England in very high regard. All those kids out there who love football, looking up to him, and thinking that is the way to behave? There was a time when our sportsmen and women were heroes who inspired people, now they're just selfish, self serving arrogant tw*ts with no self respect or dignity. Footballers like the over-rated Terry are a major part of what is wrong with the sport.

Yep, that's it. I'd think about dropping him entirely to be honest with you.

[arista]

http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/forums/showthread.php?t=130040&page=2

This is the Thread.

And there is another one on the Sports section.


Which other section is Yet Another
Terry thread going to be on?

[Angus]

We need lionheart terry to be our rock at the back for the world cup

Everyone will forgive him when he heads home a 90th minute corner against brazil

Don't hold your breath. England promise much but in over forty years have not managed to deliver. I don't see it happening again in my lifetime with this load of over-paid, over-rated chavs who never quite live up to the hype.

[Novo]

Don't hold your breath. England promise much but in over forty years have not managed to deliver. I don't see it happening again in my lifetime with this load of over-paid, over-rated chavs who never quite live up to the hype.

Where are you from?

[Angus]

http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/forums/showthread.php?t=130040&page=2

This is the Thread.

And there is another one on the Sports section.


Which other section is Yet Another
Terry thread going to be on?

Well clearly no-one else considers it a serious debate (which I do), and that just goes to show WHY this country is going down the pan.

[Angus]

Where are you from?

Bromley, Kent:hugesmile: Born and Bred in London, of English parents going back eleven generations - and your point is????

[Tom]

I might be wrong - but weren't you one of those condeming Katia and calling her a slut etc. But it's ok for him - umm!

She is famous for sleeping with someone. John isn't. In the BB house Katia was conforming to why she is famous. For John, its a private matter because thats not how he gained celebrity status.

[Angus]

She is famous for sleeping with someone. John isn't. In the BB house Katia was conforming to why she is famous. For John, its a private matter because thats not how he gained celebrity status.

What sort of twisted logic is that FFS?:shocked:

[Tom]

What sort of twisted logic is that FFS?:shocked:

If John was a personal trainer or something and slept with the neighbour would he be allover the papers?

Katia is completely different. She is famous because she shagged Ronnie Wood and then sold her story to the highest bidder. Then when she wanted to shed the 'slut' image, she went and did the exact same thing to Jonas, and again sold her stories. Its completely different and not daft logic, the same applies to anyone who has done the same whether male or female.

[red]

******* the woldcup how about thinking about the wife and kids and what they are going through right now...i hope fabio dumps him from the squad

[Tom4784]

I don't care really, do what's best for the England team, not for the fickle public that'll only complain when England loses worse then before because the team's out of whack. He's a talented enough footballer to get the captain position so why shoot ourselves in the foot?

[Novo]

It will solve everything dropping him from the squad wont it?

wake up.

He is our best center back we need him to be playing for us in the world cup,

[Alf]

wayne bridge is s**t anyway, we can replace him (just like his missus did)
we cant replace the skipper
i'd rather us win the world cup, than feed the ego's of the press and the nosey b*stards, who's buisiness it's none of.

[arista]

Well clearly no-one else considers it a serious debate (which I do), and that just goes to show WHY this country is going down the pan.


The Country is Fuuucccked due to New Labour.

Terry stuck it up her (vanessa)
he has loads of money
and a Wife that wants to dump him.

[arista]

I don't care really, do what's best for the England team, not for the fickle public that'll only complain when England loses worse then before because the team's out of whack. He's a talented enough footballer to get the captain position so why shoot ourselves in the foot?


It is Not Fickle

This is Morals.

It was even on the Daily Politics today.

[arista]

It will solve everything dropping him from the squad wont it?

wake up.

He is our best center back we need him to be playing for us in the world cup,


You need to wake Up.
This is a leader of the English team
and it is now a Moral Question.

Watch Ch4 News
SkyNews
and later Newsnight.

Andy Wake Up Lad.

[Jackie]

Well i hope she doesn't take him back this time he had an affair before and said he wouldn't cheat again man who cheat rarly stop cheating.

[Novo]

You need to wake Up.
This is a leader of the English team
and it is now a Moral Question.

Watch Ch4 News
SkyNews
and later Newsnight.

Andy Wake Up Lad.

http://englishfootballpost.com/news/wp-content/uploads/2008/01/1c8d2adf4aee28155343c13258f0cdac.jpg

Capello - " Arista you Quiet now i bring terry to world cup and he captain england to glory now go **** yourself "

[InOne]

You don't have to be a role model to be a footballer these days, you just have to get the ball in the back of the ****ing net. People are going soft.

[Tom]

I find that logic incredible! It simply isn't logical or fair to condemn one whilst condoning the other. Both are to blame and both should face the consequences.

I'm sure you and the WI wouldn't find the logic incredible if it was a female celeb in Johns place and a celebrity man slag in Katia's (Jack Tweed, Callum Best etc)

[arista]

Capello - " Arista you Quiet now i bring terry to world cup and he captain england to glory now go **** yourself "

Yes I was Busy away from My Computers and TV's.

Back Now.

It was just Debated Live on Sky News.

It is a Moral Issue,
your Morals are hidden on here.

He Stuck it Right Up Her
Vanessa and his Wife.

[arista]

You don't have to be a role model to be a footballer these days, you just have to get the ball in the back of the ****ing net. People are going soft.


InOne he is the English Leader of Football.


If it was not a Issue
it would not be on Every Show possible.

The Daily Politics debated his morals.

His Wife needs to Dump him
then he is Free and can go back to having it away with
the Women that gets him hot , like Hot Vanessa.
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2010/02/01/article-1247578-081801E0000005DC-269_306x888.jpg
Vanessa Terrys Lover.

[Shasown]

So much for being innocent till proven guilty. It was in the papers so it must be true. It seems strange the UK press always bring this sort of dirt out shortly before an important competition.

Didnt the delightful Mr Beckham get accused of allowing his nanny to play with his goldenballs at one point in time.

Like the way everyone has an opinion on this without knowing all the facts. May I recommend a little patience before launching vitriolic attacks at John and Vanessa till one or both admit the stories are true.

It used to be called Lynching didnt it?

[InOne]

I don't give a flying **** who is ****ing who in the footballing world, this this has probs messed up Englands chances, when it happened to Beckham he totally lost his confidence. Don't get your hopes up for another 66' this year guys.

[Novo]

InOne he is the English Leader of Football.


If it was not a Issue
it would not be on Every Show possible.

The Daily Politics debated his morals.

His Wife needs to Dump him
then he is Free and can go back to having it away with
the Women that gets him hot , like Hot Vanessa.
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2010/02/01/article-1247578-081801E0000005DC-269_306x888.jpg
Vanessa Terrys Lover.

Frank is next in line for a piece of her

She looks filthy as well

[NettoSuperstar!]

He should be stripped of his captaincy, I dont want the captain of the England team to be a weak lowlife cheating rat...nah needs a stronger character than that...the mans got children!

[NettoSuperstar!]

So much for being innocent till proven guilty. It was in the papers so it must be true. It seems strange the UK press always bring this sort of dirt out shortly before an important competition.

Didnt the delightful Mr Beckham get accused of allowing his nanny to play with his goldenballs at one point in time.

Like the way everyone has an opinion on this without knowing all the facts. May I recommend a little patience before launching vitriolic attacks at John and Vanessa till one or both admit the stories are true.

It used to be called Lynching didnt it?

he did play with the nanny!

[arista]

He should be stripped of his captaincy, I dont want the captain of the England team to be a weak lowlife cheating rat...nah needs a stronger character than that...the mans got children!


His Wife and Kids are now in Dubai,
away from it all.

[arista]

Frank is next in line for a piece of her

She looks filthy as well



She is a Well Hot Lady.

[Angus]

So much for being innocent till proven guilty. It was in the papers so it must be true. It seems strange the UK press always bring this sort of dirt out shortly before an important competition.

Didnt the delightful Mr Beckham get accused of allowing his nanny to play with his goldenballs at one point in time.

Like the way everyone has an opinion on this without knowing all the facts. May I recommend a little patience before launching vitriolic attacks at John and Vanessa till one or both admit the stories are true.

It used to be called Lynching didnt it?


FFS, now you're saying Beckham didn't play away either? What nonsense. Such a serious accusation would immediately have attracted a massive law suit from the aggrieved Beckhams if there were no basis in fact.

John Terry went to court to try and gag the newspapers about this latest escapade and failed. Why try to gag the papers if the story is a lie?, just SUE them for defamation of character. But he can't, because that would involve a thorough investigation of the claims, which could possibly throw up even more dirt we don't know about yet.

How convenient for people to write off any and all negative stories about their favourites in the media, yet they're the first to trumpet any positive ones to support their own blinkered views.

As regards football in general, it has degenerated into disrepute because of the actions of many of the players who have become overpaid prima donnas who believe they are beyond criticism and throw hissy fits (and punches!) when pulled up about their behaviour.

[eye sea]

I flecking hate footballers full stop. :mad:

When you look at their lives, they're big kids.

1) Never had a proper job.
2) Basically they're still at school, playing football each week as if it were lessons.
3) Absolutely NO RESPONSIBILITIES. Because of their insane salaries, they never have to worry about bills, child care, nothing.
4) Because they have nothing to worry about, they spend the 'recreation' time basically flecking about literally!

Footballers are a complete waste of space, and ugly boy John Terry is no exception. :mad:

[setanta]

Very true Angus. The judge basically flung him out of court and lifted the injunction off the press, thereby allowing them to reveal him as the cheater that he is. What more proof do you need?

[rapunza1977]

As usual the media go utterly bonkers calling for his head, and for what? Of course he had an affair he is John Terry, reknowned for it and for being a bit trashy, he thinks with his crotch! Beckham was in the national squad when that Loose Woman broke her story, did they drop him?

Ashley Cole did it behind "naional treasure" Cheryl Cole, how many others I could go on, Lampard, Rooney, you name it! He just did it too close to home this time and therefore everyone outraged, would anyone care if it was Chantelle down at Faces? No, I do not think so!

Heartbreaking for his wife, but she has seen it all before and still married him, I feel for Wayne Bridge I think genuinely devested at th fact a good friend and team mate could do this.

[rapunza1977]

I flecking hate footballers full stop. :mad:

When you look at their lives, they're big kids.

1) Never had a proper job.
2) Basically they're still at school, playing football each week as if it were lessons.
3) Absolutely NO RESPONSIBILITIES. Because of their insane salaries, they never have to worry about bills, child care, nothing.
4) Because they have nothing to worry about, they spend the 'recreation' time basically flecking about literally!

Footballers are a complete waste of space, and ugly boy John Terry is no exception. :mad:



Absolute nonsense.................there are players who are premier league , married, kids and totally responsible - paid huge sums for a talent he has and is regarded as a fine athlete - his RESPONSIBILTIES are to his club, hiw wife and his kids as well as his peers and as a great roe model. He has to worry about a short lived career, consistent injury. What do you regard as a "proper job"..a pop star? a reality tv contestant? This is a proper job, how they eat, sleep, walk and talk. Not all get boozed up and fall out of nightclubs.....so your point 4 is utter nonsense..point 3 is nonsense..they have worries, just different worries from yours or mine...no 2 is even more ludicrous...

[arista]

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2010/02/02/article-1247779-081E0E23000005DC-928_306x922.jpg
Vanessa Terrys Lover

[rapunza1977]

Well it says that the guy is a big household name, surely not another Chelsea player - makes her look like she is going round the whole team and further humiliation for poor Wayne :(

I am unsure, anyone any ideas who they think it could be?

[rapunza1977]

He should be stripped of his captaincy, I dont want the captain of the England team to be a weak lowlife cheating rat...nah needs a stronger character than that...the mans got children!



So did Beckham...

[Tom4784]

I'll say it again, the people complaining now will only moan more if England loses at the world cup due to an inferior captain and leadership. The man's good at what he does who gives a ***** what he does behind closed doors. All that stuff about him being a role model is stupid as well, Nobody asks to be a role model and it's unfair to expect someone to lead a perfect life. If he's a role model it should be for his performance on the pitch, NOTHING ELSE.

[Angus]

I'll say it again, the people complaining now will only moan more if England loses at the world cup due to an inferior captain and leadership. The man's good at what he does who gives a ***** what he does behind closed doors. All that stuff about him being a role model is stupid as well, Nobody asks to be a role model and it's unfair to expect someone to lead a perfect life. If he's a role model it should be for his performance on the pitch, NOTHING ELSE.


This has to be the most disingenuous post I've read so far:shocked:

[Alf]

so angus which role model should be england captain?

not gerrard, he's just been through the courts on an assault charge

not lampard, he's had affairs in the past, drunken disordely behaviour and had a porn tape out

not ferdinand, he was banned a couple of years back for failing to take a drugs test, and as done a porn tape with lampard.

not ashley cole, he cheated on his wife cheryl not so long back, which was all in the papers.

not rooney, he was in the news for cheating on coleen with grannies.

not beckham, the papers told us he had an affair with rebecca loos, and of course we know papers are the honest truth.

so who do you think it should be?

[Novo]

It should be Micheal Tonge

[rapunza1977]

so angus which role model should be england captain?

not gerrard, he's just been through the courts on an assault charge

not lampard, he's had affairs in the past, drunken disordely behaviour and had a porn tape out

not ferdinand, he was banned a couple of years back for failing to take a drugs test, and as done a porn tape with lampard.

not ashley cole, he cheated on his wife cheryl not so long back, which was all in the papers.

not rooney, he was in the news for cheating on coleen with grannies.

not beckham, the papers told us he had an affair with rebecca loos, and of course we know papers are the honest truth.

so who do you think it should be?



Very well put!!

[Angus]

so angus which role model should be england captain?

not gerrard, he's just been through the courts on an assault charge

not lampard, he's had affairs in the past, drunken disordely behaviour and had a porn tape out

not ferdinand, he was banned a couple of years back for failing to take a drugs test, and as done a porn tape with lampard.

not ashley cole, he cheated on his wife cheryl not so long back, which was all in the papers.

not rooney, he was in the news for cheating on coleen with grannies.

not beckham, the papers told us he had an affair with rebecca loos, and of course we know papers are the honest truth.

so who do you think it should be?



Yes, it's a sad catalogue of overpaid, overhyped tossers isn't it - but since I'm not the England Manager (I believe that honour goes to an Italian) I am not qualified to make that decision. How sad that Capello has such a poor selection to choose from - rather him than me.

However, what you appear to be suggesting is that Terry should be allowed to retain the captaincy because he's the best of a bad bunch? Clearly the status of Captain of England is now nothing to aspire to or achieve since it can be conferred on a man who has shown himself to have no sense of morality, dignity, justice or fair play, all requisite qualities of a team leader. His footballing skills are not in question here, and I am not suggesting he is kicked off the team. He should not however be Captain - he does not deserve the title or status.

[Wildcat!]

Being the captain of a football tesam, requireds, leading by example on the field, being a leader, having the respect of your teammates (for what you do on the field), and some experience, with mumber of years you have played, and the caps you have collected.
Terry has all of that, and his off the field anticds, have nothing to do with it. Its pathetic to even think of removing him as captain.

[setanta]

You keep comparing him to other England footballers and their ill advised and reprehensible behaviour, but I think you're all missing the most important point of this whole thing which has little or nothing to do with him cheating on his wife and could have a huge effect for England in the World Cup.......

He f£cked his teammates girfriend!!! Had an affair with her. That's the key issue here when it concerns Terry's tenure as captain and it's bound to create tension in the dressing room. Forget about the moral implications for a second and just think about that instead.

[arista]

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2010/02/02/article-1247779-081ED0C0000005DC-872_306x922.jpg
Terrys very able Lover Venessa.

[rapunza1977]

are you going to print that all day :) I assume your a big fan :)

[Wildcat!]

You keep comparing him to other England footballers and their ill advised and reprehensible behaviour, but I think you're all missing the most important point of this whole thing which has little or nothing to do with him cheating on his wife and could have a huge effect for England in the World Cup.......

He f£cked his teammates girfriend!!! Had an affair with her. That's the key issue here when it concerns Terry's tenure as captain and it's bound to create tension in the dressing room. Forget about the moral implications for a second and just think about that instead.

I thought, it was the dude's ex girlfriend? If so, I dont think that should be a problem. Or did it happen when they were still together? If so, thats a whole other issue. I agree, that would affect team morale and chemistry. So clarify for me if you dont mind.

[rapunza1977]

You keep comparing him to other England footballers and their ill advised and reprehensible behaviour, but I think you're all missing the most important point of this whole thing which has little or nothing to do with him cheating on his wife and could have a huge effect for England in the World Cup.......

He f£cked his teammates girfriend!!! Had an affair with her. That's the key issue here when it concerns Terry's tenure as captain and it's bound to create tension in the dressing room. Forget about the moral implications for a second and just think about that instead.

Of course it will create tension however it's no different to a boss having an affair with a work mates wife, PA, colleague. This creates tension!

They have a job to do, they get on with it. Paid well enough. I can see where Wayne is coming from, a lot of the guys have extra marital affairs, as I said before it's heart breaking it's so close to whom. They just need to get out there and play for their country. I do not think JT should be sent to the slaughter, career ruined all because of this!?!? Has nothing to do with te game. It's a witch hunt as per by British media - look at Tiger Woods. Totally out of hand, and who cares, their wifes put up with it and I would bet my months salary that JT's wife will not leave him, she should, take him to the cleaners, but I bet she will not.

[rapunza1977]

I thought, it was the dude's ex girlfriend? If so, I dont think that should be a problem. Or did it happen when they were still together? If so, thats a whole other issue. I agree, that would affect team morale and chemistry. So clarify for me if you dont mind.

well media reports say it happened when she ended things with Wayne and he went to City as she refused to move to manchester - allegedly

it supposedly happened after this but how do we know, unless she does sell her story,

[Alf]

well media reports say it happened when she ended things with Wayne and he went to City as she refused to move to manchester - allegedly

it supposedly happened after this but how do we know, unless she does sell her story,
and how much will they offer her to exaggerate the story?
i've also heard it was after they split and bridge had gone to man city

[setanta]

I thought, it was the dude's ex girlfriend? If so, I dont think that should be a problem. Or did it happen when they were still together? If so, thats a whole other issue. I agree, that would affect team morale and chemistry. So clarify for me if you dont mind.

Well the dates haven't been determined yet but the fact is Wayne Bridge has a child with this girl and has been a close friend to Terry while with Chelsea and England. That's not on as far as I'm concerned and this wasn't just a one night thing between them. Sure they've all known each other for years at this stage so who knows when it first started? Terry also made her have an abortion!

[30stone]

Ohh yeah lets sack the best captain we have got..

Just shrink our chances of winning the biggest prize in football which brings millions into this country..

Smart..

Terry is the best captain.. he is also the best centre back we have..

Why ruin our chances?

Its a personal issue not for us to control.

[setanta]

Ohh yeah lets sack the best captain we have got..

Just shrink our chances of winning the biggest prize in football which brings millions into this country..

Smart..

Terry is the best captain.. he is also the best centre back we have..

Why ruin our chances?

Its a personal issue not for us to control.

Wayne Bridge plays for England too and, judging from the tshirts warn by a few of the City players last weekend, he's a well liked young man who's apparently finding it hard to cope at the moment. This could have huge repercussions for the National team.

[Alf]

he's in my home city tonight, wonder if vanessa's gonna be here

[Wildcat!]

So basically, its all he said she said craap! Not that it would matter as far as his role as captain, as fAR \as I am concerned of course, I know some people would disagree.

But really, this is very, very silly!

I remember when it happened with Kobe Bryant in the US. He is the LA Lakers superstar, and had to deal with infidelity scandal. Even had a rape allegation on him. BUt Kobe prevailed, because of his Abilities, on the court. I hope it happens for Terry because he is a legend on the field, and I hate to see us football fans, deprived of his contribution.

[Wildcat!]

Ohh yeah lets sack the best captain we have got..

Just shrink our chances of winning the biggest prize in football which brings millions into this country..

Smart..

Terry is the best captain.. he is also the best centre back we have..

Why ruin our chances?

Its a personal issue not for us to control.

Agree completely there! If I was english at least. :)
But you know what I mean. Football is football. Entertainment. Life, Is much bigger, and some ball player, shouldnt be held to certain standards.

[arista]

are you going to print that all day :) I assume your a big fan :)



No but it gives us a good view of his Hot Bit
on the side.

[setanta]

So basically, its all he said she said craap! Not that it would matter as far as his role as captain, as fAR \as I am concerned of course, I know some people would disagree.
.

It has a huge effect on his ability to lead his team when you consider that Wayne Bridge could be on the national team and sure even if he's not there's many who know and like the guy.

As for it being a case of he said, she said: Terry went to court to try and maintain his anonymity concerning all of these allegations, but the judge lifted the injunction on the press and allowed them to reveal his identity.

[Crimson Dynamo]

dont forget that prem football players are really just cab drivers who are very good at football.

terry is an oik, a classic example of poor loveless upbringing, a spiritual vacuum filled with material desire, what you get when you worship money.

The England football team get what they represent and the spineless FA will prevaricate.

Obviously if he really was a captain, he would resign.

[WOMBAI]

Disagree that it's a personal issue! The effectiveness of his job relies on more than just his footballing skills. It also relies on him being able to gain a certain amount of respect from the public, other footballers and management. Lack of respect and bad morale between the players is extremely detrimental to his position. His effectiveness as a captain/manager is dependent upon his ability to gain respect and that has been severely compromised by his behaviour!

[Alf]

Disagree that it's a personal issue! The effectiveness of his job relies on more than just his footballing skills. It also relies on him being able to gain a certain amount of respect from the public, other footballers and management. Lack of respect and bad morale between the players is extremely detrimental to his position. His effectiveness as a captain/manager is dependent upon his ability to gain respect and that has been severely compromised by his behaviour!
england football fans (real ones) have respect for him as a player, which is what really matters and i'd wager the large majority if not all of his england team mates do aswell.

[Crimson Dynamo]

england football fans (real ones) have respect for him as a player, which is what really matters and i'd wager the large majority if not all of his england team mates do aswell.

so what if he was done for child computer porn?

[rapunza1977]

Well the dates haven't been determined yet but the fact is Wayne Bridge has a child with this girl and has been a close friend to Terry while with Chelsea and England. That's not on as far as I'm concerned and this wasn't just a one night thing between them. Sure they've all known each other for years at this stage so who knows when it first started? Terry also made her have an abortion!

allegedly! paper talk.

we do not know, apparently a lof of lies and this is why she is toying with the idea of getting story out there, what will be interesting is the chat about possibility of another big player sleeping with her ... if he is married / kids / gfriend etc etc

[setanta]

allegedly! paper talk.

we do not know, apparently a lof of lies and this is why she is toying with the idea of getting story out there, what will be interesting is the chat about possibility of another big player sleeping with her ... if he is married / kids / gfriend etc etc

Lies? The judge ruled over it and decided to allow the papers to print it. What more do you need?

[Alf]

so what if he was done for child computer porn?
but he hasn't, and that would be a totally different situation than having a concenting adult relationship.
if that was the case then i'm sure people would lose respect for him.

[30stone]

Wayne Bridge plays for England too and, judging from the tshirts warn by a few of the City players last weekend, he's a well liked young man who's apparently finding it hard to cope at the moment. This could have huge repercussions for the National team.

Where they first team english players...

and of course man city players are gunna stick by him, just like players like lampard have stuck with terry..

[rapunza1977]

Wayne Bridge plays for England too and, judging from the tshirts warn by a few of the City players last weekend, he's a well liked young man who's apparently finding it hard to cope at the moment. This could have huge repercussions for the National team.

The players who put on those shirts were not England players, Wayne is also an understudy to Ashley Cole and not regular fixture.

I agree he will be finding it hard to cope - not condoning what JT has done its despicable and immoral however my point is business is business and footy is a major business, stupid for everyone to jump on the bandwagon and tell him to resign - from what I gather he is an excellent leader on the pitch and that is all that matter - as I said before, sh** happens in work and you just need to deal with it, just like this situation. not helped thatmedia is all over it, apparently Wayne has known for some time and its only because of the media backlash and splashed all over the papers that he is feeling totally mortifed, not saying he was not before, but tyhe fact it's out there - detail after details is making it a major major issue.

[rapunza1977]

Lies? The judge ruled over it and decided to allow the papers to print it. What more do you need?

talking about media reports, not saying it is all lies however there are untruths and truths and this is why she is preparing to get her story out there

[Crimson Dynamo]

Football is a filthy business that has no morals, only the fans are decent. The precedent was set long ago. JT is exactly the right person to represent what football is.

[30stone]

Wayne bridge will most likely leave..

We can bring in possibly Kieran gibbs to replace him..
As we all know Cole is above Bridge anyway.

We lost terry who do we bring in..?

[setanta]

You see, this is the mental thing about the attitude that's being shown on here: It seems to me that alot of people are defending Terry because of his high profile. I wonder how you'd react to news of a fringe player behaving in this manner. Chances are you'd be telling us that he should be out of the team.

If Bridge had done it to Terry he'd be out the door immediately. That's crazy.

[Alf]

Wayne bridge will most likely leave..

We can bring in possibly Kieran gibbs to replace him..
As we all know Cole is above Bridge anyway.

We lost terry who do we bring in..?
gibbs can get to the back of the que, leighton baines comes first

[Wildcat!]

dont forget that prem football players are really just cab drivers who are very good at football.

terry is an oik, a classic example of poor loveless upbringing, a spiritual vacuum filled with material desire, what you get when you worship money.

The England football team get what they represent and the spineless FA will prevaricate.

Obviously if he really was a captain, he would resign.

#]One think, that most american pro athletes have thats unique. Most of the pros are drafted out of college. So other than the athletes coming from europe, modt of them are college graduates, from playing in the NCAA. I think the UK should develop university level football leagues. I am surprised that it doesnt exist.

[Enid]

Didn't he win dad of the year or something? I'd be absolutely mortified if I was the wife or kid.

He is going to get stripped, but at least now that this is in the spotlight, there's less pressure on the team to win.

[rapunza1977]

You see, this is the mental thing about the attitude that's being shown on here: It seems to me that alot of people are defending Terry because of his high profile. I wonder how you'd react to news of a fringe player behaving in this manner. Chances are you'd be telling us that he should be out of the team.

If Bridge had done it to Terry he'd be out the door immediately. That's crazy.


?? how can you say that....................people have affairs - one nights stands behind partners back all the time - condoning nothing, do they get sacked? No - they have to deal with it..........which these guys will do ..... JT should not be asked to leave his position because of it.........they did not sack Sven when he was playing away..it's ludicrous and a complete media frenzy, as I said before, I bet Toni Poole will not leave JT

[Crimson Dynamo]

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Abigail Clancy has not been implicated

[Alf]

You see, this is the mental thing about the attitude that's being shown on here: It seems to me that alot of people are defending Terry because of his high profile. I wonder how you'd react to news of a fringe player behaving in this manner. Chances are you'd be telling us that he should be out of the team.

If Bridge had done it to Terry he'd be out the door immediately. That's crazy.
i have no doubt that fringe players do act in this manner, just that the high profile players make for better fish and chip paper, if it was lets say mark noble who did this, nobody would even care and he is the former england u21 captain

[Wildcat!]

Didn't he win dad of the year or something? I'd be absolutely mortified if I was the wife or kid.

He is going to get stripped, but at least now that this is in the spotlight, there's less pressure on the team to win.

Fair enough, but it shouldnt have any effect on the football field. As a matter of fact, it usually means the player focuses a lot more on the field, when he is dealing with off field issues. Thats speaking from things that I have observed.

[Tom4784]

so what if he was done for child computer porn?

What a silly point, that'd be different because that's a crime and a serious one at that. Cheating's not illegal, immoral yes but it's their problem not ours.

Like somebody else said the world cup brings money into this country but it also brings England together. The community spirit, the hope the joy of a goal ETC. The World cup is good for morale of the country so why hurt our chances because of one person's personal problems? He obviously can leave them outside the stadium and so should we. When he plays football that is all that matters. I'm not condoning him cheating I'm just saying that he's good at what he does and punishing him for something that doesn't concern us is only punishing ourselves in the long run.

He's recieving a roasting from the media already and his marriage is probably over, what more do you want? Blood?

[setanta]

?? how can you say that....................people have affairs - one nights stands behind partners back all the time - condoning nothing, do they get sacked? No - they have to deal with it..........which these guys will do ..... JT should not be asked to leave his position because of it.........they did not sack Sven when he was playing away..it's ludicrous and a complete media frenzy, as I said before, I bet Toni Poole will not leave JT

Wayne Bridge wouldn't be defended as strongly in here if the roles were reversed. That's fairly obvious to me.

Terry was f£cking his friend's girlfriend... his friend being a teammate too and he's the captain. Come on.

[setanta]

i have no doubt that fringe players do act in this manner, just that the high profile players make for better fish and chip paper, if it was lets say mark noble who did this, nobody would even care and he is the former england u21 captain

Yes, you wouldn't care and they'd be out the door. Do you not see the blinkered view you have of it all just because of the high profile that Terry has as a footballer?

[Crimson Dynamo]

What a silly point, that'd be different because that's a crime and a serious one at that. Cheating's not illegal, immoral yes but it's their problem not ours.

Like somebody else said the world cup brings money into this country but it also brings England together. The community spirit, the hope the joy of a goal ETC. The World cup is good for morale of the country so why hurt our chances because of one person's personal problems? He obviously can leave them outside the stadium and so should we. When he plays football that is all that matters. I'm not condoning him cheating I'm just saying that he's good at what he does and punishing him for something that doesn't concern us is only punishing ourselves in the long run.

He's recieving a roasting from the media already and his marriage is probably over, what more do you want? Blood?

i am just ascertaining what the ceiling is?

so having criminal parents, one a drug dealer, and cheating on partners and team mates seems to be ok. so how far does one need to go?

[Wildcat!]

What a silly point, that'd be different because that's a crime and a serious one at that. Cheating's not illegal, immoral yes but it's their problem not ours.

Like somebody else said the world cup brings money into this country but it also brings England together. The community spirit, the hope the joy of a goal ETC. The World cup is good for morale of the country so why hurt our chances because of one person's personal problems? He obviously can leave them outside the stadium and so should we. When he plays football that is all that matters. I'm not condoning him cheating I'm just saying that he's good at what he does and punishing him for something that doesn't concern us is only punishing ourselves in the long run.

He's recieving a roasting from the media already and his marriage is probably over, what more do you want? Blood?


I could not have put it any better. Pretty much how I feel about the whole thing.

[WOMBAI]

i am just ascertaining what the ceiling is?

so having criminal parents, one a drug dealer, and cheating on partners and team mates seems to be ok. so how far does one need to go?

You can't hold someone responsible for what their parents do - that IS ridiculous!

[Tom4784]

i am just ascertaining what the ceiling is?

so having criminal parents, one a drug dealer, and cheating on partners and team mates seems to be ok. so how far does one need to go?

There's a difference between crime and personal problems, if someone you didn't know who lived in your town cheated on someone would you bay for their blood and try to get them sacked? No you'd leave them to it. Personal problems should be just that, personal. The who family's gonna suffer because of this and He's definately gonna get the worst, why strip him of a title he's good at and harm our own chances for personal troubles.

Now if he was a criminal that would be different, and I don't really need to go into details as a baboon could see why.

That point about the parents confuses me, are you saying he's to blame for having criminal parents? If it is then it's another ridiculous point, If your parents have made bad choices in life then you should learn from their mistakes and experiences and forge a different path.

[rapunza1977]

You can't hold someone responsible for what their parents do - that IS ridiculous!

em .............. no I believe you can

I always blame the parents..................:dance:

[Wildcat!]

The WC is so much about national pride, on a non violent, beautiful, sporting event, you only focus on the craft, itself. At least I do! I only see how good, or how bad they play on the field. Terry is a beast on the field. He can make a difference, in games.

I soo wish, senegal was going this year! :( :bawling:

But the WC is da bomb regardless!!!:dance:

[Alf]

Yes, you wouldn't care and they'd be out the door. Do you not see the blinkered view you have of it all just because of the high profile that Terry has as a footballer?
i dont care that john terry had an affair in his private life,his life he can do what he wants for me, i care about england winning the world cup and having the best men for the job, and in my opinion john terry is the best man for the england captaincy job,
it's people who are trying to hang him for something that is nothing to do with them. and i'd take the same attitude with any player.
if bridge and terry can not sort their differences then copello should be the man to make the decision not the gutter press or the so called pundits (who have only played sunday league football on their local park)

[rapunza1977]

Wayne Bridge wouldn't be defended as strongly in here if the roles were reversed. That's fairly obvious to me.

Terry was f£cking his friend's girlfriend... his friend being a teammate too and he's the captain. Come on.

I am not condoning it.......................looking at the bigger picture!

I am not an England fan by the way, but I can see the bigger picture, it's about what he does on the pitch!

How do you know they would not defend Wayne Bridges if roles reversed? How can you say this?

Wayne happily leant JT his house on occasion so JT could get it on with another wannabee so this shows Wayne condoned extra martial affairs!!

[Vicky.]

We need lionheart terry to be our rock at the back for the world cup

Everyone will forgive him when he heads home a 90th minute corner against brazil

or slips over when he takes a penalty that could win the game ;)

[setanta]

i dont care that john terry had an affair in his private life,his life he can do what he wants for me, i care about england winning the world cup and having the best men for the job, and in my opinion john terry is the best man for the england captaincy job,
it's people who are trying to hang him for something that is nothing to do with them. and i'd take the same attitude with any player.
if bridge and terry can not sort their differences then copello should be the man to make the decision not the gutter press or the so called pundits (who have only played sunday league football on their local park)

But Wayne Bridge is hurting right now and wants nothing to do with Terry. He's even considered just abandoning his England career. This could have a huge impact on the English team, especially since Terry is the captain and should lead by example. What example is he setting in this particular moment?

Oh, and Terry wont resign so it's down to Capello now.

Like I said, if this was a fringe player the reaction would be totally different on here.

[rapunza1977]

or slips over when he takes a penalty that could win the game ;)


well no - I am still smarting at cheat terry henry so I will be supporting no one in the world cup..............but I can see when a player is a good captain and thats all he should be known for - on the field

up to him to sort his personals outwith the game and in the privacy of him own home

[Crimson Dynamo]

There's a difference between crime and personal problems, if someone you didn't know who lived in your town cheated on someone would you bay for their blood and try to get them sacked? No you'd leave them to it. Personal problems should be just that, personal. The who family's gonna suffer because of this and He's definately gonna get the worst, why strip him of a title he's good at and harm our own chances for personal troubles.

Now if he was a criminal that would be different, and I don't really need to go into details as a baboon could see why.

That point about the parents confuses me, are you saying he's to blame for having criminal parents? If it is then it's another ridiculous point, If your parents have made bad choices in life then you should learn from their mistakes and experiences and forge a different path.

JT is the England Captain. Not just some employee. His private life, his family are public and are written about, this is why he commands a large salary. As England captain you have much influence over children, many children who, for example see sport/football as the most important thing in their lives. have a look around at children to see them ape their fave stars. Are you suggesting that they somehow syphon off the bad bits and just copy the good?


he has a unique position of responsibility beyond that of a "employee" his example to children stinks.

[rapunza1977]

But Wayne Bridge is hurting right now and wants nothing to do with Terry. He's even considered just abandoning his England career. This could have a huge impact on the English team, especially since Terry is the captain and should lead by example. What example is he setting in this particular moment?

Oh, and Terry wont resign so it's down to Capello now.

Like I said, if this was a fringe player the reaction would be totally different on here.

Wayne has bee struggling with his England career for a while now threatening to retire before, he might not even be in the squad! If ghe wants to cut his nose off to spite his face then sdo be it.

[setanta]

I am not condoning it.......................looking at the bigger picture!

I am not an England fan by the way, but I can see the bigger picture, it's about what he does on the pitch!

How do you know they would not defend Wayne Bridges if roles reversed? How can you say this?

Wayne happily leant JT his house on occasion so JT could get it on with another wannabee so this shows Wayne condoned extra martial affairs!!

I can see it from what you're saying about Terry, being an important part of the England team and crucial to Englands chances. You're bypassing all the sh£te and just talking about his commitment on the football pitch which is not the issue here. Every single player on a squad commits themselves to their team, but sure what kind team unity are you going to have when your captain has been f"£king the mother of one of his teammates children?

As I said before, if Wayne Bridge or Warnock or Agbonlahor had done something like this you'd want them out the door, no questions asked.

[rapunza1977]

Alan Shearar has gone on to say he is the best man for the job, albeit this is a huge feck up but I bet many players in that dressing room want him there,

[Wildcat!]

But Wayne Bridge is hurting right now and wants nothing to do with Terry. He's even considered just abandoning his England career. This could have a huge impact on the English team, especially since Terry is the captain and should lead by example. What example is he setting in this particular moment?

Oh, and Terry wont resign so it's down to Capello now.

Like I said, if this was a fringe player the reaction would be totally different on here.


He can then go, and blow it out of his behind!!
This is no huge thing for him. A girl, who once was his girlfriend, has public scandal, with one of my teammates! I dont give a damn! how would that affect the world cup? If it does, then he doesnt belong there.

[Tom4784]

JT is the England Captain. Not just some employee. His private life, his family are public and are written about, this is why he commands a large salary. As England captain you have much influence over children, many children who, for example see sport/football as the most important thing in their lives. have a look around at children to see them ape their fave stars. Are you suggesting that they somehow syphon off the bad bits and just copy the good?


he has a unique position of responsibility beyond that of a "employee" his example to children stinks.

Nobody's a good role model, it's just some celebrities are better at hiding the naughty bits then others. That's how it is. If you're gonna look upto someone do it for their talent or skill in a certain field since you'll only end up disappointed because no one is perfect. He's human at the end of the day and his family problems are not something we should be involving ourselves with. Regardless of the tabloids delusions of grandieur about themselves he is a footballer and all most people care about is the performance of the team and he is a vital part of the team.

[Crimson Dynamo]

He can then go, and blow it out of his behind!!
This is no huge thing for him. A girl, who once was his girlfriend, has public scandal, with one of my teammates! I dont give a damn! how would that affect the world cup? If it does, then he doesnt belong there.

How do you feel about him, in 2001, being fined two weeks’ wages after being accused of drunkenly mocking American tourists at Heathrow in the wake of the 9/11 attacks?

[rapunza1977]

it happens every day

best mates run off with best mates partners, it's because these guys are in the public domain they are supposed ot be saints - more full them for causing it but come on - look at the footy players that get sent behind bars, the come out to plat again for top teams,

[setanta]

He can then go, and blow it out of his behind!!
This is no huge thing for him. A girl, who once was his girlfriend, has public scandal, with one of my teammates! I dont give a damn! how would that affect the world cup? If it does, then he doesnt belong there.

Terry was one of his best friends for years. She is the mother of Bridge's child. They've only split up recently. They both attended Terry's wedding for feck sake. We have no idea how long this affair has being going on for. Do I need to go on here?

[rapunza1977]

How do you feel about him, in 2001, being fined two weeks’ wages after being accused of drunkenly mocking American tourists at Heathrow in the wake of the 9/11 attacks?

no one is saying the guy is not an idiot - he is trailer trash for sure however is is needed for England and Chelsea as he is a tremendous player -

[setanta]

it happens every day

best mates run off with best mates partners, it's because these guys are in the public domain they are supposed ot be saints - more full them for causing it but come on - look at the footy players that get sent behind bars, the come out to plat again for top teams,

You don't get it here. They play for England together. He's the England captain. They were really good friends and hung out together with their girlfriends.

[Vicky.]

The difference between it being Terry and Joe public though, in his job, he IS, whether he likes it or not, a rolemodel to others. He should behave accordingly.

Dont see any reason for him to be sacked though

[rapunza1977]

Terry was one of his best friends for years. She is the mother of Bridge's child. They've only split up recently. They both attended Terry's wedding for feck sake. We have no idea how long this affair has being going on for. Do I need to go on here?

Do you not know anyone who has had affairs? Who has hurt families?

People do it every day

[rapunza1977]

You don't get it here. They play for England together. He's the England captain. They were really good friends and hung out together with their girlfriends.

I hear you - but its still no argument for him to be sacked from captain

[Angus]

?? how can you say that....................people have affairs - one nights stands behind partners back all the time - condoning nothing, do they get sacked? No - they have to deal with it..........which these guys will do ..... JT should not be asked to leave his position because of it.........they did not sack Sven when he was playing away..it's ludicrous and a complete media frenzy, as I said before, I bet Toni Poole will not leave JT

John Terry is not just one of the team, he is the Captain, the highest level of achievement in English football, awarded as a great honour to the player deemed the most worthy of ALL the players in England. He is a figurehead, and a role model for aspiring career footballers, and it is his responsibility NOT to participate in any behaviour that brings the position of Captain, the game of football, his country or his team into disrepute. When he was found out he scurried off to his lawyers to invoke a super injunction to prevent the press from printing the stories. Thankfully, for once, the Courts threw out his application BECAUSE the stories were true, and there was no basis to withhold them from the public. Any misfortune that befalls himself personally or the England team because of the fall out is completely due to his own actions.

Terry may be a great footballer, but he does not have the strength of character and scruples to be a worthy holder of the captaincy. Capello can deploy him on the field where, perhaps, he can redeem himself by doing what he is being paid megabucks to do and take England to victory in the World cup, but it should not be as Captain. That boat should well and truly have sailed for Terry.

[setanta]

Do you not know anyone who has had affairs? Who has hurt families?

People do it every day

He's the captain of England and as such has a different role to play, a role that he has been very quick to promote - the one of the clean cut, honest family man.

Yes, and when people do it everyday they face the consequences, as Terry should in both his professional and personal life because he was the idiot who mixed the two of them up.

[Angus]

The difference between it being Terry and Joe public though, in his job, he IS, whether he likes it or not, a rolemodel to others. He should behave accordingly.

Dont see any reason for him to be sacked though

Am not suggesting he be sacked, I am saying he should be stripped of the captaincy.

[informer]

he is a total low class peasant and an overgrown chav...his parents have been involved in drug deals and shoplifting and he was also in the papers for 'roasting' a football groupie in ibiza or somewhere

plus he is from barking in essex , the BNP stronghold...and even resembles a thug

when he speaks its embarassing with that thick as **** accent

he is just a big fat lump who tackles in defence and likes to think of himself as the 'guvnor' or whatever..

a total waste of spunk in terms of a human being

and the fact he was willing to shag a close friends missus is shocking...shows he is nothing more than an animal

[Alf]

my mum had an affair when i was a kid, which led to my parents splitting up, growing up i still saw both my parents as role models and have huge respect for them both.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Ultimately he will not win the world cup with England as he has not the moral fibre/balls/courage to do it.


haha

dreams

shattered

again

[informer]

Ultimately he will not win the world cup with England as he has not the moral fibre/balls/courage to do it.


haha

dreams

shattered

again

he should be on a building site somewhere if he wasnt a footballer

[Crimson Dynamo]

he should be on a building site somewhere if he wasnt a footballer

he would be with the EDL

[Angus]

He's the captain of England and as such has a different role to play, a role that he has been very quick to promote - the one of the clean cut, honest family man.

Yes, and when people do it everyday they face the consequences, as Terry should in both his professional and personal life because he was the idiot who mixed the two of them up.


I fear some of the posters on this thread will never GET it. Where have I said he should be thrown out of the team? Let him play by all means, but not as CAPTAIN. That position should be reserved from someone worthy to take it on.

[informer]

he would be with the EDL

He was born and raised in Barking, Essex....THE Bnp stroghold......and his face would fit right in...

[eye sea]

Absolute nonsense.................there are players who are premier league , married, kids and totally responsible - paid huge sums for a talent he has and is regarded as a fine athlete - his RESPONSIBILTIES are to his club, hiw wife and his kids as well as his peers and as a great roe model. He has to worry about a short lived career, consistent injury. What do you regard as a "proper job"..a pop star? a reality tv contestant? This is a proper job, how they eat, sleep, walk and talk. Not all get boozed up and fall out of nightclubs.....so your point 4 is utter nonsense..point 3 is nonsense..they have worries, just different worries from yours or mine...no 2 is even more ludicrous...


Obviously you didn't read or understand my post. What I mean is that BECAUSE they are paid huge sums of money for a pathetic little game like kicking a ball around, they are not aware of their responsibilities.

1) All their football contracts are organised by solicitors.
2) They have maids and nannies to run their houses and dress their kids.
3) They and their kids probably have their own personal shoppers.
4) All bills and financial affairs are organised by others.

You haven't a clue about the life they lead, mate. Not a clue. They lead such an insular life, detached from any sort of reality.

Wake up and smell the coffee!

[rapunza1977]

John Terry is not just one of the team, he is the Captain, the highest level of achievement in English football, awarded as a great honour to the player deemed the most worthy of ALL the players in England. He is a figurehead, and a role model for aspiring career footballers, and it is his responsibility NOT to participate in any behaviour that brings the position of Captain, the game of football, his country or his team into disrepute. When he was found out he scurried off to his lawyers to invoke a super injunction to prevent the press from printing the stories. Thankfully, for once, the Courts threw out his application BECAUSE the stories were true, and there was no basis to withhold them from the public. Any misfortune that befalls himself personally or the England team because of the fall out is completely due to his own actions.

Terry may be a great footballer, but he does not have the strength of character and scruples to be a worthy holder of the captaincy. Capello can deploy him on the field where, perhaps, he can redeem himself by doing what he is being paid megabucks to do and take England to victory in the World cup, but it should not be as Captain. That boat should well and truly have sailed for Terry.

Well reading everything you have said, you are very true however judging by the colour past of majority of top Engalnd players, who is worthy?

[informer]

Obviously you didn't read or understand my post. What I mean is that BECAUSE they are paid huge sums of money for a pathetic little game like kicking a ball around, they are not aware of their responsibilities.

1) All their football contracts are organised by solicitors.
2) They have maids and nannies to run their houses and dress their kids.
3) Them and their kids probably have their own personal shoppers.

You haven't a clue about the life they lead, mate. Not a clue. They lead such an insular life, detached from any sort of reality.

Wake up and smell the coffee!

And on top of all that Terry tries to make extra money by showing someone round a training ground..greedy?

[rapunza1977]

Obviously you didn't read or understand my post. What I mean is that BECAUSE they are paid huge sums of money for a pathetic little game like kicking a ball around, they are not aware of their responsibilities.

1) All their football contracts are organised by solicitors.
2) They have maids and nannies to run their houses and dress their kids.
3) Them and their kids probably have their own personal shoppers.

You haven't a clue about the life they lead, mate. Not a clue. They lead such an insular life, detached from any sort of reality.

Wake up and smell the coffee!

Please get your facts straight - I did read your post! They do not ALL have maids and nannies so this is nonsense. Of course a solicitor will handle the transfers, deals, they have a legal mind to do this and only the best interest in their client, as for no 3, utter nonsense - you are basing all this on what? What you read?

[rapunza1977]

Obviously you didn't read or understand my post. What I mean is that BECAUSE they are paid huge sums of money for a pathetic little game like kicking a ball around, they are not aware of their responsibilities.

1) All their football contracts are organised by solicitors.
2) They have maids and nannies to run their houses and dress their kids.
3) They and their kids probably have their own personal shoppers.
4) All bills and financial affairs are organised by others.

You haven't a clue about the life they lead, mate. Not a clue. They lead such an insular life, detached from any sort of reality.

Wake up and smell the coffee!


no 4 is nonsense also, really this is laughable - you making this up as you go? I have no clue? ha ha ha ok then - absolute bull sh** and I know this from facts!!

[informer]

Please get your facts straight - I did read your post! They do not ALL have maids and nannies so this is nonsense. Of course a solicitor will handle the transfers, deals, they have a legal mind to do this and only the best interest in their client, as for no 3, utter nonsense - you are basing all this on what? What you read?

Its a good thing they leave the contracts to the solicitors as John Terry and most footballers cannot read...

[rapunza1977]

no 4 is nonsense also, really this is laughable - you making this up as you go? I have no clue? ha ha ha ok then - absolute bull sh** and I know this from facts!!

Obviously some player are and i say SOME but beleive me there are others out there who are nothing like this

[rapunza1977]

Its a good thing they leave the contracts to the solicitors as John Terry and most footballers cannot read...

I suppose they are all thick then eh? Lampard etc? :wavey: dry your eyes

You are generalising all footy players and tarring them all with the same brush which is really unfair

[informer]

I suppose they are all thick then eh? Lampard etc? :wavey: dry your eyes

You are generalising all footy players and tarring them all with the same brush which is really unfair

Majority of them would be in a council estate if they didnt kick a football around..have you heard john terry speak?

[Chantel]

Majority of them would be in a council estate if they didnt kick a football around..have you heard john terry speak?

So your basically judging him by the way he speaks?

[Alf]

I fear some of the posters on this thread will never GET it. Where have I said he should be thrown out of the team? Let him play by all means, but not as CAPTAIN. That position should be reserved from someone worthy to take it on.
who? all the main contenders have skeletons in their closet, maybe you think somebody that is not guarenteed a place in the side should be captain, ask every england player who they want as captain, i guarentee john terry would win by a landslide

[rapunza1977]

Majority of them would be in a council estate if they didnt kick a football around..have you heard john terry speak?

and this is relevant because?

[rapunza1977]

who? all the main contenders have skeletons in their closet, maybe you think somebody that is not guarenteed a place in the side should be captain, ask every england player who they want as captain, i guarentee john terry would win by a landslide

Exactly! It's not that i DO NOT GET IT! Of course i do, he is despicable no denying it however, he is there because he is no 1 in many players, managers eyes. Even Roman Abramovich has given his full backing. No one condoning as thing he has done, its lowest of the low but at the end of the day there is a world cup looming and money is money and they want to win.

[Alf]

Majority of them would be in a council estate if they didnt kick a football around..have you heard john terry speak?
school bells gone as it? dont time fly when your having fun?

[informer]

So your basically judging him by the way he speaks?

No Im judging him on the fact his mother was caught shoplifting, his dad was involved in drug deals, the fact he was involved in spit roasting a football groupie with others, that he was caught trying to get an extra 10 grand from a reporter for showing him round a training ground, that he is from barking in essex the main BNP area, and now for ****ing his best mates wife...the fact he is as thick as **** only adds to this embarrasing list...

he is a low class , common..thick peasant..

[Alf]

No Im judging him on the fact his mother was caught shoplifting, his dad was involved in drug deals, the fact he was involved in spit roasting a football groupie with others, that he was caught trying to get an extra 10 grand from a reporter for showing him round a training ground, that he is from barking in essex the main BNP area, and now for ****ing his best mates wife...the fact he is as thick as **** only adds to this embarrasing list...

he is a low class , common..thick peasant..
bobby moore was from barking

[rapunza1977]

No Im judging him on the fact his mother was caught shoplifting, his dad was involved in drug deals, the fact he was involved in spit roasting a football groupie with others, that he was caught trying to get an extra 10 grand from a reporter for showing him round a training ground, that he is from barking in essex the main BNP area, and now for ****ing his best mates wife...the fact he is as thick as **** only adds to this embarrasing list...

he is a low class , common..thick peasant..

it's agreed he has a pretty vile track record and perhaps not the greatest parenting which is unfortunate, on one hand you commend him for being at the top of his game and coming through all that to play for one of the biggest clubs in the world, but, there is no denying that money and fame has gone to his head and 170k a week would turn anyones head. He is still a young man. Look how many football players have similar backgrounds....

[informer]

bobby moore was from barking

You are surely not comparing Bobby Moore to this lump?

[informer]

it's agreed he has a pretty vile track record and perhaps not the greatest parenting which is unfortunate, on one hand you commend him for being at the top of his game and coming through all that to play for one of the biggest clubs in the world, but, there is no denying that money and fame has gone to his head and 170k a week would turn anyones head. He is still a young man. Look how many football players have similar backgrounds....

Both him and vinnie jones should be on a building site or in a white van with a copy of the SUN on the dashboard..they are the dregs of society and everything that is wrong with this country...uneducated yobs

[informer]

So your basically judging him by the way he speaks?

Are you a wannabe wag?

[Alf]

You are surely not comparing Bobby Moore to this lump?
there's a few comparisons,
both from barking
both centre defenders
both captained their country
both wore the number 6 shirt for england
both lacked pace
both like pie and mash and jellied eels
both like a knees up round the old joanna

[Chantel]

Are you a wannabe wag?

No im not lol

[rapunza1977]

Both him and vinnie jones should be on a building site or in a white van with a copy of the SUN on the dashboard..they are the dregs of society and everything that is wrong with this country...uneducated yobs


so builders are uneducated yobs? dregs of society?

[Angus]

who? all the main contenders have skeletons in their closet, maybe you think somebody that is not guarenteed a place in the side should be captain, ask every england player who they want as captain, i guarentee john terry would win by a landslide

It's not my job, nor that of the England players, nor that of the England fans, to pick the Captain, Capello was supposedly the best Manager available for the job and is reportedly being extremely well paid to make that call. Let's hope he makes the right decision.

[rapunza1977]

It's not my job, nor that of the England players, nor that of the England fans, to pick the Captain, Capello was supposedly the best Manager available for the job and is reportedly being extremely well paid to make that call. Let's hope he makes the right decision.


Just wondered.......who would you have captain the team if not Terry?

[Alf]

Just wondered.......who would you have captain the team if not Terry?
he's gonna choose theo walcott

[Chantel]

Just wondered.......who would you have captain the team if not Terry?

Frank Lampard/ Steven Gerrard

[rapunza1977]

this is my point, one has been done for assult and the other has had affairs as well as sex tapes, who out there has not scandal within the England team........

[Chantel]

this is my point, one has been done for assult and the other has had affairs as well as sex tapes, who out there has not scandal within the England team........

Exactly

[minder_fan_87]

Disagree that it's a personal issue! The effectiveness of his job relies on more than just his footballing skills. It also relies on him being able to gain a certain amount of respect from the public, other footballers and management. Lack of respect and bad morale between the players is extremely detrimental to his position. His effectiveness as a captain/manager is dependent upon his ability to gain respect and that has been severely compromised by his behaviour!

what would you know about football your a bird:joker:

[arista]

Didn't he win dad of the year or something? I'd be absolutely mortified if I was the wife or kid.

He is going to get stripped, but at least now that this is in the spotlight, there's less pressure on the team to win.


His Wife and kids
are in Dubai
away from this Circus.

[Angus]

he's gonna choose theo walcott

Not beyond the realms of possibility, but could be considered too young. He'll be 21 next month and would beat Bobby Moore who,at 22 years old, currently still holds the records as the youngest ever England captain in 1963.
Walcott is a talented player and seems so far untainted by the sleaze and seediness with which the game is increasingly being associated.

[arista]

Great Debate on ITV1 now

[Angus]

Great Debate on ITV1 now

Missed it - what was the consensus?

[arista]

Missed it - what was the consensus?


It was on the AT show.
Ken Livingston , Angry Woman
and a Football Expert.

The Woman was very angry
saying its all Mens Clubs
they get away with it
she wants him stripped of his job title.
She had a Fire going.


You can watch again on the ITV site.
It was at half way through the hour.

http://www.itv.com/Lifestyle/TheAlanTitchmarshShow/default.html

That is yesterdays show
so it should go on the site tomorrow.

[arista]

Now being debated Live on Studio Five
Ch5.

[Novo]

She is suppose to have slept with another chelsea player

[WOMBAI]

what would you know about football your a bird:joker:

And your a sexist halfwit - whose opinion doesn't count for much on any subject! :joker:

[Shasown]

Lies? The judge ruled over it and decided to allow the papers to print it. What more do you need?

I would get your facts right before you gob off so strongly on something you know very little about. I am so glad you are so sure of your facts, which incidentally even the media isnt.

Terry had an injunction already about the story being broken, he applied for an extension of the injunction, the judge ruled that she would not let the injunction be extended because she believed terry wanted to protect his business(good name with his sponsors) as opposed to wanting genuine privacy, (The legal arguement put forward by Terry's legal team was he may lose the trust of his sponsors etc, they didnt mention privacy of either John Terry or Vanessa.) She said that the fact that the case was about commercial sponsorship agreements and reputation meant the injunction had to fail.

The judge did not rule that there was any truth in the story, simply that newspapers etc could name names involved on the story.

You will of course notice that all the media are still currently using the word "alleged", why is that? Because the story is supposed to have been told to reporters by one of Vanessa's friends, there is no real proof it has occured it is alleged by an unnamed source to be true.

If Vanessa and John had any sense they would keep their mouths shut, and neither admit it or deny it, take all the flak and then start hitting home with lawsuits for loss of earnings, defamation etc.

Angus, Setanta nice to see you heading up the lynch party. What's your opinion of witches? If they float they are a witch, if they drown, well thats just tough aint it.

[Shasown]

Both him and vinnie jones should be on a building site or in a white van with a copy of the SUN on the dashboard..they are the dregs of society and everything that is wrong with this country...uneducated yobs

LOL my oh my we are the snob arent we?

[Angus]

I would get your facts right before you gob off so strongly on something you know very little about. I am so glad you are so sure of your facts, which incidentally even the media isnt.

Terry had an injunction already about the story being broken, he applied for an extension of the injunction, the judge ruled that she would not let the injunction be extended because she believed terry wanted to protect his business(good name with his sponsors) as opposed to wanting genuine privacy, (The legal arguement put forward by Terry's legal team was he may lose the trust of his sponsors etc, they didnt mention privacy of either John Terry or Vanessa.) She said that the fact that the case was about commercial sponsorship agreements and reputation meant the injunction had to fail.

The judge did not rule that there was any truth in the story, simply that newspapers etc could name names involved on the story.

You will of course notice that all the media are still currently using the word "alleged", why is that? Because the story is supposed to have been told to reporters by one of Vanessa's friends, there is no real proof it has occured it is alleged by an unnamed source to be true.

If Vanessa and John had any sense they would keep their mouths shut, and neither admit it or deny it, take all the flak and then start hitting home with lawsuits for loss of earnings, defamation etc.

Angus, Setanta nice to see you heading up the lynch party. What's your opinion of witches? If they float they are a witch, if they drown, well thats just tough aint it.


Well they haven't kept their mouths shut, they haven't denied it, and so we must assume the allegations are true. Therefore JT has brought the game into disrepute, but in this case he is the Captain and he should do the decent thing and resign, but he probably wouldn't recognise decency if it smacked him in the face. I wouldn't hold your breath waiting for him to file any law suits for libel because he would lose. As for the wag (sorry slag) he slept with, who cares what she does, she's not captaining the England Team is she? You might not hold the position in high regard but there are plenty who do. The fact that he paid for her to abort his child won't sit well with Capello, a devout catholic.

[Shasown]

Well they haven't kept their mouths shut, they haven't denied it, and so we must assume the allegations are true. Therefore JT has brought the game into disrepute, but in this case he is the Captain and he should do the decent thing and resign, but he probably wouldn't recognise decency if it smacked him in the face. I wouldn't hold your breath waiting for him to file any law suits for libel because he would lose. As for the wag (sorry slag) he slept with, who cares what she does, she's not captaining the England Team is she? You might not hold the position in high regard but there are plenty who do. The fact that he paid for her to abort his child won't sit well with Capello, a devout catholic.

Again, what proof do you have he paid for her to abort his child?

Oh, it was in a newspaper? Which one? NOTW. The Sun. Yes I notice at previous posts how you deride people for believing things printed in those two. Now suddenly they are 100% correct in all they print?

[Angus]

Again, what proof do you have he paid for her to abort his child?

Oh, it was in a newspaper? Which one? NOTW. The Sun. Yes I notice at previous posts how you deride people for believing things printed in those two. Now suddenly they are 100% correct in all they print?

Excuse me, but you shouldn't make assumptions - It may well be in those papers but I read the Times and the Independent and always have done. Defend him all you like, that's your perogative, but don't pretend the allegations are all lies. The actions of JT since the stories were printed are consistent with those of a guilty man, so I am entitled to draw my own conclusions.

[Shasown]

Excuse me, but you shouldn't make assumptions - It may well be in those papers but I read the Times and the Independent and always have done. Defend him all you like, that's your perogative, but don't pretend the allegations are all lies. The actions of JT since the stories were printed are consistent with those of a guilty man, so I am entitled to draw my own conclusions.

And what pray tell would be the actions of an innocent man in the same circumstances.

I am not saying the allegations are unfounded, part truths or even the full truth, what I am saying until the full facts are known we shouldnt condemn him or her just yet. There may be some truth in the allegations, they may even turn out to be only part of the whole story. But sorry I was taught that a man is innocent till proven guilty.

[Angus]

The essential facts are that he committed adultery with the ex gf of a good friend of his, a team member, also the mother of said team member's child. Having been caught out, he tries to get an injunction to prevent the papers printing the story. When that failed and the papers went ahead and printed the story, for someone who was so ready to invoke the law, I didn't see him running to his lawyers to sue for libel - conclusion drawn is that there is no libel because the newspaper reports are basically accurate.

I don't care if Capello decides to keep him in the squad, but I don't want him to retain the captaincy which still means something to some of us, but clearly not enough to Terry who risked his reputation and by default the value of the captaincy for an extra marital affair, and then compounds his immoral behaviour by getting his bit of stuff to have an abortion.

[Shasown]

The essential facts are that he committed adultery with the ex gf of a good friend of his, a team member, also the mother of said team member's child. Having been caught out, he tries to get an injunction to prevent the papers printing the story. When that failed and the papers went ahead and printed the story, for someone who was so ready to invoke the law, I didn't see him running to his lawyers to sue for libel - conclusion drawn is that there is no libel because the newspaper reports are basically accurate.

I don't care if Capello decides to keep him in the squad, but I don't want him to retain the captaincy which still means something to some of us, but clearly not enough to Terry who risked his reputation and by default the value of the captaincy for an extra marital affair, and then compounds his immoral behaviour by getting his bit of stuff to have an abortion.

And of course he told you that, or have you been on the phone to Vanessa?

[Angus]

And of course he told you that, or have you been on the phone to Vanessa?

(sigh) "conclusion drawn is that there is no libel because the newspaper reports are basically accurate". JT's lack of action against the newspapers speaks volumes.
I guess we'll have to agree to differ on this one - I'll be the first to hold my hands up if it's all proven to be a pack of lies, but I'm not holding my breath.

[setanta]

I would get your facts right before you gob off so strongly on something you know very little about. I am so glad you are so sure of your facts, which incidentally even the media isnt.

If Vanessa and John had any sense they would keep their mouths shut, and neither admit it or deny it, take all the flak and then start hitting home with lawsuits for loss of earnings, defamation etc.

Angus, Setanta nice to see you heading up the lynch party. What's your opinion of witches? If they float they are a witch, if they drown, well thats just tough aint it.

Wow, you're a condescending individual, aren't you? They haven't filed lawsuits because I would assume that they know themselves that the reports have been true and, as such, they have no grounds to sue for libel.

Wayne Bridge's reaction speaks volumes for me, as well as Terry's wife heading off with the kids rather than staying put to support her "wronged" husband. If anybody is gobbing off here, it's you.

[Shasown]

Wow, you're a condescending individual, aren't you? They haven't filed lawsuits because I would assume that they know themselves that the reports have been true and, as such, they have no grounds to sue for libel.

Wayne Bridge's reaction speaks volumes for me, as well as Terry's wife heading off with the kids rather than staying put to support her "wronged" husband. If anybody is gobbing off here, it's you.

Condescending? Moi? not at all, but if you want me to be I can be. We had a saying at work "assumption is the mother of all *****ups".

You stated in one of your earlier posts, that Terry should be kicked off the world cup squad, should all footballers with any transgressions also be removed from the squad? Where would you draw the line? Drunk driving, speeding, littering or failing to clean up after their dogs?

You stated the story is true because the judge lifted the injuction, the judge stated in the summing up, the injunction was lifted because the reason for it as given by Terry's legal team was his business may suffer, as this wasnt a reason of privacy the injunction technically had no standing in law.

I didnt realise that you were psychic as well, knowing why they hadnt filed lawsuits. It is probable that some form of sexual liaison occured between the two, as to the full circumstances behind it, who knows, a drunken fumble or one night stand may sway their hands not to litigate.

I wonder how you would feel if because of something non work related in your private life, people starting baying for your head? Well removal from your current position at work.

Surely its a matter for his employers (the FA) to make the decision as to his future in the England team after deliberation having spoken to the concerned individuals? Its a good job they dont often listen to hysterical cries for blood coming from the anally retarded rumour mongers.

When the full story is out in the open, it may not be as morally repugnant to yourself as it currently seems. Then again it may all be true, who knows? He may also eat babies ever other Sunday. I know of one "unnamed source" who says he does.

[setanta]

Condescending? Moi? not at all, but if you want me to be I can be. We had a saying at work "assumption is the mother of all *****ups".

You stated in one of your earlier posts, that Terry should be kicked off the world cup squad, should all footballers with any transgressions also be removed from the squad? Where would you draw the line? Drunk driving, speeding, littering or failing to clean up after their dogs?

You stated the story is true because the judge lifted the injuction, the judge stated in the summing up, the injunction was lifted because the reason for it as given by Terry's legal team was his business may suffer, as this wasnt a reason of privacy the injunction technically had no standing in law.

I didnt realise that you were psychic as well, knowing why they hadnt filed lawsuits. It is probable that some form of sexual liaison occured between the two, as to the full circumstances behind it, who knows, a drunken fumble or one night stand may sway their hands not to litigate.

I wonder how you would feel if because of something non work related in your private life, people starting baying for your head? Well removal from your current position at work.
Surely its a matter for his employers (the FA) to make the decision as to his future in the England team after deliberation having spoken to the concerned individuals? Its a good job they dont often listen to hysterical cries for blood coming from the anally retarded rumour mongers.

When the full story is out in the open, it may not be as morally repugnant to yourself as it currently seems. Then again it may all be true, who knows? He may also eat babies ever other Sunday. I know of one "unnamed source" who says he does.

You refuse to listen to a word I've said and continue to support Terry here.

This isn't just a personal matter by the way - Terry has compromised his position in the England set up by mixing his private and professional life here, which throws into question his ability to lead a team out as captain when he's been shafting the mother of one of his teammates children. Is it so difficult for you to understand the kind of ramifications that could have at the World Cup?

This is, above all else, a situation where the personal indiscretions of the captain of the English football team have filtered into his professional career and it's foolish to assume that Capello can just forget about it and it'll all be just hunky dory.

In the professional world a company boss can be legally sacked for such actions, once a review has been carried out and the damages have been ascertained, which could be great considering the position Terry holds within the England set up. He's a senior player who should lead by example, just like any boss or manager in any other professional field.

And I'd like to say that I never said he should be sacked: I said that I would consider sacking him over it. Totally different dude.

[Shasown]

You refuse to listen to a word I've said and continue to support Terry here.

This isn't just a personal matter by the way - Terry has compromised his position in the England set up by mixing his private and professional life here, which throws into question his ability to lead a team out as captain when he's been shafting the mother of one of his teammates children. Is it so difficult for you to understand the kind of ramifications that could have at the World Cup?



The squad training facility and hotel (Royal Bafokeng Sports Campus) where the team will be staying is for the team only.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/travel/article-1213417/Fabio-Capello-bids-World-Cup-luxury-hotel-house-England-team-South-Africa.html

WAGs will be staying elsewhere. Fabio has banned them from the squad hotel and will only allow the players to meet up with them at certain times during the stay.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1212443/The-look-says-Im-going-world-cup-WAGS-celebrate-England-success.html

So Terry wont really be able to nip along the corridor to nail someone else's missus while they are in the shower.

[setanta]

The squad training facility and hotel (Royal Bafokeng Sports Campus) where the team will be staying is for the team only.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/travel/article-1213417/Fabio-Capello-bids-World-Cup-luxury-hotel-house-England-team-South-Africa.html

WAGs will be staying elsewhere. Fabio has banned them from the squad hotel and will only allow the players to meet up with them at certain times during the stay.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1212443/The-look-says-Im-going-world-cup-WAGS-celebrate-England-success.html

So Terry wont really be able to nip along the corridor to nail someone else's missus while they are in the shower.

Yep, well if the Wags are elsewhere the rest of the players will defo want Terry in the squad so they can keep an eye on him.

You don't get it, do you? How damaging this could be to group morale. That's what I'm talking about when I mention the repercussions that indiscretions like this could have on the whole England set up, especially since Terry holds the captains armband.

[arista]

"especially since Terry holds the captains armband. "

His Non English Boss
appears to back him , though.

[setanta]

"especially since Terry holds the captains armband. "

His Non English Boss
appears to back him , though.

That remains to be seen Arista. Apparently we'll get an announcement on Friday.

[arista]

That remains to be seen Arista. Apparently we'll get an announcement on Friday.


Yes the Final word.

I am sure it will be leaked before.

[arista]

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2010/02/03/article-1248105-0821C9C9000005DC-37_468x581.jpg

Meanwhile his Wife Toni is in Dubai.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1248105/Toni-Terry-looks-downcast-Dubai.html

[Angus]

"especially since Terry holds the captains armband. "

His Non English Boss
appears to back him , though.


Unfortunately, cultural differences could play in JT's favour - after all in Italy its practically compulsory to have extra marital affairs, look at Berlusconi who holds the office of Prime Minister! Let's see which of Capello's two religions - Football or Catholicism - take precedence in informing his decision. Is he a man of principle or not?

[Alf]

sky sports latest news say

john terry will not resign as england captain

[Ramsay]

Poor Wayne Bridge not even first choice with his wife

[arista]

sky sports latest news say

john terry will not resign as england captain


Yes SkyNews
CNN and the
Bloated BBC News

can all confirm he is staying in his job for now.


Well before Friday.

[rapunza1977]

You refuse to listen to a word I've said and continue to support Terry here.

This isn't just a personal matter by the way - Terry has compromised his position in the England set up by mixing his private and professional life here, which throws into question his ability to lead a team out as captain when he's been shafting the mother of one of his teammates children. Is it so difficult for you to understand the kind of ramifications that could have at the World Cup?

This is, above all else, a situation where the personal indiscretions of the captain of the English football team have filtered into his professional career and it's foolish to assume that Capello can just forget about it and it'll all be just hunky dory.

In the professional world a company boss can be legally sacked for such actions, once a review has been carried out and the damages have been ascertained, which could be great considering the position Terry holds within the England set up. He's a senior player who should lead by example, just like any boss or manager in any other professional field.

And I'd like to say that I never said he should be sacked: I said that I would consider sacking him over it. Totally different dude.


Not really though - usually it goes away - as will this. Baying for blood will get us no where.

Even his wife, as I knew ashe would, is considering taking him back as reported.

We do not know the ins and outs. We know something happened. We know there is some sort of scandals but timescales, actual facts we do not know and will not know unless an interview is given so we are all guessing and the papers are loving it - just like the loved the Tiger Woods scandal. Baying for blood, calling for him to be sacked. British public are a joke. Bully this and PC brigade that! It's a private matter, Terry and Bridges will sort it out I am sure and will have to get on with their job as playing for England and Terry will maintain his role as being a good captain!

No need for him to be sacked. He has been an idiot if this is all true, I am sure he will lose enough!!

[rapunza1977]

Yes SkyNews
CNN and the
Bloated BBC News

can all confirm he is staying in his job for now.


Well before Friday.


I genuinely think the England team would want him as captain regardless of personal feelnigs. It has been reported that Lampard / Rooney and Gerrard would be reluctant to take th eplace of him. It's reported that FA will support him - it's a major scandal, he has been a silly boy!

[setanta]

Not really though - usually it goes away - as will this. Baying for blood will get us no where.

Even his wife, as I knew ashe would, is considering taking him back as reported.

We do not know the ins and outs. We know something happened. We know there is some sort of scandals but timescales, actual facts we do not know and will not know unless an interview is given so we are all guessing and the papers are loving it - just like the loved the Tiger Woods scandal. Baying for blood, calling for him to be sacked. British public are a joke. Bully this and PC brigade that! It's a private matter, Terry and Bridges will sort it out I am sure and will have to get on with their job as playing for England and Terry will maintain his role as being a good captain!

No need for him to be sacked. He has been an idiot if this is all true, I am sure he will lose enough!!

When it's a highly placed individual within a cooperation who has had an indiscretion that could have a negative effect on company morale and work then yes, it is ground for a dismissal. Capello will treat it very professionally and wont make a decision until he's taken account of everyone's feelings and the general mood within camp. Ultimately his choice will be based on what allows his team to continue to run as smoothly as possible - that's all he's interested in.

[rapunza1977]

When it's a highly placed individual within a cooperation who has had an indiscretion that could have a negative effect on company morale and work then yes, it is ground for a dismissal. Capello will treat it very professionally and wont make a decision until he's taken account of everyone's feelings and the general mood within camp. Ultimately his choice will be based on what allows his team to continue to run as smoothly as possible - that's all he's interested in.


Well from experience, when that "highly placed individual" is a key factor in the organisation, then it sometimes goes away..........

[Shasown]

When it's a highly placed individual within a cooperation who has had an indiscretion that could have a negative effect on company morale and work then yes, it is ground for a dismissal. Capello will treat it very professionally and wont make a decision until he's taken account of everyone's feelings and the general mood within camp. Ultimately his choice will be based on what allows his team to continue to run as smoothly as possible - that's all he's interested in.


Thing that gets is me how come no one is baying for Prince Charles' head on a stick? He got married to that Diane woman and was still giving the odd royal portion to his old pal Camilla, surely if you think John Terry is a bit naughty for doing what it is he is alleged to have done, then Charlie boy is really naughty for doing what he actually did do, shouldnt you be calling consistantly for Charles to be taken out of the line of succession.

Lets face it, the UK is simply a large cooperation(eh?) isnt it? And seeing him get away with it, will certainly have a negative effect on anyone not getting away with it.

[Angus]

Thing that gets is me how come no one is baying for Prince Charles' head on a stick? He got married to that Diane woman and was still giving the odd royal portion to his old pal Camilla, surely if you think John Terry is a bit naughty for doing what it is he is alleged to have done, then Charlie boy is really naughty for doing what he actually did do, shouldnt you be calling consistantly for Charles to be taken out of the line of succession.

Lets face it, the UK is simply a large cooperation(eh?) isnt it? And seeing him get away with it, will certainly have a negative effect on anyone not getting away with it.

If I recall correctly, there was and is ongoing debate about this very point. I doubt Charles will ever suceed to the throne, that misfortune will probably befall his son. There are many instances where people should step down from high office, Gordon Brown being a case in point, but insist on clinging on for dear life.

Your argument is a typical deflection of blame tactic used by wrongdoers when caught in the act. If you want to start a thread on Charles' right to succeed, be my guest, but this is a post about TERRY who, like Brown, clings to his status of Captain like a limpet, not least because it brings him in £500,000 in sponsorship deals alone which would vanish into thin air if he were to lose the captaincy.

Do you recall JT's statements when he was made Captain? He was deeply honoured to hold such a prestigious position in football, and was determined to live up to the responsibilities that went with it. ALL footballers are well aware that they are looked up to by kids who aspire to be like them, so YES their behaviour DOES matter, and that of the CAPTAIN should be impeccable. In particular his complete betrayal of a best friend and team mate is pretty despicable ,was hardly conducive to team relations and harmony,and was always going to cause frictions and upset within the team. What was he thinking?

[setanta]

I'm Irish so the monarchy doesn't mean much to me at all and I don't really see the relevence it has to this discussion.

[Shasown]

I'm Irish so the monarchy doesn't mean much to me at all and I don't really see the relevence it has to this discussion.

But the captainacy of the England World Cup Squad does? Go figure.

[setanta]

But the captainacy of the England World Cup Squad does? Go figure.

He's had to work for that honour and is basically an elected respresentative. He wasn't born a captain.

[Shasown]

He's had to work for that honour and is basically an elected respresentative. He wasn't born a captain.

So basically what you are saying is he should be removed from his position as captain and possibly thrown out of the World Cup Squad because of allegations that have appeared in newspapers. Regardless of the real truth behind the allegations

I think the correct term is Trial by Tabloid. Thank goodness the legal system actually relies on evidential proof before deciding guilt.

[setanta]

So basically what you are saying is he should be removed from his position as captain and possibly thrown out of the World Cup Squad because of allegations that have appeared in newspapers. Regardless of the real truth behind the allegations

I think the correct term is Trial by Tabloid. Thank goodness the legal system actually relies on evidential proof before deciding guilt.

Not at all. As I've stated before, Capello will take his time to review and assess the damage that these stories have had on the morale of his team, taking time to converse with all parties involved. His only concern is that of the team and how he can continue to have it functioning effectively. If that means Terry has to go, he has to go. Sure we'll see tomorrow.

[rapunza1977]

I see the tabloids now are making up other tosh about him renting his box out at wembley for 4 grand! They really are baying for blood on this one. A joke - trial by media indeed!!

[arista]

SkyNews confirms Terry is no longer in the England Captain Job.

So Sacked he is.

Shocker .

[NettoSuperstar!]

Good call!... hows he going to a lead a team of men who dont trust or respect him anymore?

He'll have to earn that all back

[arista]

Good call!... hows he going to a lead a team of men who dont trust or respect him anymore?

He'll have to earn that all back


But many say he must stay in that Job.

Andy on here will be Shocked.

[30stone]

Stupid desicion.

Who will get it now?

Probably gerrard..

No one is as good leader no one commands people better on that pitch than terry..

[setanta]

SkyNews confirms Terry is no longer in the England Captain Job.

So Sacked he is.

Shocker .

Don't think it's a shocker at all to be honest with you. Always thought he'd lose the captaincy but was curious to see if he'd be dropped altogether.

[NettoSuperstar!]

Stupid desicion.

Who will get it now?

Probably gerrard..

No one is as good leader no one commands people better on that pitch than terry..

Was...he lost the respect now

[arista]

Stupid desicion.

Who will get it now?

Probably gerrard..

No one is as good leader no one commands people better on that pitch than terry..


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1248816/John-Terry-sacked-England-Captain-showdown-manager-Fabio-Capello.html


It's the Underground Car Park Battle that did it.

[arista]

Was...he lost the respect now


MissNetto

Pouring Salt on the Open Wound.




Sign Of The Times.

[Alf]

fabio cracked under the pressure of the media
there's no point in taking terry to the world cup now, his manager has just proven he has no trust in him, terry's main stregnth is his leadership skills, you take that away from him, you take away his all game and what he's about.

[NettoSuperstar!]

MissNetto

Pouring Salt on the Open Wound.




Sign Of The Times.

He bought it all on hiself silly man

[arista]

He bought it all on hiself silly man



There was a Hot Lady in there

[setanta]

fabio cracked under the pressure of the media
there's no point in taking terry to the world cup now, his manager has just proven he has no trust in him, terry's main stregnth is his leadership skills, you take that away from him, you take away his all game and what he's about.

Capello isn't the kind of person to listen to anything the media tells him and it's foolish to think that his decision was swayed by the tabloids. He's always done things his own way.

[Crimson Dynamo]

The manager knows that Terry will not bring him the WC. Bravo to the manager who has some testicalios

[Crimson Dynamo]

ferdinand in

[Angus]

SkyNews confirms Terry is no longer in the England Captain Job.

So Sacked he is.

Shocker .

Good call by Capello who turns out to be a man of principle:thumbs: (I guessed the catholic side of him would dictate his decision).
Terry should have done the honourable thing and resigned immediately the story broke, but honour isn't in his vocabulary is it?

[Angus]

I see the tabloids now are making up other tosh about him renting his box out at wembley for 4 grand! They really are baying for blood on this one. A joke - trial by media indeed!!

Oh perlease, don't play the "its all media lies" card. There is documentary evidence that he tried to rent out his wembley box. Terry should have jumped before he was pushed, but self interest kept him clinging to the captaincy - now he's lost half a million in sponsorship deals. GOOD.

[NettoSuperstar!]

There was a Hot Lady in there

No excuse...his good lady wife is hot! He shagged his team mates girlfriend and hes ****ed his childrens lives up, that will stay with them forever...naughty naughty JT:nono:

[WOMBAI]

He got what he deserved!

[bananarama]

Let him stick it up who he wants, its none of our business. What ever affairs ordinary people have never affects their job, so why should his job be affected just because he's famous?


I agree with that too.. Although I don't agree with your view point on Katia from CBBB but that's another debate in which agreeing to disagree can be the only outcome.....

People go on about him being a role model...I doubt that title and requirement is in his contract so should have no bearing at all.........It's up to parents to talk to their kids about moral behavour and famouse people......The famouse as long as they do their job should be judged only on what they do not on their private life....... Even though I have to call him everything that women usually get called.......

[Angus]

I agree with that too.. Although I don't agree with your view point on Katia from CBBB but that's another debate in which agreeing to disagree can be the only outcome.....

People go on about him being a role model...I doubt that title and requirement is in his contract so should have no bearing at all.........It's up to parents to talk to their kids about moral behavour and famouse people......The famouse as long as they do their job should be judged only on what they do not on their private life....... Even though I have to call him everything that women usually get called.......

That is a disingenuous view since, like it or not, footballers and other sportsmen ARE role models that children look up to and want to emulate, and who inspire others. Responsibiity for one's own behaviour comes with the job, and Terry's statements about how when he accepted the armband made it clear he was well aware of this. A lot of the people supporting Terry seem to have missed the salient point that he betrayed a team mate - ex girlfriend or not she is the mother of Bridge's child and was a good friend of Terry's wife. Team harmony and cohesion are a big part of Terry's job, and he didn't think about that when he was shagging the ex gf. She is just as bad but then she wasn't captain was she? And now we have the prospect of further revelations in the papers tomorrow - with photos for those of you still protesting "its all lies". If you don't think what he has done is reprehensibe it just goes to show how low football has sunk in the past two decades - no honour, no decency, no sportsmanship at all.

The requirement to be a captain who leads by example and sets high standards IS a requirement of the job, and Terry was well aware of that.

He is now desperate to get the captaincy back (THAT ain't going to happen) but probably only because he's lost a load of sponsorship money for being Captain! It''s certainly NOT because he gives a stuff about the honour and prestige of the captaincy that was conferred on him and the status of which he has dragged through the mud.

There now appears to be some doubt he will even go to South Africa, once the red tops hit the mat tomorrow morning. Can you imagine the chants etc everywhere he goes now, it is so unfair to the other players. If our chances are now screwed up in the WC because of this mess - the blame lies squarely at the feet of a dishonourable and cowardly man, John Terry.

[WOMBAI]

That is a disingenuous view since, like it or not, footballers and other sportsmen ARE role models that children look up to and want to emulate, and who inspire others. Responsibiity for one's own behaviour comes with the job, and Terry's statements about how when he accepted the armband made it clear he was well aware of this. A lot of the people supporting Terry seem to have missed the salient point that he betrayed a team mate - ex girlfriend or not she is the mother of Bridge's child and was a good friend of Terry's wife. Team harmony and cohesion are a big part of Terry's job, and he didn't think about that when he was shagging the ex gf. She is just as bad but then she wasn't captain was she? And now we have the prospect of further revelations in the papers tomorrow - with photos for those of you still protesting "its all lies". If you don't think what he has done is reprehensibe it just goes to show how low football has sunk in the past two decades - no honour, no decency, no sportsmanship at all.

The requirement to be a captain who leads by example and sets high standards IS a requirement of the job, and Terry was well aware of that.

He is now desperate to get the captaincy back (THAT ain't going to happen) but probably only because he's lost a load of sponsorship money for being Captain! It''s certainly NOT because he gives a stuff about the honour and prestige of the captaincy that was conferred on him and the status of which he has dragged through the mud.

There now appears to be some doubt he will even go to South Africa, once the red tops hit the mat tomorrow morning. Can you imagine the chants etc everywhere he goes now, it is so unfair to the other players. If our chances are now screwed up in the WC because of this mess - the blame lies squarely at the feet of a dishonourable and cowardly man, John Terry.

Good post! :thumbs:

[Tom4784]

It's ridiculous that he's been sacked really, he's obviously the best man for the job and he's only gone because of useless parents bitching about the non-existent effects he'll have on their *****ed up children. Footballers, celebrities and the media aren't responsible for raising your children and if they can't tell that cheating ain't right by themselves sorry but you've *****ed up majorly and no amount of scapegoating of John Terry is gonna fix it.

He's a footballer at the end of the day that's all we should care about, would you stop shopping at a shop because the owner had an affair? Would you stop going to a hairdresser because he had an affair? You wouldn't so why is everyone being so contradictory here?

I reject the whole idea of role models, you can't model your life on someone else because no one is perfect and plus it's such a messed up ideal at a basic level. I can understand admiring someone on a proffessional level but expecting them to lead their life with no mistakes is *****ed up.

I'd love to know who's gonna take over really, will it be prostitute loving Rooney? how about that pair of sex tape stars that is Gerrard and Ferdinand? All the team's done wrong so anyone who takes his place for me will be a contradictory decision.

Either way shaking up the team like that, we can forget about the world cup again. Thanks interfering blame shifting parents and trashy tabloids!

[Jessica.]

I still don't know what he did :laugh2:

[30stone]

Great post Dezzy.

[Crimson Dynamo]

It's ridiculous that he's been sacked really, he's obviously the best man for the job and he's only gone because of useless parents bitching about the non-existent effects he'll have on their *****ed up children. Footballers, celebrities and the media aren't responsible for raising your children and if they can't tell that cheating ain't right by themselves sorry but you've *****ed up majorly and no amount of scapegoating of John Terry is gonna fix it.

He's a footballer at the end of the day that's all we should care about, would you stop shopping at a shop because the owner had an affair? Would you stop going to a hairdresser because he had an affair? You wouldn't so why is everyone being so contradictory here?

I reject the whole idea of role models, you can't model your life on someone else because no one is perfect and plus it's such a messed up ideal at a basic level. I can understand admiring someone on a proffessional level but expecting them to lead their life with no mistakes is *****ed up.

I'd love to know who's gonna take over really, will it be prostitute loving Rooney? how about that pair of sex tape stars that is Gerrard and Ferdinand? All the team's done wrong so anyone who takes his place for me will be a contradictory decision.

Either way shaking up the team like that, we can forget about the world cup again. Thanks interfering blame shifting parents and trashy tabloids!


Managers decision is final. Are you saying that you now know better than Capello?

[Stacey.]

:bored: he should still be the England Captain!

[Tom4784]

Managers decision is final. Are you saying that you now know better than Capello?

I'm saying that he probably didn't have much of a choice down to pressure from the media. All this week the pros (who know much more about football then any of us really) have all been saying that he should remain the captain because he is the best man for the job.

[Angus]

It's ridiculous that he's been sacked really, he's obviously the best man for the job and he's only gone because of useless parents bitching about the non-existent effects he'll have on their *****ed up children. Footballers, celebrities and the media aren't responsible for raising your children and if they can't tell that cheating ain't right by themselves sorry but you've *****ed up majorly and no amount of scapegoating of John Terry is gonna fix it.

He's a footballer at the end of the day that's all we should care about, would you stop shopping at a shop because the owner had an affair? Would you stop going to a hairdresser because he had an affair? You wouldn't so why is everyone being so contradictory here?

I reject the whole idea of role models, you can't model your life on someone else because no one is perfect and plus it's such a messed up ideal at a basic level. I can understand admiring someone on a proffessional level but expecting them to lead their life with no mistakes is *****ed up.

I'd love to know who's gonna take over really, will it be prostitute loving Rooney? how about that pair of sex tape stars that is Gerrard and Ferdinand? All the team's done wrong so anyone who takes his place for me will be a contradictory decision.

Either way shaking up the team like that, we can forget about the world cup again. Thanks interfering blame shifting parents and trashy tabloids!

It's not just about Terry being unable to keep his todger in his pants, he was renting out his wembley box at £4,000 a time and doing unauthorised tours of Chelsea for £10,000, so he's also DISHONEST as well as IMMORAL and I'm
absolutely delighted he's been stripped of the captaincy. No doubt he disclosed to Capello all the other crap he's been up to before it hits the headlines tomorrow, and that's why it only took Capello 12 minutes to strip him of the armband. As far as I'm aware Ferdinand has not slept with any gfs, wives or ex gfs of his team mates, especially any who are mother's of a team mate's child!

[Crimson Dynamo]

I'm saying that he probably didn't have much of a choice down to pressure from the media. All this week the pros (who know much more about football then any of us really) have all been saying that he should remain the captain because he is the best man for the job.

"All this week the pros (who know much more about football then any of us really"


get real. what "pros" ? and they do not know the game better, they are in the game an often cant see past their own noses.

[Alf]

I still don't know what he did :laugh2:
he had sex with a woman.

[Crimson Dynamo]

he had sex with a woman.


sex with a team mates woman

[setanta]

I'm saying that he probably didn't have much of a choice down to pressure from the media. All this week the pros (who know much more about football then any of us really) have all been saying that he should remain the captain because he is the best man for the job.

Capello doesn't operate that way Dezzy. He never allows anything to influence his decisions. You can see that from his past record as a manager... stubburn mule who does it his way so no, this has literally nothing to do with the media coverage.

[Crimson Dynamo]

and dont forget for media read us

[Alf]

sex with a team mates woman
well i was right then, he had sex with a woman

[Crimson Dynamo]

well i was right then, he had sex with a woman

All football players have sex with a woman

[Alf]

All football players have sex with a woman
i know, what's the big deal?

[Crimson Dynamo]

i know, what's the big deal?

I guess it is hard to grasp until you yourself manage to have sex with a woman. wont be long now.

[Alf]

I guess it is hard to grasp until you yourself manage to have sex with a woman. wont be long now.
i do hope your right

[Shasown]

All football players have sex with a woman

All football players are straight? Is that a requirement?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1078698/Ex-player-claims-12-Premiership-football-players-gay-afraid-come-out.html

[arista]

http://news.sky.com/sky-news/content/StaticFile/jpg/2010/Feb/Week1/15544042.jpg


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http://news.sky.com/sky-news/content/StaticFile/jpg/2010/Feb/Week1/15544041.jpg

Busy Sunday
for Terry.

[atieah2009]

http://news.sky.com/sky-news/content/StaticFile/jpg/2010/Feb/Week1/15544042.jpg


http://news.sky.com/sky-news/content/StaticFile/jpg/2010/Feb/Week1/15544044.jpg


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Busy Sunday
for Terry.

Thank god the papers are slaughtering him! Arista for president!

[Tom4784]

I still don't care really, What John Terry gets upto off the pitch doesn't interest me, as long as he keeps scoring goals I couldn't give a ***** if he's scoring off the pitch. If he scores a vital goal in the World Cup though everyone will adore him though and I'll just laugh.

I'm surprised the 'Someone think of the Children!' Brigrade hasn't slammed Ferdinand since he's the new captain, I guess Sex Tapes and threesomes are okay with them. :laugh:

[Shasown]

I still don't care really, What John Terry gets upto off the pitch doesn't interest me, as long as he keeps scoring goals I couldn't give a ***** if he's scoring off the pitch. If he scores a vital goal in the World Cup though everyone will adore him though and I'll just laugh.

I'm surprised the 'Someone think of the Children!' Brigrade hasn't slammed Ferdinand since he's the new captain, I guess Sex Tapes and threesomes are okay with them. :laugh:

Yeah no mentions of roastings for Ferdinand!

Love the front of the Sunday Mirror. VANESSA'S STORY, then at the bottom in smaller type "Her pals speak out". Does that mean its not her tell her story?

[Stacey.]

what he does outside football, is irrevelant - hes a great team captain! :)
He should still be Englands Captain!
so what, if he went off with some girl? :conf2:
Its not only him thats cheated, its also, the girl he was getting off with.
but, he gets all the blame :rolleyes:

[NettoSuperstar!]

what he does outside football, is irrevelant - hes a great team captain! :)
He should still be Englands Captain!
so what, if he went off with some girl? :conf2:
Its not only him thats cheated, its also, the girl he was getting off with.
but, he gets all the blame :rolleyes:

It wasnt just some girl it was his team mate and friends girl. He has children he shouldnt be messin with other girls when hes married and has children...so what?? Like its ok to do that! JeeZ whats wrong with society nowadays? tut tut

[arista]

It wasnt just some girl it was his team mate and friends girl. He has children he shouldnt be messin with other girls when hes married and has children...so what?? Like its ok to do that! JeeZ whats wrong with society nowadays? tut tut




It OK MissNetto

The Shareholders took care of him.

[Shasown]

It wasnt just some girl it was his team mate and friends girl. He has children he shouldnt be messin with other girls when hes married and has children...so what?? Like its ok to do that! JeeZ whats wrong with society nowadays? tut tut

I think you missed Stacey's point completely there. Doesnt it take two to tango?

[Tom4784]

If he scores some vital goals at the world cup he can shag all the wives in England for all I care.

[NettoSuperstar!]

I think you missed Stacey's point completely there. Doesnt it take two to tango?

and that makes it right??

[Stacey.]

It wasnt just some girl it was his team mate and friends girl. He has children he shouldnt be messin with other girls when hes married and has children...so what?? Like its ok to do that! JeeZ whats wrong with society nowadays? tut tut

Nahh.
like, it takes 2 people to have an affair.
It wasnt all his fault!
if she didnt want it, then why didnt she stop it? :shrug:

[Tom4784]

He's a footballer at the end of the day, we shouldn't care what he gets upto off the pitch, I made the same point a few posts back but you wouldn't stop shopping at a shop if you heard the owner was cheating because you wouldn't care. That role Model rubbish doesn't float either.

[Crimson Dynamo]

He's a footballer at the end of the day, we shouldn't care what he gets upto off the pitch, I made the same point a few posts back but you wouldn't stop shopping at a shop if you heard the owner was cheating because you wouldn't care. That role Model rubbish doesn't float either.

he is idolised and copied by millions of children


wtf are you on about?

[Tom4784]

he is idolised and copied by millions of children


wtf are you on about?

If Children don't know what he does off the pitch is wrong then the parents have done something incredibly wrong, Stop expecting the media to raise your kids and teach them right from wrong yourself. 'Oh John Terry's gonna inspire my kid to do bad' 'Manhunt turned my kid into a killer' 'This film's currupted my child' SHUT THE ***** UP PARENTS OF THE WORLD. I can't stand scapegoating, If a kid does wrong then chances are it's the parent's fault for *****ing them up not anybody else's so that POS excuse can get out.