Aston Villa

[King Gizzard]

Because I want a thread to go wild if we win and sad if we lose and generally talk to myself, and maybe gather some new fans on TiBB ;)


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Aston Villa Football Club (pronounced /ˈæstən ˈvɪlə/) (also known as The Villa, Villa and The Villans) is an English professional football club based in Aston, Birmingham, who play in the Premier League. The club was founded in 1874 and have played at their current home ground, Villa Park, since 1897. Aston Villa were founder members of The Football League in 1888. They were also founder members of the Premier League in 1992. The club was floated by the previous owner and chairman Doug Ellis, but in 2006 full control of the club was acquired by Randy Lerner.

They are one of the oldest and most successful football clubs in England, having won the First Division Championship seven times and the FA Cup seven times. Villa also won the 1981–82 European Cup, one of only four English clubs to win what is now the UEFA Champions League. Aston Villa has the fourth highest total of major honours won by an English club.

[andyman]

The amazing well worth the licence fee BBC now showing the build up.. Or watch greedy dirty *******ing SKY at 2:45pm.. Greedy SKY! Vile.

[King Gizzard]

I know, cant believe theyve only got 15 mins before the game on sky! watching bbc

[andyman]

Villa need to win for the greatness of humanity and the people of goodness..

Good v Evil

[King Gizzard]

The Lions vs the Devils

[andyman]

BBC always do a good cup final. :)

... Lets hope the Fifa World Cup never goes to Greedy Sky.

[andyman]

Little kids that support Man Utd really really really bug me..

[King Gizzard]

http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2007/03_03/MartinONeillG0104_468x351.jpg

[King Gizzard]

Rooneys only on the bench!!

[andyman]

Rooney will come on during the 2nd half.. :shocked: Villa better be ready for that..

[andyman]

I don't remember him..

[andyman]

Latest
Aston Villa 1 - 0 Man Utd
(Milner.. Pen) 5

[Alf]

Latest
Aston Villa 1 - 0 Man Utd
(Milner.. Pen) 5
not anymore 1-1 mighty mike

[King Gizzard]

****ing dunne what the hell are you playing at

[andyman]

Still think Owen is invalid and would sell his mother to the Taliban for money..

[King Gizzard]

ref you inconsistant bias twat!

[andyman]

Aye, another dk head ref..

[King Gizzard]

hes gotta book someone every time someone badly tackles now he done downing!

that means carrick and rafael should have a card

[andyman]

Villa should have done better..

[andyman]

Villa looking weak upfront, empty ideas near the box..

[andyman]

What a fk up Owen is.. Never been the same since 2004.

[andyman]

Everton did beat Man Utd 3-1 and that was a good Utd side.. They can be beaten even with Rooney on the pitch.

[andyman]

Lol! .. And the gods smile down on Villa.

[King Gizzard]

Phil Dowd should not be reffing this game

[andyman]

True, a good ref issues less cards..

[30stone]

Bummer.

[andyman]

Dk head Utd strike again.. Lets see if Rooney keeps it up during the World Cup.

[30stone]

If rooney fails in the world cup i will be pissed after him doing so well.

[King Gizzard]

I can't not like rooney

just dont like phil dowd lol

[Ramsay]

Always had a soft spot for Villa

[bbfan1991]

Live about an hour away from the Villa ground:D.

[King Gizzard]

Come on you Villa boys

[King Gizzard]

Yippkiay, Yippykiyooooooooooo

Holte Enders in the sky

[King Gizzard]

WEMBLEY WEMBLEY

were the famous Aston villa and were going to WEMBLEY

[King Gizzard]

John carewww carewwww

hes bigger than me and you


hes gonna score one or two

john carew carew

[bbfan1991]

Villa for the FA Cup hopefully!:thumbs:;):).

[King Gizzard]

http://i31.tinypic.com/2iaxws4.jpg

[bbfan1991]

Nath get yourself a Villa userbar lmao:D.

My local paper will be buzzing tomorrow about the match:).

[30stone]

Think you can take Chelsea?

They look scarily dominant after their recent loss today.

Never looked like losing.

[30stone]

Villa Draw Chelsea!!! Semi Final!!!

[King Gizzard]

There goes another cup hope go right down the drain

[30stone]

You were always going to have to.

If you beat them it will be good if you get portsmouth in the final.


Would love to see fulham win the trophy.

[bbfan1991]

There goes another cup hope go right down the drain

Keep the faith;), you've beat Chelsea, Liverpool and United this season in the league so who knows in the cup?:D.

http://www.futbolwallpapers.com/userbars/aston-villa-userbar.png

[King Gizzard]

Keep the faith;), you've beat Chelsea, Liverpool and United this season in the league so who knows in the cup?:D.

http://www.futbolwallpapers.com/userbars/aston-villa-userbar.png


use to have that exact userbar in my sig for ages lol, i think everyone knows im a villa fan now though :)

[bbfan1991]

use to have that exact userbar in my sig for ages lol, i think everyone knows im a villa fan now though :)

Yeah but you can show it off and be proud:cool:;):p.

[King Gizzard]

What a great thread

[Ramsay]

I would make a Spurs one
efffort tho

[King Gizzard]

and its only marcjswp and you that support them..and he hasnt been on in yonks :joker:

[King Gizzard]

1-0

Carew

[30stone]

Wow 2 - 1 down now.

Milner own goal.

[30stone]

Villa are poised to reward midfield star James Milner with a money-spinning new contract worth an estimated £12m.

The midfield star looks set to land a new four-year deal before jetting to the World Cup with England.

And reports this morning claimed the 24-year-old weekly pay packet could grow from £45,000 per week at present to around £65,000, putting him on a par with the club’s highest earners.

Boss Martin O’Neill said: “I said to James that regardless of the England situation, we would sit down in the summer.

“He has two years left, but it would be important that we do something if we can. He has been absolutely fantastic.

“Without doubt he’s enjoying his football. Some of his performances have been electrifying. Now he’s reached double figures from midfield which is great.

“Since he has moved into the centre, it has thrust him to the forefront and he has excelled.

“I have phenomenal regard for Frank Lampard and Steven Gerrard, but James is playing as well as anybody right now.”

Meanwhile, O’Neill has warned forgotten man Curtis Davies he will have to bide his time and wait for an opportunity.

The defender has made just one appearance – as a second-half substitute against Brighton – since his return from a shoulder injury in January and has failed to make the bench for Villa’s last four games.

Boss Martin O’Neill admits the form of Richard Dunne and James Collins at the heart of the defence has made Davies’ job of forcing his way back in even harder.

And he says the 25-year-old former Albion skipper must stay patient – and seize his chance when it comes along.

“Curtis has been out of action now really since the end of August,” said O’Neill. “He’s played a couple of reserve games.

“When you consider here how well Luke (Young) has done for us and how unfortunate he is not to be in the team that might tell you something. I don’t think Curtis will be an issue when we get him fully fit, it’s a matter of him getting that opportunity. When you get it you have to grasp it.”

[30stone]

Carew goal saves villa.

2 - 2

[30stone]

Villa get a draw 2 - 2 full time.

[King Gizzard]

:)

[bbfan1991]

Manchester City will offer £20million plus a choice of players to lure James Milner from Aston Villa.

City boss Roberto Mancini is so desperate to tie up the England midfielder that he is preparing to go all out in negotiations.

He will leave the £20million Villa have already refused on the table but will also let Martin O’Neill take his pick of one of four players.

England internationals Micah Richards and Shaun Wright Phillips, under-21 star Nedum Onuoha and Stephen Ireland will be offered on top of the cash to tempt O’Neill to give up the fight for his prized player.

However O’Neill is determined to do everything he can to repel City’s advances and is desperate not to lose his Milner to City.

Villa chiefs will meet Milner before the World Cup in a desperate bid to keep him.

Milner is tempted by a possible switch to Eastlands where he could expect to double his £45,000-a-week wages.

But Villa haven’t given up on keeping Milner on a new lucrative contract.

And chief executive Paul Faulkner has agreed to hold talks with Milner and his PFA representatives before the star jets to South Africa on June 2.

Villa owner Randy Lerner and boss Martin O’Neill may attend the talks if they are in the country on either May 31 or June 1 when Milner is free before flying out on international duty.

He is not likely to agree or sign a new Villa contract before the World Cup but Villa hope a verbal agreement could be followed by formal signing when he returns from South Africa.

[Mystic Mock]

boooooooooooooooooo birmingham city kick villas as any day of the week:joker:.

but birmingham city rule in my opinion.

[King Gizzard]

Fellow Villa fans (which is none) we are in for a very tough season..

[bbfan1991]

Aston Villa have held talks with England international James Milner after he returned to the club on Monday for training.

The 24-year-old has been tipped to join Manchester City this summer with the ambitious club keen to land to talented midfielder.

Milner had been given an extended period off by Villa this summer after participating in the World Cup finals in South Africa.

The ex-Newcastle and Leeds man is believed to want a move to City, but until they match Villa's asking price he will stay at the club.

Villa have now held amicable talks with Milner and confirmed he will travel with them ahead of this weekend's Guadiana Cup.

Talks
"James Milner trained with the rest of the Villa squad (Monday) at Bodymoor Heath," read a Villa statement.

"He and the manager along with the chief executive Paul Faulkner and the player's representative Matthew Buck had an amicable conversation.

"While James will not play in (Tuesday's game) against Walsall he will fly with the squad to Portugal on Wednesday ahead of the Guadiana Cup, in which Villa will compete with Benfica and Feyenoord this weekend."

[bbfan1991]

Bump.. so it looks like Milner is going, Marc Albrighton is doing well and is ready for the first team so is Ciaran Clark.

Now both clubs need to get the deal sorted plus Ireland and then MON can get looking for new players quickly:p.

[King Gizzard]

you secretly love villa and hate wba/man u

[bbfan1991]

you secretly love villa and hate wba/man u

I'm just nosey:joker:, plus my local paper is always full of Villa gossip so it's impossible to avoid.

I like that Weimann guy the Austrian striker, impressive on FIFA too;).

[King Gizzard]

McGeady is off to Spartak..kind of glad we didn't go for him.

[bbfan1991]

McGeady is off to Spartak..kind of glad we didn't go for him.

Thats a shame, who else are Villa linked with?:).

[King Gizzard]

Ireland and Keane basically

Don't think we will sign anyone else, Randy has shut his wallet on investing anymore, we are a sell to buy club now (Rightly so, we've wasted so much money on players like Harewood, Shorey, Reo-coker, Davies)

[bbfan1991]

Ireland and Keane basically

Don't think we will sign anyone else, Randy has shut his wallet on investing anymore, we are a sell to buy club now (Rightly so, we've wasted so much money on players like Harewood, Shorey, Reo-coker, Davies)

:shocked: Basically this season could be a disaster.

[King Gizzard]

Houllier finally appointed manager.

[bbfan1991]

Houllier finally appointed manager.

Seems like opinion is split which isn't a surprise;).

[King Gizzard]

Give the guy a chance, some fans are disgraceful.

[bbfan1991]

Give the guy a chance, some fans are disgraceful.

I agree, however in football there is no patience:rolleyes:, hope Kevin McDonald is allowed to stay in some capacity like a familiar face on the coaching staff who really knows the club and can help get more out of the players.

[bbfan1991]

Ermm bump for Nate:p.

Who's going to be the next Villa manager?

[King Gizzard]

I think we should recruit some members who don't have a team to support Villa.

[King Gizzard]

and David Moyes.

[bbfan1991]

I think we should recruit some members who don't have a team to support Villa.

I'm in:D.

Good call, however as i've said I personally don't think he'll leave Everton but footie is fickle and loyalty don't matter anymore. Best not believing things till there is proof.

Is there even any transfer news regarding possible arrivals away from the mangerial issue?:)

[bbfan1991]

And oh God top of the page about Milner, seems a while since he left:D.

[King Gizzard]

He wouldn't really be being disloyal to everton, he's been there 9 years and IMO took them as far as he can. He will had cash here. We've already gotten rid of alot of wages. As for who is coming in, probably Ben foster.. Lives near the training ground and too good for the championship

[bbfan1991]

He wouldn't really be being disloyal to everton, he's been there 9 years and IMO took them as far as he can. He will had cash here. We've already gotten rid of alot of wages. As for who is coming in, probably Ben foster.. Lives near the training ground and too good for the championship

It's not about being disloyal, basically Everton are in the same predicament as Villa trying to break into the top 8 and compete for Europe. He'll have his family to consider too but most people in a industry like that are always on the move.

[King Gizzard]

doubling his wages and more would easily make him move his family..

[Locke.]

He can not take Everton any further with the squad he has got and the transfer budget hes got. Really the only possible solution would be to try and get a good price on Rodwell.

[bbfan1991]

doubling his wages and more would easily make him move his family..

He could easily be satisified on what he gets at Everton though? His family would also have to uproot themselves too which is unsettling for them but they'd have to accept it.

[King Gizzard]

Current squad..

Brad Guzan
Andy Marshall
Elliott Parish

Luke Young
Stephen Warnock
Richard Dunne
Ciaran Clark
Habib Beye
Carlos Cuellar
James Collins
Eric Lichaj
Nathan Baker

Stewart Downing
Ashley Young
Marc Albrighton
Michael Bradley
Fabian Delph
Jean II Makoun
Stiliyan Petrov
Barry Bannan
Chris Herd
Daniel Johnson

Gabriel Agbonlahor
Nathan Delfouneso
Emile Heskey
Darren Bent

Not great reading, Ashley will leave. Hopefully Heskey, Marshall and Beye too. That would be another 100k+ off our wage bill (stupid o'neill!)

[King Gizzard]

Current squad..

Brad Guzan
Andy Marshall
Elliott Parish

Luke Young
Stephen Warnock
Richard Dunne
Ciaran Clark
Habib Beye
Carlos Cuellar
James Collins
Eric Lichaj
Nathan Baker

Stewart Downing
Ashley Young
Marc Albrighton
Michael Bradley
Fabian Delph
Jean II Makoun
Stiliyan Petrov
Barry Bannan
Chris Herd
Daniel Johnson

Gabriel Agbonlahor
Nathan Delfouneso
Emile Heskey
Darren Bent

Not great reading, Ashley will leave. Hopefully Heskey, Marshall and Beye too. That would be another 100k+ off our wage bill (stupid o'neill!)

[King Gizzard]

He can not take Everton any further with the squad he has got and the transfer budget hes got. Really the only possible solution would be to try and get a good price on Rodwell.

Is Rodwell even that good? He doesn't even play that much for Everton

[Locke.]

Haven't really seen that much of him to be honest, but there are always rumours flying about and there usually high prices (£15-£20 Mil)

[King Gizzard]

We've got a young Ronaldinho-look-a-like Jamaican-English CM called Daniel Johnson..he's captain of the reserves I think..hope he can step up

http://www.avfc.co.uk/javaImages/a7/c8/0,,10265~9029799,00.jpg

[bbfan1991]

Rumours McLeish has left the Blues:shocked:, if true could he be heading to Villa?:shocked:

[bbfan1991]

Ashley Young gone as expected;). Downing looks to be off to Liverpool if a fee can be agreed.

Villa join Wanyama race?:D

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11677_7002281,00.html

[King Gizzard]

Thank god Young's finally gone

Downings not going unless we get stupid offer of like 30m+ which we wont

[bbfan1991]

Thank god Young's finally gone

Downings not going unless we get stupid offer of like 30m+ which we wont

Did you see that Downing picture? It looked photoshopped to me:joker:.

[bbfan1991]

Nate you got to fill this thread with Villa transfer speculation soon:p. You've left it too long to let it sink!

[King Gizzard]

Yeah it's fake

[bbfan1991]

Yeah it's fake

Especially when it came the scarf tassles:D. I'll be surprised if the Young fee is £15-17 million and if Downing goes they should try to get Liverpool to pay more than the Henderson cash.

[Locke.]

Don't be silly, they should let us sign him on the cheap

[King Gizzard]

The young fee was that low cause he only had one year left

Downing has 2 and we don't need to sell him and with Henderson with the pricetag, why not hold out for at least 25m?

[bbfan1991]

Don't be silly, they should let us sign him on the cheap

He's better than Henderson though, re the Young deal i'm surprised Villa didn't ask for more money...

[Locke.]

Henderson is 5 years younger

[bbfan1991]

Henderson is 5 years younger

True and has youth plus future development to back him up, let you off:p.

Even though Young only had 1 year on his contract if Villa wanted to they could have demanded more money?:p. Thankfully not now:D.

[King Gizzard]

Exactly, Henderson is unproven and has no experience, Downing has more England caps too.

[King Gizzard]

henderson had an absolutely woeful u21 tournament too

Probably one of the worst England players

[Locke.]

If it goes over £20M we should walk away and just sign N'Zogbia.

[King Gizzard]

It's already over 20m :joker:

[bbfan1991]

If it goes over £20M we should walk away and just sign N'Zogbia.

Whelan has said he's demanding a top fee. Tbh i'll be shocked if he goes higher than the £16 million they got for Antonio Valencia now that was a bargain!

[King Gizzard]

New sponsor 16m over 2 years

http://www.avfc.co.uk/javaImages/70/cd/0,,10265~9751920,00.jpg

[Locke.]

N'Zogbia will go for about £15M

[bbfan1991]

:shocked: It looks like a kitchen floor decoration, you know those white and black squares. Not bad but the other one from last year was better IMO.

[King Gizzard]

I like this years kits way better than last

Still wont buy them, don't like supporting gambling

[bbfan1991]

I like this years kits way better than last

Still wont buy them, don't like supporting gambling

I hate gambling too:D.

I wouldn't worry about Clark in terms of the CB places, United were never interested in him. Silly rumours because it was planned to buy Jones next year but of course other teams scuppered that plan;).

[bbfan1991]

Nathan Delfouneso signs a new contract until 2014:).

[King Gizzard]

Good old fonz

Glad we've got a keeper now :) 5 years is a bit too much for me though, not everyone can go on forever like van der Sar and Friedel, I think we should of gave him a 3 year deal with an option to extend it

[bbfan1991]

Don't matter about the length of deal, he's still a quality GK of course. Hope there is younger back up LOL.

I'm reading that Wigan rejected an offer from Villa for Charles N'Zogbia? The offer will probably be increased then because the money is there...

[King Gizzard]

We are just offering them less so that they will eventually settle for less than what they wanted

We will wrap it up this week

[bbfan1991]

We are just offering them less so that they will eventually settle for less than what they wanted

We will wrap it up this week

Most clubs are driving a hard bargain now, what positions do you think need strengthening?

[King Gizzard]

CB now carlos is going
LB
Another winger (we got rid of Ash as well as Downing)
Striker if we get rid of Emile

[bbfan1991]

CB now carlos is going
LB
Another winger (we got rid of Ash as well as Downing)
Striker if we get rid of Emile

I had thought of 3 on your list. LB well Warnock is being given another chance but someone better is needed.

CB someone who makes less mistakes than Dunne and Collins.

[King Gizzard]

Sadly looks like Dunne is going to be our no.1 CB now Shay's in, think Dunne had a big part to play in getting Shay here

[King Gizzard]

YZ5zCfOHk9c

:worship:

[bbfan1991]

Classic and that girl in the Villa top:laugh2:.

[bbfan1991]

Errmm bump for Nathan:p, not a bad start to the season for Villa so far.

Cannot understand Makoun going on loan to Olympiakos at all?:conf:

[King Gizzard]

mcleish doesn't rate him in the PL :(

[bbfan1991]

mcleish doesn't rate him in the PL :(

Shame that, with a small squad like Villa's you need the experience because as talented some of the youngsters are it is a tough league to play.

[bbfan1991]

Oh and I happened to come across a Villa site, fan with some good comments about Young at United and kind words about his time at Villa but listed a few negatives so fair. Some of the comments at the bottom were not positive ha ha.

Fan then talks about Albrighton and saying that he's starting to become a bit predictable and needs to improve if he's going to be in the side more regularly.

[King Gizzard]

Ashley was a petulant brat here last year, thought he was a 'in the hole' player but clearly wasn't, which is being outlined at his time at United so far..

He took all the set pieces, fell over easily, gobbed off at the ref, pointed to his name when he scored etc etc..Downing was far far better than him

Most don't begrudge his move though, because they know he is quality and he hasn't been a twat about moving unlike Gareth Barry and Downing

Albrighton has got a good cross, but he isn't great tracking back and give away too many silly fouls. Don't think he is a mcleish player at all

[bbfan1991]

Ashley was a petulant brat here last year, thought he was a 'in the hole' player but clearly wasn't, which is being outlined at his time at United so far..

He took all the set pieces, fell over easily, gobbed off at the ref, pointed to his name when he scored etc etc..Downing was far far better than him

Most don't begrudge his move though, because they know he is quality and he hasn't been a twat about moving unlike Gareth Barry and Downing

Albrighton has got a good cross, but he isn't great tracking back and give away too many silly fouls. Don't think he is a mcleish player at all

I do agree that Young's mind was elsewhere in his last season at Villa but he kept his head down professionally and finally left on gracious terms.

No disrespect to Villa but he is clearly thriving playing with better players and being given the chance to up his game.

Albrighton just needs to step up to the mark as he has got the talent to be in Villa's first team.

[Marc]

How many villa fans are there? :suspect:

[King Gizzard]

Havn't warmed to McLeish

Don't think I ever will, we're going to be dragged into the relegation battle, we have 4 top 4 teams in December

[King Gizzard]

how many villa fans are there? :suspect:

4002

[bbfan1991]

Aston Villa are keeping tabs on Danish international Simon Poulsen.

The 27-year-old AZ Alkmaar left-sider is out of contract at the end of the season.

Poulsen, who can play full-back or in midfield, is now attracting interest from a host of clubs.

Aston Villa have now emerged as one of those keeping close tabs on him.

It is understood that Villa scout Arthur Numan has already watched Poulsen on several occasions and delivered positive reports back to his bosses in the Midlands.

.

[King Gizzard]

Pointless signing

[bbfan1991]

Doug Ellis has been given a knighthood, so Sir Doug Ellis now:eek:.

Some Villa fans won't be happy with this news?;)

[King Gizzard]

McLeish needs to step down. Just awful

[Samuel.]

Too right. Lost me a potential win of £450 today.

[King Gizzard]

Thought we were going somewhere the last 2 games, but then back to this ****ty **** **** football once again. We better not give him any money this month

[bbfan1991]

Aston Villa have told talkSPORT Darren Bent is not for sale at any price.

The England striker has been the subject of strong rumours about a possible move to Liverpool this month – but the club have told talkSPORT they have not had any contact with the Anfield outfit and that no bid will be entertained.

There have been suggestion Bent was heading to Liverpool, with Andy Carroll returning on loan to Newcastle to replace Demba Ba, who will be away on African Cup of Nations duty with Senegal this month.

Despite not enjoying the service he was used to last season when Ashley Young and Stewart Downing were at the club, Bent has weighed in with six Premier League goals in a Villa side that has struggled all season to create chances.

[bbfan1991]

Stan Collymore‏@StanCollymore

Have heard the Villa owner will "significantly invest again" in #avfc this summer. We need it.Positive news though. #utv

Not surprising really. I think one more win might be enough for Villa to secure safety.. Good away point today, especially as Liverpool dominated most of the second half!

[Boothy]

Even if he invests in players, they're still gonna need a new manager. I don't know what they were thinking appointing McLeish and don't know what they're still doing with him now. I've got quite a few mates who are Villa fans and not one of them are happy with him.

[Locke.]

Given's one handed save from Suarez's header off the post was amazing

[King Gizzard]

We're really going to let this mug spend money? Really?

Zigic anyone?

[bbfan1991]

Lerner has made on hell of a mistake appointing McLeish now, fans are rightly not behind the Manager but RL has to be blamed for all that has gone on overall...

[King Gizzard]

Yeah he's clueless. look at the Browns who he also owns, worst team in the NFL. We're going to same way. The guy can't own teams

His only saving grace is the money he's put into the training facilities. He spent way too much money on average players that's put us in this mess the past 3-4 years

Plus we're still paying Jenas' wages..and he's not even training with us anymore he's back at tottenham..you couldn't make it up. Not to mention we've just gone and got the worst kit manufacturer in the history of kit manufacturers

[bbfan1991]

If Villa were to get relegated in the future financially it is such a blow to the club and imagine the backlash Lerner would get then...

[King Gizzard]

This will be the first time in years we're not the top Midlands team in the PL..at least that will be a wake up call

Good on WBA, and their win today

[bbfan1991]

Hopefully and I wonder what Paul Faulkner is making of all this right now?

WBA deserve another season in the Premier League and have got the right plan atm for their progress due to good management overall.

[King Gizzard]

Lol don't get me started on him, he's does all the finances, so technically more to blame than RL

[bbfan1991]

Lol don't get me started on him, he's does all the finances, so technically more to blame than RL

Oops;). What a shambles!

[Boothy]

I reckon both us and Villa are safe. Wolves and two of the other 4 teams below Villa will go down.

[bbfan1991]

I hope Wolves, QPR and Blackburn go down tbh.

[Boothy]

Yeah, they're the three I want to go down too

[King Gizzard]

I've never doubted we'd stay up, it's just terrible

At least under Ged we had some direction/were trying to play some good football/bought Bent/were going to sign Cabaye and basically all the players Newcastle ended up buying

Bring back Ged

http://img.skysports.com/11/03/660x350/Gerard-Houllier_2576282.jpg

[bbfan1991]

^ I agree with that!

[GiRTh]

He bought a few young players thru too; Like Bannon and Herd.

His health must have been one of the factors in him not staying on.

[bbfan1991]

Yeah GH health is more important than Football:).

[MattySlug]

A Delayed Aston Villa Match show with other stuff is now on EuroSport in Australia!

Liverpool and Arsenal matches/show are on ONE HD, (Free to air Dog *******s Network (They used to be all sports in Standard Def, then move only to HD, then put crap non-sport shows on))

[King Gizzard]

The Stoke game? I feel sorry for you if you watched that

[King Gizzard]

30,100 at Villa Park yesterday, if that isn't a sign to get rid then I don't know what is

[bbfan1991]

30,100 at Villa Park yesterday, if that isn't a sign to get rid then I don't know what is

They will just bury their hands in the sand, obvious that the fans are losing confidence although i'm glad to see Villa get another point towards safety.

The decline of the club now from a few years ago is sad...

[GiRTh]

They will just bury their hands in the sand, obvious that the fans are losing confidence although i'm glad to see Villa get another point towards safety.

The decline of the club now from a few years ago is sad...Agreed.

McLeish appointment was a huge step back for Villa. Just goes to show that success in the SPL doesn't mean jack in the EPL. They're gonna surely have to sack him at the end of the season. A few young managers have come thru this season so they should find an able replacement.

[King Gizzard]

I always think McLeish has miraculously been sacked when someone posts in here :(

He even finished 3rd with Rangers one season. Not even Ally with a points deduction has managed that

[bbfan1991]

Teams below Villa lost, sigh of relief.

How do you think tomorrow will go?

[King Gizzard]

Going to be 7-0

[Brother Leon]

1-1

Quote me.

[King Gizzard]

no way in hell

[Boothy]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/17713400

I don't know whether he's taking the piss or not.

yay 4000 posts

[King Gizzard]

**** sake. And Randy will be gullible and lap it all up and expect the fans too as well

[bbfan1991]

McLeish is SAF's pal ha ha.

I think the way SAF is looking at it is that now Managers don't get much time/patience to do their jobs where as the days when he started out it was different then, although he is lucky to have so much freedom and control at Manchester United for so long...

It is difficult for the current Managers with so much pressure on their shoulders, although this McLeish thing was doomed from the start...

[Mystic Mock]

Good luck to Villa in a few hours as I don't like seeing all the Midlands sides down there, but if Villa want to go back to the top half of the table then they need to get rid of Mcleish.

[bbfan1991]

Ashley Young dived and for what it was worth I did not think it was a penalty. I like the guy in terms of his all round game for United but he needs to cut that out, he got slated by United fans on Twitter and SAF admitted he went down easily too...

As for the other goals well I think Villa could have tried to defensively do better, there seems to be no desire or bottle under McLeish at all and the confidence/morale of the team must surely be at an all time low- excuse the pun!:spin:

[King Gizzard]

Samir Carruthers another youngster through all be it swapping Arsenal for Villa 2-3 years ago

[bbfan1991]

^He looks decent a player.

Nath your bros tea and cake tweet in the morning was funny LOL!

[bbfan1991]

PhysioRoom.com Ltd‏@physioroom

#Albrighton #Warnock #Herd #Clark all back in contention for the visit of Sunderland #Cuellar #NZogbia hoping to start #Villa.

[King Gizzard]

thanks for raising and dashing my hopes amc had been sacked again :'(

[King Gizzard]

****

[King Gizzard]

**** it. action needs to be taken. by 'not being a real fan' and not protesting/signs/whatever it makes us look like we're actually alright with this guy when we're not. finally the penny is dropping and the media is seeing we despise this guy

[MattySlug]

Thanks to all the AVFC fans here that read my post the other day, and hoping they lost this match. Plan Successful!!!

Let's hope Villa are relegated! Their needs some Posh Clubs in the Championship!!

Nah just joking! :D

Thanks again for losing tonight! :D

Bolton Wins!!!!!!!! :elephant:

[bbfan1991]

Villa are in deep **** now rather than before, where it was looking like they would just about scrape to safety.

McLeish has to go and some major rebuilding has to be done in the Summer!

[joeysteele]

He has done to Villa what he did to Birmingham, he has, as I said before, no vision and little spark. Aston Villa were foolish to appoint him.

[MTVN]

oi get behind the team yeah

[bbfan1991]

Not surprised that Lerner and Faulkner have released a statement reiterating their support for Alex McLeish;).

[MTVN]

"I'm not somebody who shirks a challenge. I will keep going and keep fighting to get the points that will make us safe"

You just can't keep the man down

[King Gizzard]

Faulkner and Lerner can **** off. bunch of mugs

Alex McLeish will never win the battle with the Aston Villa supporters over his brand of football.

Wednesday 25 April 2012

It is difficult to know what the endgame is for an owner who is in charge of a club with no obvious purpose at the moment

There is no point skirting the issue. Alex McLeish's position has become untenable and it is almost inconceivable to think that he will still be the Aston Villa manager at the start of next season, irrespective of what division the club are in. When "**** Off McLeish, the Villa is ours" and "Sack McLeish, my lord" rang around the stadium in the closing stages of Tuesday night's highly damaging 2-1 home defeat by Bolton Wanderers, it was the majority, not a noisy minority, singing in unison.

Villa fans never accepted McLeish in the first place and they want him out. Plain and simple. The brutal truth is that it is never going to work with McLeish in charge and anyone that still thinks otherwise is deluded. Randy Lerner, the Villa owner, and Paul Faulkner, the chief executive, must be able to see that now, even if they refused to believe that was the case when they made the extraordinary decision to appoint the Scot in the summer.

Extraordinary not because McLeish came from Villa's rivals, Birmingham City. Extraordinary because McLeish had just suffered his second relegation with Birmingham in three Premier League seasons. And extraordinary because he is synonymous with a brand of football that, to borrow the former Villa manager Graham Taylor's recent description, "looks [like] you are preparing a side not to lose".

This season has been abysmal and the statistics make for painful reading. Villa have won only seven league matches all season, the lowest in the division with the exception of already relegated Wolverhampton Wanderers. Only Wigan have scored fewer than the 19 goals Villa have managed in 18 home fixtures. McLeish's side have won only four league games at Villa Park and just one in the past five months, meaning that they are guaranteed to finish the season with the worst home record in the club's history.

Against that backdrop, it is little wonder that there is so much apathy surrounding the club. There were 10,000 empty seats inside Villa Park for the Bolton game, which has been a common theme this season. Villa's average attendance is 33,755, which is more than 6,000 down on the peak of four years ago and nine per cent down on last season, when Gérard Houllier's side flirted with relegation. Since August, only Blackburn Rovers have lost fans at a quicker rate than Villa. In fact more fans watched Villa in David O'Leary's last season, when the club finished 16th and supporters held up a banner that said: "We're not fickle, we just don't like you."

Lerner made a rare visit to Villa Park on Tuesday night and it must have been sobering and galling for the American to see first-hand evidence of just how far the club has fallen in such a short space of time. Two years ago today, Villa beat Birmingham City 1-0 to move level on points with fourth-placed Tottenham Hotspur with two games of the season remaining. On Saturday, they travel to West Bromwich Albion only three points clear of the relegation zone.

All of which means that Villa have gone from the verge of the Champions League to the brink of the Championship in the blink of an eye; a journey which must be particularly hard for Lerner to come to terms with when he looks at a balance sheet that shows he has pumped upwards of £200m (including £133m invested in return for shares) into a club that is underperforming on the pitch and haemorrhaging money off it. Villa posted a £54m loss for the year to 31 May 2011.

Indeed, it is difficult to know what the endgame is for an owner who is in charge of a club with no obvious purpose at the moment, other than to avoid the ignominy of relegation for the first time in 25 years. There are, admittedly, some mitigating circumstances for a woeful run that has seen Villa pick up only one victory from their last 13 league matches, not least the long-term absence of senior and influential players, such as the top scorer Darren Bent, the captain Stilian Petrov and the central defender Richard Dunne. Yet even with those players in the team, Villa were making hard work of things, grinding out the odd victory.

All of which strikes a chord with McLeish's time at Birmingham. Even in his best league season at St Andrew's, in 2009-10, when Birmingham came ninth place – their highest top-flight finish since 1959 – it was anything but pretty to watch, with McLeish's side scoring only 38 goals in as many games. Last season Birmingham scored only 37, less than a goal a game. This season Villa have scored 36 in 35 matches. In other words, a pattern is starting to emerge and it is one where entertaining football is absent.

There are other uncomfortable parallels to be drawn with last season, when Birmingham's campaign followed a broadly similar pattern to Villa's this term, as form fell away badly at a critical stage. Indeed, this time last year, Birmingham were 15th in the table, as is the case with Villa now, but had a four- rather than three-point cushion over the bottom three with three games remaining. Birmingham lost all three matches and went down.

A repeat of that form on the run-in and the chances are that Villa will suffer the same fate, leaving McLeish with three Premier League relegations on his CV. Lerner would surely be forced to intervene should that happen, although if common sense prevails both parties will agree at the end of the season to go their separate ways whether Villa survive or not. McLeish, after all, is not going to win this battle and Lerner has an investment to protect. As for the supporters, they just want to enjoy going to Villa Park again.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/blog/2012/apr/25/aston-villa-fans-alex-mcleish?fb=native&CMP=FBCNETTXT9038

Well said that man

[King Gizzard]

http://www.edp24.co.uk/polopoly_fs/fil_watford_norwich_028_1_1_871152!image/3420063194.jpg_gen/derivatives/landscape_490/3420063194.jpg

#SaveUsLambo

[bbfan1991]

Yes, hope Villa get rid of AM in the Summer, but I have doubts about whether it will happen.

Midlands Today showed the table and boy are Villa screwed big time:(.

[King Gizzard]

Don't see how they can possibly keep him even if we stay up. there's no way back for him and the atmosphere would be terrible around the place

Hopefully we can get a result at the Hawthorns with no home crowd there, and then when we're safe we can protest

Why do WBA hate Villa so much? I've never really seen any of our fans hate them back..is it just cause we were the top team in the midlands and everyone got pissed off about it

[bbfan1991]

Don't see how they can possibly keep him even if we stay up. there's no way back for him and the atmosphere would be terrible around the place

Hopefully we can get a result at the Hawthorns with no home crowd there, and then when we're safe we can protest

Why do WBA hate Villa so much? I've never really seen any of our fans hate them back..is it just cause we were the top team in the midlands and everyone got pissed off about it

Yes part of it is for that reasons and for the fact that West Bromwich is not far from Birmingham, so they class it as a local derby.

Jeff Stelling said in that article that WBA were going to be the top side in Birmingham:bored:. got his Geography wrong on that one.

[King Gizzard]

Lol, it's funny how Coventry still sing about Villa even though they haven't been relevant for 93844389 years

[bbfan1991]

LOL the Cov, i've been to the Ricoh Arena to watch an England U-21 game and the £35 million Carroll scored:joker:.. an easy ground to get to!:blush:

[King Gizzard]

yep went there with my ipswich friends couple years back, nice staddium but it was 40% full..on the first day of the season rofl

[bbfan1991]

Aston villas masseurs r cycling from Celtic to Villa Park in support of Stylian Petrov.Please donate to http://justgiving.com/pedalforpetrov #prayforpetrov

[King Gizzard]

Seen that, Petrov's wife giving 3000, Fabian Delph giving 3000, then the rest giving 500 odd

Curtis Davies only gave 100, lol

[GiRTh]

The quote from Graham Taylor is spot on. Villa are too negative considering the quality of their squad.

Three relegations from the Premiership is just not good enough. Villa have got three tough fixtures and many poeple think they'll lose two if not all three of those fixture. It would be a tragedy if they went down.

[King Gizzard]

Looks like he will be going no matter what happens this season. Most midlands journos seem to think so

thank god for that. Some think Lambert would be interested as well :dance:

[bbfan1991]

You would soon tell them what for, Nath:D.

[King Gizzard]

If only they did it before this game we'd of absolutely crushed WBA just because the spirits would have been lifted

[bbfan1991]

They might be up for a local derby? You never know;).

[King Gizzard]

Gabby loves a derby

[bbfan1991]

He better be in the mood, as much as I like Albion I am desperate for Villa to stay up!

[GiRTh]

Got to win the Derby to get some form and momentum for the last two games.

[bbfan1991]

Got to win the Derby to get some form and momentum for the last two games.

Definitely, although will the pressure get to most of these young lads? I suspect it probably will.

[King Gizzard]

http://www.avfc.co.uk/javaImages/9a/5c/0,,10265~10312858,00.jpg

Good old Samir

[King Gizzard]

Use to be at Arsenal

[bbfan1991]

VILLA team to play West Bromwich Albion: Given, Hutton, Cuellar, Dunne, Lichaj, N'Zogbia, Herd, Clark, Warnock, Agbonlahor, Heskey. #AVFC

Subs: Guzan, Collins, Ireland, Bannan, Carruthers, Gardner, Weimann. #AVFC

[GiRTh]

Looks like they're gonna play 4-4-2. Oh dear.

[King Gizzard]

Feeling a bit positive about it dunno why

[King Gizzard]

16 draws loll

[bbfan1991]

Villa love to draw recently:joker:, it is dull to watch the style of play too.

[King Gizzard]

Just wish we'd get rid now so there was a nice atmosphere at the ground. But now we're just going to shut up shop and try get 2 points

[MTVN]

Will McLeish likely go at the end of the season even if you stay up?

[King Gizzard]

Yes, just surviving in the Premier League when we're a mid to top table team with no fear of relegation is terrible, don't see a way back, the sales of tickets are down by thousands, and they can't have this negativity going into next season

step up Lambo

[King Gizzard]

Once we're safe there will be protests galore

[MTVN]

http://www.birminghammail.net/news/top-stories/2012/05/04/exclusive-video-aston-villa-players-in-birmingham-nightclub-brawl-97319-30897433/

THREE Aston Villa stars were involved in a 2.45am Birmingham nightclub brawl just days before the club’s biggest game of the season.

Chris Herd, James Collins and Fabian Delph were threatened with the police when trouble flared outside Broad Street’s Gatecrasher venue early on Tuesday.

All three have apologised to the fans for their behaviour and the club have fined them with the proceeds going to charity.

Exclusive video footage of the bust-up, given to the Birmingham Mail, shows Herd – his shirt open down to his chest to reveal a distinctive tattoo near his neck – kicking the club’s glass doors in a confrontation with staff. He is joined by Collins and Delph in the expletive-laden melee.

[mrlecturer]

bad boys for life.

[bbfan1991]

I've never been to Gatecrasher because it is so expensive:blush:. Naughty lads, if only they shown that much fight on the pitch LOOL.

[bbfan1991]

The wall that Villa has for fans to write messages of support to Stan Petrov is good:).

Still 0-0 vs Spurs currently.

[King Gizzard]

Cuellar leaving

Comoli spotted at VIP

McLeish thinks he's staying/it looks like he is

Sorry, I give up on this ****ing club if the above 3 all come true

[mrlecturer]

Congratulations on the point Nathan.

[bbfan1991]

Cuellar leaving

Comoli spotted at VIP

McLeish thinks he's staying/it looks like he is

Sorry, I give up on this ****ing club if the above 3 all come true

More doom and gloom, worrying times for Villa ahead again.

[MTVN]

Got to admire McLeish's resilience and fighting spirit

[BBDodge]

Got to admire McLeish's resilience and fighting spirit

You want that from the players, not from the crap manager.

But at least he hasn't gotten them relagated this season.

[King Gizzard]

http://i.imgur.com/TJTi2.jpg

[mrlecturer]

that PPG makes scary reading.

[michael21]

kicks AV

[King Gizzard]

Emile leaving Villa

end of an era

[bbfan1991]

Sad, although I suspect a few more will follow.

[Locke.]

Where is he going

[bbfan1991]

Didn't get the Express and Star today, so missed the big Monday sports articles:bawling:.

[King Gizzard]

End of contract. duno where he'll go

[bbfan1991]

End of contract. duno where he'll go

Back to Leicester?

[bbfan1991]

Aston Villa statement about Alex McLeish's departure.

http://www.avfc.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10265~2771920,00.html

[GiRTh]

You might get Curbishley. LOL

[King Gizzard]

Statement is very encouraging

[King Gizzard]

Lerner: "Compelling play and results that instil a sense of confidence that Villa is on the right track have been plainly absent."

[bbfan1991]

Statement is very encouraging

Indeed, although the actions have to match the words and sort this mess out;).

[bbfan1991]

Villa were dire to watch play this season:(, most of your matches were like normally last on MOTD LOL.

[King Gizzard]

Think we officially broke a record for the most last games on MOTD

[bbfan1991]

Alex McLeish had an habit of playing players in positions that they do not normally play in and weren't comfortable there, so this affected Villa's speedy counter on the wings to link up with the attack.

The defence needs a shake up too because quite a few goals were conceded from corners.

[King Gizzard]

Villa fans must be happier than Citeh fans today

[Mystic Mock]

Villa used to play some nice attacking Football, even under the one last season can't remember his name again now, but ever since Mcleish tookover you's have played so boring imo, it was like watching us all over again.

[King Gizzard]

Samir after hearing the news

https://p.twimg.com/As3BycMCQAAnn8I.jpg

[bbfan1991]

Here's the full interview with chief executive Paul Faulkner from the official site. http://bit.ly/Jhegcd #AVFC

[King Gizzard]

http://farm1.staticflickr.com/95/278478320_3af5de24c5_z.jpg

[bbfan1991]

Ole would do a brilliant job at Villa I think:D. I'm not actually sure whether he would come back to England as his young kids are settled back in Norway now and he had always intended on going back there...

[King Gizzard]

Someone on the Villa forums who works at the airport where randy's jet's at said he flew out to Norway

[bbfan1991]

Interesting. If Ole did join Villa to be the new Manager one good thing is that he might ask SAF for some loan players;).

[King Gizzard]

Looks like it might be happening :amazed::amazed::amazed:

[King Gizzard]

m6ebW1vJAlY

Good little video on him, Molde looks like a decent club, don't know if he'll want to leave though

[bbfan1991]

He is enjoying working with the Norweigan players and is doing a very good job there:).

[King Gizzard]

http://i.imgur.com/Ov1IB.jpg

[King Gizzard]

Picture of Randys jet in Norway

https://p.twimg.com/AtHcZ0lCQAAEy87.jpg

[bbfan1991]

SAF would have told OGS to go for the Villa job I think if he was asked for advice by Ole;).

[GiRTh]

Thats a nice vid of OGS. He's been doing well at Molde and would be a good young progressive manager for Villa. Hope you get him. :thumbs:

[Locke.]

Didn't know that he'd gone into management until recently, one of the few Utd players that I've liked

[King Gizzard]

Yeah, won the league with Molde who hadn't won it in over 100 years apparently