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didiman
30-04-2010, 12:24 PM
If you feel no close affinity for the planet and nature it doesn't mean you're a bad or immoral person. If you simply feel indifferent to 'all things natural' but feel passionately about other things I would really like to hear from you. http://www.surveymonkey.com/s/Closeness_to_Nature

If you feel passionately about nature you're more than welcome to contribute as well.

I've been carrying out a study looking at how close people feel to nature and whether their dietry choices and what they do whilst in the natural environment show any differences between the groups and many people have kindly filled it in. Presumably because we associate these sorts of studies with a moral stance that some people shy away or answer how they think they should feel. I have friends who are completely disinterested and a few who have an intense dislike of aspects of or all of 'nature' and they are still fine people.

I would like to give the opportunity to those who don't, to register their opinion through this survey, it's completely anonymous and easy to doin fact I'd really value their input into the study, it only takes several minutes and you don't have to think too much as its just selecting answers.

http://www.surveymonkey.com/s/Closeness_to_Nature

didiman
04-05-2010, 09:42 AM
Surprised no one seems interested as I've had some interesting points of view on other forums.

I was really hoping to hear from people who have no real interest in nature as I think it may be possible that all the studies that are done telling us that people are linked to the 'natural environment' because we're hard wired as a species, it's in our interests to be for our survival as a species.

Studies also show that being a vegetarian is likely to mean that you feel closer to nature. But have the studies been comprehensive enough? Or have they only interviewed people who have an interest in the study. After all why participate in a study about nature if you have little or no interest.

I thought it would be interesting to get the other point of view, if there is one. I can honestly say that I don't know the answer and don't have specific viewpoint.

Claymores
04-05-2010, 10:17 AM
I have no children so don't give a **** - global warming who cares - I'll be dead by then - good bad attitude

didiman
04-05-2010, 10:26 AM
I have no children so don't give a **** - global warming who cares - I'll be dead by then - good bad attitude

Does it matter if they're not your kids?
On the other hand although it may not be a case of being callous Why should we care about nature?

After all the people who tell us to care etc, such as celebrities or people who have a vested interest are often different and far removed from the majority of people and can afford to live a 'greener lifestyle'. Why should we listen?

When so many messages, some would say overwhelming, we recieve backed by the powerfull and influential tell us to use and consume, again via celebrities and other role models why not believe them?

Claymores
04-05-2010, 04:02 PM
Does it matter if they're not your kids?
On the other hand although it may not be a case of being callous Why should we care about nature?

After all the people who tell us to care etc, such as celebrities or people who have a vested interest are often different and far removed from the majority of people and can afford to live a 'greener lifestyle'. Why should we listen?

When so many messages, some would say overwhelming, we recieve backed by the powerfull and influential tell us to use and consume, again via celebrities and other role models why not believe them?

I was being slightly callous as nobody was playing with you, so typed to be conrovesial but even that didn't work. Seems TIBBers are somewhat indifferent.

I'm bored by celebs such as sting who dedicate their soul to the rain forests

Lucy.
04-05-2010, 04:05 PM
I love nature. So I didn't see much point in replying :P

Shasown
04-05-2010, 04:26 PM
Does it matter if they're not your kids?
On the other hand although it may not be a case of being callous Why should we care about nature?

After all the people who tell us to care etc, such as celebrities or people who have a vested interest are often different and far removed from the majority of people and can afford to live a 'greener lifestyle'. Why should we listen?

When so many messages, some would say overwhelming, we recieve backed by the powerfull and influential tell us to use and consume, again via celebrities and other role models why not believe them?

I recycle, switch unused appliances off and dont leave things on standby. Whether or not it will have an effect on the planet I dont know, or really care. I do know it saves me money, that means I can afford more beer and wine.

didiman
04-05-2010, 04:28 PM
I love nature. So I didn't see much point in replying :P

Still a good reason to do the survey even if you do like nature, only takes about 4 minutes and it'll help us learn and it'll be making science.

As I keep saying why should anyone not interested in nature fill take part in a study about how people feel about nature? I would like to think that they would want their point of view put forward and included.

Captain.Remy
04-05-2010, 04:37 PM
Not my thing. I'm an urban guy, I need the noise, the buildings etc...

But what I love about my city is that we have a beach and a few islands so it's a good mix. :hugesmile:

Iceman
04-05-2010, 04:39 PM
meh, nature is too close to my house for me to worry about t, i live beside one of the biggest parks in the world and the biggest enclosed park in europe.....its still dull as ****!

Claymores
04-05-2010, 04:41 PM
Not my thing. I'm an urban guy, I need the noise, the buildings etc...

But what I love about my city is that we have a beach and a few islands so it's a good mix. :hugesmile:

Smartass! We have a beach and a few islands where I live.......it's just you get hypothermia there unless 12 layers of clothing

Lucy.
04-05-2010, 04:41 PM
Survey = Done.

Claymores
04-05-2010, 04:48 PM
Survey = Done.

Ditto - hope it helps OP

Iceman
04-05-2010, 04:51 PM
did the survey

didiman
05-05-2010, 08:35 AM
The big question is what is 'nature' and why should would love it ?

Claymores
05-05-2010, 08:44 AM
The big question is what is 'nature' and why should would love it ?

Are you doing this as a school/college/Uni project? My general comment would be that the results are worthless - many anonymous respondents will answer the questions deliberately wrong from how they actually feel - it's the joke of the net.

didiman
05-05-2010, 09:42 AM
Are you doing this as a school/college/Uni project? My general comment would be that the results are worthless - many anonymous respondents will answer the questions deliberately wrong from how they actually feel - it's the joke of the net.

That's built into the study as long as the numbers are there and a good use of statistics (I know lies, dammed lies etc), and if anyone wants to spend the extra time figuring it out to 'beat the system' that's ok but why bother and what are they kicking against as I don't belong to an organisation or body of oppinion(someone doing a survey I suppose). I really don't have an agenda beyond are there differences between various groups and feel that the other point of view is important to give any real meaning. I've lived long enough and seen enough to know that nothing is ever that cut and dried

I know there are many people who are completely indifferent and I thought I'd give them an opportunity to put their point of view forward and although I must admit I would enjoy the chance of meaningful discussion on the subject I accept that the opportunity to do so is probably slim.

Jessica.
05-05-2010, 09:44 AM
I can't believe people have actually seriously replied to a spammer! :laugh2:

Iceman
05-05-2010, 10:02 AM
I can't believe people have actually seriously replied to a spammer! :laugh2:

really? I mean we have at least 10 members on here that spam up the forum with silly little gifs all day long......

arista
05-05-2010, 10:10 AM
The big question is what is 'nature' and why should would love it ?


Nature was on ITV1HD
The Final trip down the Nile past Uganda,
Great to see so many happy wild and protected animals.

didiman
05-05-2010, 10:20 AM
I can't believe people have actually seriously replied to a spammer! :laugh2:

Sorry no spam here, all anonymous and no advertising. It's a genuine survey and I'm trying to get people's honest opinions

Crimson Dynamo
05-05-2010, 10:21 AM
I think the people at cornwall college newquay should get a real job in the town that helps the local economy instead of pretending to work, like this bollocks.

Stu
05-05-2010, 11:15 AM
I think the people at cornwall college newquay should get a real job in the town that helps the local economy instead of pretending to work, like this bollocks.
Tell that to your local congregation, you boring killjoy. It's just a survey.

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y237/kingofthering/Weed.jpg

Nature rocks.

Claymores
05-05-2010, 11:20 AM
I think the people at cornwall college newquay should get a real job in the town that helps the local economy instead of pretending to work, like this bollocks.

At tad harsh LT - you like the nature of being deep deep in the Highlands

didiman
05-05-2010, 12:18 PM
I think the people at cornwall college newquay should get a real job in the town that helps the local economy instead of pretending to work, like this bollocks.

It's because of all the rubbish in this world that we need to do studies like this. At least then we can then talk about things with the surity that we really do know what we're talking about rather than repeating what has been said by others before about what we think we know.

Crimson Dynamo
05-05-2010, 12:23 PM
It's because of all the rubbish in this world that we need to do studies like this. At least then we can then talk about things with the surity that we really do know what we're talking about rather than repeating what has been said by others before about what we think we know.

what rubbish?

If you want to make an impact with litter go out in your street or local area twice a week with a binbag and start cleaning up. better still designate 1 day per month where everyone from your college does this for 10 hours.

that is impactful

Lucy.
05-05-2010, 12:25 PM
Dudes seriously, it's like a 3 minute survey - People have serious identity issues on this forum!

Crimson Dynamo
05-05-2010, 12:26 PM
Dudes seriously, it's like a 3 minute survey - People have serious identity issues on this forum!

can you explain what you mean?

and without using a corny Americanism as "dudes" as this is not a Hannah Montanna dialogue

GypsyGoth
05-05-2010, 12:29 PM
Survey done :)

Stu
05-05-2010, 12:34 PM
can you explain what you mean?

and without using a corny Americanism as "dudes" as this is not a Hannah Montanna dialogue
Let her be, it's just a word for **** sake. A word. I'm sure your own speech is, unbestknown to you, littered with dozens of American terms.

Crimson Dynamo
05-05-2010, 12:38 PM
Let her be, it's just a word for **** sake. A word. I'm sure your own speech is, unbestknown to you, littered with dozens of American terms.

no way Jose

that biatch has to give me the full 9 yards or i will serve her ass

big style

arista
05-05-2010, 12:41 PM
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3038/2552742099_e1a931e3c3.jpg

Claymores
05-05-2010, 12:42 PM
Dudes seriously, it's like a 3 minute survey - People have serious identity issues on this forum!

Have you come down with terminal cancer again?

Crimson Dynamo
05-05-2010, 12:42 PM
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3038/2552742099_e1a931e3c3.jpg

that is what GB has been doing all week

arista
05-05-2010, 12:44 PM
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2010/05/04/article-1271851-096CD501000005DC-523_233x566.jpg

Stu
05-05-2010, 12:47 PM
no way Jose

that biatch has to give me the full 9 yards or i will serve her ass

big style
Your ****ing crazy.

Crimson Dynamo
05-05-2010, 12:51 PM
Your ****ing crazy.

and you are banned for 3 months:laugh2:

Crimson Dynamo
05-05-2010, 12:52 PM
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2010/05/04/article-1271851-096CD501000005DC-523_233x566.jpg

He does not look like your typical Mason

Beastie
05-05-2010, 12:54 PM
ILoveMeat.

Claymores
05-05-2010, 12:55 PM
ILoveMeat.

Up the bum?

Stu
05-05-2010, 12:58 PM
and you are banned for 3 months:laugh2:
I was banned. TiBB towers messed up my email and I couldn't post or make topics. Whoops.

Sorry kid, try harder.

Claymores
05-05-2010, 01:04 PM
I was banned. TiBB towers messed up my email and I couldn't post or make topics. Whoops.

Sorry kid, try harder.


TIBB Towers - lol Stu - did you mean Fawlty Towers?!

Stu
05-05-2010, 01:05 PM
TIBB Towers - lol Stu - did you mean Fawlty Towers?!
:joker:

That's what the staff refer to it as. Seriously. I have tried for years now to get some of the more suggestible mods to take a screencap of it, but alas nothing yet.

Beastie
05-05-2010, 01:06 PM
Up the bum?

You got it in one Ian ;)

Lucy.
05-05-2010, 01:12 PM
You will 'serve my ass'
Wow and you say my word choice is corny.

Claymores
05-05-2010, 01:16 PM
You got it in one Ian ;)

I'm quite intuative sometimes - can't wait for yer sarcastic posts on BB11 beastie! I'm sure they'll be classic

Beastie
05-05-2010, 01:17 PM
I'm quite intuative sometimes - can't wait for yer sarcastic posts on BB11 beastie! I'm sure they'll be classic

Haha thanks Ian :)

Crimson Dynamo
05-05-2010, 01:17 PM
You will 'serve my ass'
Wow and you say my word choice is corny.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Znode/Humor/Joke_Over_Head

Claymores
05-05-2010, 01:18 PM
You will 'serve my ass'
Wow and you say my word choice is corny.

HGV awaits hun - just watch out for terminal cancer on the way.

(You DID say it was ok on forums)

Lucy.
05-05-2010, 01:19 PM
HGV awaits hun - just watch out for terminal cancer on the way.

(You DID say it was ok on forums)

You need to get over it seriously. For some reason you seem to think your 'joke' gets funnier each time you say it when actually it just shows your childish preoccupation with attempting to annoy someone. Wow you win, well done! Applause all round for claymores.

Claymores
05-05-2010, 01:27 PM
You need to get over it seriously. For some reason you seem to think your 'joke' gets funnier each time you say it when actually it just shows your childish preoccupation with attempting to annoy someone. Wow you win, well done! Applause all round for claymores.

No I don't sproggie - it shows I feel I can wind you up as now have hook-line to respond to anything you say kid.

Has your terminal cancer cleared-up or was it just being a spotty youth?

Lucy.
05-05-2010, 01:29 PM
'Sproggie' - you don't even know me so **** off making comments because of my age.

Claymores
05-05-2010, 01:31 PM
'Sproggie' - you don't even know me so **** off making comments because of my age.

I never will :bawling: Henry the HGV is coming to get you before your terminal cancer takes hold AGAIN.

Lucy.
05-05-2010, 01:33 PM
Again with your pathetic attempts at comedy.
Get a new gag, seriously.

Crimson Dynamo
05-05-2010, 01:35 PM
You need to get over it seriously. For some reason you seem to think your 'joke' gets funnier each time you say it when actually it just shows your childish preoccupation with attempting to annoy someone. Wow you win, well done! Applause all round for claymores.

he is like a dog with a military jumbo

Claymores
05-05-2010, 01:36 PM
he is like a dog with a military jumbo

Is it white and can do handbrake turns tho LT?

Crimson Dynamo
05-05-2010, 01:37 PM
Is it white and can do handbrake turns tho LT?

or is it Gavin?

Claymores
05-05-2010, 01:38 PM
or is it Gavin?

President can tell us the answer

InOne
05-05-2010, 01:40 PM
Lol

arista
05-05-2010, 01:40 PM
http://chavspeak.info/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/chav-pregnant-lovely.jpg


Nature Gone Wrong


One in The Bun and Smoking

Lucy.
05-05-2010, 01:42 PM
One in The Bun

Oven perhaps? :joker:

Crimson Dynamo
05-05-2010, 01:42 PM
http://chavspeak.info/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/chav-pregnant-lovely.jpg


Nature Gone Wrong


One in The Bun and Smoking


http://www.jobyrawlins.com/blog/images/louieblog.jpg

Nature Gone Wrong

GypsyGoth
05-05-2010, 01:43 PM
Pineapple Studio guy is very funny.

arista
05-05-2010, 01:44 PM
Louie is Live on Radio 5 Now

arista
05-05-2010, 01:45 PM
Pineapple Studio guy is very funny.



Live on Radio 5 now

Crimson Dynamo
05-05-2010, 01:46 PM
Live on Radio 5 now

Yes, for some reason Dick Bacon likes him.:conf:

horrible name dropping little wretch (not Richard)

arista
05-05-2010, 01:47 PM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/5live/index.shtml?refresh


Watch Live online

Claymores
05-05-2010, 01:48 PM
Pineapple Studio guy is very funny.

I've only ever seen the adverts on Sky - is he camper than Camp David in the shows?

arista
05-05-2010, 01:51 PM
Travel reporter Louise Perry
just did a Sexy dance with Louie.

Crimson Dynamo
05-05-2010, 01:54 PM
i want politics not poofters

arista
05-05-2010, 01:55 PM
i want politics not poofters


You get that
this makes a Break.
Richard said that on the Eve of a General Election.

Crimson Dynamo
05-05-2010, 01:57 PM
He could have had John Craven instead

talking about Countryfile bloopers

arista
05-05-2010, 02:48 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-D0YeNW3G-s

From a hour ago.

BBC Radio5
Travel reporter does some Sexy Dancing with Louie

Shasown
05-05-2010, 11:58 PM
Wow another fun filled thread.

Twilight
06-05-2010, 03:21 AM
Rofl

Niamh.
06-05-2010, 09:16 AM
Still a good reason to do the survey even if you do like nature, only takes about 4 minutes and it'll help us learn and it'll be making science.

As I keep saying why should anyone not interested in nature fill take part in a study about how people feel about nature? I would like to think that they would want their point of view put forward and included.

Do you like going to the beach? To the park? do you like to breath? saying you don't care about nature is stupid and selfish, you need it to survive, everyone does whether they appreciate it or not.

and no I wont be filling in you stupid survey either

WOMBAI
06-05-2010, 09:34 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-D0YeNW3G-s

From a hour ago.

BBC Radio5
Travel reporter does some Sexy Dancing with Louie

Aww - Richard was just getting into it there - I wanted to see him join in! :hugesmile:

Crimson Dynamo
06-05-2010, 09:45 AM
"and it'll be making science"

to quote the op

Niamh.
06-05-2010, 09:52 AM
"and it'll be making science"

to quote the op

I laughed at that too :joker: