Would Britain be better off without Alcohol?

[Crimson Dynamo]

Todays 5 live debate but what do you think?

think big

[Stu]

It's never going to happen. It's too ingrained in society. And prohibition never works. Would it be better off? Probably. But take the question like that and we are also better off without a lot of other fun things people like to do. There. Now we all live longer with a whole lot less to live for.

[Claymores]

Would Britain be better off without people who watch Channel 5?

[arista]

No.

[eye sea]

I don't drink any more. Mainly because I used to do some stupid things and I was a complete ass. I also was fat when I was drinking. Plus, it's far more healthy to not drink. And I don't miss it. :)

[Claymores]

I don't drink any more. Mainly because I used to do some stupid things and I was a complete ass. I also was fat when I was drinking. Plus, it's far more healthy to not drink. And I don't miss it. :)

You sound jolly interesting - honest

Drinkinng is recreational, makes you do stooopid things and be silly outwith the norm.

If drinking had become a genuine problem in your life you'd have got thin, not fat. Alchi's forget to eat

[Niamh.]

Probably - but, as usual, it is the idiots that abuse it that spoil it for the rest!

exactely! Yeah, there are a lot of idiots who abuse it but should everyone else have to give it up because of them? It's not really fair

[eye sea]

You sound jolly interesting - honest

Drinkinng is recreational, makes you do stooopid things and be silly outwith the norm.

If drinking had become a genuine problem in your life you'd have got thin, not fat. Alchi's forget to eat

I didn't have a problem with drink. I was just drinking a bit much and it was costing me a fortune. Then I worked out how I can be happy all the time being sober 24/7. :joker:

Try it. You really can get a big buzz out of being sober and healthy, no hangovers.:D

[Crimson Dynamo]

1 drink is too much
2 drinks is about right
3 drinks is not enough

[Crimson Dynamo]

Probably - but, as usual, it is the idiots that abuse it that spoil it for the rest!

the idiots you refer to are either people who change after 1 drink and then cannot help the compulsion to keep drinking

or

ill educated people who if they were from a more affluent, better educated home would not drink as they do.

[Claymores]

1 drink is too much
2 drinks is about right
3 drinks is not enough

and by the time you hit 12 yer seeing white military jumbos

[InOne]

No, I'd be lost without alcohol.

[MojoNixon]

Would Britain be better off without Alcohol? Sounds like Islamic country....

[Crimson Dynamo]

I wonder what a policeman or a doctor would say....

[Niamh.]

I wonder what a policeman or a doctor would say....

Free will LT

[InOne]

I wonder what a policeman or a doctor would say....

They would not be happy

[Crimson Dynamo]

Free will LT

?

free will can be legislated

[Crimson Dynamo]

They would not be happy

an alcoholic is someone who drinks more than a doctor

[Stu]

exactely! Yeah, there are a lot of idiots who abuse it but should everyone else have to give it up because of them? It's not really fair
Yep. You can apply that logic to most soft drugs, too.

[InOne]

an alcoholic is someone who drinks more than a doctor

I'm about even.

[Niamh.]

Yep. You can apply that logic to most soft drugs, too.

absolutely agree with that.

[eye sea]

Refreshing post! :thumbs:

Refreshing in a soft drinks way. ;)

[letmein]

Brits just freely give up their rights. Pretty soon you'll have none.

[hotleggs]

DRINK IS BLOODY GOOD lol

weekend cant wait

[Beastie]

Probably - but, as usual, it is the idiots that abuse it that spoil it for the rest!

Yep your right Wombai. People can take things too far.

[Beastie]

DRINK IS BLOODY GOOD lol

weekend cant wait

Legless?

[hotleggs]

Beast you should be called the priest LOL , get yourself a lager have a happy time drinking is good fun

[Claymores]

I wonder what a policeman or a doctor would say....

Geez a free pint probably, or else I'll show you my warrant card. That's how we used to get into niteclubs without queuing or paying when my ex's sister and her boy were both police.

[Tom4784]

It's not a realistic prospect but I'd probably say it'd possibly do some good. Most people can handle their drink but it's the few that use it as an excuse to act like apes who are the real problem.

[Beastie]

Beast you should be called the priest LOL , get yourself a lager have a happy time drinking is good fun

Oh hotleggs!! I do like the occasional alcopop, woo woo cocktail or vodka with lemonade darling. I love nothing more than dancing in a good atmosphered rock night club being a bit tipsy.. but I am happy when sober too with a j20 or lemonade. lol. My aim is just not to get "pissed" every weekend! but don't mind if most others want to do that!

[Natalie.]

Little bit of drinking now and then is good for the soul, I tell myself this. :)

[InOne]

Having a vodka and coke right now :)

[arista]

Brits just freely give up their rights. Pretty soon you'll have none.


No you have that Wrong
again.

[Claymores]

What is Britain? A right wing government ruling over a distictinctly socialist territory - look what we returned - 41 Scottish Labour and 6 SNP.

Does that reflect at all Arista how your Greater Engerland voted?

[Claymores]

You have 1 MP from Scotland in your Tory world - we'd happily swap the fox-hunters for Newcaslte - deal or no deal?

[Shasown]

You have 1 MP from Scotland in your Tory world - we'd happily swap the fox-hunters for Newcaslte - deal or no deal?

How dare you, sir? The English government do not have the rights to barter over Newcastle, it is located in the land god gave to his chosen people after the yids upset him.

It sits located between the lands of the Engerlish Waaaankers and the Porridge ****, as a shining beacon of light. It's peoples provide both races a shining example of what they can become if they apply themselves.

[sarza]

Its a shame how the minority cause a huge problem with drinking and not being able to handle it, but the majority of people drink sensibly and those are the ones affected by the idiotic minority u see on a friday night throwing up in alleyways or shouting abuse at both the police and general public. This is the type of situations you see again and again, and it gives not only alcohol a bad name but the country itself.

[Nemo123]

Drink: if it was invented yesterday, it'd be banned tomorrow.

[bansheewails]

It was banned in American in the 1930's and look what happened there. It should not be banned. Jesus if everything was banned that wasn't good for you we would be sitting at home wraped on cotton wool and forced to jog until we were all size 8. No more nannying from the state please.

[MissKittyFantastico]

Drinking and smoking will never be banned in this country, the government make way too much money from it. Fact.

Should it be banned? Nah, we live in too much of a nanny state now as it is.

[InOne]

Alcohol is good for you.

[King Gizzard]

Straight answer to your question? Yes it would be much better off

[InOne]

Straight answer to your question? Yes it would be much better off

How?

[MissKittyFantastico]

Alcohol is good for you.

Lol red wine in moderation, yes ;)

[InOne]

Lol red wine in moderation, yes ;)

Yesssss 3 bottles!!!

[Nemo123]

Sitcoms and soaps have glorified drink for too long - AbFab, Men (drinking) Badly. Corrie, ENDERS, Emmerdale, all set in pubs.

Drinking isn't fun or a laugh at all. It causes the trheepennies, depression, accidents, violence.

More education and less glorification.

[MissKittyFantastico]

Yesssss 3 bottles!!!

:laugh2:

Have you had any sleep?! I've got a bit of a hangover from two cans of Stella so right now I'm thinking alcohol is baaaaaaaaaaad :laugh:

[bansheewails]

Can't drink red wine any more, gives me heart burn of the highest order. *sighs*

[InOne]

:laugh2:

Have you had any sleep?! I've got a bit of a hangover from two cans of Stella so right now I'm thinking alcohol is baaaaaaaaaaad :laugh:

Was there a massive row lastnight? And I don't know if I've slept lol

[MissKittyFantastico]

Can't drink red wine any more, gives me heart burn of the highest order. *sighs*

I can't either anymore, I'm actually devastated :( The smallest amount gives me wicked heartburn and a migraine type headache, and not the next morning either, within minutes of drinking it. Am rediscovering beer and lager now, it's the only alcohol I seem to be able to tolerate.

[MissKittyFantastico]

Was there a massive row lastnight? And I don't know if I've slept lol

I don't know, was there? I left as things were getting a little heated, probably for the best....don't you remember?! :hugesmile:

[InOne]

I don't know, was there? I left as things were getting a little heated, probably for the best....don't you remember?! :hugesmile:

Some of it, don't really want to read back lol or might have been deleted

[MissKittyFantastico]

Some of it, don't really want to read back lol or might have been deleted

Oh screw that I'm nosey lol, I'm gonna have a look now...in the Shed/Den/Crackhouse yeah?

[Stu]

Sitcoms and soaps have glorified drink for too long - AbFab, Men (drinking) Badly. Corrie, ENDERS, Emmerdale, all set in pubs.

Drinking isn't fun or a laugh at all. It causes the trheepennies, depression, accidents, violence.

More education and less glorification.
Speak for yourself.

And Patsy and Eddie can do whatever the hell they please.

[InOne]

Oh screw that I'm nosey lol, I'm gonna have a look now...in the Shed/Den/Crackhouse yeah?

AA/The Clinic also

[Nemo123]

Speak for yourself.

And Patsy and Eddie can do whatever the hell they please.

Well obviously.

[InOne]

Sitcoms and soaps have glorified drink for too long - AbFab, Men (drinking) Badly. Corrie, ENDERS, Emmerdale, all set in pubs.

Drinking isn't fun or a laugh at all. It causes the trheepennies, depression, accidents, violence.

More education and less glorification.


Silly PC view.

[Nemo123]

Engerland Engerland Engerland

Engerland Engerland Engerland

Postman Pat
Postman Pat
Postman Pat and his black and white cat

Isn't it? Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm!

[InOne]

Engerland Engerland Engerland

Engerland Engerland Engerland

Postman Pat
Postman Pat
Postman Pat and his black and white cat

Isn't it? Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm!

Is that you Ian?

[Nemo123]

The drink makes you paranoid.

[InOne]

So does Weed. :nono:

[Captain.Remy]

On a economical and financial point...that'd be a disaster. Cigs and alcohol are some of the biggest income of every country.

[Nemo123]

On a economical and financial point...that'd be a disaster. Cigs and alcohol are some of the biggest income of every country.

Er, funnily enough, countries which have cheap booze like France, Spain, Portugal, etc.have fewer problems with antisocial drinking. It's not at all an issue in these countries

Revenue. Problem drinking. Not issues.

[Shasown]

I can't either anymore, I'm actually devastated :( The smallest amount gives me wicked heartburn and a migraine type headache, and not the next morning either, within minutes of drinking it. Am rediscovering beer and lager now, it's the only alcohol I seem to be able to tolerate.

If its the cheaper red wines(discounted bottles from supermarkets etc) that cause that, it could be the additives that are used to quicken the process, there are a couple of tricks to try, get a bottle and let it stand totally undisturbed for about a month so that the chemicals settle, then pour while ensuring you disturb them as little as possible.

A quicker way is to nuke it, microwave a glassful, for about 20 seconds on high power.

[Claymores]

If its the cheaper red wines(discounted bottles from supermarkets etc) that cause that, it could be the additives that are used to quicken the process, there are a couple of tricks to try, get a bottle and let it stand totally undisturbed for about a month so that the chemicals settle, then pour while ensuring you disturb them as little as possible.

A quicker way is to nuke it, microwave a glassful, for about 20 seconds on high power.

hahahahaha - any decent hangover tips while your at it Terry :hugesmile:

[Claymores]

Is that you Ian?

Now now Joe :nono:

No need to blame every Engerland slur on poor old Ian!

[Captain.Remy]

Er, funnily enough, countries which have cheap booze like France, Spain, Portugal, etc.have fewer problems with antisocial drinking. It's not at all an issue in these countries

Revenue. Problem drinking. Not issues.

That wasn't my point but I guess you're right.

[Nemo123]

I know it wasn't. Antisocial drinking has high costs in terms of all the asociated problems, violence, accidents, absenteeism, etc, etc, etc, compensated for by the tax revenue to the govt. Just remarking in other civilised countries they don't have the same problems nor do they overly rely on tax from tobacco and alcohol.

Taxing something to discourage it is bogus.

[Shasown]

hahahahaha - any decent hangover tips while your at it Terry :hugesmile:

I dont get them, I always have a pint or two of water before sleeping. That helps rehydrate the brain and flush the toxins from the body.

Queasy stomach - have a fry up/or egg based meal - lots of protein.

Dehydrated - Irn Bru/Vimto/Red Bull etc

Top tip though if you have a headache dont take paracetamol, take anything but. Believe it or not it will make you feel even queasier.

[Claymores]

I dont get them, I always have a pint or two of water before sleeping. That helps rehydrate the brain and flush the toxins from the body.

Queasy stomach - have a fry up/or egg based meal - lots of protein.

Dehydrated - Irn Bru/Vimto/Red Bull etc

Top tip though if you have a headache dont take paracetamol, take anything but. Believe it or not it will make you feel even queasier.

Irn Bru - my German pals just call it sugar wasser!

[Shasown]

Irn Bru - my German pals just call it sugar wasser!



Yeah but its phenomonal.

Best decent hangover tip is drink lots of alcohol, no food no water or mixers and mix wines and spirits with beers and lagers.

Or is that how to get a decent hangover?

[Claymores]

Yeah but its phenomonal.

Best decent hangover tip is drink lots of alcohol, no food no water or mixers and mix wines and spirits with beers and lagers.

Or is that how to get a decent hangover?

Avoid hangovers, just stay drunk Tel!

[Shasown]

Avoid hangovers, just stay drunk Tel!

Tried that, it doesnt work, you can have a hangover and still be blootered. Another myth is drinking yourself sober, doesnt happen, you may feel as if you are sober, but sober people around you will see you as drunk.

[bananarama]

Todays 5 live debate but what do you think?

think big


Yes the world would be better off. But it's not going to happen alcohol is a too entrenched recrational drug to get rid of...It could be better managed though.......


A more realistic possibility is the banning of all other recreational drugs and drug taking.........Draconion measures would be needed to rid the world of trashy drugs.....Just needs the political will and the sacking of all psyco babble advisers.....

[BB_Eye]

Yes the world would be better off. But it's not going to happen alcohol is a too entrenched recrational drug to get rid of...It could be better managed though.......


A more realistic possibility is the banning of all other recreational drugs and drug taking.........Draconion measures would be needed to rid the world of trashy drugs.....Just needs the political will and the sacking of all psyco babble advisers.....

I don't think I've ever heard anyone using the word 'draconian' in a positive context.

For my own part, I'd say the so called "war on drugs" has done more harm than good. Resources that might have been better spent on policing and incarcerating antisocial and violent criminals are instead drained by every successive government's futile and sisyphian struggle to tackle the drugs trade by targeting suppliers and addicts, many for whom psychiatric treatment would be far more effective than imprisonment... and that's before you get into the issue of legality. You can thank pressure from the scaremongering media for that.

[Shasown]

A more realistic possibility is the banning of all other recreational drugs and drug taking.........Draconion measures would be needed to rid the world of trashy drugs.....Just needs the political will and the sacking of all psyco babble advisers.....

Realistic? dont talk sheeeite. Would you then also ban tea and coffee unless it was decaffeinated? What about sugar and sugar substitutes? They all give highs.

Political will? So what do you advocate about such countries as Columbia, Burma, Thailand etc that cant effectively control the producers within its own borders? Invade them?