Nathan vs. John James for Alpha-Male?

[Jords]

Nathan and John James are both quite strong male housemates in the house, and they dont seem to speak much. For example, they both really like the footy and could have had a good conversation whilst the match was on but instead just blanked each other. Do you think theyre both a bit jelous of one another and are wanting to be the alpha-male? I think Josie is a key housemate as JJ was very interested in how well she got on with Nathan, as if whoever she prefers is 'winner'.

Personally I dont think there is an alpha-male yet, but these 2 are in for the running of the position; who is more likely to become alpha? Nathan the house cook or John James the better looking of the 2. :spin:

[starry]

They think Josie is one of the favourites just because Mario wrote that on the Beach Ball.

[WOMBAI]

Are you kidding! Nothing strong about Nathan - just a little sheep! At least JJ thinks for himself - agree with him or not! Why do we need an alpha-male - they are usually completely predictable - adding nothing different to the series!

[Jords]

Are you kidding! Nothing strong about Nathan - just a little sheep! At least JJ thinks for himself - agree with him or not! Why do we need an alpha-male - they are usually completely predictable - adding nothing different to the series!

The fact he is in charge of the kitchen makes him a strong housemate, however on screen it doesnt show as he is barely around. :laugh:

[Shiner]

Steve is the alpha male.

[Livia]

I can't vote in this poll because there isn't a "neither" option. I hate Shabby, but she's more of an alpha male that this pair of idiots.

[Zippy]

Steve is the alpha male.

I was typing that when your post appeared!

Yes he is. JJ is a frustrated closet homo struggling with his sexuality. Nothing alpha about that!

[WOMBAI]

The fact he is in charge of the kitchen makes him a strong housemate, however on screen it doesnt show as he is barely around. :laugh:

The kitchen is a good place to hide, when you have nothing interesting to say - and it makes him useful to the house - therefore ensuring he stays, for now, at least! If he didn't cook - he would be long gone! :hugesmile:

[Livia]

Steve is the alpha male.

I agree. [Lovin' the freaky cat, by the way...]

[Tracyjay]

I think if anyone is the alpha male then it is Steve. you dont have to strut about to be Top...just quiet power...Steve just sits calmly and comments occasionally but they all seem to respect him and no one would argue with him. There only complaint was his snoring....which doesnt seem to get mentioned now.
Nathan just seems to posture about and JJ is too insecure to be an Alpha male

[Jords]

The kitchen is a good place to hide, when you have nothing interesting to say - and it makes him useful to the house - therefore ensuring he stays, for now, at least! If he didn't cook - he would be long gone! :hugesmile:

I agree with you there Wombai, however because of this role he has made himself essential so housemates will do their best to be on his good-side.

And nah dont see Steve as alpha, he doesnt get involved enough and doesnt offer his opinions as much as these two.

[rusticgal]

Nathan is using the kitchen as a shield... I reckon if he was goaded he would be a nasty bit of work... but JJ holds his own and how you can say he doesnt say much??? what show are you watching?

[WOMBAI]

I think if anyone is the alpha male then it is Steve. you dont have to strut about to be Top...just quiet power...Steve just sits calmly and comments occasionally but they all seem to respect him and no one would argue with him. There only complaint was his snoring....which doesnt seem to get mentioned now.
Nathan just seems to posture about and JJ is too insecure to be an Alpha male

I agree with that! I am surprised he wasn't mentioned - as his disability doesn't make him any less of a man - actually, more so! He is undoubtedly the alpha-male - and a positive one - not a macho idiot!

[Tracyjay]

I agree with that! I am surprised he wasn't mentioned - as his disability doesn't make him any less of a man - actually, more so! He is undoubtedly the alpha-male - and a positive one - not a macho idiot!
:thumbs::thumbs:thanks!

[chuff me dizzy]

JJ for me ,Nathan THINKS hes alpha male but hes not

[Raph]

Nathan.

[Zippy]

JJ for me ,Nathan THINKS hes alpha male but hes not

LOL. If he's your idea of an alpha male then I pity you.

I don't think you or Jords actually even know what an alpha male is! Its not the gorilla that jumps about beating its chest and being loud. Its the big quiet one sat in the corner who nobody would dare **** with and who would cut you down with one stare.

That's Steve.

JJ? PMSL :joker:

[chuff me dizzy]

LOL. If he's your idea of an alpha male then I pity you.

I don't think you or Jords actually even know what an alpha male is! Its not the gorilla that jumps about beating its chest and being loud. Its the big quiet one sat in the corner who nobody would dare **** with and who would cut you down with one stare.

That's Steve.

JJ? PMSL :joker:

Zip it Zippy

[WOMBAI]

Nathan.

Ha, ha, ha - sorry Raph - but I don't know what show you are watching - it certainly isn't the same one as me! :hugesmile:

[Tracyjay]

LOL. If he's your idea of an alpha male then I pity you.

I don't think you or Jords actually even know what an alpha male is! Its not the gorilla that jumps about beating its chest and being loud. Its the big quiet one sat in the corner who nobody would dare **** with and who would cut you down with one stare.

That's Steve.

JJ? PMSL :joker:

Agree with you Zippy...even Ben is more Alpha than Nathan or JJ:devil:

[Zippy]

Zip it Zippy

JJ is a chicken legged, bleached, moisturising QUEEN. He's about as dominant as a girl guide.

His angry outbursts are more laughable than intimidating. Somewhere in Australia a beach is missing its BUM. :xyxwave:

[Angus]

Steve is the alpha male.

This.

Why bother starting a poll with limited options - where is the "neither in a million years" option?

[chuff me dizzy]

JJ is a chicken legged, bleached, moisturising QUEEN. He's about as dominant as a girl guide.

His angry outbursts are more laughable than intimidating. Somewhere in Australia a beach is missing its BUM. :xyxwave:

He could dominate me anytime he likes :kiss::kiss:

[WOMBAI]

I agree with you there Wombai, however because of this role he has made himself essential so housemates will do their best to be on his good-side.

And nah dont see Steve as alpha, he doesnt get involved enough and doesnt offer his opinions as much as these two.

Nathan has no opinions - he is a sheep!

[Jordan.]

Id say Nathan would walk all over JJ

[Molehole]

Steve is the alpha- You don't have to be the loudest to have the biggest voice. When JJ kicks off people immediately oppose him, because they question his judgement. Likewise Nathan with his behind-the-back bitching, and the general negative reactions to him dominating the kitchen. I bet that if Steve started to tell people what for, everyone would go silent and listen. Steve is the alpha male of a HUGE family after all, and has demonstrated great strength through tragedy and adversity.

[Tessier Ashpool]

JJ and Nathan aren't really leader type personalities,imo. More like Steve or Shabby.

[chris1232]

Steve is the alpha male.

haha yeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

[BB_Eye]

I don't like either of them and both of them would have a malignant influence on the house as "leader" figures.

[Jamietwo]

nathans strength is his laid back attitude...he is a fairly gentle alpha male. JJ is an emotional boy and is held in immaturity by his anger. we have more to come from steve.

[MrGaryy]

I'm sorry but neither of them are alpha male, in fact the mere thought of John being 'alpha' I find hilarious. They're both way too young and immature, they're actually both extremely child like. the alpha male is Steve. Corin is the alpha female.

[BB_Eye]

nathans strength is his laid back attitude...he is a fairly gentle alpha male. JJ is an emotional boy and is held in immaturity by his anger. we have more to come from steve.

Laid back??? A man who has a hissy fit over someone not sharing their crisps and gets all queeny when someone takes something from the cupboard without his express permission.

[Tessier Ashpool]

I'm sorry but neither of them are alpha male, in fact the mere thought of John being 'alpha' I find hilarious. They're both way too young and immature, they're actually both extremely child like. the alpha male is Steve. Corin is the alpha female.


Not sure if I see Corin as alpha female. Mother-figure maybe not sure if that's the same as alpha female? But Shabby seem to be a shepherd leading some of the sheep.

[MrGaryy]

Not sure if I see Corin as alpha female. Mother-figure maybe not sure if that's the same as alpha female? But Shabby seem to be a shepherd leading some of the sheep.

The housemates respect Corin, she's knows when to float but wasn't a doormat as seen when she stood up to John James. They come to her for advice, she;s very much the female alternative to Steve.

Shabby is way too volatile and childlike to be alpha. At first she comes across dominant and leader-like but very soon people, even her friends realise she's actually just very temperamental and opinionated and lose the respect for her.

[WOMBAI]

haha yeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

Steve is by far the best man for the job - never send a boy to do a man's job - both Nathan and JJ are immature little boys (despite Nathan having the face of a 40 year-old).

[Lex]

JJ could'nt be 'the alpha male' in a Hareem!!:hugesmile:

[paper-cut-exit]

Neither Nathan nor JJ are alpha material imo. Steve is the prime candidate to fit the alpha-male spot in the house.

[Tessier Ashpool]

The housemates respect Corin, she's knows when to float but wasn't a doormat as seen when she stood up to John James.

Ha, I forgot about that! She has got a bit of venom to her then.

And I guess she is the closest female equivalent to Steve.

Still, Shabby will probably rise to be the petulant/charismatic evil dictator of the house :devil:

[Tracyjay]

Steve is by far the best man for the job - never send a boy to do a man's job - both Nathan and JJ are immature little boys (despite Nathan having the face of a 40 year-old).

Face spot on:thumbs:
And body of a hairy twiglet:dance:

[bbbrrr]

nathan is def more alpha male than JJ

nathan is bigger looks older and is his own person,,

JJ is just a pretty boy

[WOMBAI]

nathan is def more alpha male than JJ

nathan is bigger looks older and is his own person,,

JJ is just a pretty boy

Ha, ha - Nathan is the biggest sheep in there - baaahhh! Don't suppose he has had an original idea in his life!

[Shiner]

It's a tough call for the girls because I don't think the role has been filled yet. I suspect Josie is more alpha than Corin who is definitely the mother figure but lives in a bubble and has no leadership aspirations (she's just happy keeping on top of her physical appearance). I think there is more chance of all the females following what Josie says (when she's not sucking her thumb that is) than Corin. Shabby would definitely be up there as alpha if she sorted herself out but she'll never be respected in the role as long as she is prone to tantrums. Shabby's influence is more about winding up the toys and letting them go, rather than leading by example.

[Shiner]

Ha, ha - Nathan is the biggest sheep in there - baaahhh! Don't suppose he has had an original idea in his life!

Every word that comes out of his mouth is a cliche... even when he's angry.

[georgehudson]

Nathan because the whole house accept from a few would be on his side, cant see them going against each other but still, Nathan has more power :)

[WOMBAI]

I expect the Nathan vote to go up - when all the kids get back from school!

[WOMBAI]

Nathan because the whole house accept from a few would be on his side, cant see them going against each other but still, Nathan has more power :)

Somehow - I don't think Nathan and power are familiar with one another! :joker:

[Stacey.]

John.

[fuzzylovin]

They both idiots.

[Sabrewulf238]

I think Steve is the alpha male too...

Well if you're talking about the father figure then I'd definitely say it's Steve

[Chels]

How anyone can say that paranoid little **** John is alpha male is beyond me. Nathan isn't one either though, he's too laidback. It's Steve definately, everyone looks up to him and respects him.

[bbbrrr]

Ha, ha - Nathan is the biggest sheep in there - baaahhh! Don't suppose he has had an original idea in his life!

but the question of the threrad is who is alpha male out of JJ and nathan

not who has the best vocabulary, nathen is the alpha male out of the 2 of them JJ is 2 vain and whiney,

[WOMBAI]

but the question of the threrad is who is alpha male out of JJ and nathan

not who has the best vocabulary, nathen is the alpha male out of the 2 of them JJ is 2 vain and whiney,

Neither of them are alpha males - although Nathan clearly thinks he is - totally deluded of course!

[Shiner]

but the question of the threrad is who is alpha male out of JJ and nathan

not who has the best vocabulary, nathen is the alpha male out of the 2 of them JJ is 2 vain and whiney,

There is only one alpha male. All others are contenders to the position. You can't say X is the alpha but Y is alpha out of Y and Z.

[bbbrrr]

yes but nathan closer to an alpha male than JJ,

im new here, i can see there is no point replying to u anymore

maybe ur 3 levels above me in thought, i have not watched loads of the showww

[Shiner]

yes but nathan is more of an alpha male than JJ,

im new here, i can see there is no point replying to u anymore

:conf: I shall extend you that same courtesy. Welcome to the forum. :conf:

[bbbrrr]

i was talking to wombai not u shiner, im confused need to go to bed

[Julie10]

Nathan thinks he is getting major airtime that is why he is in the kitchen. Also JJ is in Nathans bad books because of the way he treated Rachael its nothing to do with alpha-male.

[WOMBAI]

i was talking to wombai not u shiner, im confused need to go to bed

Just stating my opinion - not personal - Welcome to the forum! :hugesmile:

[Shiner]

i was talking to wombai not u shiner, im confused need to go to bed

Ha ha no worries. :xyxwave:

Although I clearly am 3 levels above you in thought.... at least until you've had a snooze. :joker:

[DrunkerThanMoses]

There both terrible housemates, who cares, the sooner they both go the better!