So is being ugly now the new disability?

[Angus]

The immediate reaction of everyone was to comment on Andrew's looks and make some really off colour assumptions about him based purely on that. It seems that good looking people are immediately accepted without even trying, whilst ugly people have a massive barrier of prejudice and discrimination to overcome before anyone gives them the time of day.

Perhaps ugliness needs to be elevated to the status of a disability since it clearly inhibits people from progressing in life generally due to the unreasonable and unjustified prejudice of shallow people who think being "fit" is the be all and end all of everything.

[Orvakki]

No, look at how many followers Josie has. (no offense)

[fruit_cake]

people who judge only on looks always end up losing in the long term because they lose out on people who might have made really good friends

[starry]

I haven't commented on his looks really. Just that he looks geeky, but that was relating to the information we were given about him as well.

[troy4783]

No, look at how many followers Josie has. (no offense)

i actually think josie is quite hot just fat

[Orvakki]

i actually think josie is quite hot just fat

yeah thats what i mean, it doesnt matter what you look like
(yeah she is hot)

[smudgie]

He seems to be a canny lad. Nobody is perfect. Beauty comes from within, and so does true ugliness.

[stonedape]

Good looks help with first impressions but it will cause friction when it comes to a competition like this. Andrew won't be seen as a threat, the other two are going to have problems long term.

[Angus]

yeah thats what i mean, it doesnt matter what you look like
(yeah she is hot)

I wish that were true, but there have been plenty of threads on here that comment purely on her looks. I don't like her for a variety of reasons, but how she looks isn't one of them.

[Kazanne]

The immediate reaction of everyone was to comment on Andrew's looks and make some really off colour assumptions about him based purely on that. It seems that good looking people are immediately accepted without even trying, whilst ugly people have a massive barrier of prejudice and discrimination to overcome before anyone gives them the time of day.

Perhaps ugliness needs to be elevated to the status of a disability since it clearly inhibits people from progressing in life generally due to the unreasonable and unjustified prejudice of shallow people who think being "fit" is the be all and end all of everything.

I agree Angus ,I posted a thread 'Poor Lad' and no one hardly agrred,and people call housemates bitches,you couldn't write it could you?:xyxwave:

[WOMBAI]

The immediate reaction of everyone was to comment on Andrew's looks and make some really off colour assumptions about him based purely on that. It seems that good looking people are immediately accepted without even trying, whilst ugly people have a massive barrier of prejudice and discrimination to overcome before anyone gives them the time of day.

Perhaps ugliness needs to be elevated to the status of a disability since it clearly inhibits people from progressing in life generally due to the unreasonable and unjustified prejudice of shallow people who think being "fit" is the be all and end all of everything.

This! It has become really tedious listening to the shallow judgements of the idiots on this forum!

Bet most are far from being oil paintings themselves - and it simply makes them, and their insecurities, feel better - putting someone else's appearance down in this way!

[Julie10]

Society has caused people to think that way. Fat, ugly and the disabled are not acceptable that is why people say it without thinking they have offended anyone it just rolls off the tongue.

[WOMBAI]

I haven't commented on his looks really. Just that he looks geeky, but that was relating to the information we were given about him as well.

'Geeks' usually end up doing very well for themselves, with good, well paid jobs - and comfortable lifestyles. Give me geeks to jerks any day!

[starry]

'Geeks' usually end up doing very well for themselves, with good, well paid jobs - and comfortable lifestyles. Give me geeks to jerks any day!

I definitely prefer people who have some intelligence to those who just think they are cool.

[Angus]

I definitely prefer people who have some intelligence to those who just think they are cool.

Yes I agree. As the saying goes "Beauty fades, Dumb is forever".

[stonedape]

Yes I agree. As the saying goes "Beauty fades, Dumb is forever".

I thought it was "Intelligence fades, ugliness is forever"? But I guess there's plastic surgery.

[WOMBAI]

I definitely prefer people who have some intelligence to those who just think they are cool.

Since coming on this forum I have come to detest the word 'cool' as it is just used to justify people's shallowness! Being nasty and bitchy is apparently, to some, being 'cool' as is having a certain look and/or image! If you don't fit a certain image - then you are not 'cool' - got no time for that nonsense. In my book - the people that use the word 'cool' to describe people - are not cool!

[Braden]

I like Andrew, I think he will make a great housemate imo.

[WOMBAI]

I thought it was "Intelligence fades, ugliness is forever"? But I guess there's plastic surgery.

How can intelligence fade if you never had it in the first place! :hugesmile: Definitely a case of either you do or you don't! Inner ugliness is usually forever!

[setanta]

Excellent post Angus and yes, I do believe that our society is way too wrapped up in looks and all that superficial nonsense. It's actually quite depressing that it still has such a profound influence on how we view others and live our lives, but sure that will never change.

[Livia]

The immediate reaction of everyone was to comment on Andrew's looks and make some really off colour assumptions about him based purely on that. It seems that good looking people are immediately accepted without even trying, whilst ugly people have a massive barrier of prejudice and discrimination to overcome before anyone gives them the time of day.

Perhaps ugliness needs to be elevated to the status of a disability since it clearly inhibits people from progressing in life generally due to the unreasonable and unjustified prejudice of shallow people who think being "fit" is the be all and end all of everything.

Only the very shallowest and most immature are rocked by someone's looks without taking anything else into account, and they'll battle at length to convince you they're right. Empty vessels, and all that. These people aren't going to be young and beautiful forever and in a few years they'll have nothing to offer. Beauty fades, but stooopid is forever.

[Shiner]

The immediate reaction of everyone was to comment on Andrew's looks and make some really off colour assumptions about him based purely on that. It seems that good looking people are immediately accepted without even trying, whilst ugly people have a massive barrier of prejudice and discrimination to overcome before anyone gives them the time of day.....
Absolutely. Look how long, despite many eviction attempts, it's taken not so bonny Dave to be not put up for eviction. JJ acts like an arse but it's all forgotten because he's pretty.

[Shiner]

I definitely prefer people who have some intelligence to those who just think they are cool.

You'd love me, I'm both. :joker:

[Livia]

Yes I agree. As the saying goes "Beauty fades, Dumb is forever".

LOL... Oops! Soz Angus for appearing to have copied you!

[Kaaarenn!]

No, look at how many followers Josie has. (no offense)

Josie isn't even ugly. I think she's really pretty.

[eye sea]

The immediate reaction of everyone was to comment on Andrew's looks and make some really off colour assumptions about him based purely on that. It seems that good looking people are immediately accepted without even trying, whilst ugly people have a massive barrier of prejudice and discrimination to overcome before anyone gives them the time of day.

Perhaps ugliness needs to be elevated to the status of a disability since it clearly inhibits people from progressing in life generally due to the unreasonable and unjustified prejudice of shallow people who think being "fit" is the be all and end all of everything.

I give you five stars for this thread. ;)

[starry]

I think Josie has the girl next door look which some of the female audience find attractive as they find it non-threatening. So I think her looks do have an influence on voters in a way. I don't find her that interesting though.

[Chuckyegg]

welcome to the world

[delnaja]

This! It has become really tedious listening to the shallow judgements of the idiots on this forum!

Bet most are far from being oil paintings themselves - and it simply makes them, and their insecurities, feel better - putting someone else's appearance down in this way!

Well said.

[stonedape]

You can sit on your high horse and pretend like you've never given preferential treatment to someone because they looked nice or had an uncomfortable shock when you see someone with a disfigurement. We all do it. Best we accept it and move along...pretty people have problems too, especially on a show like this.

[CaudleHalbard]

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder!

I do not find JJ physically appealing and it baffles me why so many do. Andrew I don't find ugly - not gorgeous either. Just average.

[Stacey.]

But your first-impressions are always based on looks. Nothing to say that once we get to know them, our opinions won't change.

[starry]

pretty people have problems too, especially on a show like this.

Very true, particularly women who aren't thought to be average enough in their looks or character.

[Livia]

You can sit on your high horse and pretend like you've never given preferential treatment to someone because they looked nice or had an uncomfortable shock when you see someone with a disfigurement. We all do it. Best we accept it and move along...pretty people have problems too, especially on a show like this.

I have no problem with people who are good looking, so long as that's not all they have to offer.

[Angus]

But your first-impressions are always based on looks. Nothing to say that once we get to know them, our opinions won't change.

I agree to some extent, but there are always people who will forgive others any outrageous behaviour so long as they're perceived as "fit", and will patronise and belittle others because they're perceived as ugly, even if they're actually nice people.

[Beso]

This! It has become really tedious listening to the shallow judgements of the idiots on this forum!

Bet most are far from being oil paintings themselves - and it simply makes them, and their insecurities, feel better - putting someone else's appearance down in this way!

which, of course, you just have.:nono:

And just to add, all the so called attractive housemates were boooed on the way in!

[WOMBAI]

You can sit on your high horse and pretend like you've never given preferential treatment to someone because they looked nice or had an uncomfortable shock when you see someone with a disfigurement. We all do it. Best we accept it and move along...pretty people have problems too, especially on a show like this.

Simply accepting it and, therefore, condoning it is not the way forward! If we just accepted racism, sexism, homophobia etc and moved along - where would we be! Silly comment!

[WOMBAI]

which, of course, you just have.:nono:

And just to add, all the so called attractive housemates were boooed on the way in!

It was necessary to make a point!

[Beso]

It was necessary to make a point!

It mutes your point.:sleep:

[stonedape]

I have no problem with people who are good looking, so long as that's not all they have to offer.

And the same goes for people who are bad looking.

Simply accepting it and, therefore, condoning it is not the way forward! If we just accepted racism, sexism, homophobia etc and moved along - where would we be! Silly comment!

Straw men sure are easier to knock down than real ones.

[WOMBAI]

It mutes your point.:sleep:

No it doesn't - as it is probably true that those that judge so harshly do so due to their own insecurities about their own looks - and it makes them feel better to belittle the looks of others! It is a valid point, applicable to the subject matter. Not exactly rocket science!

[Beso]

No it doesn't - as it is probably true that those that judge so harshly do so due to their own insecurities about their own looks - and it makes them feel better to belittle the looks of others! It is a valid point, applicable to the subject matter. Not exactly rocket science!

so what's your excuse for belittling those who belittle?

[WOMBAI]

so what's your excuse for belittling those who belittle?

I have already made that point - if you haven't grasped it - your problem! :sleep:

[-Sue-]

Nice thread OP - far too many people these days 'judge a book by it's cover' and don't bother to see what's inside..so much more to a person than how they look

[Beso]

I have already made that point - if you haven't grasped it - your problem! :sleep:

Then it mutes your point.:spin:

[WOMBAI]

Then it mutes your point.:spin:

Think I'll mute you! :xyxwave:

[Beso]

Think I'll mute you! :xyxwave:


at last.:joker::xyxwave:

[setanta]

Think I'll mute you! :xyxwave:

Lol. Oh, I love when you get all fiery.

[WOMBAI]

Lol. Oh, I love when you get all fiery.

:blush::joker:

[rusticgal]

People are always quick to judge a book by its cover.... whether you are deemed good looking or not.... Thats what makes shows like this interesting because we do get to see what people are like underneath.

[cazzy555]

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder!

I do not find JJ physically appealing and it baffles me why so many do. Andrew I don't find ugly - not gorgeous either. Just average.

I agree with this - the problem is society elevates our perception of people on tv so average suddenly becomes too ugly for TV. It's a shame that this is what society has come to that beauty is seen above intelligence I hope its something were able to get over or we'll evolve into a species of beauties but so dumb we'll never advance.
It has already happened with the music industry - It used to be all about the talent and not looks and now it all pretty people singing covers.

[Captain.Remy]

Being ugly is in at the moment.