Josie and John Jame's relationship

[ibook4113]

I think john James is portrayed badly. Is no-one taking into consideration that he is from another country where there may be different values.
On the channel 4 site at the moment it implies that Josie was one in power to give forgiveness but she was the one that insulted him. And because John James views her as his best friend he feels betrayed when she insults him. The fact that steve said it first is irrelevant as John James (and any normal person) would expect their best friend to be more loyal to them than any other person. (It is not weakness on the part of John James that he didn't pick up on steve insulting him because he doesn't consider Steve his best friend). Josie was in the wrong, Josie gave out an insult, and John james responded out of feeling betrayed.
From what i see John James used to get easily annoyed and break into arguments (with Rachel) but he realised what he was doing and changed. I think everyone believes he argues because he is judged by his looks to be an over-opinionated bullying man. But that isn't the case he never used to look that way, people seem to have forgotten that he said himself he used to be teased by the popular girls for being too skinny, and i think he changed the way he looked to make himself more widely (to public eye) attractive.
The fact that big brother portray him as a bully is hugely annoying, Davina was never able to state her opinion on the housemates but since being a big mouth presenter she has become more opinionated.

Josie on the other hand seems to pick and choose when she is insulted by things based on random events. She insulted him this time out of Jealousy of Keeley (who she believed John James had started flirting with) which isn't good but understandable (she has issues just as john james has). However her lying at him is an insult and is particularly bad when you realise how loyal John James is. Josie laughing is also insulting and rude baring in mind she would finds just a bad stare to be insulting. (Another thing misread in John James, he is from Australia, sun means squinting and low eyebrows, he looks like he is giving a bad stare because he lives in a sunny country).
I really want to like Josie more because she can be funny, but if she continues as she is with john james I will dislike her more and more.

I really hope they sort their issues out, both of them, but my opinion of Josie has dropped alot.

[oddballmisfitsFTW]

good post :thumbs:

my opinion on JJ and Josie has not changed since the start

JJ has gotten plenty of +10s throughtout the show

Josie has got plenty of -10s thoughtout the show

Keeley to win :cheer2: :cheer2: :cheer2: <<<<< this is my new favourite smiley :hugesmile:

[flamingGalah!]

Utter bo**cks...

I'm from Australia & I don't treat women like sh*t....

His arrogance & horrible behaviour has nothing to do with being Australian! :nono:

[oddballmisfitsFTW]

Utter bo**cks...

I'm from Australia & I don't treat women like sh*t....

His arrogance & horrible behaviour has nothing to do with being Australian! :nono:

neither does JJ

[Mystic Mock]

actually my source told me that she didnt say crab eyes the way john james thought,she only repeated what steve had said but he wont argue on steve because he will be scared of what the public will think of him.

[ibook4113]

he isn't arrogant and he doesn't treat women badly, he is easily annoyed by them because his earlier life was made hell by the good looking women.

[flamingGalah!]

neither does JJ

Your love for him has clearly blinkered your vision...

He is a woman hating, aggressive, argumentative twat... :xyxwave:

[ibook4113]

the fact he is australian makes him better, i think his loyalty probably comes from australia.

[flamingGalah!]

he isn't arrogant and he doesn't treat women treat he is easily annoyed by them because his earlier life was made hell by the good looking women.

LOL!!!! :joker:

Some of you people do make me chuckle...

And because he was picked on by pretty girls in primary school, that now gives him the right to treat pretty girls like sh*t?? Don't talk silly...

He should get the ****** over it & grow up...

[flamingGalah!]

the fact he is australian makes him better, i think his loyalty probably comes from australia.

What's being from Australia got to do with anything?? Please explain...

[ibook4113]

Your love for him has clearly blinkered your vision...

He is a woman hating, aggressive, argumentative twat... :xyxwave:

Hardly! he has been insulted by Josie far more than he insulted josie. Just because he is male he is getting portrayed as the bully. HE IS NOT A BULLY.

[flamingGalah!]

Hardly! he has been insulted by Josie far more than he insulted josie. Just because he is male he is getting portrayed as the bully. HE IS NOT A BULLY.

I was thinking more of how he treated Rachael... But yes the way he treats Josie who is supposed to be his best friend in there shows you just how vile he really is...

[ibook4113]

The people in the house (and some outside) think he is a bully argumentative and treats women badly. (an english point of view)
He doesn't reat women like '****' that is rediculous, he has arguments with them but he doesn't walk all over them like some people do.

his sence of LOYALTY comes from australia.

[oddballmisfitsFTW]

actually my source told me that she didnt say crab eyes the way john james thought,she only repeated what steve had said but he wont argue on steve because he will be scared of what the public will think of him.

it started on the bench
he was saying why do you mention crab eyes in front newbies
Josie said what's the big deal with me sayin crab eyes
during the conversation she was calling him a ***** and weirdo as well, but that's ok i guess
JJ said "oh callin me crab eyes, that's alright, so If I called you Josie 5 chins, would that be alright"

same as few weeks ago Josie and Govan takin the piss out of JJ. he said if you dont stop ill start back. Then when he took the piss back Josie starts suckin her thumb and playin the victim, conveniently forgetting she was taking the piss out of him first.

[ibook4113]

I was thinking more of how he treated Rachael... But yes the way he treats Josie who is supposed to be his best friend in there shows you just how vile he really is...

He realised he had done the wrong thing with Rachel , you could see the remorse on his face. And rachel wasn't anyway. Davina tried to make he seem like she had improved in her interview but she clearly hadn't the way she looked at the camera and other people the whole time as if she was the worlds best gift.

[Mystic Mock]

Hardly! he has been insulted by Josie far more than he insulted josie. Just because he is male he is getting portrayed as the bully. HE IS NOT A BULLY.

1. yes he has insaulted josie more fact,because if you count them then you will know that im right.

2. just because shes female dosent mean shes wrong and yes john james can be a bully.

[oddballmisfitsFTW]

1. yes he has insaulted josie more fact,because if you count them then you will know that im right.

2. just because shes female dosent mean shes wrong and yes john james can be a bully.

I guarantee you Josie has insulted JJ WAY more times than JJ insulted her.

[ibook4113]

it started on the bench
he was saying why do you mention crab eyes in front newbies
Josie said what's the big deal with me sayin crab eyes
during the conversation she was calling him a ***** and weirdo as well, but that's ok i guess
JJ said "oh callin me crab eyes, that's alright, so If I called you Josie 5 chins, would that be alright"

same as few weeks ago Josie and Govan takin the piss out of JJ. he said if you dont stop ill start back. Then when he took the piss back Josie starts suckin her thumb and playin the victim, conveniently forgetting she was taking the piss out of him first.

exactly.
Josie seems to change her idea of acceptable on everything she says whereas john has a more steady sence of when and what to say in jest, or as an insult. and she isn't fat, she doesn't have a double chin let alone 99 chins (or whatever it was that john said to her)

[ibook4113]

I guarantee you Josie has insulted JJ WAY more times than JJ insulted her.

Yes, and she always hits him right on the nerves. She always goes for things which he is insulted by.

[flamingGalah!]

He realised he had done the wrong thing with Rachel , you could see the remorse on his face. And rachel wasn't anyway. Davina tried to make he seem like she had improved in her interview but she clearly hadn't the way she looked at the camera and other people the whole time as if she was the worlds best gift.

So what if Rachael thought highly of herself though? Whats it got to do with JJ?? Why did he feel the need to tell her how he felt & upset her when she had done nothing wrong to him?? He is an asshole. He kept on & on at Rachael, picking on every thing she did & said, so yes that IS bullying...

[oddballmisfitsFTW]

he wasn't horrible to rachael. Rachael is a horrible person herself, she is arrogant and bitchy and looks down on people. In the house she was horrible about Sunshine.
JJ saw the nasty arrogant looks she gave people in the house and he pulled her up on it. :thumbs:

[flamingGalah!]

Yes, and she always hits him right on the nerves. She always goes for things which he is insulted by.

As does he.

He likes to dish it out, but he can't take it back...

If he is soooo uber sensitive then he shouldn't slag off & bitch about other people or say things to them which he knows will upset them...

[ibook4113]

So what if Rachael thought highly of herself though? Whats it got to do with JJ?? Why did he feel the need to tell her how he felt & upset her when she had done nothing wrong to him?? He is an asshole. He kept on & on at Rachael, picking on every thing she did & said, so yes that IS bullying...

He may have bullied Rachel but he did appologise and you can't imply he is bullying anyone else - far from it. He was being loud and over the top with Rachel, but he stopped because realised he had been wrong.

[ibook4113]

As does he.

He likes to dish it out, but he can't take it back...

If he is soooo uber sensitive then he shouldn't slag off & bitch about other people or say things to them which he knows will upset them...

He is only rude to people when they are rude to him (not a system i agree with) but better than Josie just insulting him for no reason, changing her opinion of him constantly sending mixed messages.

[flamingGalah!]

he wasn't horrible to rachael. Rachael is a horrible person herself, she is arrogant and bitchy and looks down on people. In the house she was horrible about Sunshine.
JJ saw the nasty arrogant looks she gave people in the house and he pulled her up on it. :thumbs:

Bo**ocks. How exactly was Rachael nasty?? JJ bitches about people far more than Rachael did... And JJ himself screws his ugly mug up like he's licking piss off a thistle when looking at people, but that's ok...

JJ is arrogant, argumentative, nasty & spiteful. :xyxwave:

[flamingGalah!]

He is only rude to people when they are rude to him (not a system i agree with) but better than Josie just insulting him for no reason, changing her opinion of him constantly sending mixed messages.

No he isn't. He slags off & takes the piss out of anyone, if they are rude to him first or not. Josie gave him a taste of his own medicine, which he did not like... good for her.

[ibook4113]

Bo**ocks. How exactly was Rachael nasty?? JJ bitches about people far more than Rachael did... And JJ himself screws his ugly mug up like he's licking piss off a thistle when looking at people, but that's ok...

JJ is arrogant, argumentative, nasty & spiteful. :xyxwave:

Squinting!

JJ doesn't bitch and if he does he is clear to people that he is insulting them. He does play hot and cold constantly. He bitched a little about Corin and brought it up, He bitched about Rachel and brought it up. I was always under the impression bitching was a backhanded thing, and John James is the most upfront person in the whole house.

[oddballmisfitsFTW]

only wrong thing JJ did with Rachael is he went about telling her too longwinded. If I was in there I would have just said something like "Rachael stop being such a bitch about Sunshine, cut out the nasty looks you give everyone and just have a good time"
1 sentence done and move on

[kandykisses]

JOHN JAMES TO WIN :)


JJ Doesnt just pick on girls he argues with everyone, hes bored, and like anyone else in the house just picks at things.
and he loves josie so much, you could tell when he was in the diary room how much he loved josie and cared for her. if anyone else said that to him, hed have argued back, but he was willing to leave just for josie. ((and josie is indeed a girl, a girl he cares for))
im made up they are friends again

xxx

[flamingGalah!]

Squinting!

JJ doesn't bitch and if he doesn't he is clear to people that he is bitching them. He does play hot and cold constantly. He bitched a little about Corin and brought it up, He bitched about Rachel and brought it up. I was always under the impression bitching was a backhanded thing, and John James is the most upfront person in the whole house.

He does. He bitches all the time!! He's the biggest bitch in there!!!

So being horrible to someone is ok as long as they do it to their face? Ok then...

[flamingGalah!]

How come this thread is mostly made up of brand new accountees??

Hmmm, multiple accounts anyone... ;)

[oddballmisfitsFTW]

Bo**ocks. How exactly was Rachael nasty?? JJ bitches about people far more than Rachael did... And JJ himself screws his ugly mug up like he's licking piss off a thistle when looking at people, but that's ok...

JJ is arrogant, argumentative, nasty & spiteful. :xyxwave:

why don't you ask the viewers who voted the nasty bitch out :xyxwave:

[ibook4113]

He does. He bitches all the time!! He's the biggest bitch in there!!!

So being horrible to someone is ok as long as they do it to their face? Ok then...

Unlike Josie, he is not hot and cold constantly.

JOHN JAMES TO WIN :)


JJ Doesnt just pick on girls he argues with everyone, hes bored, and like anyone else in the house just picks at things.
and he loves josie so much, you could tell when he was in the diary room how much he loved josie and cared for her. if anyone else said that to him, hed have argued back, but he was willing to leave just for josie. ((and josie is indeed a girl, a girl he cares for))
im made up they are friends again

xxx

yes that was sweet such a shame they didn't just talk without holding back they would have solved their problems so much quicker.

[ibook4113]

How come this thread is mostly made up of brand new accountees??

Hmmm, multiple accounts anyone... ;)

So the discussion isn't going your way then -- boo hoo

[kandykisses]

How come this thread is mostly made up of brand new accountees??

Hmmm, multiple accounts anyone... ;)

if you are on about me :S
ive only just joined the bb site thingy
didnt even know there was one lol

sorry, just giving my opinion

i gotta start on some thread lol

but i have only got one account, lol
xxx

[flamingGalah!]

why don't you ask the viewers who voted the nasty bitch out :xyxwave:

Well I know full well the voting demographic is built up of mostly teenage girls, so it's plainly obvious that they voted Rachael out through sheer jealousy, it's the same every year & soooo predictable... Any good looking girl, particularly is she has an air of arrogance about her, not to mention having an argument with the bloke they fancy, goes... :xyxwave:

[flamingGalah!]

So the discussion isn't going your way then -- boo hoo

It's not going anyones way love, it's a discussion of differing opinions... :sleep:

[kandykisses]

ibook4113 - yeh it was really sweet :)
they could have resolved it all much quicker lol but josie is stuborn!
love this big brother lol
xx

[gentlejill]

Josie definately has a screw loose and is very jealous of Keeley. If I were John James I would jump ship and make a move on Keeley and watch Josie Squirm. She hasn't got a caring bone in her body for anyone apart from herself

[kandykisses]

Well I know full well the voting demographic is built up of mostly teenage girls, so it's plainly obvious that they voted Rachael out through sheer jealousy, it's the same every year & soooo predictable... Any good looking girl, particularly is she has an air of arrogance about her, not to mention having an argument with the bloke they fancy, goes... :xyxwave:

i would have loved racheal to stay :)
would have made a romance in the house
and everyone, especially teenage girls love it when a romance happens in the house
:)
xx

[oddballmisfitsFTW]

Josie definately has a screw loose and is very jealous of Keeley. If I were John James I would jump ship and make a move on Keeley and watch Josie Squirm. She hasn't got a caring bone in her body for anyone apart from herself

JJ and Keeley would be much better to watch.

Go on JJ ask Keeley if she wants a massage in the garden whilst sunbathing :hugesmile:

Get in there :joker:

[kandykisses]

Josie definately has a screw loose and is very jealous of Keeley. If I were John James I would jump ship and make a move on Keeley and watch Josie Squirm. She hasn't got a caring bone in her body for anyone apart from herself

ii think john james should make a move on keeley lol, they are proper suited
but still think john james and josie should just stay mates.
xx

[gentlejill]

Well I know full well the voting demographic is built up of mostly teenage girls, so it's plainly obvious that they voted Rachael out through sheer jealousy, it's the same every year & soooo predictable... Any good looking girl, particularly is she has an air of arrogance about her, not to mention having an argument with the bloke they fancy, goes... :xyxwave:

It's not only young girls that will vote for him, this 68 yr old will too. He is just sooooooooo cute.

[gentlejill]

ii think john james should make a move on keeley lol, they are proper suited
but still think john james and josie should just stay mates.
xx

UI don't think Josie could be just mates I think she wants to own him like a puppy.

[bbfan1991]

UI don't think Josie could be just mates I think she wants to own him like a puppy.

Is someone bitter because John James likes Josie:p.

[oddballmisfitsFTW]

Well I know full well the voting demographic is built up of mostly teenage girls, so it's plainly obvious that they voted Rachael out through sheer jealousy, it's the same every year & soooo predictable... Any good looking girl, particularly is she has an air of arrogance about her, not to mention having an argument with the bloke they fancy, goes... :xyxwave:

it is nothing to do with "looks" it's attitude. Rachael's attitude stinks.

Samanda BB8 came 2nd, Rachel BB9 1st. They did so well because they were genuinely nice girls as well as being pretty

[flamingGalah!]

It's not only young girls that will vote for him, this 68 yr old will too. He is just sooooooooo cute.

Well yes, anyone that fancies him or admires his treatment of women...

[flamingGalah!]

it is nothing to do with "looks" it's attitude. Rachael's attitude stinks.

Samanda BB8 came 2nd, Rachel BB9 1st. They did so well because they were genuinely nice girls as well as being pretty

Of course it is, don't be so naive!! :joker:

[gentlejill]

Is someone bitter because John James likes Josie:p.

Bitter - what a strange thing to say. I loved Josie till she showed her other side. Her personnally was wicked and she made me ROFL.
You don't get bitter at my age luvvie.

[gentlejill]

Well yes, anyone that fancies him or admires his treatment of women...

He doesn't treat em' bad he is just not had loads of experience with em' that stands out miles.

[kandykisses]

i dont really think jj likes josie in that way :s
i think jj just cares for her as a friend
:S i might be wrong thou lol

i would love a bb romance thou!!
xx

[kandykisses]

Well yes, anyone that fancies him or admires his treatment of women...

i wouldnt say i fancied jj really :S
i just like him as a person
same with mario really
dont fancythem they just make me laugh
xx

[oddballmisfitsFTW]

Of course it is, don't be so naive!! :joker:

read my post and explain how that happened then

[flamingGalah!]

read my post and explain how that happened then

I explained in my original one which you quoted... go read that :xyxwave:

[kandykisses]

lol use guys are worse then the housemates
everyone has there own opinion, and obv everyones isdifferent, but noones is wrong
so just agree to disagree peeps
xxx

[BBfan46]

That's completely bull****. Nothing more to it :)

[ibook4113]

ii think john james should make a move on keeley lol, they are proper suited
but still think john james and josie should just stay mates.
xx

I think they seem like John and Josie could get along but i think if john was friends with Keeley, Josie would be upset. They are both not very good at communicating their feeling about each other. and i think they both have image issues too, which would make a relationship (a proper relationship) between them difficult

[InOne]

At the end of the day, Josie didn't deserve a comment about her weight. No wonder she was put off him, cos he constantly does it. Then to be brought into the DR and emotionally blackmailed so BB can save their golden boy, ridiculous really. I feel for Josie, I swear JJ fans would still liek him if he hit her or something, always coming up with excuses for their poor little JJ.

[oddballmisfitsFTW]

I explained in my original one which you quoted... go read that :xyxwave:

Rachael was voted out because of her attitude and personality.

If she had bad attitude and was ugly she would be voted out just the same

If she was good looking, but was also a nice girl, she would still be in the house now

[oddballmisfitsFTW]

At the end of the day, Josie didn't deserve a comment about her weight. No wonder she was put off him, cos he constantly does it. Then to be brought into the DR and emotionally blackmailed so BB can save their golden boy, ridiculous really. I feel for Josie, I swear JJ fans would still liek him if he hit her or something, always coming up with excuses for their poor little JJ.

Josie threatens to hit him a lot yet she is still liked.

Josie calls him just as bad.

If I was fat I would prefer to be called 5 chins than *****, weirdo and crab eyes

[InOne]

Josie threatens to hit him a lot yet she is still liked.

Josie calls him just as bad.

If I was fat I would prefer to be called 5 chins than *****, weirdo and crab eyes

It's a case of JJ can give but not take basically.

[kandykisses]

JJ can give it but cant take it your absolutly right
but he cant change his personality
xx

[ibook4113]

It's a case of JJ can give but not take basically.

But not really because to John James the comments are more insulting. He doesn't insult people unless they insult him first.

[InOne]

But not really because to John James the comments are more insulting. He doesn't insult people unless they insult him first.

He does, when the banter suits him. But one little thing just sets him off, it's silly.

[ibook4113]

JJ can give it but cant take it your absolutly right
but he cant change his personality
xx

He has got better since the beginning though in terms of controlling himself. He was shouting quite alot in the beginning but now he tends to stay calm. There wasn't any point where he was shouting at Josie with their disagreement, but Josie was shouting at him. She was being more aggressive than him.

[ibook4113]

At the end of the day, Josie didn't deserve a comment about her weight. No wonder she was put off him, cos he constantly does it. Then to be brought into the DR and emotionally blackmailed so BB can save their golden boy, ridiculous really. I feel for Josie, I swear JJ fans would still liek him if he hit her or something, always coming up with excuses for their poor little JJ.

In the argument that started between John James and Corin . Coring was far more intimidating john james was. If it had been the other way around with Corin a man then she probably would have been called up by big brother to calm down.

[oddballmisfitsFTW]

It's a case of JJ can give but not take basically.

I actually agree with this.

But Josie shares this trait as well. She always gives it to JJ, but can't take it when JJ gives it back.

Difference is JJ has no problem taking his share of blame and apologising. Josie thinks she is never in the wrong.

[flamingGalah!]

In the argument that started between John James and Corin . Coring was far more intimidating john james was. If it had been the other way around with Corin a man then she probably would have been called up by big brother to calm down.

And JJ was the one who started on her first, taking the piss out of her & he was deliberately winding her up during the argument as only JJ can do... He knows how to push peoples buttons, yet, once again, goes *******ing mental is anyone dares to push his!

[ibook4113]

I actually agree with this.

But Josie shares this trait as well. She always gives it to JJ, but can't take it when JJ gives it back.

Difference is JJ has no problem taking his share of blame and apologising. Josie thinks she is never in the wrong.

MM through their whole argument John james was constantly apologising. But Josie only apologised when she was in the diary room and it didn't seem genuine. She doesn't realise how much she insults people sometimes.

[kandykisses]

no he shouldnt have shouted at her
but he did
hes stuck in a house, bored
which is no excuse but hes prob justpicking at everything
and he got more insultted when josie said it cuz he cares
xxx

[InOne]

I actually agree with this.

But Josie shares this trait as well. She always gives it to JJ, but can't take it when JJ gives it back.

Difference is JJ has no problem taking his share of blame and apologising. Josie thinks she is never in the wrong.

Dunno, Josie always seems to feel guilty after though, but is too stubborn to tell him, as she often admits. And she has also said a few times "I was a right bitch wasn't I" "I'm a rubbish mate aren't I" kinda thing.

[InOne]

In the argument that started between John James and Corin . Coring was far more intimidating john james was. If it had been the other way around with Corin a man then she probably would have been called up by big brother to calm down.

This isn't about the Corin argument. Plus JJ is a big boy, she just has a loud voice.

[kandykisses]

Josie does realise when shes been a bitch

it just takes JJ a lot longer to realise when hes been a knob

but when they both realise they always make up

love them two!
xxx

[ibook4113]

And JJ was the one who started on her first, taking the piss out of her & he was deliberately winding her up during the argument as only JJ can do... He knows how to push peoples buttons, yet, once again, goes *******ing mental is anyone dares to push his!

He only went mental with Rachel. He didn't with Corin or with Josie.

I don't think he realised he had insulted Rachel or Corin as much as he did. The main insult to Rachel was she expected him to like her and he didn't. Poor her, obviously she was used to getting everything she wanted.

And josie constantly insults him in ways he says he doesn't like. How would you feel if you asked someone to stop teasing a particular way and they didn't.

JJ isn't that difficult really if he says don't say something because he will insult you (or with sunshine take her to the pool) he does it. He doesn't give in like alot of people who want to appear nice all the time. He puts clear boundaries up and if people cross them he is insulted by that.

[InOne]

Josie does realise when shes been a bitch

it just takes JJ a lot longer to realise when hes been a knob

but when they both realise they always make up

love them two!
xxx

JJ is a plonker.

[kandykisses]

Aha. I dont think he is
I think hes dead funnyand caring
xx

[ibook4113]

Dunno, Josie always seems to feel guilty after though, but is too stubborn to tell him, as she often admits. And she has also said a few times "I was a right bitch wasn't I" "I'm a rubbish mate aren't I" kinda thing.

But that is not the same as an apology, JJ has the courage to say sorry but Josie avoids saying it. by implying she is the horrible she puts herself down but also leaves the situation between herself and JJ tense still. If she apologised he would get over it much quicker. Which is what any good friend would do.

[Speedster]

Utter bo**cks...

I'm from Australia & I don't treat women like sh*t....

His arrogance & horrible behaviour has nothing to do with being Australian! :nono:

Absolutely. Respect for your common man -and- woman,manners and decency -are not- qualities you find only in europe, they are or should be universal.

[InOne]

But that is not the same as an apology, JJ has the courage to say sorry but Josie avoids saying it. by implying she is the horrible she puts herself down but also leaves the situation between herself and JJ tense still. If she apologised he would get over it much quicker. Which is what any good friend would do.

It's just who she is, and she should not have to say sorry as it's JJ fault most of the time. But I see St John James can do no wrong in your eyes.

[ibook4113]

It's just who she is, and she should not have to say sorry as it's JJ fault most of the time. But I see St John James can do no wrong in your eyes.

Quite the opposite and the nomination he got was a show that he can go overboard. But he is able to move on and get better. Josie can't, which isn't a good thing.

[Speedster]

actually my source told me that she didnt say crab eyes the way john james thought,she only repeated what steve had said but he wont argue on steve because he will be scared of what the public will think of him.

The guy's scared of being punched if he starts picking on blokes. This is the guy afterall who said he's scared of Keeley. He's a bully because he ONLY picks on those he believes to be weaker than him.

[ibook4113]

The guy's scared of being punched if he starts picking on blokes. This is the guy afterall who said he's scared of Keeley. He's a bully because he ONLY picks on those he believes to be weaker than him.

Corin is definitely not weaker than him, and neither is Josie.

Sunshine constantly played the martyr card. and so did Rachel.

[flamingGalah!]

Corin is definitely not weaker than him, and neither is Josie.

Sunshine constantly played the martyr card. and so did Rachel.

Of course they are weaker than him!! He's a bloke!! :rolleyes:

They didn't play the martyr card, he was a ****** to them...

[Speedster]

he isn't arrogant and he doesn't treat women badly, he is easily annoyed by them because his earlier life was made hell by the good looking women.

I'm confined to a wheelchair because I was born with a broken spine, from the time I was 9 to when I was 13, I went to a "mainstream" school-a school for able-bodied kids. Non of the kids would talk to me because I was disabled.

From the time I was 13 to when I was 16, I was verbally abused, threatened, and physically assaulted almost every single day. But I had to learn that just because -some- people are bast***s, doesn't mean they all are.

Most "non disabled" people are really nice and will go out of their way to be helpful if/when I need it.

JJ has no excuse, the world is full of people, just because some weren't nice in his past doesn't mean they won't be in his future.If he expects to be liked and respected, he should be willing to like others and show respect.

[ibook4113]

I'm confined to a wheelchair because I was born with a broken spine, from the time I was 9 to when I was 13, I went to a "mainstream" school-a school for able-bodied kids. Non of the kids would talk to me because I was disabled.

From the time I was 13 to when I was 16, I was verbally abused, threatened, and physically assaulted almost every single day. But I had to learn that just because -some- people are bast***s, doesn't mean they all are.

Most "non disabled" people are really nice and will go out of their way to be helpful if/when I need it.

JJ has no excuse, the world is full of people, just because some weren't nice in his past doesn't mean they won't be in his future.If he expects to be liked and respected, he should be willing to like others and show respect.

But there are things in our past that happen and can affect our lives without us realising. He probably wasn't as strong a person as your are.

[ibook4113]

Of course they are weaker than him!! He's a bloke!! :rolleyes:

They didn't play the martyr card, he was a ****** to them...

And just because someone is a women doesn't not mean they are weaker than a man. (or visa versa)

[Speedster]

Rachael was voted out because of her attitude and personality.

If she had bad attitude and was ugly she would be voted out just the same

If she was good looking, but was also a nice girl, she would still be in the house now

Right, so why's ife up for eviction? she's pretty and nice afterall.

[Speedster]

JJ can give it but cant take it your absolutly right
but he cant change his personality
xx

Oh, well that's ok then.

[Speedster]

no he shouldnt have shouted at her
but he did
hes stuck in a house, bored
which is no excuse but hes prob justpicking at everything
and he got more insultted when josie said it cuz he cares
xxx

He's bored? tough, he wanted to get on the show and spent a lot of money flying 1000's of miles to audition for the show. And if he doesn't like it he can always sod off.

[Speedster]

But there are things in our past that happen and can affect our lives without us realising. He probably wasn't as strong a person as your are.

Thank you for saying I'm strong, but I don't think I am. I just know that we're all individuals and just because 1 person is bad doesn't mean others'll be.

I think jj is a wimp if he intends to go through life with such a deluded outlook.