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Vicky.
14-07-2010, 02:23 PM
Right, to start with, this is about noone in particular. I have been criticized a lot during the past few days for having opinions on housemates/commenting in certain threads etc.

Now, do you prefer a mod who chats openly with you all, whilst dealing with reports/closing threads etc, or a mod who doesn't really speak at all...but just does their job, with the odd comment about a thread being closed or something.


I don't see any reason why I shouldn't post here too...I really don't. But obviously, some people do :S

Smithy
14-07-2010, 02:24 PM
If they disagree with you Vicky, just ban them :p

Shaun
14-07-2010, 02:26 PM
I don't know which to pick. Like - I don't think moderators should be this antisocial entity who don't really have a clue about the goings-on of the site...so I lean more to the second option.

However I think there's the possibility of friendships being formed and that is always going to conflict with a moderator's supposed non-bias.

Tom4784
14-07-2010, 02:27 PM
Mods are members too so they should be able to interact and such, as long as they can maintain a neutral position during any mod activities then it shouldn't matter.

setanta
14-07-2010, 02:28 PM
If it doesn't affect their impartiality and objectivity on certain matters then I don't see a problem.

Vicky.
14-07-2010, 02:29 PM
I don't know which to pick. Like - I don't think moderators should be this antisocial entity who don't really have a clue about the goings-on of the site...so I lean more to the second option.

However I think there's the possibility of friendships being formed and that is always going to conflict with a moderator's supposed non-bias.

Very good point.

I suppose there are plus and minus points to everything.

See if I had been a moderator BEFORE a member, I would probably be less chatty and that, but primarily, I joined the forum to talk about BB, and really don't see any reason why that should stop now :/

Niamh.
14-07-2010, 02:29 PM
absolutely option two, I'm sure if admin thought that a mod was being bias or unfair they would step in.

Patrick
14-07-2010, 02:32 PM
Don't be a James type that only talks when he closes threads and that lol

I like Mods like you and Ben that can have a laugh and stuff.

BOOSH
14-07-2010, 02:32 PM
"I dont see a problem with mods chatting, as long as they do their job too "

CaraRawr
14-07-2010, 02:56 PM
Mods are members too so they should be able to interact and such, as long as they can maintain a neutral position during any mod activities then it shouldn't matter.

I agree.

MissKittyFantastico
14-07-2010, 03:00 PM
I actually think that mods should be faceless, for example, on the Everton forum where my Gaz is a mod, he has his 'normal' account which he signed up with, which he uses to chat on, and his 'Moderator' account which is nameless and faceless and noone on there knows who the mods are (apart from the admin obviously). It cuts out a lot of accusations of bias, mods being given a hard time on their regular account, and means the mods can chat on their own accounts like any other member,while using the mod account to do their job. It works really well, but I doubt it would even be considered on here.

Jack_
14-07-2010, 03:02 PM
I actually think that mods should be faceless, for example, on the Everton forum where my Gaz is a mod, he has his 'normal' account which he signed up with, which he uses to chat on, and his 'Moderator' account which is nameless and faceless and noone on there knows who the mods are (apart from the admin obviously). It cuts out a lot of accusations of bias etc, and means the mods can chat on their own accounts like any other member,while using the mod account to do their job. It works really well, but I doubt it would even be considered on here.

That's a good idea actually.

But on topic - I personally hate it when mods don't or feel like they can't chat with the other members. It's not fair.

Niamh.
14-07-2010, 03:03 PM
I actually think that mods should be faceless, for example, on the Everton forum where my Gaz is a mod, he has his 'normal' account which he signed up with, which he uses to chat on, and his 'Moderator' account which is nameless and faceless and noone on there knows who the mods are (apart from the admin obviously). It cuts out a lot of accusations of bias etc, and means the mods can chat on their own accounts like any other member,while using the mod account to do their job. It works really well, but I doubt it would even be considered on here.

That's a really good idea actually

Smithy
14-07-2010, 03:03 PM
Is anyone else waiting for stick to come and mention his science forum? :p

MissKittyFantastico
14-07-2010, 03:05 PM
That's a good idea actually.

But on topic - I personally hate it when mods don't or feel like they can't chat with the other members. It's not fair.

That's a really good idea actually

It does work really well, and it would stop mods (like Vicky who I see getting a lot of crap on here for doing her job) from getting targeted by members who take up issue with them giving out infractions etc.

Vicky.
14-07-2010, 03:05 PM
I actually think that mods should be faceless, for example, on the Everton forum where my Gaz is a mod, he has his 'normal' account which he signed up with, which he uses to chat on, and his 'Moderator' account which is nameless and faceless and noone on there knows who the mods are (apart from the admin obviously). It cuts out a lot of accusations of bias, mods being given a hard time on their regular account, and means the mods can chat on their own accounts like any other member,while using the mod account to do their job. It works really well, but I doubt it would even be considered on here.

That would be brilliant actually.

MeMyselfAndI
14-07-2010, 03:06 PM
well as long as a mod is not biast
well there are mods that are biast now
some people dont get banned for death threats
whilst some get banned for saying "Joe doesnt have a girlfriend"

i think Nate would be biast
he kicks me from all tiny chat
so he'll ban unfairly and forgive unfairly

setanta
14-07-2010, 03:08 PM
Well, if that was used on here you wouldn't have half as many people wanting to be mods. It would be a good idea though, and anyone caught revealing that they are a moderator on another account should be automatically stripped of the title. Would work a treat.

Niamh.
14-07-2010, 03:09 PM
Is anyone else waiting for stick to come and mention his science forum? :p

hahaha, yeah:joker:

Vicky.
14-07-2010, 03:10 PM
Well, if that was used on here you wouldn't have half as many people wanting to be mods. It would be a good idea though, and anyone caught revealing that they are a moderator on another account should be automatically stripped of the title. Would work a treat.

This too.

Yes, I am really liking the idea of that, I doubt they would change things over now though, unfortunately.

MissKittyFantastico
14-07-2010, 03:13 PM
Is anyone else waiting for stick to come and mention his science forum? :p

:laugh2:


I doubt they will change it on here now, but it was just a suggestion, and I actually think it might encourage more people suited to the job of being mod but who don't want the **** that comes with it sometimes, to apply. If you're not biased and not doing it for 'forum status' then I don't see the issue of being incognito.

setanta
14-07-2010, 03:16 PM
well as long as a mod is not biast
well there are mods that are biast now
some people dont get banned for death threats
whilst some get banned for saying "Joe doesnt have a girlfriend"


I agree with this to a certain extent. There's absolutely no consistency at times.

InOne
14-07-2010, 03:18 PM
It is a nice idea, but we're on the last BB. And after that the forum could hit a sudden dramatic decline.

Smithy
14-07-2010, 03:19 PM
It is a nice idea, but we're on the last BB. And after that the forum could hit a sudden dramatic decline.

tbh a lot of the big arguments have happened on off season

Vicky.
14-07-2010, 03:24 PM
tbh a lot of the big arguments have happened on off season

Yeah I agree with this.

InOne
14-07-2010, 03:25 PM
Yes, but it will be off season forever lol How many do you think are gonna stick around?

Firewire
14-07-2010, 03:26 PM
Second option.

Stacey.
14-07-2010, 03:29 PM
Some mods are biased. It's fairly obvious.. and it's obvious who would be if they to become a mod.

But I think it's cool if they talk and do their job too. But I don't get... do mods like have rules and follow them if they see 'offensive language' or something.. or do they give infractions/bans if they think it's offensive or insulting? If that makes any sense..

InOne
14-07-2010, 03:33 PM
Some mods are biased. It's fairly obvious.. and it's obvious who would be if they to become a mod.

But I think it's cool if they talk and do their job too. But I don't get... do mods like have rules and follow them if they see 'offensive language' or something.. or do they give infractions/bans if they think it's offensive or insulting? If that makes any sense..

:shocked: Who?

Locke.
14-07-2010, 03:37 PM
http://i32.tinypic.com/2i7wrh2.jpg

Vicky.
14-07-2010, 03:41 PM
But I think it's cool if they talk and do their job too. But I don't get... do mods like have rules and follow them if they see 'offensive language' or something.. or do they give infractions/bans if they think it's offensive or insulting? If that makes any sense..

A bit of both stacey.

Though a lot of 'offensive' posts are not seen until days afterwards, in that case, its a bit useless giving infractions. The main thing people need to remember, is we do not read EVERY post, so if there is anything offensive, they need to report it incase we havent seen it.

On the other hand, people slagging off your favorite housemate, is NOT offensive unless they are going really over the top and saying they should die or something.

Also onto insults. See, its pointless reporting someone insulting you, and then going back to insult the person who insulted you...if that makes sense. Because if it is just a huge slagging match, either both will be banned, or the posts just deleted. Unless the other person is blatantly baiting you into an argument in the first place...if that makes sense...Report and ignore.

Stacey.
14-07-2010, 03:48 PM
A bit of both stacey.

Though a lot of 'offensive' posts are not seen until days afterwards, in that case, its a bit useless giving infractions. The main thing people need to remember, is we do not read EVERY post, so if there is anything offensive, they need to report it incase we havent seen it.

On the other hand, people slagging off your favorite housemate, is NOT offensive unless they are going really over the top and saying they should die or something.

Also onto insults. See, its pointless reporting someone insulting you, and then going back to insult the person who insulted you...if that makes sense. Because if it is just a huge slagging match, either both will be banned, or the posts just deleted. Unless the other person is blatantly baiting you into an argument in the first place...if that makes sense...Report and ignore.

Oh right. Thanks :) I get that.

Patrick
14-07-2010, 03:49 PM
Is anyone else waiting for stick to come and mention his science forum? :p

:joker::joker::joker::joker::joker::joker::joker:

Patrick
14-07-2010, 03:50 PM
http://i32.tinypic.com/2i7wrh2.jpg

rofl.

Shasown
14-07-2010, 03:51 PM
Is anyone else waiting for stick to come and mention his science forum? :p

Yeah its been a while since a certain science based astronomy forum has been mentioned.

Right, to start with, this is about noone in particular. I have been criticized a lot during the past few days for having opinions on housemates/commenting in certain threads etc.

Now, do you prefer a mod who chats openly with you all, whilst dealing with reports/closing threads etc, or a mod who doesn't really speak at all...but just does their job, with the odd comment about a thread being closed or something.


I don't see any reason why I shouldn't post here too...I really don't. But obviously, some people do :S

I dont think mods posting opinions on forums affects the standard of the forum. Moderators dont get to be moderators generally unless they can do their job objectively.

On this forum in particular I havent really seen any mod let their personal beliefs interfere with their job, as for personal criticism of yourself, if someone has a complaint about a mod they can take it up with either the admin or the owner, so whats their beef? Probably just feeling sorry for themselves and lashing out. Take it with the proverbial pinch of salt Vicky.

Braden
14-07-2010, 03:54 PM
Obviously someone who is a conversationalist, yet they still blend in with the forum members and doesn't take to much authority.

Patrick
14-07-2010, 03:54 PM
tbh a lot of the big arguments have happened on off season

Agree.
Faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaar more happen on Off Season.

On Season use to be good now it's been ruined by trollish chavs who seem to forget what the Shift or Caps Lock button is for when making a new thread, I swear I hate seeing threads with no capital at the start.

And then of course you have trolls acussing long term posters of being trolls :rolleyes:

Nothing compared to off season though.

Some mods are biased. It's fairly obvious.. and it's obvious who would be if they to become a mod.



Who is biased?

I think James hates me but when he gives me a infraction I don't think it's his way of doing it because he hates me I suppose he would do it to anyone although he does give you infractions for some things while others get away with it..

I got an infraction for doing this one time..

':joker::joker:'

Exactly, lol But no one else did but Idk.

Vicky isn't biased either, Me and her get along fine but she has given me infractions in the past when needed too.

Is it another mod you mean that's biased?

arista
14-07-2010, 03:58 PM
This Thread is Not needed
Just Allow Vicky to Post
and do her job.

If Anyone feels she is wrong
PM her
or PM James.


Life In The Fast Lane.

Patrick
14-07-2010, 04:01 PM
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Life In The Fast Lane.[/B]

Twilight
14-07-2010, 04:09 PM
"I don't see a problem with mods chatting, as long as they do their job too"
^^ And just so people know Vicky isn't bias, she as given me a lot of infractions on here, and i get on with her.

30stone
14-07-2010, 04:15 PM
It can be hard to stick to things like consistancy..

So hard when people complain.. make second accounts.. and generally just insult you, becuase they got a ban for doing something againast the rules.
It can get very hard to be consistant in the punishment you give out.

It comes down to, if you break the rules, accept your punishment, if you feel you have been unfairly treated through a bias mod contact an admin via pm and they can take action if they so wish.


Generally im here to chat, and i clean up and sort out what i can.
I try my best not to be bias, although im sure loads think i am.

Miss Ivy Balls
14-07-2010, 04:35 PM
It can be hard to stick to things like consistancy..

So hard when people complain.. make second accounts.. and generally just insult you, becuase they got a ban for doing something againast the rules.
It can get very hard to be consistant in the punishment you give out.

It comes down to, if you break the rules, accept your punishment, if you feel you have been unfairly treated through a bias mod contact an admin via pm and they can take action if they so wish.


Generally im here to chat, and i clean up and sort out what i can.
I try my best not to be bias, although im sure loads think i am.

hmmmm. Not a great thing to say. No mod should be bias.

Miss Ivy Balls
14-07-2010, 04:37 PM
I selected option one because I think mods should have a separate account if they want to chat on the forum.