Anyone else think the Save/Replace isnt fair?

[cheapbbfan]

I think all housemates should participate in these. The top nominated player can replace and the top non-nominated player gets immunity. I dont think its quite fair that people can go up that werent even nominated without at least having a chance to protect themselves

[Chels]

I thought it was unfair as soon as Rachael was evicted in week one.

[Lex]

In as much as....it's saved Quaver ' twice' ....then Yes!!

But in my heart....I have to say....it was a good twist....but is turning stale now!

[Visage]

It adds a little spice to the show.

It's cruel yeah, but it's also great to watch them squirm as they wait to see who's going to be chosen.

[Blueisthecolour]

I would keep it, but instead of choosing a random housemate to go, the two people the winner nominated that week should be announced and the winner would have to pick one of them.

That would liven things up a bit.

[Visage]

In as much as....it's saved Quaver ' twice' ....then Yes!!

But in my heart....I have to say....it was a good twist....but is turning stale now!

In the past when the nominations are revealed most of the housemates feel a little relief, now though with this twist, they have to wait a little longer to see what their destiny is.

[Visage]

I would keep it, but instead of choosing a random housemate to go, the two people the winner nominated that week should be announced and the winner would have to pick one of them.

That would liven things up a bit.

Ooh that's bad, but I like it:D

[Beastie]

I think it is a good twist but I want Keeva to piss off and not win another S+R task if she is up!!

[Visage]

I think it is a good twist but I want Keeva to piss off and not win another S+R task if she is up!!

I think she's starting to gain more fans, would be interesting to see how it would go if she was up though.

[Niamh.]

Of course it's fair, it means that we might avoid deadwood hanging in there by default. If the HM is popular they don't have to worry, the public decides!

[ElProximo]

I think all housemates should participate in these. The top nominated player can replace and the top non-nominated player gets immunity. I dont think its quite fair that people can go up that werent even nominated without at least having a chance to protect themselves

Agree.
It pretty much makes a mockery of the nomination process and what happens for me the viewer is that now I don't care about nomination day. Why should I bother?
Whoever is nominated is just going to get changed by one person.
Seriously.. now I don't even bother watching noms or bother caring who is initially nominate.

[Niamh.]

I think it is a good twist but I want Keeva to piss off and not win another S+R task if she is up!!

I like Caoimhe now, she was so hated and the S&R has given her time to redeem herself

[stoney]

it should make them a little more tactical with nominations.

I would nom Steve each week cos he would have a hard time with most of the s+r tasks so far lol

[MissKittyFantastico]

I like it because it helps stop the block voting a bit (not that there's been any this year anyway tbh) and it also means that we get a chance to get the boring ones out!

At the end of the day I think everyone needs to be up at some point anyway to see if the public actually want them in there, noone should get a free ride to the final!

[Beastie]

I like Caoimhe now, she was so hated and the S&R has given her time to redeem herself

She hasn't redeemed herself in my opinion. I think once she is up.. she is out!! I bloody hope she is up this week.

[Beastie]

I like it because it helps stop the block voting a bit (not that there's been any this year anyway tbh) and it also means that we get a chance to get the boring ones out!

At the end of the day I think everyone needs to be up at some point anyway to see if the public actually want them in there, noone should get a free ride to the final!

Agree. Would love them all up one week!

[Niamh.]

She hasn't redeemed herself in my opinion. I think once she is up.. she is out!! I bloody hope she is up this week.

well that's just your oopinion, she has to alot of people though

[GiRTh]

It's unfair for sure. Popularity in the house doesn't mean anything anymore. If the person who wins the S&R has an issues with any HM then they put them up whether they're popular with the other HM's or not. That goes against the grain of the show IMO.

Too much tampering with the format is one of the main reasons why the shows been canceled.

[GiRTh]

I like Caoimhe now, she was so hated and the S&R has given her time to redeem herselfShe'll probably still be up next week whether you like her or not. Winning these S&R tasks seem to be making her even more unpopular in the house.

[flamingGalah!]

I don't think it's fair at all, especially from the first eviction of Rachael... :nono:

It does kind of make the housemates nominations a bit pointless, why not just have the whole lot of them up for eviction every week & let the public vote out the least popular...

[JEJ]

I would keep it, but instead of choosing a random housemate to go, the two people the winner nominated that week should be announced and the winner would have to pick one of them.

That would liven things up a bit.

Great idea but Quaver nominated Ife and Corin this week, now she's put Mario up she's nominated all three, she must be rubbing her hands with glee!

[chuff me dizzy]

I liked it at first ,but i think its run its course now ,mind you without it Nathan would still be there so some goods come from it

[Hero1]

Proper unfair, they should all be allowed to participate for sure, if not for anything else but to be able to save themselves during the veto task.

[bansheewails]

I love the save and replace task. If we had it last year we could of had that spiteful lisa out in week one. With a bit of luck Ife will be out tonight, yay! :D

[setanta]

I enjoy it. Anything to mix it up a little within the house and add something different to the format.

[Stacey.]

I don't think it's fair. Don't like it at all.

As Govan said in week 1, what's the point of them even nominating?

[Angus]

The S&R Task ensures that no-one can be certain of flying under the radar. Who cares who's popular in the house, they don't have to sit and watch the snoozefests we often have to endure, (like the JJ&J crap this past week:bored:). The viewers are in control and are often handed the dullards on a plate via the S&R Task, so I'm all for it.

[arista]

I think all housemates should participate in these. The top nominated player can replace and the top non-nominated player gets immunity. I dont think its quite fair that people can go up that werent even nominated without at least having a chance to protect themselves


Of Course it
is nasty and unfair,
but that Evil Side is what gives the Final Ch4 Contract
some well needed Edge.

[Visage]

Too much tampering with the format is one of the main reasons why the shows been canceled.

I do see where you're coming from, but sometimes things need a change, for fear of becoming stale.


There's never going to be a format that everyone will agree on, whether it's sticking with the old or moving with the times.

[WOMBAI]

I think all housemates should participate in these. The top nominated player can replace and the top non-nominated player gets immunity. I dont think its quite fair that people can go up that werent even nominated without at least having a chance to protect themselves

The game isn't meant to be fair! People just don't like it because it means their precious favs have gone or could go despite not being nominated! Thems the breaks, as they say!

[Shiner]

I think it's not fair for some of the reasons already mentioned but mainly because the process of nominating has always been anonymous, this just flies in the face of dishing out punishments for speaking about noms.

To those that say it is fair because it puts the radar dodgers up, think about it this way - the only people that get to take part in the S/R task are the house's least favourite HMs therefore the only people put up are least close to them ie. popular HMs. Is that fair?

[cheapbbfan]

Its a good twist but I think EVERYONE should have a chance to protect themselves. The way it is, its more advantageous to get nominated bc then you at least have a shot of saving yourself

The game isn't meant to be fair! People just don't like it because it means their precious favs have gone or could go despite not being nominated! Thems the breaks, as they say!Um not really bc it could have easily saved my fave, Corin this week.


I think it's not fair for some of the reasons already mentioned but mainly because the process of nominating has always been anonymous, this just flies in the face of dishing out punishments for speaking about noms.

Ditto. I think it exposes who nominated who. They can front all they want, but once the nominee chooses soemone new, it gives away who they want out to the entire group.

[Angus]

I think it's not fair for some of the reasons already mentioned but mainly because the process of nominating has always been anonymous, this just flies in the face of dishing out punishments for speaking about noms.

To those that say it is fair because it puts the radar dodgers up, think about it this way - the only people that get to take part in the S/R task are the house's least favourite HMs therefore the only people put up are least close to them ie. popular HMs. Is that fair?

Yes, and if they're popular with the public they will survive the public vote.

[Beastie]

Yes, and if they're popular with the public they will survive the public vote.

This. No need to worry if you are already popular ;)

[eye sea]

And Nathan's proof that save and replace can be cruel and unfair.

[Shiner]

Yes, and if they're popular with the public they will survive the public vote.

But that is not the OPs question, that's just an explanation of the voting system which I believe we all understand already.
The question is about fairness. It is not fair because it polarises the ones to be replaced by their popularity with the least popular in the house. It is not democratic.

[boomoo]

It adds a little spice to the show.

It's cruel yeah, but it's also great to watch them squirm as they wait to see who's going to be chosen.

It is good because it prevents people like last year's Lisa being in the last week.
It would also have given Freddie a chance to save himself.

[boomoo]

I would keep it, but instead of choosing a random housemate to go, the two people the winner nominated that week should be announced and the winner would have to pick one of them.

That would liven things up a bit.

But Caiomhe had nominated Ife and Corin so she had to choose someone else.
Miserable Mario nominated Caiomhe. So why exactly did he think he should not be put up by her.

Last week she had nominated Nathan so she chose him.He nominated her.

[setanta]

And Nathan's proof that save and replace can be cruel and unfair.

Yep, it was magic, wasn't it?