Was BB right to give Sam a warning for 'teabagging'?

[Ammi]

Do you think BB was right to do this. It seems to me that they may have only did it because Josie used the phrase 'sexual harrassment'. I thought Josie threw something at Sam in the garden first. Is this not dangerous? It could have hit him in the eye and he would have ended up like Steve. Where was her warning for that? When the other HM's put the 'thumb gum' on Sam's toothbrush we were told it had been prescribed for Josie. Are there not warnings on all prescribed medication that it shouldn't be taken by anyone else? What if Sam were allergic?
Are we the viewers so offended by the teabagging, with everything we've seen over the years on BB. When BB had the male stripper in the house for the ignore task, he was trusting his crotch in everyones face. Double standards and inconsistency, these are what have killed BB. By the way I am loving Sam. At last we have a newbies who is not interested in going in and just 'blending'.
Peace out Sam

[Zippy]

Well he had done it at least twice and I think they just didnt want him to keep doing that sort of thing. It can come across worse than it is on TV, especially live feed when you may not see close up.

And he did pre-empty the warning by saying he knew it was wrong so...

[janaddy86]

I didn't see the full lead up to it, only him mounting her face.

There was a similar incident on Australian Big Brother a few years which got a lot of attention. One guy held a girl down and the other teabagged her. Both the guys got ejected.

[Ammi]

I didn't see the full lead up to it, only him mounting her face.

There was a similar incident on Australian Big Brother a few years which got a lot of attention. One guy held a girl down and the other teabagged her. Both the guys got ejected.

That sounds more serious when someone is held down and its 2 versus 1. Its not that I have a problem with the warning as such, but it should have been balanced out by other warnings about throwing objects and the thumb gum incident. I wonder BB would have bothered if Josie hadn't mentioned 'sexual harrassment'

[janaddy86]

That sounds more serious when someone is held down and its 2 versus 1. Its not that I have a problem with the warning as such, but it should have been balanced out by other warnings about throwing objects and the thumb gum incident. I wonder BB would have bothered if Josie hadn't mentioned 'sexual harrassment'

I do agree it does sound more serious. We don't know what warnings the other housemates got for their actions unfortunately.

I think in the past housemates have had warnings about throwing stuff.

[Ammi]

I do agree it does sound more serious. We don't know what warnings the other housemates got for their actions unfortunately.

I think in the past housemates have had warnings about throwing stuff.


This is true and there may well have been other warnings, but once again BB bias is just showing Sam's warning. They know in doing this it turns all Josie's fans against Sam and therefore doesn't give him a chance when he is up for eviction. (which will be as soon as he can be nominated, judging their discomfort with him!)

[Visage]

I don't think it cam across as fun for mot viewers ( I could be wrong) but I believe BB just wanted to nip it in the butt in case it got out of hand.


No pun intended, honest) ;)

Or is it nip it in he bud ?

[fivecougz]

He rubbed his crotch on her mouth. It IS sexual harrassment. Simple as that, nothing to debate here.

[Beso]

she loved it.

[Ammi]

He rubbed his crotch on her mouth. It IS sexual harrassment. Simple as that, nothing to debate here.

Well some people say that there is always a debate, however whether it was or wasn't, Sam is not the only one who should have been seen to be getting a warning. Throwing objects is dangerous. Giving someone prescribed medication is reckless. BB's lack of consistency and bias is soooooo tedious

[joeysteele]

I'd say YES but they also added that not only for Josie but it could be something that may offend people watching the programme too.Which begs a further point, what could not be offensive to thepaying, viewing voting public in hearing a housemate in any context say F.. THE PUBLIC, I DON'T GIVE A F... FOR THE PUBLIC, by John James that didn't even warrant him being pulled up about it so there are a few double standards from BB on that one.

[Zippy]

I love Sam but I think it was a fair warning. I dont think Josie herself was hugely offended but most women would be if it kept happening by a relative stranger. And its on TV so CH4 have to think about the message it may send out; that its ok for guys to thrust their crotch in womens faces for a laugh.

And its really not the same as throwing things etc either.

[smudgie]

I am loving Sam for the way he has livened the house up, but he does need reigning in now and then, the warning seemes fair to me.

[ange7]

Well he had done it at least twice and I think they just didnt want him to keep doing that sort of thing. It can come across worse than it is on TV, especially live feed when you may not see close up.

And he did pre-empty the warning by saying he knew it was wrong so...

well if he did "pre-empty" than that's fine then is it? If I warn someone that I'm going to punch them in the nose that makes it fine too? Strange.

[WOMBAI]

I wish bb would 'pre-empty' us when they are going to televise the Josie/JJ show - then we could switch off!

[Ammi]

I'd say YES but they also added that not only for Josie but it could be something that may offend people watching the programme too.Which begs a further point, what could not be offensive to thepaying, viewing voting public in hearing a housemate in any context say F.. THE PUBLIC, I DON'T GIVE A F... FOR THE PUBLIC, by John James that didn't even warrant him being pulled up about it so there are a few double standards from BB on that one.

Excellent point - its not whether the teabagging offends or not cos thats a matter of opinion. Its BB's double standards which seem to be worse this year than any other. No matter what rules are broken its a case of should we take away hot water? should we take away the food budget? should we stop people from nominating? Perhaps we will, perhaps we wont, depends whether we can be arsed or not.

[Ammi]

well if he did "pre-empty" than that's fine then is it? If I warn someone that I'm going to punch them in the nose that makes it fine too? Strange.
Yeah its always strange how anything involving something sexual apparantly is worse than any aggressive act

[Zippy]

well if he did "pre-empty" than that's fine then is it? If I warn someone that I'm going to punch them in the nose that makes it fine too? Strange.


My point was that he acknowledged he was in the wrong before it even needed to be spelt out. :rolleyes:

FFS do I have to draw diagrams for the likes of you?

[Jamietwo]

i didn't see him teabagging josie just jumping on her a few times, which is a bit much if it's all the time...did he actually dangle his naked testicles into her mouth?

[Rawrbear]

Erm no i think bb should only of warned sam if he put his bare balls inn he rmouth

[Livia]

If he'd done that to me, he'd have been on his way home with his balls in a bag, the little sh1t.

[Jordan.]

No, they were having a laugh and BB had to go ruin it like always. If they asked Josie if it offended her and she said it did then it was fair to warn him but Josie said she didnt care.

[Raph]

Yeah, let him have some fun already!

[Abhorsen]

He rubbed his crotch on her mouth. It IS sexual harrassment. Simple as that, nothing to debate here.

Well said.

Sam is a wanker. If he did that in the outside world he get arrested.

One day Sam is going to come up against someone who won't be as polite as Josie.

[Livia]

Yeah, let him have some fun already!

Seriously? You'd be happy to have him do that to your girl? Or your sister? Do you think that would be "fun"?

[watchinittoomuch]

Good thing it wasnt Mario....it would have been pillowcasing and Josie would have smothered.

[ange7]

My point was that he acknowledged he was in the wrong before it even needed to be spelt out. :rolleyes:

FFS do I have to draw diagrams for the likes of you?
I should have "pre-emptied" that.

[Visage]

No, they were having a laugh and BB had to go ruin it like always. If they asked Josie if it offended her and she said it did then it was fair to warn him but Josie said she didnt care.

Whether it offended her or not, I still think BB stepping in was the right thing. If he was seen to get away with behaving like this, who knows what it it could lead to.


I am not saying Sam was in the wrong, but a case of getting too carried away with the fun.

We don't know if Josie was offended or not, remember we watch the edited version.

[stickydatepudding]

Of course they were right to warn him, you can't just go up to someone and rub your genitals in their face without their consent. And there's always a big pressure on the woman not to complain, look how Sunshine was treated for complaining about John James exposing her underwear, and Camilla in AusBB's infamous turkey slap copped a lot of undeserved flack too:


There was a similar incident on Australian Big Brother a few years which got a lot of attention. One guy held a girl down and the other teabagged her. Both the guys got ejected.

[Crimson Dynamo]

The main warning should have been about being so unfunny it was painful to watch

[kelswife]

Well said.

Sam is a wanker. If he did that in the outside world he get arrested.

One day Sam is going to come up against someone who won't be as polite as Josie.

I think thats why he did it to Josie, imagine if he would have done it to corin, she would have smacked him in the mouth, the annoying little ****

[JEJ]

I'm liking what Sam's bringing to the house but if he'd done that to me I'd have ripped them off! Of course they were right to speak to him.

[Shiner]

The official warning is just the BB hypocrites being seen to do the right thing. It was they themselves that showed the clip in the first place purely because of it's potential "shock" value... hence the disclaimer at the head of the show.
By the sounds of it he admitted it was a joke too far, so needn't have been pulled up for it.

[fivecougz]

I think some people here are forgetting that if you rub your crotch onto a girls mouth in public without her consent you're committing a sexual offense by law. That's a simple FACT.

Just because this is on tv and just because Josie was good spirited about it doesn't change the fact that what Sam did IS sexual misconduct. Sorry, but he crossed the line.

[Forever_Young]

If he'd done that to me, he'd have been on his way home with his balls in a bag, the little sh1t.

lol I said something similar out loud when he done that to Josie. It def warranted a warning, and think Josie handled situation quite well..couldnt have been nice but she had a little joke about it when she could have got him into alot more trouble

[Jamietwo]

yeah he needed a warning. as someone above said, if he'd done it to Corin he'd have got a slap...I believe he sees Josie as easy prey...which wether he sees it that way or not ...it is bullying ...definitely...Josie was under pressure to find it funny.

[Shiner]

I think some people here are forgetting that if you rub your crotch onto a girls mouth in public without her consent you're committing a sexual offense by law. That's a simple FACT.

Just because this is on tv and just because Josie was good spirited about it doesn't change the fact that what Sam did IS sexual misconduct. Sorry, but he crossed the line.

So is flashing. Double standards?

[Visage]

By the sounds of it he admitted it was a joke too far, so needn't have been pulled up for it.

Yes, but did he admit this once BB called him on it.

If they hadn't pulled him up, he might not have seen it that way, and if that was the case, how far would he have gone with his funny pranks.

I think it warranted the warning, to avoid any possible further upset.


Jokes can be fun, but sometimes one can go too far.

[setanta]

Of course they were right to have a word with him, but sure I doubt it will have any effect, given that he said "I guess I went a bit too far." The chap is clueless.

[Shiner]

Yes, but did he admit this once BB called him on it.

If they hadn't pulled him up, he might not have seen it that way, and if that was the case, how far would he have gone with his funny pranks.

I think it warranted the warning, to avoid any possible further upset.


Jokes can be fun, but sometimes one can go too far.

Fair enough. I didn't see it myself, I'd only read on here that he'd said it before getting pulled in.

[AngelChair]

If he'd done that to me, he'd have been on his way home with his balls in a bag, the little sh1t.


I like your style Livia!

[Shasown]

If he'd done that to me, he'd have been on his way home with his balls in a bag, the little sh1t.

I presume you mean in a different bag than the one he carries them in already. Now even I would pay to watch that, you removing his two veg that is.

[Beetrum]

yeah that's like sexual harassment.

[Pink Pegasus]

I really like Sam so far and think he is adding some much needed energy and interest to the show, however I think it was right that he was warned for that.
Josie didn't seem to mind, but I think she was a bit shocked and embarrassed by it all, she did manage to give a good comeback and laugh it off though.

I would have either cried a little bit with shock, or else gone flippin mental and gotten kicked out of the house if someone shoved a fckn ballbag in my mouth!!

I think he was only having a laugh though, but it would have been a bit much to let it go without a warning.

All that aside, I'm really enjoying him in the house so far. :-)

[AquaShots]

she loved it.

Did you find that in the book "Things Rapists Say"?

[Jords]

A warning was fair imo, people saying he should be ejected are over-reacting, after all Josie took it in good spirit herself.