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poejoe
05-08-2010, 09:02 AM
she admitted last night that she lied on her cv that she never had 'any so made up 6 and trew a nvq in as well. to brag about this shows she doesn't have any morals and is a cheat and liar:devil:
WOMBAI
05-08-2010, 09:03 AM
she admitted last night that she lied on her cv that she never had 'any so made up 6 and trew a nvq in as well. to brag about this shows she doesn't have any morals and is a cheat and liar:devil:
Speaks volumes about her character! She has lied a lot on the show as well, we know that! She definitely can't be trusted!
mummymaz
05-08-2010, 09:05 AM
I lied on mine, said i had my maths gcse - got into Uni and got a 1st .. hardly the crime of the century is it?!
rosebay11
05-08-2010, 09:05 AM
she admitted last night that she lied on her cv that she never had 'any so made up 6 and trew a nvq in as well. to brag about this shows she doesn't have any morals and is a cheat and liar:devil:
sorry poejoe - I don't understand what this is about.
poejoe
05-08-2010, 09:18 AM
I lied on mine, said i had my maths gcse - got into Uni and got a 1st .. hardly the crime of the century is it?!
people work hard for qualifications so don't think its fair people getting jobs and uni places through lying. and if your clever enough to get a 1st why didn't you just sit your maths gcse
Talulabelle
05-08-2010, 09:19 AM
A woman recently got a prison sentence for lying on her cv!! That is WAY too harsh but it shows how seriously they're taking the matter now.
WOMBAI
05-08-2010, 09:43 AM
A woman recently got a prison sentence for lying on her cv!! That is WAY too harsh but it shows how seriously they're taking the matter now.
It is fraud! The company employing someone are paying them to do a job - and if they are not qualified to do that job properly, when they claimed they were, then it costs the employer money - potential loss of business, having to re-hire someone else etc.
Same with a university - certain qualifications are required to prove a person's ability to undertake a particular course - if they fake them - and fail the course - they waste everyone's time and money and prevent someone who could of completed the course from getting a place!
Niamh.
05-08-2010, 09:44 AM
lmao, no body here has ever lied on their CV???
Angus
05-08-2010, 09:46 AM
she admitted last night that she lied on her cv that she never had 'any so made up 6 and trew a nvq in as well. to brag about this shows she doesn't have any morals and is a cheat and liar:devil:
Well since she has limited options for photoshoots (be honest, can you see her duvet clad form in the Nuts centrefold?) she's shot herself in the foot with prospective employers, particularly now that lying on your CV about your qualifications has been made an offence.
In any case I would never believe in a million years she had any qualifications since she has no conversation, only banter, and shows her ignorance every time she opens her thumb-filled gob.
Angus
05-08-2010, 09:50 AM
I lied on mine, said i had my maths gcse - got into Uni and got a 1st .. hardly the crime of the century is it?!
Actually it is now deemed an offence to lie about your qualifications to an employer.It can mean instant dismissal, which probably explains why she can't hold down a job on the outside. It wouldn't take long for an employer to realise that she is in fact as thick as sh*t.
Maybe Unis aren't that fussed considering the dumbing down of the degrees these days. The GCSEs and A Levels are also of a laughable standard compared to 30 odd years ago.
fizzy
05-08-2010, 10:02 AM
I think it's alright, everyone makes mistake, what narks me is Josie in her C4 BB profile claims to hate liars & cheats, she's pretending to be a paradigm of morality and fairness.
WOMBAI
05-08-2010, 10:08 AM
I think it's alright, everyone makes mistake, what narks me is Josie in her C4 BB profile claims to hate liars & cheats, she's pretending to be a paradigm of morality and fairness.
She also said on last night's show that she hates rude and arrogant people - incredible - when she has clearly shown herself to be not only rude and arrogant, but a liar and a cheat! Woman has simply exposed herself for the fraud that she is!
Shiner
05-08-2010, 10:10 AM
Well since she has limited options for photoshoots (be honest, can you see her duvet clad form in the Nuts centrefold?) she's shot herself in the foot with prospective employers, particularly now that lying on your CV about your qualifications has been made an offence.
In any case I would never believe in a million years she had any qualifications since she has no conversation, only banter, and shows her ignorance every time she opens her thumb-filled gob.
It's all cool. I remember a conversation in the nest a few weeks ago about all the photo-shoots and media jobs etc. once they get out and Josie turning around and telling the guys (and not at all for the benefit of the cameras) that she fancied going to work in an old folks home a few days a week after she gets out because the work they do is so hard. I'm sure they won't be too bothered about her fake quallies. :joker::joker:
yousoboo!
05-08-2010, 10:11 AM
I lied loads on my CV.
She probably said she was interesting on it as well!
Angus
05-08-2010, 10:15 AM
It's all cool. I remember a conversation in the nest a few weeks ago about all the photo-shoots and media jobs etc. once they get out and Josie turning around and telling the guys (and not at all for the benefit of the cameras) that she fancied going to work in an old folks home a few days a week after she gets out because the work they do is so hard. I'm sure they won't be too bothered about her fake quallies. :joker::joker:
Well I hate to rain on your parade, but she needs to pass a Criminal Records Bureau check to look after vulnerable old people which she would fail because of her past indiscretions (cough), and I guarantee someone as lazy and slothful as her would not be allowed anywhere near them.
Talulabelle
05-08-2010, 10:16 AM
It is fraud! The company employing someone are paying them to do a job - and if they are not qualified to do that job properly, when they claimed they were, then it costs the employer money - potential loss of business, having to re-hire someone else etc.
Same with a university - certain qualifications are required to prove a person's ability to undertake a particular course - if they fake them - and fail the course - they waste everyone's time and prevent someone who could of completed the course from getting a place!
I think you've misunderstood. I was trying to point out to the others who were being a bit blasé about the whole thing how seriously its taken now. I agree that its totally the wrong thing to do, I just think a prison sentence is far too harsh especially as the woman in question had never been in trouble before. Until about a year ago I worked in crown court and have seen people (men, needless to say) who are back to court for their fourth violent offence in the space of a few years and they STILL havent received a custodial sentence. Thats only one example of hundreds I could give.
charmingmissc
05-08-2010, 10:18 AM
Well I hate to rain on your parade, but she needs to pass a Criminal Records Bureau check to look after vulnerable old people which she would fail because of her past indiscretions (cough), and I guarantee someone as lazy and slothful as her would not be allowed anywhere near them.
they have one before they are accepted into bb.
WOMBAI
05-08-2010, 10:22 AM
I think you've misunderstood. I was trying to point out to the others who were being a bit blasé about the whole thing how seriously its taken now. I agree that its totally the wrong thing to do, I just think a prison sentence is far too harsh especially as the woman in question had never been in trouble before. Until about a year ago I worked in crown court and have seen people (men, needless to say) who are back to court for their fourth violent offence in the space of a few years and they STILL havent received a custodial sentence. Thats only one example of hundreds I could give.
Oh I agree with your point that in comparison to other crimes ie violence it is relatively minor - but more serious than some of the kids on here understand - some see it as a joke - when it clearly isn't.
Unfortunately - the system has always had double-standards when it comes to women committing crimes - many women are/have been in prison for not paying their tv licence or resulting fines - whereas men who commit violent crimes, sexual crimes, make threats of violence and intimidation, muggers etc get away with a lot more. The whole system is sexist and should be reviewed.
fizzy
05-08-2010, 10:22 AM
She also said on last night's show that she hates rude and arrogant people - incredible - when she has clearly shown herself to be not only rude and arrogant, but a liar and a cheat! Woman has simply exposed herself for the fraud that she is!
I feel sorry for her though, given her life story
WOMBAI
05-08-2010, 10:26 AM
I feel sorry for her though, given her life story
I don't - we all have life stories that are far from perfect but don't behave the way she does.
Then there is Steve - whose life was completely turned upside down from a very young age - making his choices in life very limited - but look how some talk about him! He deserves more sympathy than her - and has dealt with adversity in a much more admirable way!
wilful_woodpecker
05-08-2010, 10:30 AM
I feel sorry for her though, given her life story
we can empathise, but that doesn't mean she should lie and / or cheat her way to a job
sunshine and JJ1 and steve all have reasons we could feel sorry for ... so do I, in fact, but I don't and won't tell lies on my cv
Shiner
05-08-2010, 10:31 AM
Well I hate to rain on your parade, but she needs to pass a Criminal Records Bureau check to look after vulnerable old people which she would fail because of her past indiscretions (cough), and I guarantee someone as lazy and slothful as her would not be allowed anywhere near them.
Has she got form like?
edit : Oh and I was just quoting her for being a tit and saying it. I wasn't even suggesting that she would do it for real.
Talulabelle
05-08-2010, 10:32 AM
Oh I agree with your point that in comparison to other crimes ie violence it is relatively minor - but more serious than some of the kids on here understand -some see it as a joke - when it clearly isn't.
Unfortunately - the system has always had double-standards when it comes to women committing crimes - many women are/have been in prison for not paying their tv licence or resulting fines - whereas men who commit violent crimes, sexual crimes, make threats of violence and intimidation, muggers etc get away with a lot more. The whole system is sexist and should be reviewed.
Absolutely, without wanting to make this off topic, the situation is made much worse by the overcrowding in men's prisons, probation staff doing pre-sentence reports are also encouraged to recommend community sentences in most cases. It makes it so much more difficult for men to be given the sentence they genuinely deserve.
Anyway, back to the fat-fingered, lying, hypocrital heffer! lol
yousoboo!
05-08-2010, 10:32 AM
we can empathise, but that doesn't mean she should lie and / or cheat her way to a job
sunshine and JJ1 and steve all have reasons we could feel sorry for ... so do I, in fact, but I don't and won't tell lies on my cv
millions of people cheat and lie in the workplace everyday. doesn't mean they are evil people. get real ffs.
WOMBAI
05-08-2010, 10:37 AM
millions of people cheat and lie in the workplace everyday. doesn't mean they are evil people. get real ffs.
Maybe - but now they face criminal prosecution for doing so - like it or not!
Personally - I would rather know and be able to trust that someone doing certain jobs, probably most jobs, are qualified to do that job properly - as failure to do so could have serious ramifications for others.
watchinittoomuch
05-08-2010, 10:38 AM
When she gets a job as a brain surgeon, I'll start to worry.
Until then, I dont think anyone need panic :wink:
fizzy
05-08-2010, 10:39 AM
millions of people cheat and lie in the workplace everyday. doesn't mean they are evil people. get real ffs.
I agree with this
mummymaz
05-08-2010, 10:44 AM
people work hard for qualifications so don't think its fair people getting jobs and uni places through lying. and if your clever enough to get a 1st why didn't you just sit your maths gcse
well i did, i was a mature student anyways - they dont check when you are over 21 .. i couldnt be bothered is the simple answer - i got my degree, got a decent job, have a good life... no need for algebra etc in my life .. i did get 11 other GCSE's and 4 A-Levels btw :xyxwave:
mummymaz
05-08-2010, 10:47 AM
Actually it is now deemed an offence to lie about your qualifications to an employer.It can mean instant dismissal, which probably explains why she can't hold down a job on the outside. It wouldn't take long for an employer to realise that she is in fact as thick as sh*t.
Maybe Unis aren't that fussed considering the dumbing down of the degrees these days. The GCSEs and A Levels are also of a laughable standard compared to 30 odd years ago.
I sense you are trying to be dismissive of my degree and University choice, i would correct you but really its not worth my time. :elephant:
Shiner
05-08-2010, 10:56 AM
Maybe - but now they face criminal prosecution for doing so - like it or not!
Personally - I would rather know and be able to trust that someone doing certain jobs, probably most jobs, are qualified to do that job properly - as failure to do so could have serious ramifications for others.
There's an old business management idiom that goes along the lines of... most people are not sufficiently qualified for the position they currently hold, otherwise they would get promoted out of it.
Is it any wonder this country is going to the dogs? :rolleyes:...... :joker:
Angus
05-08-2010, 11:20 AM
lmao, no body here has ever lied on their CV???
Of course they have, but it is now an offence to do so, and can even result in a prison sentence if the ramifications of the lie cause harm, such as in cases where people have lied about their medical qualifications and then gone on to perform surgery and give diagnoses and treatment they are not qualified to do. Extreme cases I know, but it is also a form of fraud in that an employer is being deceived into paying a salary to someone who is not fit for purpose. Not only does it carry a sanction of instant dismissal with no recourse to tribunal, but it is also prosecutable in law if the company's reputation or finances have been damaged by hiring a person under false pretences. Not to mention the fact that the liar has cheated a competent candidate out of a job.
pixee
05-08-2010, 11:21 AM
Am I missing something why would you need/think you need qualifications to go on BB?
Angus
05-08-2010, 11:26 AM
I sense you are trying to be dismissive of my degree and University choice, i would correct you but really its not worth my time. :elephant:
Actually I was not attacking you personally at all and I'm sorry if it came across that way.
It's the education system in this country that is at fault, since I believe it is not fit for purpose and ill equips a lot of youngsters for working life. As a mother I have been appalled at the low expectations of schools, and the standards of the GCSE and A level exams (which I took myself many moons ago), HAS dropped considerably which really does not ultimately help kids at all. By dumbing down qualifications, all that is happening is that they are gradually being made meaningless.
Am I missing something why would you need/think you need qualifications to go on BB?
If you were dumb enough not to have any? ;)
Julie10
05-08-2010, 12:05 PM
I lied on mine, said i had my maths gcse - got into Uni and got a 1st .. hardly the crime of the century is it?!
It is a lie and in some cases a sackable offence!:nono:
I wouldn't normally defend Josie but I don't see much harm coming from faking a few GCSEs, it's not like she's practising medicine fraudulently.
Aside from entry to higher education when they are obviously a good indicator of a person's ability to apply themselves to study, providing the person is numerate and literate, (which would soon become obvious if they weren't) I can't really see any benefits to a potential employer.
I certainly fibbed about the grades obtained in my O levels/CSEs (for the younger members, GCSEs for old people!) but to be honest, after my first job, nobody even asked.
Julie10
05-08-2010, 12:09 PM
Well I hate to rain on your parade, but she needs to pass a Criminal Records Bureau check to look after vulnerable old people which she would fail because of her past indiscretions (cough), and I guarantee someone as lazy and slothful as her would not be allowed anywhere near them.
They'd probably find her under the duvet every five minutes.
They'd probably find her under the duvet every five minutes.
Lol!
pixee
05-08-2010, 12:15 PM
If you were dumb enough not to have any? ;)
haha fair point.
All i will say on this about people saying "oh everyone does it"
I wouldn't do it for fear of being caught out. I can understand if you don't think you have a good CV you would want to make stuff up though it is only human nature, insecurity or what ever.
Talulabelle
05-08-2010, 12:39 PM
Of course they have, but it is now an offence to do so, and can even result in a prison sentence if the ramifications of the lie cause harm, such as in cases where people have lied about their medical qualifications and then gone on to perform surgery and give diagnoses and treatment they are not qualified to do. ........
Actually, thats not quite accurate. The woman I mentioned only applied for an admin job and lied about having A levels (two of them) - she was jailed for 6 months, so causing harm is not required to justify a custodial sentence.
Apologies for my earlier post though as she had been in trouble once before but not for this particular crime.
Stacey.
05-08-2010, 12:42 PM
I don't like her or anything, but I can't see it really matters.
Talulabelle
05-08-2010, 12:43 PM
Am I missing something why would you need/think you need qualifications to go on BB?
Yes, you're missing something. If you read the beginning of the thread you'll see it was about josie making a comment about making up qualifications she didnt have (not to get on bb tho). It has now generated a mass debate :hugesmile: about lying on cv's.
daniel-lewis-1985
05-08-2010, 12:45 PM
My c.v says i have 3 b's which is a lie. I did very poor in school and i think its wrong to judge someone going for a potential job on exams they sat when they were a 15 year old child!
WOMBAI
05-08-2010, 12:54 PM
I don't like her or anything, but I can't see it really matters.
It matters - would you like a nurse or doctor looking after you who wasn't properly qualified - or a mechanic fixing your families car who wasn't qualified to fix it properly, or a builder to build your house who wasn't suitably skilled, knowledgeable or qualified - etc - the list goes on!
It is important not only for safety reasons but to ensure people get the service they pay for!
daniel-lewis-1985
05-08-2010, 12:58 PM
It matters - would you like a nurse or doctor looking after you who wasn't properly qualified - or a mechanic fixing your families car who wasn't qualified to fix it properly, or a builder to build your house who wasn't suitably skilled, knowledgeable or qualified - etc - the list goes on!
It is important not only for safety reasons but to ensure people get the service they pay for!
Dont be rediculous lol when you go for a job as a nurse or a mechanic etc you are provided with extensive training lol
You dont become a nurse or a a doctor from getting a's in your G.C.S.E'S lol
One of the most stupidest responses ive ever read on tibb
Beastie
05-08-2010, 01:00 PM
My CV is truthful. Well.. I still don't have my level 2 ICT skills certificate.. I have been meaning to ring college about that but I am sure I have passed it. I have been in the same job though for like over a year.. I hope they give me full time then I am sorted..hopefully don't need to keep updating my CV!!
I did okay in GCSES.. I got my C's in Maths and Enlish Lang and a B in English Lit :) (well I did fail Maths first time round, retook it.. and got a C)
I got double D in Science.. wish I got double C.. it will cost me like hundreds of pounds to retake my science though.. I don't need it.. but would have been nice if I got double C in it!! ahh well :)
Ooo I also have Btec National Diploma worth 3 alevels!! I got a pass in that. It was either pass, merit or distinction. I got merit in a few units though!
I would have gone to university if I didn't have the job I have now.. but that would have been for the sake of it!!
If something happens.. like.. if I end up loosing the job I have now.. mm might go travelling or something!! lol but I am quite content in the job I have now :)
Anyway.. back to the point of the topic.. I think it is okay.. to tell a few porkies if you really want the job!! lol
It matters - would you like a nurse or doctor looking after you who wasn't properly qualified - or a mechanic fixing your families car who wasn't qualified to fix it properly, or a builder to build your house who wasn't suitably skilled, knowledgeable or qualified - etc - the list goes on!
It is important not only for safety reasons but to ensure people get the service they pay for!
Don't get me wrong, Wombai, I dislike her (almost ;) ) as much as you do but GCSEs for a job in sales?
Beastie
05-08-2010, 01:06 PM
I feel sorry for the girl who genuinely had gcses and a levels.. she applied for over 200 jobs.. got rejected.. she got so depressed she killed herself :( poor girl!!
I think in sales though.. if you are like 16 looking for a job then you have more chance in sales because the company pay a 16 year old less than an 18 year old?
but anyways times are tough and you just have to grab whatever job there is available.. even if it does seem.. "beneath you".
smudgie
05-08-2010, 01:06 PM
Josie comes across as not that bright at times so I think she would be sussed out before long if she was in a job where any real qualifications were of any importance.
As to lying about it, I agree it should be a criminal offence, why shoud someone work hard to get to uni etc and get into debt once there if it was okay just to lie about it?
Beastie
05-08-2010, 01:07 PM
Apparently Josie was really good in her sales job though???
smudgie
05-08-2010, 01:11 PM
Apparently Josie was really good in her sales job though???
I think it could be one of those jobs that depend more on people skills than qualifications. Too much emphasis on qualifications these days for some jobs.
She can come across as a warm hearted people person at times.
Apparently Josie was really good in her sales job though???
I can believe that, she'd hang on like a pit bull until you bought something!
rosebay11
05-08-2010, 01:15 PM
Employers, on the whole, are quite astute, IMO, at picking up on give-away details, re false info given on the CV. They can generally take most of it with a "grain of salt" anyway - particularly where the person boosts up their personality.
It's like people taking lie detecter tests give themesves away on an involuntary basis - which they can't help.
WOMBAI
05-08-2010, 01:27 PM
Dont be rediculous lol when you go for a nurse or a mechanic etc you are provided with extensive training lol
You dont become a nurse or a builder from getting a's in your G.C.S.E'S lol
One of the most stupidest responses ive read on tibb
You can't of read many responses then! :joker:
Yes you are provided with extensive training for those professions but you need to get the grades to get on your training in the first place! Lying about qualifications only serves to waste other people's time and money! Certainly it has been known for people to slip through the net - although much harder nowadays because people's qualifications are thoroughly checked!
But their are many jobs where you don't receive such extensive training that still require certain skills and abilities/qualifications in order to provide a safe and effective service to customers/clients!
And nobody deserves anything to be handed to them on a plate - they have to work for it like everybody else!
WOMBAI
05-08-2010, 01:32 PM
Don't get me wrong, Wombai, I dislike her (almost ;) ) as much as you do but GCSEs for a job in sales?
Well I guess it depends what she was selling and at what level ie a sales manager! If, for instance, the job required a knowledge and understanding of maths ie percentages, ratios - and a maths qualification was required for the job - and she faked it - she might not be able to do the job effectively and provide both the employer and the customer with the service they are entitled to.
daniel-lewis-1985
05-08-2010, 01:42 PM
You can't of read many responses then! :joker:
Yes you are provided with extensive training for those professions but you need to get the grades to get on your training in the first place! Lying about qualifications only serves to waste other people's time and money! Certainly it has been known for people to slip through the net - although much harder nowadays because people's qualifications are thoroughly checked!
But their are many jobs where you don't receive such extensive training that still require certain skills and abilities/qualifications in order to provide a safe and effective service to customers/clients!
And nobody deserves anything to be handed to them on a plate - they have to work for it like everybody else!
All jobs provide the right training and if they dont then thats the employers fault. My mum didnt do very well in school coz she had to look after her dad/my grandad who was poorly throughout her child hood. After many years of factory jobs and general crapness she started training o be a nurse with no qualifications.
Anyway now shes in charge of 3 wards at Prince Charles Hospital in Wales and im proper proud of her.
Cant believe you think that to become a doctor you need g.c.s.e's lol this is wrong. You would have to go to uni and get qualifications in medical studies theres no way you could possibly become a nurse/doctor without them.
G.c.s.e's are worthless in those type of proffesions
I myself got a sales job which paid £23,000 a year when i was 21 all because i lied about my qualifications and previous work experience i was good at the job thats all that mattered.
Its dog eat dog mate we all need jobs and some people didnt get the best start in life but can progress in their careers. Work experience is far more effective than a stupid little qualifacation they earned when they were a 15 year old kid
Abhorsen
05-08-2010, 01:46 PM
She probably said she was interesting on it as well!
LOL. And she's a real blonde.
WOMBAI
05-08-2010, 01:52 PM
All jobs provide the right training and if they dont then thats the employers fault. My mum didnt do very well in school coz she had to look after her dad/my grandad who was poorly throughout her child hood. After many years of factory jobs and general crapness she started training o be a nurse with no qualifications.
Anyway now shes in charge of 3 wards at Prince Charles Hospital in Wales and im proper proud of her.
Cant believe you think that to become a doctor you need g.c.s.e's lol this is wrong. You would have to go to uni and get qualifications in medical studies theres no way you could possibly become a nurse/doctor without them.
G.c.s.e's are worthless in those type of proffesions
I myself got a sales job which paid £23,000 a year when i was 21 all because i lied about my qualifications and previous work experience i was good at the job thats all that mattered.
Its dog eat dog mate we all need jobs and some people didnt get the best start in life but can progress in their careers. Work experience is far more effective than a stupid little qualifacation they earned when they were a 15 year old kid
Wrong - I am a newly qualified nurse - and most certainly did have to have 0' Levels/GCSEs to get on my training, including maths! An ability to be good at figures is important in drug calculations - if you calculate a drug dosage incorrectly you could kill someone!
Abhorsen
05-08-2010, 01:54 PM
It matters - would you like a nurse or doctor looking after you who wasn't properly qualified - or a mechanic fixing your families car who wasn't qualified to fix it properly, or a builder to build your house who wasn't suitably skilled, knowledgeable or qualified - etc - the list goes on!
It is important not only for safety reasons but to ensure people get the service they pay for!
Good point.
daniel-lewis-1985
05-08-2010, 01:56 PM
Wrong - I am a newly qualified nurse - and most certainly did have to have 0' Levels/GCSEs to get on my training, including maths! An ability to be good at figures is important in drug calculations - if you calculate a drug dosage incorrectly you could kill someone!
My mum was provided with all the necesary training. Thats what im saying they didnt just throw her into the job.
Maybe shes just a one off then coz she incharge of 3 wards and your just a nurse? Whos done better for themselves?
MissKittyFantastico
05-08-2010, 01:59 PM
I don't like liars and I don't think lying on a CV to get a job is acceptable at all tbh.
What she's done is different to 'tweaking' it a bit to make her look a bit more impressive, she's completely lied about having exams and an NVQ (which involves a lot of hard work to get, I know I've got two myself) when she hasn't actually achieved any of it. Shows a total lack of morals and someone who was qualified for the jobs she went for will have missed out due to her lies. It's a criminal offence and rightly so.
WOMBAI
05-08-2010, 02:01 PM
My mum was provided with all the necesary training. Thats what im saying they didnt just throw her into the job.
Maybe shes just a one off then coz she incharge of 3 wards and your just a nurse? Whos done better for themselves?
I have only just qualified - I no doubt will end up managing a ward in the future!
Nurses have always required qualifications to enter their training as far as I am aware - so don't know about your mum. Is she a proper qualified Registered Nurse or an HCA.
Maybe she attended one of the access courses that provide those without GCSEs etc with the relevant qualifications to get on to nurse training - she couldn't have got on with nothing!
Abhorsen
05-08-2010, 02:11 PM
Cant believe you think that to become a doctor you need g.c.s.e's lol this is wrong. You would have to go to uni and get qualifications in medical studies theres no way you could possibly become a nurse/doctor without them.
G.c.s.e's are worthless in those type of proffesions
I myself got a sales job which paid £23,000 a year when i was 21 all because i lied about my qualifications and previous work experience i was good at the job thats all that mattered.
Its dog eat dog mate we all need jobs and some people didnt get the best start in life but can progress in their careers. Work experience is far more effective than a stupid little qualifacation they earned when they were a 15 year old kid
RLMAO.
Where do you start?
I know you're replying to Wombi there but...
You cannot compare sales to MEDICINE!!! Anyone can go into sales.
You DO need to have GCSES, A Levels or similar QUALIFICATIONS - not fantasy ones - to get into med school. Also, Wombies comments about maths being essential for nursing is an excellent point.
Look, lying about qualifications to sell mops door to door is no big deal, or if you fancy a *career* in road sweeping lie to your hearts content - hey tell them you have a doctorate!!! who gives a s***. But you cannot get away with (legally) lying to get into med school - you get found out and even if you are now a doctor and you get stuck off!
A nurse overdosing a patient due to a miscalculation is no joke, it happens far too often, which is one reason why they are getting even more tough on them.
Tell you what, quick quiz, which one of these three guys would you like managing your (cancer) morphine intake?
A. 39 year old ex bus driver who lied and said he has the qualifications to be a nurse but doesn't.
B. 41 year old *nurse* from a country where their med qualification can't be checked (who turns out to have lied just to pass the work restrictions to stay in the UK) but is in fact a farmer.
C. 25 year old state registered nurse who has honestly passed all the necessary qualification for her job.
The older two have more *experience* as you put it, but pity that experience just happens to be in farming and bus driving. You get overdosed.
Abhorsen
05-08-2010, 02:13 PM
Maybe shes just a one off then coz she incharge of 3 wards and your just a nurse? Whos done better for themselves?
Cheap shot. :nono:
Beastie
05-08-2010, 08:42 PM
I don't like liars and I don't think lying on a CV to get a job is acceptable at all tbh.
What she's done is different to 'tweaking' it a bit to make her look a bit more impressive, she's completely lied about having exams and an NVQ (which involves a lot of hard work to get, I know I've got two myself) when she hasn't actually achieved any of it. Shows a total lack of morals and someone who was qualified for the jobs she went for will have missed out due to her lies. It's a criminal offence and rightly so.
You should be a police woman Michelle ;)
Beastie
05-08-2010, 08:44 PM
RLMAO.
Where do you start?
I know you're replying to Wombi there but...
You cannot compare sales to MEDICINE!!! Anyone can go into sales.
You DO need to have GCSES, A Levels or similar QUALIFICATIONS - not fantasy ones - to get into med school. Also, Wombies comments about maths being essential for nursing is an excellent point.
Look, lying about qualifications to sell mops door to door is no big deal, or if you fancy a *career* in road sweeping lie to your hearts content - hey tell them you have a doctorate!!! who gives a s***. But you cannot get away with (legally) lying to get into med school - you get found out and even if you are now a doctor and you get stuck off!
A nurse overdosing a patient due to a miscalculation is no joke, it happens far too often, which is one reason why they are getting even more tough on them.
Tell you what, quick quiz, which one of these three guys would you like managing your (cancer) morphine intake?
A. 39 year old ex bus driver who lied and said he has the qualifications to be a nurse but doesn't.
B. 41 year old *nurse* from a country where their med qualification can't be checked (who turns out to have lied just to pass the work restrictions to stay in the UK) but is in fact a farmer.
C. 25 year old state registered nurse who has honestly passed all the necessary qualification for her job.
The older two have more *experience* as you put it, but pity that experience just happens to be in farming and bus driving. You get overdosed.
I like the sound of the farmer. So I pick B!
bigbrothermaniac008
05-08-2010, 08:50 PM
Pleanty of people exagerate, But its easy to find out if your lying
Grimnir
05-08-2010, 08:50 PM
she is prepared to swear on her mum's life to lie as well as seen in another thread
her "relationship" is fake and a lie
it is part of her gameplan and also she DOES want to sell her story after its over as Sam said
reason she got so annoyed is because the truth hurts
the lady doth protest too much :nono:
toothpick
05-08-2010, 08:51 PM
It is fraud! The company employing someone are paying them to do a job - and if they are not qualified to do that job properly, when they claimed they were, then it costs the employer money - potential loss of business, having to re-hire someone else etc.
Same with a university - certain qualifications are required to prove a person's ability to undertake a particular course - if they fake them - and fail the course - they waste everyone's time and money and prevent someone who could of completed the course from getting a place!
i wonder what level of qualifications steve has.....im assuming he left at 16 and joined the army with the rest of the thicko's!
Livia
05-08-2010, 09:18 PM
Lying to your prospective employer about your qualifications is a daft idea. If you get the job and they find out you lied, it's gross misconduct and you're out on your ear. Plus it's not difficult to spot the people who come laden with "qualifications" but don't seem to be able to construct a proper sentence. As for people saying qualifications aren't important, it's an employers market. There are a lot of well-qualified people looking for jobs, so why would anyone employ someone who couldn't be bothered to take their exams?
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