Burn-a-Koran day on Sunday Sept 11 2010 USA

[arista]

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2010/09/08/article-1310035-0B0944E3000005DC-635_468x313.jpg


You would think the Police in America would stop this Event.
It appears to be going ahead
if he is still alive on sunday.

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2010/09/08/article-1310035-0B131395000005DC-576_468x319.jpg
Defiant: The Reverend Terry Jones outside his church with a sign advertising his September 11 book-burning protest

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1310035/Rev-Terry-Jones-carry-9-11-koran-burning-despite-death-threats.html#ixzz0z0vxTyaY



Sign Of The Times

[ange7]

There are many mongs, ******* and ******* wits that want to make a DIRECT link between ALL Muslims and 9/11. They pop up in the most unlikely places.
Reverend Terry Jones is an ubber c*ck munch. The word "Defiant" implies he is taking a heroic stand. I think he is drumming up business for his church and isn't choosy about who joins. He is preaching hate and intolerance and is no better than the radical fundamentalist variety of Muslims that do the same.

[arista]

Rev Jones
now makes sure his Gun is with him
at all times.

[ange7]

"if he is still alive on sunday."
"now makes sure his Gun is with him"

this makes it sound like Rev Jones is the victim. As though he is blameless and not trying to start something. Arista feels for Rev Jones.
In fact he is the mong, and like Al-Qaeda is in the fear business. Intolerance and hate keep him employed because that's what the locals in his area want to hear. The retarded @ss rimmers want to see a DIRECT link between 9/11 and the wider moderate Muslim community. Too bad for him that the majority of Americans disagree.

[ILoveTRW]

TBH burn every religious book in the world and we would all be better off.

[ange7]

TBH burn every religious book in the world and we would all be better off.
"TBH" others in history have tried out your book burning philosophy. Guess who?

[Omen]

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[arista]

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2010/09/07/article-1309696-0B119793000005DC-162_226x347.jpg
Jones has his own book.


Barrack the US President
spoke about this and said he should not do it. (on abc news)
Why does he not arrest him
get him out of the way.

[Tom4784]

Well that's gonna help things isn't it? Phillip Defranco covered it in one of his videos and this man's 'church' sounded more like a Cult.

This utterly idiotic fool is putting lives at risk and it's only going to reult in more soldier's deaths. It's completely sickening and I hope to god no one is hurt as a result of this utter cock's actions although I think its unavoidable if he goes through with it.

[Tom4784]

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2010/09/07/article-1309696-0B119793000005DC-162_226x347.jpg
Jones has his own book.


Barrack the US President
spoke about this and said he should not do it. (on abc news)
Why does he not arrest him
get him out of the way.

The First Ammendment, it'd be unconstitutional to arrest him as it's his own opinion and right to burn the books although it isn't right.

[arista]

Arrest him on Terrorism Laws
he will cause Terrorism around the World and America.

So It can be Justified to arrest him.

[arista]

http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2010/9/9/1284035069748/Pakistanis-burn-an-Americ-006.jpg
Pakistanis protest against the Qur'an-burning plans of a US preacher, which Barack Obama says will only help to recruit terrorists. Photograph: M K Chaudhry/EPA


http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/sep/09/quran-burning-terrorism-barack-obama


The Fight is on.

[BB_Eye]

They should let it go ahead. Just like they would let one of those "Death to America" protests go ahead. It's all pretty nasty and vile, but it's freedom of speech.

[arista]

They should let it go ahead. Just like they would let one of those "Death to America" protests go ahead. It's all pretty nasty and vile, but it's freedom of speech.


In the UK it would be stopped.


America is still in a War
so because of that - Arrest him, lock him up.

[BB_Eye]

Arrest him on Terrorism Laws
he will cause Terrorism around the World and America.

So It can be Justified to arrest him.
Those terrorism laws are draconian in the first place.

[BB_Eye]

In the UK it would be stopped.


America is still in a War
so because of that - Arrest him, lock him up.
I'm sure it would be stopped in the UK, but it still wouldn't be right. National security doesn't trump freedom of speech.

[Iceman]

I read the title of this as Burn-A-Korean day...... :shocked:

[Angus]

Funny how muslims can say any amount of blasphemous things about other religions but they do not afford others the same right to do so. However, it's not the Koran that is dangerous and evil, but the moronic brainwashed zealots who do not actually follow the true Islam at all, but use it only as a smokescreen to validate their acts of terrorism.

[arista]

I read the title of this as Burn-A-Korean day...... :shocked:


Wicked

[MTVN]

They should let it go ahead. Just like they would let one of those "Death to America" protests go ahead. It's all pretty nasty and vile, but it's freedom of speech.

I disagree that burning the Quran is freedom of speech; it's a hate crime

[BB_Eye]

I disagree that burning the Quran is freedom of speech; it's a hate crime
Really? I don't see anyone being attacked or their rights being violated. It's same as saying something racist or homophobic (something that I understand the Muslim Council of Britain have down to an art form). It's horrible and a sign of stupidity and ignorance, but it's not a hate crime. Not by any stretch. If we are doing to allow muslims to stage protests with placards reading "Death to the UK/USA" and burning our flags (which I don't consider to be a crime either), we have to be prepared to afford other groups the same rights. It's called living in a democracy.

[MTVN]

Really? I don't see anyone being attacked or their rights being violated. It's same as saying something racist or homophobic (something that I understand the Muslim Council of Britain have down to an art form). It's horrible and a sign of stupidity and ignorance, but it's not a hate crime. Not by any stretch. If we are doing to allow muslims to stage protests with placards reading "Death to the UK/USA" and burning our flags (which I don't consider to be a crime either), we have to be prepared to afford other groups the same rights. It's called living in a democracy.

But there's a difference between airing your views and performing an act which is deliberately provocative, and intended to spur up racial violence.

[BB_Eye]

But there's a difference between airing your views and performing an act which is deliberately provocative, and intended to spur up racial violence.
They can be as 'deliberately provocative' as they like. Nobody is responsible for going out and commiting violence other than the assailant. As for the victims, at least allow them the right to blame their attackers. Blaming other people is the typical pathetic defence mechanism of a criminal who can't take any responsibility for their actions.

[MTVN]

They can be as 'deliberately provocative' as they like. Nobody is responsible for going out and commiting violence other than the assailant. As for the victims, at least allow them the right to blame their attackers. Blaming other people is the typical pathetic defence mechanism of a criminal who can't take any responsibility for their actions.

Well, I think those who knowingly instigate violence should be held partly responsible as well. Yes, everyone has a right to free speech, but when it is being blatantly abused then something has to be done, some things are more important.

Besides, is it really free speech to burn what is considered a holy book? It's an act of hate, prejudice and intolerance that could have severe repercussions, and it would be to the benefit of everyone if it was not allowed to go ahead

[arista]

Yes America is a Mess.

They are not stopping this
even though Terror Attack Worldwide could start up.

If I worked in a American Embassy
I would take a month off.

[Firewire]

By the way, it's Qur'an. :tongue:

[Iceman]

Terror level increased.

The pastor makes a statement later on tonight, he's not gonna do it I bet.

[Omen]

Really? I don't see anyone being attacked or their rights being violated. It's same as saying something racist or homophobic (something that I understand the Muslim Council of Britain have down to an art form). It's horrible and a sign of stupidity and ignorance, but it's not a hate crime. Not by any stretch. If we are doing to allow muslims to stage protests with placards reading "Death to the UK/USA" and burning our flags (which I don't consider to be a crime either), we have to be prepared to afford other groups the same rights. It's called living in a democracy.

It's a crime to show disrespect to the US flag in the US.

[Wildcat!]

There is no way this is gonna go ahead!

Its inciting violence, and with the first amendment and all, you still cant instigate a riot. ANd thats what this would do to a certain extent!

No way, will they let it go on, since he made it so public. If he just decided to do it, without all the hoopla around it, it would be fine!

[BB_Eye]

Well, I think those who knowingly instigate violence should be held partly responsible as well. Yes, everyone has a right to free speech, but when it is being blatantly abused then something has to be done, some things are more important.

Besides, is it really free speech to burn what is considered a holy book? It's an act of hate, prejudice and intolerance that could have severe repercussions, and it would be to the benefit of everyone if it was not allowed to go ahead
Far from it. Everybody loses out when you start to censor people. The book burners will be made out to be martyr figures by their sympathisers. It also begs the question, where do you draw the line when it comes to offending people's religious sensitivities? Banning something considered by certain religious circles to be 'blasphemous' for instance?

This wouldn't help anybody. You are talking about curtailing people's civil liberties in the name of national security. That is about as illiberal as you can get.

[BB_Eye]

It's a crime to show disrespect to the US flag in the US.
Ah yes, the Patriot Act passed into law by that blameless paragon of liberty and fairness, the Bush Administration. I hope, for the Americans' sake, the Senate are doing their level best to get that repealed.

[Omen]

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/d/db/Flag_Disposa.jpg

[Shaun]

But there's a difference between airing your views and performing an act which is deliberately provocative, and intended to spur up racial violence.

This is nothing to do with race. Religion is a conscious choice.

That said, this is ridiculous. I have a Mormon bible in my room. Might burn it.

[MTVN]

Far from it. Everybody loses out when you start to censor people. The book burners will be made out to be martyr figures by their sympathisers. It also begs the question, where do you draw the line when it comes to offending people's religious sensitivities? Banning something considered by certain religious circles to be 'blasphemous' for instance?

This wouldn't help anybody. You are talking about curtailing people's civil liberties in the name of national security. That is about as illiberal as you can get.

Undoubtedly, the line between free speech and abuse of it is a thin one yet it is right that it should exist.

The intention of allowing free speech is not for it to become a tool used to condone racism, by banning this book burning you are not taking away a civil liberty; you are preventing the abuse of it.

[MTVN]

This is nothing to do with race. Religion is a conscious choice.

That said, this is ridiculous. I have a Mormon bible in my room. Might burn it.

Well whatever, it would still stir up violence and prejudice

[30stone]

After them burning the american flag, not surprised its going ahead.

[Shaun]

Well whatever, it would still stir up violence and prejudice

Well you can't be prejudiced against a conscientious choice - that's just being judgmental. There's room for debate, it's a philosophical clash (though I don't doubt there ARE some attending this who probably think all Arabs or Persians (if they can differentiate between the two) are Muslim)

[MTVN]

Well you can't be prejudiced against a conscientious choice - that's just being judgmental. There's room for debate, it's a philosophical clash (though I don't doubt there ARE some attending this who probably think all Arabs or Persians (if they can differentiate between the two) are Muslim)

Well prejudice is defined as:
"an unfavorable opinion or feeling formed beforehand or without knowledge, thought, or reason"

or

"unreasonable feelings, opinions, or attitudes, esp. of a hostile nature, regarding a racial, religious, or national group"

So I think it's appropiate to describe this as prejudice.

[BB_Eye]

Undoubtedly, the line between free speech and abuse of it is a thin one yet it is right that it should exist.

The intention of allowing free speech is not for it to become a tool used to condone racism, by banning this book burning you are not taking away a civil liberty; you are preventing the abuse of it.
There is no such thing as abusing your right to freedom of expression. It might be for a noble cause or it could be for something malicious and racist like the one we're discussing now.

I see no reason why burning a copy of the Quran, purchaed with your own money, can be considered any more unlawful than some whacko preacher standing in the middle of high street talking about how everybody who doesn't follow Jesus will burn in Hell. If you don't like what they're saying, ignore them. It's not like what they say is going to affect you.

[King Gizzard]

It's officially been called off, but expect people to do it anyway now they've got the idea in their heads. The damage is done.

Well done whoever started it, you've got even more people to sign up for Al Whateveritis now probably :\

[arista]

It's officially been called off, but expect people to do it anyway now they've got the idea in their heads. The damage is done.

Well done whoever started it, you've got even more people to sign up for Al Whateveritis now probably :\


No
Thats when he was told about NYC,

But that is wrong info.


So as yet he is still using the threat
of Sundays Event.

[NettoSuperstar!]

Im fed up of hearing about this dickhead! This backwater hick and his all of 50 followers have had too much attention, I wish people would pack up giving him the time of day! Hes a moron and most people think hes a moron, can we not just ignore the twat now...to be honest Im more pissed off with the press for giving the idiot airtime!

[MTVN]

There is no such thing as abusing your right to freedom of expression. It might be for a noble cause or it could be for something malicious and racist like the one we're discussing now.

I see no reason why burning a copy of the Quran, purchaed with your own money, can be considered any more unlawful than some whacko preacher standing in the middle of high street talking about how everybody who doesn't follow Jesus will burn in Hell. If you don't like what they're saying, ignore them. It's not like what they say is going to affect you.

You can abuse it, particuarly considering that was never its intention. Freedom of speech was not granted so that people could freely and provocatively air their prejudices and allow racism a platform.

If you want to sit at home and burn a Quran, then do so, but do not widely publicise the activity and do not publicly encourage it because then you are only stirring up hatred and violence, and that is where you have to draw a line.

[Lucy.]

I'm glad it's been called off, it's the most stupid idea I've ever heard, punishing Muslim's for the actions of one specific group is highly immature and unjust. He'd just be causing more trouble by doing it anyway, expect many more attacks on America, probably worse than before because of this even if it hasn't happened, the fight has been initiated!

[SoBig]

Newest Update=== http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100910/ap_on_re_us/quran_burning

[arista]

Im fed up of hearing about this dickhead! This backwater hick and his all of 50 followers have had too much attention, I wish people would pack up giving him the time of day! Hes a moron and most people think hes a moron, can we not just ignore the twat now...to be honest Im more pissed off with the press for giving the idiot airtime!


The Bloated BBC news
have to
as they Copy all of SkyNews Live

[InOne]

It's kinda silly though, at these protests they burn American Flags as if all Americans are for the burning of the Quran, yet the very thing Muslims are trying to do is show they're all weren't responsible for 9/11

[arista]

It's kinda silly though, at these protests they burn American Flags as if all Americans are for the burning of the Quran, yet the very thing Muslims are trying to do is show they're all weren't responsible for 9/11


Some have been Shot dead due to this
in a Afghan Protest of the Jones threat.


So he has blood on his hands.

[Angus]

By the way, it's Qur'an. :tongue:

Pedant!:tongue:

[Shasown]

By the way, it's Qur'an. :tongue:

By the way it should more correctly be referred to as al-qur’ān, it can be spelled as Qur’ān, Coran, Quran, Kuran, Koran, or al-Qur’ān. If you want to be correct. Depending on the country, it mean 'the recitation'

[arista]

The 2 Hour deadline has now passed
No NYC Imam contacted him.


So the Burning can still happen this Sunday.



SkyNews Live

[Grimnir]

a better thing to do would be have burn-a-terrorist day, similar to guy fawkes bonfire night

11th sep each year get a dummy of a terrorist and set it on fire

a good song to sing whilst the dummy is burning would be

"we are the infidels, we are the infidels
you are the terrorists, you are the terrorists
touch my bum, make me smile
oooooooooooooh matron"

[Shasown]

a better thing to do would be have burn-a-terrorist day, similar to guy fawkes bonfire night

11th sep each year get a dummy of a terrorist and set it on fire

a good song to sing whilst the dummy is burning would be

"we are the infidels, we are the infidels
you are the terrorists, you are the terrorists
touch my bum, make me smile
oooooooooooooh matron"

Oh smashing and a couple of verses of "Mohammed was a paedo". Then break out the roast suckling pig sandwiches.

[M X]

Rev Jones is a vile fool.

[bananarama]

The stark lesson to be learned from this wannabe escapade is that religions drive people mad........They are all as bad as each other............


Religion is fine if you can control it........If it controls you then insanity prevails........

[yousoboo!]

Channel 4 should turn this into a gameshow

[Omen]

Cancelled!

[ElProximo]

[IMG]

You would think the Police in America would stop this Event.
It appears to be going ahead
if he is still alive on sunday.

Sign Of The Times

Let me explain something that should be obvious to everyone:
THIS IS NOT A DAY.
This is not an 'actual thing'.
This is ONE nutbar idiot who (you can see) has a trailer and someone put an amateur sign on it.

This is not the Middle-East where governments make rules on religions or opinions or speech.
It is NONE OF THE GOVERNMENTS BUSINESS to be 'allowing' or not allowing anything.

This is not a 'Day'.
Virtually NOBODY in the USA agrees with this. It is not a 'Day' it is not an 'event' it is not something 'happening in the USA'.
It is a handful of complete idiots who claim they will burn their own Korans.


What is a real ongoing event?
Muslims murdering Christians accused of 'evangelism'. Muslim groups slaughtering humans.
Muslim orgs planning events to BURN PEOPLE TO DEATH.
Burn Jews to death.
Burn Brits, Spanish, Christian Missionaries, Africans .. burn them alive.

That's real. It happens CONSTANTLY and it is not someone burning their own book.
It is horrifically MURDERING HUMAN BEINGS.

This single kook never even did this crap but even if he did burn his own Koran then who cares. One idiot doesn't deserve this attention.

[arista]

There is No God
anyway.

[InOne]

Let me explain something that should be obvious to everyone:
THIS IS NOT A DAY.
This is not an 'actual thing'.
This is ONE nutbar idiot who (you can see) has a trailer and someone put an amateur sign on it.

This is not the Middle-East where governments make rules on religions or opinions or speech.
It is NONE OF THE GOVERNMENTS BUSINESS to be 'allowing' or not allowing anything.

This is not a 'Day'.
Virtually NOBODY in the USA agrees with this. It is not a 'Day' it is not an 'event' it is not something 'happening in the USA'.
It is a handful of complete idiots who claim they will burn their own Korans.


What is a real ongoing event?
Muslims murdering Christians accused of 'evangelism'. Muslim groups slaughtering humans.
Muslim orgs planning events to BURN PEOPLE TO DEATH.
Burn Jews to death.
Burn Brits, Spanish, Christian Missionaries, Africans .. burn them alive.

That's real. It happens CONSTANTLY and it is not someone burning their own book.
It is horrifically MURDERING HUMAN BEINGS.

This single kook never even did this crap but even if he did burn his own Koran then who cares. One idiot doesn't deserve this attention.

Yep, people get riled up about people burning a book yet Muslims are commiting unthinkable acts to their own people across the world. That's the media for you though I guess.

[Snaked Worm]

The fact that many muslims have protested against this by burning flags and an effigy of somebody speaks volumes.

Ive just downloaded a copy of the quran and put it on disc.
Does anybody want me to burn them a copy?

[arista]

The fact that many muslims have protested against this by burning flags and an effigy of somebody speaks volumes.

Ive just downloaded a copy of the quran and put it on disc.
Does anybody want be to burn them a copy?



True

[ElProximo]

Ive just downloaded a copy of the quran and put it on disc.
Does anybody want me to burn them a copy?

Nicely done heh

[ange7]

Let me explain something that should be obvious to everyone:
THIS IS NOT A DAY.
This is not an 'actual thing'.
This is ONE nutbar idiot who (you can see) has a trailer and someone put an amateur sign on it.

This is not the Middle-East where governments make rules on religions or opinions or speech.
It is NONE OF THE GOVERNMENTS BUSINESS to be 'allowing' or not allowing anything.

This is not a 'Day'.
Virtually NOBODY in the USA agrees with this. It is not a 'Day' it is not an 'event' it is not something 'happening in the USA'.
It is a handful of complete idiots who claim they will burn their own Korans.


What is a real ongoing event?
Muslims murdering Christians accused of 'evangelism'. Muslim groups slaughtering humans.
Muslim orgs planning events to BURN PEOPLE TO DEATH.
Burn Jews to death.
Burn Brits, Spanish, Christian Missionaries, Africans .. burn them alive.

That's real. It happens CONSTANTLY and it is not someone burning their own book.
It is horrifically MURDERING HUMAN BEINGS.

This single kook never even did this crap but even if he did burn his own Koran then who cares. One idiot doesn't deserve this attention.
"Muslims murdering Christians accused of 'evangelism'. Muslim groups slaughtering humans.
Muslim orgs planning events to BURN PEOPLE TO DEATH.
Burn Jews to death.
Burn Brits, Spanish, Christian Missionaries, Africans .. burn them alive.

That's real. It happens CONSTANTLY"

sweet f-ing jesus!!!
Constantly?... all muslims?
You racist waste of space.

Mate this is blatantly racists. Pigeon holing all muslims as fanatics.

InOne and arista seem to agree with you .... lol!!!

I wonder if I'll get a warning for calling you a racist?... or will you get away with preaching hate like that mong reverend has. Let's see.... depends on which mod sees it first.

[ange7]

Yep, people get riled up about people burning a book yet Muslims are commiting unthinkable acts to their own people across the world. That's the media for you though I guess.
your reply to
"Muslims murdering Christians accused of 'evangelism'. Muslim groups slaughtering humans.
Muslim orgs planning events to BURN PEOPLE TO DEATH.
Burn Jews to death.
Burn Brits, Spanish, Christian Missionaries, Africans .. burn them alive.

That's real. It happens CONSTANTLY"



is "yep"?

[InOne]

your reply to
"Muslims murdering Christians accused of 'evangelism'. Muslim groups slaughtering humans.
Muslim orgs planning events to BURN PEOPLE TO DEATH.
Burn Jews to death.
Burn Brits, Spanish, Christian Missionaries, Africans .. burn them alive.

That's real. It happens CONSTANTLY"



is "yep"?

No, it wasn't just "yep" was it. I posted a little bit after :tongue:

[ange7]

No, it wasn't just "yep" was it. I posted a little bit after :tongue:
Rubbish. You posted more "yeps" .... but zero "nos". You and elPoximo are on the same wave length. mahahah sux to be you.

[arista]

Look you Down Under Scally Wag

"and arista seem to"

stop putting me in you fights.
If it was not for Great Britain
you would not Exist

[InOne]

Rubbish. You posted more "yeps" .... but zero "nos". You and elPoximo are on the same wave length. mahahah sux to be you.

Ok... lol

Are you a little bored tonight?

[arista]

Down Under Scally Wag

[ange7]

Look you Down Under Scally Wag

"and arista seem to"

stop putting me in you fights.
If it was not for Great Britain
you would not Exist
Silence means consent!!!
ps fighting racism is NOT your fight then hehe. OK thanks... confirmed :P

[arista]

ange
You take all this the wrong way.


Hey
at least you have Communist Pom
in charge down there.

[BB_Eye]

Hey, no dissing Pom. She's a strong, ginger woman. :love:

[InOne]

ange still can't seem to grasp Islam is not a race lol

[ange7]

ange
You take all this the wrong way.


Hey
at least you have Communist Pom
in charge down there.

She's neither. She's center right .... enough to get into the progressive side of the liberal (conservative) party. As for being a pom ... she hasn't shown any signs but we're watching!

[ange7]

ange still can't seem to grasp Islam is not a race lol

zzzzzzzz you is boring...
seriously hehe

[InOne]

zzzzzzzz you is boring...
seriously hehe

zzzzzzzz

Can't answer back cos you know I'm right :tongue:

[ElProximo]

sweet f-ing jesus!!!
Constantly?... all muslims?

Yes (sarcastically) ALL Muslims. I actually believe every single Muslim murders people and that is what I told you and tell everyone.
Get real!

Obviously, I am explaining that there are thousands of Muslim groups/org who routinely murder and terrorize and organize to not just 'burn a book' in protest but BURN HUMAN BEINGS TO DEATH.
Those groups are too often supported and endorsed.. and even voted for... by millions of Muslims.

So here is the context and aim in saying this:
Nobody needs to be getting too concerned about one obscure unknown Christian church in the USA where a handful of people 'threatened' to burn their own Korans.

Many many people need to be concerned about the thousands of innocent civilians in Pakistan, Africa, Indonesia,
evangelical christian orgs, western aid groups, foreign gas and oil workers, Israeli communters..
..who will see themselves horrifically murdered 'in the name of Allah' by Muslim 'Jihad' sects, orgs, groups.

Don't be so lame as to come back with this fake offense at 'ALL MUSLIMS?'
get real.
Nobody thinks 'All Muslims'.

You just did that so you could 'cancel out ALL claims'.
This 'Any and All' trick.
If you can change it to me say 'ALL' Muslims then you can easily dismiss ALL the complaint.
Don't be so cheap.

[NettoSuperstar!]

Yes (sarcastically) ALL Muslims. I actually believe every single Muslim murders people and that is what I told you and tell everyone.
Get real!

Obviously, I am explaining that there are thousands of Muslim groups/org who routinely murder and terrorize and organize to not just 'burn a book' in protest but BURN HUMAN BEINGS TO DEATH.
Those groups are too often supported and endorsed.. and even voted for... by millions of Muslims.

So here is the context and aim in saying this:
Nobody needs to be getting too concerned about one obscure unknown Christian church in the USA where a handful of people 'threatened' to burn their own Korans.

Many many people need to be concerned about the thousands of innocent civilians in Pakistan, Africa, Indonesia,
evangelical christian orgs, western aid groups, foreign gas and oil workers, Israeli communters..
..who will see themselves horrifically murdered 'in the name of Allah' by Muslim 'Jihad' sects, orgs, groups.

Don't be so lame as to come back with this fake offense at 'ALL MUSLIMS?'
get real.
Nobody thinks 'All Muslims'.

You just did that so you could 'cancel out ALL claims'.
This 'Any and All' trick.
If you can change it to me say 'ALL' Muslims then you can easily dismiss ALL the complaint.
Don't be so cheap.

Trouble is you cant seem to separate the majority of ordinary muslims who might be offended by red necks burning the koran with the fanatics that use islam for their own political ends

[NettoSuperstar!]

It's kinda silly though, at these protests they burn American Flags as if all Americans are for the burning of the Quran, yet the very thing Muslims are trying to do is show they're all weren't responsible for 9/11

"They" there you go lumping everyone in together again

[InOne]

"They" there you go lumping everyone in together again

Nope, I meant 'they' who were there at the time. Not all muslims...

[ange7]

Yes (sarcastically) ALL Muslims. I actually believe every single Muslim murders people and that is what I told you and tell everyone.
Get real!

Obviously, I am explaining that there are thousands of Muslim groups/org who routinely murder and terrorize and organize to not just 'burn a book' in protest but BURN HUMAN BEINGS TO DEATH.
Those groups are too often supported and endorsed.. and even voted for... by millions of Muslims.

So here is the context and aim in saying this:
Nobody needs to be getting too concerned about one obscure unknown Christian church in the USA where a handful of people 'threatened' to burn their own Korans.

Many many people need to be concerned about the thousands of innocent civilians in Pakistan, Africa, Indonesia,
evangelical christian orgs, western aid groups, foreign gas and oil workers, Israeli communters..
..who will see themselves horrifically murdered 'in the name of Allah' by Muslim 'Jihad' sects, orgs, groups.

Don't be so lame as to come back with this fake offense at 'ALL MUSLIMS?'
get real.
Nobody thinks 'All Muslims'.

You just did that so you could 'cancel out ALL claims'.
This 'Any and All' trick.
If you can change it to me say 'ALL' Muslims then you can easily dismiss ALL the complaint.
Don't be so cheap.

Bring it on
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=elaHaLl8T1k

[NettoSuperstar!]

Nope, I meant 'they' who were there at the time. Not all muslims...

So how is it the ones burning the US flag are the same ones trying to show "they" arent all like the perpetrators of 9/11?

[ange7]

Nope, I meant 'they' who were there at the time. Not all muslims...
you said:
"yet the very thing Muslims are trying to do is show they're all weren't responsible for 9/11"

you lump them all together ALL the time so stop worming you way out of it.

[InOne]

So how is it the ones burning the US flag are the same ones trying to show "they" arent all like the perpetrators of 9/11?

Well seen as we can't ask all the ones who were there exactly what they believe we'll never know. But I think this is mostly the media's fault this time anyway. Should've never got the attention it did. They could've burnt them, nobody would've know, then there would not be all this drama. But they gotta make news I guess.

[InOne]

you said:
"yet the very thing Muslims are trying to do is show they're all weren't responsible for 9/11"

you lump them all together ALL the time so stop worming you way out of it.

Nah I don't. You just like to think I do.

[ange7]

Nah I don't. You just like to think I do.
You blame all muslims for 9/11 by denying them a place to worship. Luckily not many think like you do. You defend el poximo and his amazing line "Muslims murdering Christians accused of 'evangelism'. Muslim groups slaughtering humans.
Muslim orgs planning events to BURN PEOPLE TO DEATH.
Burn Jews to death.
Burn Brits, Spanish, Christian Missionaries, Africans .. burn them alive.

That's real. It happens CONSTANTLY"
lol
your reply to that was "yep I agree.... and then some!" hehe

funny how mods haven't deleted it.

[arista]

"funny how mods haven't deleted it. "


Ange you Utter Trouble Maker
they ain't seen it.

[InOne]

You blame all muslims for 9/11 by denying them a place to worship. Luckily not many think like you do. You defend el poximo and his amazing line "Muslims murdering Christians accused of 'evangelism'. Muslim groups slaughtering humans.
Muslim orgs planning events to BURN PEOPLE TO DEATH.
Burn Jews to death.
Burn Brits, Spanish, Christian Missionaries, Africans .. burn them alive.

That's real. It happens CONSTANTLY"
lol
your reply to that was "yep I agree.... and then some!" hehe

funny how mods haven't deleted it.

Muslims do kill eachother all over the world. Don't you agree with that?

[arista]

Muslims do kill eachother all over the world. Don't you agree with that?


Sure
But I ain't going with them.

So keep that mobile Nuke in the USA

[ange7]

Muslims do kill eachother all over the world. Don't you agree with that?
so you DO agree with el proximos statement yes or no?

[InOne]

so you DO agree with el proximos statement yes or no?

Which part?

[ElProximo]

so you DO agree with el proximos statement yes or no?

It isn't a secret.
All over the world are Muslim organizations, groups, paramilitary, etc which are specifically together 'in the name of Allah' and who are carrying out what they clearly call 'Islamic Jihad',
and,
of these hundreds of groups they have been murdering thousands upon thousand of humans a year.
In many case burning the human beings to death. Burning them. in the name of Allah forcing someone to die by being burned to death.
Or holding them in a cage for months before putting them to a video camera and in the name of Allah, chanting to Allah they force the innocent civilian to the floor and start sawing off their heads with a kitchen knife. Sawing off their heads while they are still alive.
Horrific explosions of human bodies,
smashing them into graves of rubble,
shooting them,
stabbing them to death in the name of Allah and their Muslim group.

Among these victims are Chinese teenage girls who were caught walking in the street and being 'not Muslim'.
Jews.
Babies.
Russian commuters going to work.
Christian Doctors and Nurses who were saving the lives of Muslims.
Nuns and Priests.
and,
Thousands of Muslims who deemed 'not Muslim enough' or made the mistake of being near some non-Muslims hence getting their unrequested martyrdom chosen for them.

So I don't give a damn about one kook preacher in some independent kook church with 50 members who painted a sign on a trailer claiming he would burn his own copy of the Koran... and never even did.
and 99.999% of Christians agreed he was a moron and probably a cult leader anyways.

Get real.
Don't reply with this 'oh so your saying ALL muslims...'.
No.
Get real and see there is an astonishing difference and one is an idiot burning his own paper book,
yet,
another is thousands organizing to mass-murder innocent people.

What should we spent our time focusing on solving first?
What needs 20 hours a day on BBC?
Think about that.

[NettoSuperstar!]

El Proximo people kill people all over the world, you seem to think its a "muslim" thing, its not, groups attack other groups for resources, power, land....it has been going on since man inhabited this world....religion has been used as a reason for centuries, but it could be anything... eg/ to build a supreme race...war against terror...

[BB_Eye]

Shut up El Proxy Server

[ElProximo]

El Proximo people kill people all over the world, you seem to think its a "muslim" thing, ...

My post did not imply that the only mass murders and terrorism attacks are by Muslims and no one else.

If I told you that many English children are playing football you would reply "Its not just an "english" thing and point out how other children play football.
Brilliant.
Thanks.

[WOMBAI]

Bring it on
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=elaHaLl8T1k

What an intentionally deceptive representation of the truth your tacky sig is! :sleep:

We all know the rough, downmarket Josie was the one so desperate to get her great mucky paws on that vile Aussie's scrawny little todger! Grotesque mucky pair! In comparison - Corin was class! :nono:

[WOMBAI]

Well that's gonna help things isn't it? Phillip Defranco covered it in one of his videos and this man's 'church' sounded more like a Cult.

This utterly idiotic fool is putting lives at risk and it's only going to reult in more soldier's deaths. It's completely sickening and I hope to god no one is hurt as a result of this utter cock's actions although I think its unavoidable if he goes through with it.

The guy maybe an idiot - but all he wants to do is burn a book, regardless of what it represents to them - it is a book! He is not threatening to kill anyone. The fact that certain Muslims would see that as justification for yet more murder - demonstrates who the real madmen are! They don't need an excuse - as they are just a bunch of twisted murdering psychopaths!

The finger of criticism and condemnation should be pointed in the right directionn, to the real monsters, not side-tracked to some misguided little pastor who is just trying to make a point, but in an inappropriate way! People need to get their priorities right! :nono:

The only reason I wouldn't want it to go ahead, it for the sake of our soldiers, who face enough hatred already by these maniacs - but lets not forget - who the real cuprits would be if any soldier was harmed as a result - and it wouldn't be the pastor! It is about time some people placed the blame at the right doorstep! Fundamentalists are common criminals who belong in jail, thugs who thrive on fear, violence and threats - who hide behind religion as justification for their crimes - because they are a bunch of cowards who don't even have the guts to admit what they really are!

[lostalex]

The guy maybe an idiot - but all he wants to do is burn a book, regardless of what it represents to them - it is a book! He is not threatening to kill anyone. The fact that certain Muslims would see that as justification for yet more murder - demonstrates who the real madmen are! They don't need an excuse - as they are just a bunch of twisted murdering psychopaths!

The finger of criticism and condemnation should be pointed in the right directionn, to the real monsters, not side-tracked to some misguided little pastor who is just trying to make a point, but in an inappropriate way! People need to get their priorities right! :nono:

The only reason I wouldn't want it to go ahead, it for the sake of our soldiers, who face enough hatred already by these maniacs - but lets not forget - who the real cuprits would be if any soldier was harmed as a result - and it wouldn't be the pastor! It is about time some people placed the blame at the right doorstep! Fundamentalists are common criminals who belong in jail, thugs who thrive on fear, violence and threats - who hide behind religion as justification for their crimes - because they are a bunch of cowards who don't even have the guts to admit what they really are!


egggggsactly. i concur.