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Merry Mockmas
10-10-2010, 08:04 PM
how the **** did fyd not come bottom of the votes when they were on 1st,didnt have that popular performance off the public? was it because they would have had to have got rid of katie because nicolo was the better singer and performer?
Callum
10-10-2010, 08:05 PM
Probably have lots of family who's voting for them
StGeorge
10-10-2010, 08:08 PM
how the **** did fyd not come bottom of the votes when they were on 1st,didnt have that popular performance off the public? was it because they would have had to have got rid of katie because nicolo was the better singer and performer?
As conspiracy theories go....this one sucks.
Jords
10-10-2010, 08:09 PM
I was so pleased Belle Amie got through, did doubt it for a sec!
Gobsmacked John didnt land bottom 3.
Merry Mockmas
10-10-2010, 08:15 PM
As conspiracy theories go....this one sucks.
how does it? i heard more praise off nicolo on the forums than there was of fyd,and the polls had him 1% ahead of fyd.
Zippy
10-10-2010, 08:19 PM
The result isnt a surprise so there's no need for speak of a fix.
Both acts sucked knob.
Merry Mockmas
10-10-2010, 08:21 PM
The result isnt a surprise so there's no need for speak of a fix.
Both acts sucked knob.
it just seems to me that cheryl and simons acts can never go 1st.
Christina
10-10-2010, 08:21 PM
I doubt it was a fix tbh.
StGeorge
10-10-2010, 08:24 PM
how does it? i heard more praise off nicolo on the forums than there was of fyd,and the polls had him 1% ahead of fyd.
So the millions of peops that watch the show dont count as the forums say so....
The idea that the vote is rigged doesnt wash with me, because these phone votes are done independantly and scrutinised thoroughly. And also if it was found out that ITV or any or its shows were being fiddled....it would be catastrophic for the station and that show, the lack of credibility would reverberate across all of ITVs shhows that have phone ins and would not be a viable option to get wrong. ....all cos of some liking for one singer over another eh???? I dont think so sonny jim.
StGeorge
10-10-2010, 08:26 PM
it just seems to me that cheryl and simons acts can never go 1st.
The act that got the least votes was Danni's and was 2nd from last i believe.
Merry Mockmas
10-10-2010, 08:27 PM
So the millions of peops that watch the show dont count as the forums say so....
The idea that the vote is rigged doesnt wash with me, because these phone votes are done independantly and scrutinised thoroughly. And also if it was found out that ITV or any or its shows were being fiddled....it would be catastrophic for the station and that show, the lack of credibility would reverberate across all of ITVs shhows that have phone ins and would not be a viable option to get wrong. ....all cos of some liking for one singer over another eh???? I dont think so sonny jim.
ofcom are **** at spotting fixes,afterall big brother got away with it for 11 years.
Mr XcX
10-10-2010, 08:33 PM
FYD and Nicolo where correct 3 to go. Katie my baby was good in sing off!!!
Merry Mockmas
10-10-2010, 08:35 PM
FYD and Nicolo where correct 3 to go. Katie my baby was good in sing off!!!
i think nicolo should have stayed as i think even cher could have stood out against fyd.:joker:
Mr XcX
10-10-2010, 08:36 PM
i think nicolo should have stayed as i think even cher could have stood out against fyd.:joker:
Nicolo had more to give.
bbfan1991
10-10-2010, 08:38 PM
Nicolo should have stayed but he got the least votes, tis a shame and maybe the DS mob cursed it, their polls are so off the mark:joker:.
StGeorge
10-10-2010, 08:41 PM
Nicolo had more to give.
Except fans....:joker:
joeysteele
10-10-2010, 08:43 PM
Oh well, we all know the phone scams on competitions and other phone ins that were supposed to be strictly regulated but weren't at all, even on a simple show like deal or no deal there was a fix as to winners of the phone ins.
I have totally no faith in the so called regulator s of any phone things and where there are millions of votes cast then error or being creative with the figures is highly likely.
Nocolo did perform well but maybe like Ruth Lorenzo he had no home base of votes in the UK, so that may be why he was at the bottom of the poll. How Belle Amie survived I haven't a clue but there it goes.
I was surprised Louis after last night didn't send Katie home, in my view she did ok but she didn't sing that song well either, FYD were always on a hard one with starting last nights show,they didi better tonight but I didn't care for either of them really.
I'd have sent Katie home of those 2,only because I like that Rihanna song and they were a bit better.
Be careful not to dismiss the conspiracy theories though, these shows and Channels wnat us to do just that, think they always do ti by the book, when not long ago endless shows from all Channels were shown to have had fiddling and false declaration of results, even sometimes just choosing a winner as in competitions themselves .
Not even drawing any names and just ignoring the phone votes altogether,Life has so far taught me to trust no one especially where money and fame are involved as to the results os same.
StGeorge
10-10-2010, 08:57 PM
Be careful not to dismiss the conspiracy theories though, these shows and Channels wnat us to do just that, think they always do ti by the book, when not long ago endless shows from all Channels were shown to have had fiddling and false declaration of results, even sometimes just choosing a winner as in competitions themselves .
Not even drawing any names and just ignoring the phone votes altogether,Life has so far taught me to trust no one especially where money and fame are involved as to the results os same.
Yes there has been rigging in the past, and the Blue Peter "Name the Cat" phone in was the one that stands out. The BBC was left to apologise and its integrity was tarnished. The Editor that organised the fiddle was sacked.
There will always be mistakes made with such a voting format, but the risks involved for the broadcaster and employees is just not worth it for the sake of opinion over a pair of singers....IMO.
BGT-FAN!
10-10-2010, 09:04 PM
Yeah, this means someone actually voted for John!
joeysteele
10-10-2010, 09:14 PM
Yes there has been rigging in the past, and the Blue Peter "Name the Cat" phone in was the one that stands out. The BBC was left to apologise and its integrity was tarnished. The Editor that organised the fiddle was sacked.
There will always be mistakes made with such a voting format, but the risks involved for the broadcaster and employees is just not worth it for the sake of opinion over a pair of singers....IMO.
I take on board what you have said and you are right mistakes will always be made, however to the statement that its not worth it for the sake of opinion over 2 singers, as you so factually put it in your response to me it beggars belief it was worth it over naming a cat.
Some people cannot be trusted,and I always have doubts as to the integrity of votes being verified and collated behind closed doors away from the public eye.
I am not saying that anything happened in this instance but is very possible and how would we the voting public ever know for sure with no transparency to the mechanisms.
Zippy
10-10-2010, 09:24 PM
Nicocacola seems interesting but that song choice sank him like a torpedo.
Karaoke Gaga is a big mistake for a guy. He even looked uncomfortable.
Joelle.
10-10-2010, 10:36 PM
Nicolo was definetely the right one to go for numerous reasons.
He cannot sing and bar Wagners, Nicolo's was one of the worst vocal performances of the night.
Nicolo has absolutely no stage presence. He looked bored and even all of the dancers and props couldn't cover that up.
He has such a negative attitude and arrogance about him that it is no wonder his fans are in short supply.
I would have rather FYD stayed as it would have been interesting to see what else they could do.
It was a crime that Katie stayed though as she absolutely murdered both We Are The Champions and the song she sung in the final showdown. She won't last much longer though, I can see her doing a Rachel Adedeji and exiting after two or three times in the bottom two within the first three of four weeks.
Beastie
10-10-2010, 10:51 PM
Gutted Nicolo went...... but ahh well.
StGeorge
11-10-2010, 10:50 AM
I take on board what you have said and you are right mistakes will always be made, however to the statement that its not worth it for the sake of opinion over 2 singers, as you so factually put it in your response to me it beggars belief it was worth it over naming a cat.
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Blue Peter's existance doesnt depend on the publics involvement and the money generated from phone ins....shows like the X factor does. If the voting public were to shun the phone in, then the show would be dead....its the same with all these audience participation shows like BB & ImACeleb.
Thats not to say it cant happen....but the risk to the shows credibility and future ability to generate much needed revenue for the broadcaster, far outweighs the benifits of rigging the show. IMO.
StGeorge
11-10-2010, 10:56 AM
Some people cannot be trusted,and I always have doubts as to the integrity of votes being verified and collated behind closed doors away from the public eye.
I am not saying that anything happened in this instance but is very possible and how would we the voting public ever know for sure with no transparency to the mechanisms.
The amount of people that would need to be involved in the rigging and cover up would leave the instigators with a huge problem of then keeping them all happy incase a disgruntled employee was to spill the beans later on.
No one (Note: not noone) knew about the fix put in by Renault to ensure Alonso won the 2008 Singapore F1 Grand Prix....until Renault sacked the No2 driver and he spilled the beans.
joeysteele
11-10-2010, 11:20 AM
1.big brother did fix there editing so i was gonna say fix.
2.im a guy so i cant be a lesbian.
Brilliant response.jedward fever.
joeysteele
11-10-2010, 11:24 AM
The amount of people that would need to be involved in the rigging and cover up would leave the instigators with a huge problem of then keeping them all happy incase a disgruntled employee was to spill the beans later on.
No one (Note: not noone) knew about the fix put in by Renault to ensure Alonso won the 2008 Singapore F1 Grand Prix....until Renault sacked the No2 driver and he spilled the beans.
Totally agree, but the 2nd part of your post indicates fixes and juggling with figures takes place,thats all the original poster was saying.
This result has more than a surprise element to it so that scenario is not impossible even if unlikely. but, will we ever know? Probably or certainly not.
fuzzylovin
11-10-2010, 12:30 PM
I expected belle amie to be bottom 3 was very surprised.
xfactor were going to keep katie either way its getting them new paper coverage because people dont like her, i start to like her but then i remember how fake she is, and she will tell anyone what they want to hear.
Watching it again, Nicolo only showed emoton when he registered shock of leaving. I liked him and didnt mind his arrogance, but his seeming boredom annoyed me.
Kazanne
11-10-2010, 04:03 PM
1.big brother did fix there editing so i was gonna say fix.
2.im a guy so i cant be a lesbian.
I hope you reported that post Jedward,why are people so rude,it seems some on here can get away with it.
Well 'Josy' dropped on me like a ton of bricks because i told someone not to be so bliddy daft,LOL,go figure,I guess if your face fits!
I dropped on you like a ton of bricks, really?
That's strange because, I just looked through your infractions and noticed I have never actually given you one, so by "dropped like a ton of bricks" do you actually mean I posted in a thread about not insulting other members or something along those lines?
Incredible
You shouldn't believe everything you read.
it is ridiculous,i bet we all get infractions now for speaking the truth.:joker:
Its only the truth in your eyes, admin see every punishment the mods hand out, if any were undeserved they would be reversed.
I deleted a few posts - keep on topic please.
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