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Omah
29-10-2010, 03:01 PM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-manchester-11650593

An "internet troll" who posted obscene messages on Facebook sites set up in memory of dead people has been jailed.

Colm Coss, of Ardwick, Manchester, posted on a memorial page for Big Brother star Jade Goody and a tribute site to John Paul Massey, a Liverpool boy mauled to death by a dog.

The 36-year-old "preyed on bereaved families" for his "own pleasure", Manchester Magistrates Court heard.

He was jailed for 18 weeks for sending "malicious communications".

I'm pleased that such people are being prosecuted and convicted ..... :cool:

Mr XcX
29-10-2010, 03:07 PM
I hope they rot. LOL

Why would anyone be so pathetic.

Kazanne
29-10-2010, 03:07 PM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-manchester-11650593


I'm pleased that such people are being prosecuted and convicted ..... :cool:

Me too,there are far too many sickos on the loose imo.something is not wired up right for people to do things like that.

Mr XcX
29-10-2010, 03:07 PM
I hope they rot. LOL

Why would anyone be so pathetic.

Shaun
29-10-2010, 04:26 PM
seems a bit much.

Stacey.
29-10-2010, 04:50 PM
Isn't that like way too far seriously D:

Jordan.
29-10-2010, 04:51 PM
Long live Jade Goody.

MTVN
29-10-2010, 04:54 PM
You actually get jailed for that? :o

*Delete's comments on Jade Goody tribute sites*

Vicky.
29-10-2010, 04:55 PM
A bit extreme...but good that they made an example of them. Maybe others will think and not be so sick in the future.

Shaun
29-10-2010, 04:56 PM
Oh I just re-read, the thing about the boy mauled to death by a dog is a bit sick. Fair enough then really.

lily.
29-10-2010, 04:57 PM
Don't we have freedom of speech?


No?

Jordan.
29-10-2010, 05:02 PM
Don't we have freedom of speech?


No?

I think theres a difference in freedom of speech and posting videos of a child mauled to death by a dog.....

lily.
29-10-2010, 05:04 PM
He didn't post videos of that.

The child was mauled to death by a dog.

He posted nasty things on his tribute page.

I'm not condoning his behaviour, but surely they could have moderated the comments on the site or had them approved before they appeared.

Everyone knows there are trolls online. I'd rather just not let them comment than pursue court action to be honest.

I think the sentence is a bit extreme for the crime.

GiRTh
29-10-2010, 05:05 PM
He was charged under the Communications Act 2003, for sending malicious communications that were grossly offensive.It's a bit harsh to jail someone for that.

lily.
29-10-2010, 05:11 PM
If you looked around the web, you'd find thousands of obscene and inappropriate comments about high profile deaths. Is everyone going to be charged?

Omah
29-10-2010, 05:52 PM
If you looked around the web, you'd find thousands of obscene and inappropriate comments about high profile deaths. Is everyone going to be charged?

No, but anything posted on the internet can be used as evidence against the poster - it doesn't have to be an obscenity, it could be libel, for example .....

Tom
29-10-2010, 08:27 PM
Meanwhile, real criminals are getting away with murder, quite literally. The police moan that they're short staffed and low of resources yet they waste a load of resources processing this and then the Crown Prosecution Service have no option but to deal with it properly and then it wastes prison resources too which is already overcrowded

A fine or internet ban would have sufficed

Shaun
29-10-2010, 08:40 PM
-agrees with Tom-

-cherishes this rare occasion-

Omah
29-10-2010, 10:45 PM
Meanwhile, real criminals are getting away with murder, quite literally. The police moan that they're short staffed and low of resources yet they waste a load of resources processing this and then the Crown Prosecution Service have no option but to deal with it properly and then it wastes prison resources too which is already overcrowded

A fine or internet ban would have sufficed

Not to make an example, though, 'pour encourager les autres' ..... ;)

Far too many internet users use their anonymity to break what is, under normal circumstances, "the law" ..... :mad:

InOne
29-10-2010, 10:49 PM
You get trolls all over. Jailing one won't stop the rest. Oh yeah, and it's the net....

Omah
29-10-2010, 11:13 PM
You get trolls all over. Jailing one won't stop the rest.

Obviously not, but the worst offenders in the UK will be traced and arrested ..... :cool:

Tom
30-10-2010, 07:23 PM
Not to make an example, though, 'pour encourager les autres' ..... ;)

Far too many internet users use their anonymity to break what is, under normal circumstances, "the law" ..... :mad:

Making an example, especially over the internet, never works. If it did work then noone would be illegally downloading because people have been fined millions for it yet it still happens. Just putting this into perspective, I was in Manchester Crown Court not so long ago doing some court observations for my Open Uni course and one of the judges (she was lovely) came and spoke to a few students who were in. She was being brutally honest and saying that the courts are made a mockery of because of the police and the prison system. But she told us about another judge who gave a defendent in the crown court (which often shares the same judges as the magistrates court this person was trialled at because they're in the same building) a caution for RAPE. Now compare that to someone being an internet troll and saying who deserves prison more.

Kazanne
30-10-2010, 07:38 PM
Obviously not, but the worst offenders in the UK will be traced and arrested ..... :cool:

Anyone who finds humour in the terrible death or abuse of a child in particular has to have a screw loose and to purposely go onto this childs memorial site and spout profanaties deserves everything he gets,the families suffer enough,Why can't this moron find something constructive to do with his time.I'm glad he has been caught and dealt with.

Fetch The Bolt Cutters
30-10-2010, 07:50 PM
well this isnt gonna go down well but i think hes hot

Omah
30-10-2010, 09:09 PM
Making an example, especially over the internet, never works. If it did work then noone would be illegally downloading because people have been fined millions for it yet it still happens.

So what do we do about internet paedophiles ? Leave them to it ?

Just putting this into perspective, I was in Manchester Crown Court not so long ago doing some court observations for my Open Uni course and one of the judges (she was lovely) came and spoke to a few students who were in. She was being brutally honest and saying that the courts are made a mockery of because of the police and the prison system. But she told us about another judge who gave a defendent in the crown court (which often shares the same judges as the magistrates court this person was trialled at because they're in the same building) a caution for RAPE. Now compare that to someone being an internet troll and saying who deserves prison more.

Each case on it merits ..... and the irregularities of legal systems are well-known, but better some law than none at all .....

CaraRawr
30-10-2010, 09:19 PM
a tad ott but the guy sounds like a ***** so glad he got what he deserved.

Tom
30-10-2010, 09:21 PM
So what do we do about internet paedophiles ? Leave them to it ?

Thats completely different and you know it

Omah
30-10-2010, 09:50 PM
Thats completely different and you know it

Erm, you made initial comparisons :

..... another judge who gave a defendent in the crown court (which often shares the same judges as the magistrates court this person was trialled at because they're in the same building) a caution for RAPE. Now compare that to someone being an internet troll and saying who deserves prison more.

BB_Eye
30-10-2010, 10:08 PM
This is a ridiculous sentence considering all the chav scum who get away with terrorising estates for years on end with a slap on the wrist.

Pathetic, it's not even an IRL crime.

Why in the Hell are the police wasting valuable time on crap like this?

Omah
30-10-2010, 10:31 PM
This is a ridiculous sentence considering all the chav scum who get away with terrorising estates for years on end with a slap on the wrist.

Pathetic, it's not even an IRL crime.

Why in the Hell are the police wasting valuable time on crap like this?

Because they are obliged to :

Unemployed Coss was only caught when he sent residents on his street photos of himself saying he was an internet "troll".

One of the residents passed the photos to police who interviewed him before he eventually admitted to posting abusive messages.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-manchester-11650593

127 Improper use of public electronic communications network

(1)A person is guilty of an offence if he—

(a)sends by means of a public electronic communications network a message or other matter that is grossly offensive or of an indecent, obscene or menacing character; or

(b)causes any such message or matter to be so sent.

http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2003/21/section/127

M X
30-10-2010, 10:41 PM
I don't think 18 weeks is long enough for that ******!

BB_Eye
30-10-2010, 11:53 PM
Because they are obliged to :



http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-manchester-11650593



http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2003/21/section/127
I'm not saying he shouldn't have been prosecuted. Just that a custodial sentence is harsh to say the least when people like this... (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1324802/Thug-kicked-terminally-ill-grandfather-head-walks-free-court.html) get away with a suspended sentence.

Omah
31-10-2010, 12:18 AM
I'm not saying he shouldn't have been prosecuted. Just that a custodial sentence is harsh to say the least when people like this... (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1324802/Thug-kicked-terminally-ill-grandfather-head-walks-free-court.html) get away with a suspended sentence.

Well, the "thug" should have been banged up for several years with some hairy-backed knuckle-draggers serving life - no remission, no remorse ..... :mad:

Tom
01-11-2010, 04:13 PM
Erm, you made initial comparisons :

I didn't make no such comparisons. Rape doesn't necessarily mean paedophillia, and paedophillia is slightly different to being a keyboard warrior, do you not think?

Omah
01-11-2010, 04:16 PM
I didn't make no such comparisons.

Yes, you did ..... ;)

Rape doesn't necessarily mean paedophillia, and paedophillia is slightly different to being a keyboard warrior, do you not think?

AFAIK, rape is not, and presumably cannot be, an internet crime, but paedophilic behaviour may well be, i.e. child pornography exhange/chatroom grooming ..... :eek:

Tom
01-11-2010, 04:22 PM
Yes, you did ..... ;)

Nope, you're just reading into what I wrote. Highlight where I wrote the direct comparison, not one you've twisted

Omah
01-11-2010, 04:27 PM
Nope, you're just reading into what I wrote. Highlight where I wrote the direct comparison, not one you've twisted

here :

..... another judge who gave a defendent in the crown court (which often shares the same judges as the magistrates court this person was trialled at because they're in the same building) a caution for RAPE. Now compare that to someone being an internet troll and saying who deserves prison more.

Tom
01-11-2010, 04:30 PM
yeah, I understood that bit. But where did I compare it to paedophiles on the internet?

Omah
01-11-2010, 04:40 PM
yeah, I understood that bit. But where did I compare it to paedophiles on the internet?

You didn't and I didn't say you did - you accused me of making comparisons, which I had not - you had suggested that prosecuting for internet "crime" is pointless while I queried whether, in your opinion, paedophiles should therefore be "left to it" - you then made a legal comparison between rape and an internet troll .....

Tom
01-11-2010, 04:58 PM
You didn't and I didn't say you did - you accused me of making comparisons, which I had not - you had suggested that prosecuting for internet "crime" is pointless while I queried whether, in your opinion, paedophiles should therefore be "left to it" - you then made a legal comparison between rape and an internet troll .....

Yeah you might wanna read the thread again, I get a completely different account to that

You suggested that internet paedophiles should be left to it based on what my post said, but I did go on to say its completely different, besides internet trolling doesn't affect lives in the way that internet paedophilia does. And internet trolling tends to stay on the internet, the other doesn't. In fairness you can imply it from my post it you're being picky but realistically its 2 completely different matters and its like comparing death by dangerous driving with driving without insurance.

You went on to say I made initial comparisons (assuming its about trolling vs paedophillia beacuse of the post you quoted) and I didn't make any comparison at all and then said about the unrelaetd one. Thats what I'm asking you to find, otherwise you need to be clearer when you put your points across or just admit you were wrong to save you having to buy a new shovel

Omah
01-11-2010, 05:20 PM
Yeah you might wanna read the thread again, I get a completely different account to that

You suggested that internet paedophiles should be left to it based on what my post said, but I did go on to say its completely different, besides internet trolling doesn't affect lives in the way that internet paedophilia does. And internet trolling tends to stay on the internet, the other doesn't. In fairness you can imply it from my post it you're being picky but realistically its 2 completely different matters and its like comparing death by dangerous driving with driving without insurance.

You went on to say I made initial comparisons (assuming its about trolling vs paedophillia beacuse of the post you quoted) and I didn't make any comparison at all and then said about the unrelaetd one. Thats what I'm asking you to find, otherwise you need to be clearer when you put your points across or just admit you were wrong to save you having to buy a new shovel

I beg to differ ..... we appear to have irreconcilable perceptions ..... ;)

Tom
01-11-2010, 05:43 PM
I beg to differ ..... we appear to have irreconcilable perceptions ..... ;)

That different that you quote the entirely wrong post :)

Omah
01-11-2010, 05:59 PM
That different that you quote the entirely wrong post :)

No, I didn't ..... :nono:

BB_Eye
01-11-2010, 06:17 PM
Once of you must be trolling. Now behave before I call the coppers.

cupid stunt
13-11-2010, 09:37 PM
I'm not saying he shouldn't have been prosecuted. Just that a custodial sentence is harsh to say the least when people like this... (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1324802/Thug-kicked-terminally-ill-grandfather-head-walks-free-court.html) get away with a suspended sentence.

dont forget these 3 evil ******s as well
A family has reacted with horror and disbelief after a gang of teenage thugs who subjected an autistic boy to a terrifying three-day ‘torture’ ordeal walked free from court.

The gang used a mobile phone to film themselves carrying out depraved assaults on their 17-year-old victim.

During a sickening spree of violence the three thugs kicked and stamped on his head, repeatedly punched him in the chest, beat him with a tennis racket and then threw him down a steep embankment.


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1319575/3-evil-bullies-tortured-autistic-boy-17-walk-free-Manchester-court.html#ixzz15CVlQ6qz
those sick bastards should get tortured every day for the rest of their lives:mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:

BB_Eye
13-11-2010, 10:05 PM
dont forget these 3 evil ******s as well

those sick bastards should get tortured every day for the rest of their lives:mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:
Yeah I heard about this too. I assumed it happened in America at first with how corrupt their legal system is. 80 hours community service and 12 months probation for torturing and sexually assaulting a minor?

Incomprehensible. Thankfully a petition is underway to change the decision. I hope there are serious consequences for the judge and defence barrister responsible for this. :mad:

letmein
17-11-2010, 07:37 AM
Don't we have freedom of speech?


No?

Great Britain does not guarantee Freedom of Speech. That is America. So no, Brits do not have Freedom of Speech.