15 year old arrested for burning koran

[Tom]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-black-country-11835253

The irony. Its fine for them to burn the bible though. Is this arrest fair or silly?

[Vicky.]

Stupid. Absolutely ridiculous tbh :/

Double standards...as usual.

[MTVN]

It's always hard to say what actually constitutes "inciting racial hatred", it seems to be a grey area. But does one girl burning a book on facebook really incite hatred? I wouldnt say so

[Judas]

I think she deserves it; it's just ignorant, rude and disrespectfull.

[Niall]

Silly.

They only arrested her because Muslims would be having kittens if the police hadn't done anything.

If she burned the bible nothing would have happened.

*Sigh* :rolleyes:

[BB_Eye]

Silly, the police are bending over backwards not to offend the Islamic community when their precious time could be spent on more important matters.

And yes, the law banning 'incitement to religious hatred' is stupid and illiberal too and should be repealed.

[Shasown]

Pretty stupid of her really, but hopefully something good would come out of it.

If she is prosecuted and punished it then sets a standard in law which has to be honoured. The next time radical muslims burn a copy of the Bible then the same standards have to be applied to them, if not double standards have then been shown to apply to UK law and the girl can them claim for a removal of the conviction and compensation.

[Grimnir]

maybe the girl read a bit about Mohammed and his little girl bride, this brought back some bad memories, so she thought :shocked:

BUUUUUUURN EEEEEEEEEEEEET

[arista]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-black-country-11835253

The irony. Its fine for them to burn the bible though. Is this arrest fair or silly?


They have to arrest,
thanks to 13 years of New Labour changing England.


War Criminal Blair changed the rules

[Ramsay]

imma make a video of me burning the bible and see if i get arrested

[Crimson Dynamo]

we all should burn that vile book

[Shasown]

we all should burn that vile book

Ahh and I thought you liked the Bible LT.

[M X]

I think she deserves it; it's just ignorant, rude and disrespectfull.

this.

[BB_Eye]

I think she deserves it; it's just ignorant, rude and disrespectfull.
Okay then, lets arrest every ignorant, rude and disrespectful teenager, because apparently that's breaking the law now.

[Judas]

Okay then, lets arrest every ignorant, rude and disrespectful teenager, because apparently that's breaking the law now.

Yes, but this is being ignorant, rude and disrespectfull to a whole religion... it's a bit different.

[Tom]

Yes, but this is being ignorant, rude and disrespectfull to a whole religion... it's a bit different.

The point of the thread is that muslims are always burning numerous copies of the bible with no consequence

[Judas]

The point of the thread is that muslims are always burning numerous copies of the bible with no consequence

And? Two rights does not make a wrong. You seem to forget these are Muslim EXTREMISTS who have burned the bible - not normal muslims. This is some stupid teenage girl who gets what she deserves, I doubt she even understand the Muslim faith.

[Stu]

Pft. Religion shouldn't have carte blanche to be respected by non believers.

I myself believe in space wolves. They can't be proven to exist, but they visit me each night and tell me to dropkick people in the face and that bread is sacred and not to be heated.

Don't make toast.

Respect my beliefsz ~~~.

See how riddiculous it is?

Facts are the only thing that should be respected.

[Vicky.]

Pft. Religion shouldn't have carte blanche to be respected by non believers.

I myself believe in space wolves. They can't be proven to exist, but they visit me each night and tell me to dropkick people in the face and that bread is sacred and not to be heated.

Don't make toast.

Respect my beliefsz ~~~.

See how riddiculous it is?

Facts are the only thing that should be respected.


I'm pretty much the same mindset as this (but I dont believe in space wolves...worshipping moomins is more my thing :joker:). But I also think if they are going to punish one, they should punish others for the same thing, otherwise its not really very fair and is prejudice in a way :/

[Tom4784]

I'm not surprised by this story at all, I live near that area and it's pretty much what I'd expect from there.

[Stu]

I'm pretty much the same mindset as this (but I dont believe in space wolves...worshipping moomins is more my thing :joker:). But I also think if they are going to punish one, they should punish others for the same thing, otherwise its not really very fair and is prejudice in a way :/
Then let you perish in canine hell, along with all the other non believers and people deemed unfit to join the ranks of the Grand Party by Big Daddy Wolfenstein.

[Kazanne]

They can go about burning our flags ,poppies and whatever they please,but we cannot burn a book?

[Tom4784]

They can go about burning our flags ,poppies and whatever they please,but we cannot burn a book?

Them and us attitudes never get anyone anywhere.

[Vicky.]

Them and us attitudes never get anyone anywhere.

True. But stuff like this doesnt exactly help people get out of that mindset...

[MTVN]

Them and us attitudes never get anyone anywhere.

This.

[Judas]

Facts are the only thing that should be respected.

I don't believe this statement. I don't think beliefs should be forced on people, and I don't think people should HAVE to accept beliefs.... I just don't think you should be blatently disrespectfull to peoples beliefs, mainly because it is just plain rude.

[Stu]

I don't believe this statement. I don't think beliefs should be forced on people, and I don't think people should HAVE to accept beliefs.... I just don't think you should be blatently disrespectfull to peoples beliefs, mainly because it is just plain rude.
And what if I find some of the beliefs outlined in the Koran 'rude' ... to put it lightly?

I'm sure I'm going to be burning myself in hell for an eternity. Are you telling me I can't burn a book for five minutes?

[Judas]

And what if I find some of the beliefs outlined in the Koran 'rude' ... to put it lightly?

I'm sure I'm going to be burning myself in hell for an eternity. Are you telling me I can't burn a book for five minutes?

I guess you could burn a book for five minutes, if you were to feel thats the best way you could express your views... however, I also think it's common courtesy and respect to do this in private, and not go boasting about it on facebook knowing it will hurt individuals. I also think this applies to Muslims etc. who do the same.

[Kazanne]

Them and us attitudes never get anyone anywhere.

Neither does trying to intergrate.

[Judas]

Neither does trying to intergrate.

LOL of course it does...that's one of the stupidest statements I have ever read.

[Shaun]

Neither does trying to intergrate.

yay apartheid!

[bananarama]

we all should burn that vile book

Well said. The truest and most sensible reply thus far.......Anyone burning that vile garbage should be given a medal.........

[Marc]

Does he even know what a Koran is

[/ignorance]

[bananarama]

I don't believe this statement. I don't think beliefs should be forced on people, and I don't think people should HAVE to accept beliefs.... I just don't think you should be blatently disrespectfull to peoples beliefs, mainly because it is just plain rude.

If ones personal belief that another belief is obcene then one has a perfect right to disrespect that belief........To pretend to respect another belief when you don't is hypocritical........

No one can go through life not offending or being offended........It's impossible.......But that is what the mad brigade political correctness nutters think is possible......

[Patrick]

I thought Koran was a country for a sec, I was like 'What a legend, burning a country by himself at that age.'

[Judas]

Does he even know what a Koran is
Is this for me or someone else? :hugesmile:

[/ignorance]

If ones personal belief that another belief is obcene then one has a perfect right to disrespect that belief........To pretend to respect another belief when you don't is hypocritical........

No one can go through life not offending or being offended........It's impossible.......But that is what the mad brigade political correctness nutters think is possible......
Maybe I'm not expressing my views very well, I guess you can diasagree with peoples views, although this should be done in a respectfull way. For example, a debate on the Qur'an rather than burning it and bragging about burning it.

[bananarama]

Maybe I'm not expressing my views very well, I guess you can diasagree with peoples views, although this should be done in a respectfull way. For example, a debate on the Qur'an rather than burning it and bragging about burning it.

Would you disagree with the rules of Adolf Hitler in a respectful way......No you would if at all civilised want to burn his bloody rule book......

[Stu]

If ones personal belief that another belief is obcene then one has a perfect right to disrespect that belief........To pretend to respect another belief when you don't is hypocritical........

No one can go through life not offending or being offended........It's impossible.......But that is what the mad brigade political correctness nutters think is possible......
I agree with you for once.

[Judas]

Would you disagree with the rules of Adolf Hitler in a respectful way......No you would if at all civilised want to burn his bloody rule book......

Thats a good point - however, the Koran is a holy book that is the backbone of many peoples lifes; people interpret it in different ways (some, in unjustifiable ways) but I don't think it is right to burn it and brag about it. Do we really need more religious hatred?

I know you could say now that I am not giving it full respect saying some interpretations are 'unjustifiable' but I think in situations like this it is good to use some common sense as to what is 'moral' as such.

[bananarama]

Thats a good point - however, the Koran is a holy book that is the backbone of many peoples lifes; people interpret it in different ways (some, in unjustifiable ways) but I don't think it is right to burn it and brag about it. Do we really need more religious hatred?

I know you could say now that I am not giving it full respect saying some interpretations are 'unjustifiable' but I think in situations like this it is good to use some common sense as to what is 'moral' as such.

The word HOLY in bold.......Dear oh dear. When one uses the word HOLY it has the same meaning as SINISTER. HOLY controls peoples minds........It's evil in its most profound form........One should do nothing else but disrespect evil.......

[bananarama]

I agree with you for once.


WOW. Lets put the flags out.....:hugesmile:

[InOne]

Judas, the Quran is not a Holy book. Why is it Holy, just because someone says it is? It's just a fictional book, nothing else.

And as for the girl, it's a shame that her acts got her that attention, but I'm not suprised. Can't be having Muslims offended now can we!

[Tom]

Judas, the Quran is not a Holy book. Why is it Holy, just because someone says it is? It's just a fictional book, nothing else.

And as for the girl, it's a shame that her acts got her that attention, but I'm not suprised. Can't be having Muslims offended now can we!

A facebook group sums up religion in one go

"Christianity: One woman's lie about having an affair that got out of hand"

[Vicky.]

A facebook group sums up religion in one go

"Christianity: One woman's lie about having an affair that got out of hand"

haha perfect :D

Edit. Just joined that :laugh:

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

i remember having a bible fight in the chapel in school coz there was a trolley with about 50 small bibles on an i was like

DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD (machine gun) eeeeeooowww pfff (grenade)

pow pow zkhrismxhdyskznxd


i got suspended for 2 weeks

[MTVN]

A facebook group sums up religion in one go

"Christianity: One woman's lie about having an affair that got out of hand"

I love this quote:

"To most Christians, the Bible is like a software license. Nobody actually reads it. They just scroll to the bottom and click "I agree".

[Grimnir]

A facebook group sums up religion in one go

"Christianity: One woman's lie about having an affair that got out of hand"

:hugesmile:

my belief has always been she was raped, but that doesnt exactly make a good bedtime story for kids now does it :shocked:

[Tom]

i remember having a bible fight in the chapel in school coz there was a trolley with about 50 small bibles on an i was like

DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD (machine gun) eeeeeooowww pfff (grenade)

pow pow zkhrismxhdyskznxd


i got suspended for 2 weeks

We got a free bible each in assembly in about year 7 or 8 or something so had a bible fight in the yard (similar to a snowball fight but with bibles instead). The teachers found it funny (but still attempted to stop us and put some people in detention) but the RE teachers weren't impressed

[Tom4784]

Neither does trying to intergrate.

:laugh3:

That's one of the most ignorant posts I've seen on here, Of course intergration helps. Look at South Africa, granted it's still quite dangerous in places but it's in a much better position then it was under apartheid. That's just one example I can think of on the top of my head. Another example could be America in the 40's-60's where segregation was rife, that didn't help much either.

[arista]

Burn the book
but do not let the Media know about it.


Life In The Fast Lane.

[Judas]

A facebook group sums up religion in one go

"Christianity: One woman's lie about having an affair that got out of hand"

That's stupid... because that part of the 'lie' came after lots more 'lies'.

[Tom]

That's stupid... because that part of the 'lie' came after lots more 'lies'.

The old testament was [allegedly] written thousands of years before Christanity was a religion

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

We got a free bible each in assembly in about year 7 or 8 or something so had a bible fight in the yard (similar to a snowball fight but with bibles instead). The teachers found it funny (but still attempted to stop us and put some people in detention) but the RE teachers weren't impressed

i miss school :love:

apart from being universally hated and having to get up really early it was awesome :love:

[letmein]

The old testament was [allegedly] written thousands of years before Christanity was a religion

The Old Testament DEFINITELY came before Christianity. lulz!

[Stu]

The Jesus story was one of many stories created to try and fulfill the Old Testament. And it was one that caught on.

Almost every facet of Jesus Christ's life is present in hundreds of other mythologies and gods that came before him. Jesus is like a 'best of' compilation.

[Z]

The Jesus story was one of many stories created to try and fulfill the Old Testament. And it was one that caught on.

Almost every facet of Jesus Christ's life is present in hundreds of other mythologies and gods that came before him. Jesus is like a 'best of' compilation.

Now That's What I Call Religion!

[Judas]

Now That's What I Call Religion!

When is it realised? I have the whole NOW! collection, I need this edition.

-end's intelligient input-

[arista]

When is it realised? I have the whole NOW! collection, I need this edition.

-end's intelligient input-


http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51CR1BZ2E0L._SS500_.jpg



Judas
There is No God
some of us know the real truth.


Feel The Force

[Stu]

Pft. Dawkins is for pussies. Hitchens - now he goes to town on the nutters. The sweaty old drunkard.

[Judas]

Judas
There is No God
some of us know the real truth.


That is not what I was originally arguing about though, arista. And that statement can never be true, there can never be a way to know 100% there is no 'superior being'. We can believe if there is or isn't - but we can never know.

(Personally I'm undecided/non believer)

[arista]

"but we can never know. "



You can Never say never on that.

[arista]

Pft. Dawkins is for pussies. Hitchens - now he goes to town on the nutters. The sweaty old drunkard.


Yes I have Hitchens book as well,
of course he is still alive but for how long we sadly do not know
due his illnes.

[BB_Eye]

Yes, but this is being ignorant, rude and disrespectfull to a whole religion... it's a bit different.
Why should that be an arrestable offence? Disrespecting Christianity for one thing is great fun, as evidenced by Jerry Springer: the Opera, which also got banned thanks to complaining crybabies.

I don't know about you, but I don't like blasphemy laws.

[InOne]

Why should that be an arrestable offence? Disrespecting Christianity for one thing is great fun, as evidenced by Jerry Springer: the Opera, which also got banned thanks to complaining crybabies.

I don't know about you, but I don't like blasphemy laws.

And it's not like Islam is even a Religion of the country or anything.