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Jessica.
09-12-2010, 09:23 AM
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Jessica.
09-12-2010, 09:25 AM
Oops, forgot to say, I love meat myself and I wouldn't be able to live without it. :love:
I am a vegetarian - not for moral reasons though I just dont like meat, the smell the texture everything about it repulses me. I didn't use to be able to cook meat for this reason but now I can and do because I live with 3 meat eaters. I do have to wear those surgical gloves to handle it though - I couldn't bear to have it touch my skin:crazy:
Jessica.
09-12-2010, 09:40 AM
I am a vegetarian - not for moral reasons though I just dont like meat, the smell the texture everything about it repulses me. I didn't use to be able to cook meat for this reason but now I can and do because I live with 3 meat eaters. I do have to wear those surgical gloves to handle it though - I couldn't bear to have it touch my skin:crazy:
:shocked: Do you eat fish and poultry?
I eat fish but not poultry - I guess I'm a non meat eater as opposed to being a vegetarian its more that I have a 'thing' about meat but strangely I can cook it now but its taken a while to be able to do that
fruit_cake
09-12-2010, 10:21 AM
I eat meat when people give me it, but I won't buy it.. In my weird moral way of thinking about things that way I get the best of both worlds! I don't contribute to the profit making but get to enjoy eating it? after all once its dead its dead, and once it's bought it's bought
No. It was idealistic growing up but I simply don't care enough anymore. Why do vegetarians eat plants and vegetables? Are they not living organisms connected to the eco system too?
Is it because they don't look cute?
And if you are going to base it on cognitive awareness isin't that ... wrong? How much more emotionally vulnerable is a fish when compared to a plant?
fruit_cake
09-12-2010, 11:54 AM
No. It was idealistic growing up but I simply don't care enough anymore. Why do vegetarians eat plants and vegetables? Are they not living organisms connected to the eco system too?
Is it because they don't look cute?
And if you are going to base it on cognitive awareness isin't that ... wrong? How much more emotionally vulnerable is a fish when compared to a plant?
well it can feel pain for a start!
Niamh.
09-12-2010, 11:58 AM
No, I was for a few years when I was younger, from about 15 to 18, because I loved animals (eventhough I still wore leather so it didn't really make sense!) then after a night out and a few drinks I gave in and got a chicken burger in BurgerKing, never looked back since!
fruit_cake
09-12-2010, 12:00 PM
I saw a documentary on how they farmed pigs.. it was awful, the poor things were living stacked up in pens barely big enough to move, then when it was time to slaughter them, half the time the electric shock didn't work and they all knew what was coming. Horrific, poor little piggies.
well it can feel pain for a start!
But you don't mind capatalizing on that as long as someone else is picking up the tab?
What wonderfully bizarre logic you have got.
Everything in the animal kingdom feels pain. We can intellectualize that and bring it to an emotional level unlike pigs which is what seperates us. I take it you are also against killing spiders and catching mice etc?
Yes. I really don't see why people need to eat meat when there's so much other food available to us nowadays. People have a stereotypical view of vegetarians that we just eat vegetables, that's not the case. There's loads of vegetarian food you can eat which is just as healthy and, in my opinion, is much nicer than eating a dead animal.
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'Ignorance is bliss'.
fruit_cake
09-12-2010, 12:26 PM
But you don't mind capatalizing on that as long as someone else is picking up the tab?
What wonderfully bizarre logic you have got.
Everything in the animal kingdom feels pain. We can intellectualize that and bring it to an emotional level unlike pigs which is what seperates us. I take it you are also against killing spiders and catching mice etc?
well I suppose it is bizarre logic but if you don't contribute financially to the slaughter, sooner or later it'll stop as long as everyone else does the same of course?
I avoid spiders, but if necessary I can manage getting a cup and a piece of paper and then chucking them out of the window or something like that. I've not had a problem with mice before.. not sure how I'd handle that one if it were to arise. I'm sure there is a humane way though.
There's no need to inflict pain if its not necessary IMO.
well I suppose it is bizarre logic but if you don't contribute financially to the slaughter, sooner or later it'll stop as long as everyone else does the same of course?
I avoid spiders, but if necessary I can manage getting a cup and a piece of paper and then chucking them out of the window or something like that. I've not had a problem with mice before.. not sure how I'd handle that one if it were to arise. I'm sure there is a humane way though.
There's no need to inflict pain if its not necessary IMO.
Everyones not going to stop though. Especially if people are more than happy to accept free hand outs for christ sake. It would be almost better if you did pay for it and at least support the farmer who hurt and killed the pig you didn't mind deriving pleasure from as long as it's free.
To be blunt it's downright nonsensical logic. The farmer inflicts pain because people like the taste of meat. Ring a bell? See where I am going with this? You are supporting something you claim to hate one way or another. A dead pig doesn't give a crap how much you payed for a piece of it's carcass.
fruit_cake
09-12-2010, 12:41 PM
Everyones not going to stop though. Especially if people are more than happy to accept free hand outs for christ sake. It would be almost better if you did pay for it and at least support the farmer who hurt and killed the pig you didn't mind deriving pleasure from as long as it's free.
To be blunt it's downright nonsensical logic. The farmer inflicts pain because people like the taste of meat. Ring a bell? See where I am going with this? You are supporting something you claim to hate one way or another. A dead pig doesn't give a crap how much you payed for a piece of it's carcass.
well, everyone can do what ever they want.. It's a personal choice isn't it? It makes me feel a bit better than buying it, maybe its not perfect and nonsensical or irrational or whatever, but frankly I couldn't care less!!
:flowers:
It's exactly the same as buying it yourself if someone else buys it for you BUT if like ChristmasCake said someone has give it you in which I assume they don't intend to replace it then how is that the same? Like ChristmasCake said its supply&demand, if you stop buying from them they will stop selling & if that piece of meat was going to go in the bin & you take it instead thats not giving any profit whatsoever to the process.?
I'm a vegetarian btw :hugesmile:
fruit_cake
09-12-2010, 12:54 PM
The farmer inflicts pain because people like the taste of meat.
the farmer inflicts pain because it makes him $$$$$ :nono:
fruit_cake
09-12-2010, 12:55 PM
It's exactly the same as buying it yourself if someone else buys it for you BUT if like ChristmasCake said someone has give it you in which I assume they don't intend to replace it then how is that the same? Like ChristmasCake said its supply&demand, if you stop buying from them they will stop selling & if that piece of meat was going to go in the bin & you take it instead thats not giving any profit whatsoever to the process.?
I'm a vegetarian btw :hugesmile:
supply and demand.. that's it!
Miss Ivy Balls
09-12-2010, 01:06 PM
Christmas Cake is made from an animal?
Didn't know that.
Nothing worse that eating a steak and chomping on a bit of fat that is really tough.
I like Chicken.
Anyone eat black pudding?
They hang the pig up on a metal prod then cut its belly open, you see the blood gush out and that is what you're eating. :yuk:
Princess
09-12-2010, 01:30 PM
Yeah,have been for 7 years now. Moral reasons and all that. I really don't like when people argue with me about it though,if they want to understand it,fine. But I get so pissed off when people rant at me for being one,it's my choice,it doesn't affect them,I don't rant at them to be vegetarians.
LemonJam
09-12-2010, 01:30 PM
I'm vegetarian. Meat just disturbs me.
GypsyGoth
09-12-2010, 01:34 PM
Chicken or cow are four meals out of the week, the others are usually one veg and two fish. I would like to be more vegetarian, I'm working on it.
InOne
09-12-2010, 01:35 PM
Nah, I'd probably like to be, but eating meat is part of life.
I tried bein vegetarian once.. Not because of morals or a dislke of meat, just because I was at that age where I was going through different fads and generally being a bit mental. I lasted approx 2 days as I had forgotten that I actually hate vegetables! I nearly starved to death! :(
Nah, I love meat too much to ever consider going veggie, although, I do limit my family's red meat intake :)
I'm vegetarian. Meat just disturbs me.
:nono: Bitch you know that's a lie. :amazed:
LemonJam
09-12-2010, 01:40 PM
:nono: Bitch you know that's a lie. :amazed:
Get your vagina away from me, Greg.
Get your vagina away from me, Greg.
:( I just want to be loved
I dont think I could live without meat, and I dont feel any particular moral qualm when I do so, animals have always eaten other animals, we are naturally suited for it and I dont really feel a responsibility to change that
Ramsay
09-12-2010, 03:50 PM
no way i can never imagine being one either
i wont give veggies any grief about being one though i know how annoying it is when people give me **** about smoking
Stacey.
09-12-2010, 04:20 PM
Nope I'm not, or never would be.. but I did want to be a while ago, just because it's like rank to actually think of eating animals. But my cousin was one and got really ill from it, so it put me off the idea.
the farmer inflicts pain because it makes him $$$$$ :nono:
Because ...
*sigh*
Your welcome to your own beliefs as long as you realize you esentially just crave the feelgood aspect of vegetarianism but without being willing to stop eating meat. That oblivious description the other person gave has got nothing to do with supply and demand either. We are not all going to suddenly stop buying meat to simply start eating others [presumably people who are ... you guessed it ... buying meat] The meat business is not going to vanish anytime soon. And people are not suddenly going to decide to buy twice more meat to become willing meat doners to people like you.
Actually I'm confusing myself trying to even work my way out of that batshit insane description of supply and demand. The demand is still there in some form or another. Thus so is the supply.
Princess
09-12-2010, 05:54 PM
no way i can never imagine being one either
i wont give veggies any grief about being one though i know how annoying it is when people give me **** about smoking
I try my hardest not to give out to smokers :laugh:
Beastie
09-12-2010, 05:55 PM
No. I like to eat dead animals.
Niall
09-12-2010, 05:59 PM
I've always wanted to be a vegetarian but I don't think I'll ever have the patience for it. I love chicken and beef far too much! :love:
Tom4784
09-12-2010, 05:59 PM
It's not my cup of tea really, and I don't really care about the moral factors truthfully, I've got bigger things to worry about then how happy my slice of beef was when it was a cow. Not that I'm against vegetarianism, do what you like. I just don't care.
It's not my cup of tea really, and I don't really care about the moral factors truthfully, I've got bigger things to worry about then how happy my slice of beef was when it was a cow. Not that I'm against vegetarianism, do what you like. I just don't care.
To go all moral highground, I wonder how many vegetarians put as much effort into fighting for the human condition ... or helping starving people on the street. People first. Sure they are not as cute but I'm really not into this 'everything is equal' bollocks.
Kill a cow and give a homeless person a burger. That's a slogan for yis.
MeMyselfAndI
09-12-2010, 06:16 PM
thought about being a vegertarian many times. but im not one
Stephanie
09-12-2010, 06:18 PM
tried it twice, first time lasted 3 months, and the second like.. a week, which you probably know LOL. couldn't do it, meat <3
i don't like that it's dead animals though, but i'm not affected by it enough to stick with it.
Stephanie
09-12-2010, 06:18 PM
tried it twice, first time lasted 3 months, and the second like.. a week, which you probably know LOL. couldn't do it, meat <3
i don't like that it's dead animals though, but i'm not affected by it enough to stick with it.
Shaun
09-12-2010, 06:26 PM
No. I like meat.
I hate how idealistic some vegans are - the claims that "they're lives! you're selfish!!! murderer!!!" well newsflash, sweetheart: the human race is superior. The notion of murder doesn't apply to animals - otherwise you'd see bears with police forces and lions with prison systems. A little dose of morality won't stop a cheetah from ripping your face off, and it won't stop me from having a chicken nugget.
[i'm aware this is a wild comparison]
You need meat in your diet, the human body isn't made to live without it. You can substitute it but substitutes are never as good as the real thing.
What annoys me about vegans is that they moan about eggs, milk etc but chickens are going to have their period regardless and cows NEED to be milked, that might as well go to some good use
I put a raw joint in a vegetarians trolley once in Asda.
arista
09-12-2010, 06:36 PM
"I put a raw joint in a vegetarians trolley once in Asda."
Thats the Spirit.
Fetch The Bolt Cutters
09-12-2010, 06:49 PM
bears with police forces :lovedup:
Princess
09-12-2010, 07:00 PM
You need meat in your diet, the human body isn't made to live without it. You can substitute it but substitutes are never as good as the real thing.
What annoys me about vegans is that they moan about eggs, milk etc but chickens are going to have their period regardless and cows NEED to be milked, that might as well go to some good use
I put a raw joint in a vegetarians trolley once in Asda.
That's just mean :p
Vicky.
09-12-2010, 07:43 PM
I like meat too much. Not too fond of chicken but red meat :love:
I also hate when people get all uppity about people eating eggs and stuff :/
Kazanne
09-12-2010, 07:57 PM
I'm a veggie,have been for years
To go all moral highground, I wonder how many vegetarians put as much effort into fighting for the human condition ... or helping starving people on the street. People first. Sure they are not as cute but I'm really not into this 'everything is equal' bollocks.
Kill a cow and give a homeless person a burger. That's a slogan for yis.
How is being a vegetarian puting animals before people? People are clever enough to curve natures laws & not depend on meat & you can't seriously think that vegetarians don't have any effect on the meat industry. Supply & demand, if all vegetarians sudenly bought meat a lot more animals would be slaughtered. & I would'nt be surprised to find out a lot more vegs donate to charity/volunteer than non vegs.
Jessica.
10-12-2010, 11:55 AM
You need meat in your diet, the human body isn't made to live without it. You can substitute it but substitutes are never as good as the real thing.
What annoys me about vegans is that they moan about eggs, milk etc but chickens are going to have their period regardless and cows NEED to be milked, that might as well go to some good use
I put a raw joint in a vegetarians trolley once in Asda.
That made me gag a bit, I feel a bit better about being allergic to eggs now.
Fetch The Bolt Cutters
10-12-2010, 04:48 PM
this is kinda gross but i hate it when you crack an egg and it has those little white blobs in, thats where the embryo has started to develop but stopped :yuk:
chicky miscarriage :bawling:
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