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Crimson Dynamo
31-01-2011, 03:43 PM
This is view held by many from the islamic faith and this 44 year old preacher at the new NYC mosque has put his theory out. How do you find it?

According to the New York Post Adhami, 44, said being gay was a 'painful trial' which comes as a result of past trauma.
He said: 'An enormously overwhelming percentage of people struggle with homosexual feeling because of some form of violent emotional or sexual abuse at some point in their life. A small, tiny percentage of people are born with a natural inclination that they cannot explain. You find this in the animal kingdom at some level as well.'



Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1352181/Ground-Zero-mosque-developers-apply-5m-grant-9-11-fund.html#ixzz1Cd0A1uAL

Chuck
31-01-2011, 04:36 PM
Obviously most of gay people are born gay.

But take Corin, as an example, IMO she only "turned" bisexual because loosing the man she loved, whom she was married with, was so horrible and painful, that she felt she couldnt date another man, because she still had some sort of feelings for him.

If thats not a trauma, then I dont know what trauma is... :(

Zippy
31-01-2011, 04:46 PM
This is view held by many from the islamic faith and this 44 year old preacher at the new NYC mosque has put his theory out. How do you find it?

According to the New York Post Adhami, 44, said being gay was a 'painful trial' which comes as a result of past trauma.
He said: 'An enormously overwhelming percentage of people struggle with homosexual feeling because of some form of violent emotional or sexual abuse at some point in their life. A small, tiny percentage of people are born with a natural inclination that they cannot explain. You find this in the animal kingdom at some level as well.'



Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1352181/Ground-Zero-mosque-developers-apply-5m-grant-9-11-fund.html#ixzz1Cd0A1uAL

LOL who the heck appointed him world expert on homosexuality?

Truth is nobody has conclusive explanation for sexual persuasions. It's an extremely complex subject. Im sure there are all kinds of reasons and factors thrown into the mix. But does it really matter?

All you need to know is that it is a fact of life so deal with it. Sexuality has always come in all flavours and will continue to do so until the end of time.

arista
31-01-2011, 05:43 PM
"Truth is nobody has conclusive explanation for sexual persuasions."


They have
but it appears you were asleep when it was on TV.

Niall
31-01-2011, 05:56 PM
Being gay is genetic. It has nothing to do with your environmental influences. Its all decided in your DNA not by you after you're born.

This guys is spouting bullsh!t.

Fetch The Bolt Cutters
31-01-2011, 06:00 PM
i dont think your born gay :L

i dont think its a a result of past trauma either

Shaun
31-01-2011, 06:50 PM
Nope, never suffered any of that. Do please keep trying to pinpoint the explanation as to why I am what I am, though, LT, because it makes me feel really good about myself.

Zippy
31-01-2011, 07:30 PM
Being gay is genetic. It has nothing to do with your environmental influences.

I think it's a mixture of both and a sprinkling of fairy dust thrown in.

Zippy
31-01-2011, 07:31 PM
They have


no they don't.

but people tend to believe what suits.

BB_Eye
31-01-2011, 10:03 PM
I resent Human Rights Campaign's sophomoric attempt to label Adhami's views as 'hateful'. As is typical of HRC, they are eager to sensationalise a story and betray their narrow definition of tolerance in the way they go about creating divisions and enmity between minorities. Their euphemistic name belies their status as a single-issue advocacy group (itself a euphemism for 'lobbying organisation'). Ironically, it wouldn't be a stretch to say HRC's own views on the subject of gay rights are no less reactionary than those of Adhami. They publically disowned their campaign for same-sex marriage back in 2009 following constitutional amendments in 11 US states to outlaw it. I can only imagine what a disgusting insult this must have been to their donors and supporters. Maybe they should practice what they preach before judging muslims.

Dated and ill-informed his statement might be, but remember he doesn't necessarily proclaim homosexuality as a sin and even admitted homosexuality can be a natural occurance. This is a highly progressive view in the context of not just Islam, but the Abrahamic religions in general. Why berate him for saying something that would barely have raised an eyebrow coming from somebody like the Archbishop of Canterbury or Cardinal Cormac Murphy-O'Paedo?

Niall
31-01-2011, 10:11 PM
I think it's a mixture of both and a sprinkling of fairy dust thrown in.

:laugh: at the fairy dust bit.

I just think that you may go through a phase of confusion over your sexuality but ultimately one trait will be more dominant than the other. Thats the best I can explain it. :laugh:

MrWong
01-02-2011, 02:36 PM
Is Adhami speaking from experience?

MrWong
01-02-2011, 02:43 PM
He hates all Gays.

:shocked:

This study is interesting: http://academic.research.microsoft.com/Paper/3278780.aspx

:D

Crimson Dynamo
01-02-2011, 02:49 PM
:shocked:

This study is interesting: http://academic.research.microsoft.com/Paper/3278780.aspx

:D

as is using the accusation of being a homosexual as a means of derision in order to gain popularity whilst at the same time being sadly homophobic....


oh:shocked:

MrWong
01-02-2011, 02:52 PM
as is using the accusation of being a homosexual as a means of derision in order to gain popularity whilst at the same time being sadly homophobic....


oh:shocked:


:conf:

Come again?

Crimson Dynamo
01-02-2011, 02:53 PM
:conf:

Come again?

thats what he said

Niamh.
01-02-2011, 03:54 PM
stay on topic please.

lostalex
03-02-2011, 11:12 AM
Gay people are gay for the same reason str8 people aRE STR8.

Why are str8 people str8? i have no idea.

http://i780.photobucket.com/albums/yy87/j-e-lee/tumblr_la43wvPpIx1qa28sco1_12801.jpg

letmein
05-02-2011, 11:59 AM
This view is also held by Christians, who spout it on a daily basis, and are determined to keep gays and lesbians from gaining any equal rights.

Anyway, yes, I'm gay because I was traumatized. Thanks for letting me in on that.

cub
21-02-2011, 06:12 PM
Why is the OP so fascinated by homosexuality, I ask myself ...

Angus
25-02-2011, 07:21 AM
So one has to be "fascinated" by a subject in order to debate it? How about just curious about or interested in other people's views?

Shaun
25-02-2011, 08:15 AM
how about bigoted?

billy123
25-02-2011, 09:16 AM
Adhami, 44, said being gay was a 'painful trial'

Yes ive heard its a right pain in the arse. :hugesmile:

_Seth
25-02-2011, 02:24 PM
So one has to be "fascinated" by a subject in order to debate it? How about just curious about or interested in other people's views?

The OP does make a lot of threads on homosexuality.

karezza
26-02-2011, 10:40 AM
According to Sigmeund Freud, in the infantile mind the functions of procreation & reproduction confused.

letmein
04-03-2011, 12:49 PM
According to Sigmeund Freud, in the infantile mind the functions of procreation & reproduction confused.

Freud also hated women, and had extreme issues with his mother.:cat: