Sendai earthquake/tsunami [Another quake hits]

[Smithy]

Radiation levels have fallen at Japan's earthquake-stricken Fukushima Daiichi nuclear plant, the government says.

Finally some good news

[James]

I've deleted some posts, and their responses. A few posters were trivialising this topic.

[Pyramid*]

Finally some good news

To be perfectly honest: I'm not entirely sure I trust any information that is being released from the Japanese government.

Remember, they initially said of the first reactor that exploded, that it wasn't an explosion, that the roof had collapsed only - then later admitted it was an explosion.

I hope it is the case that they are being truthful, I'm not entirely convinced.

[Shaun]

I find it a bit sick that C4 is picking up on some supposed investigation into Fukushima prior to the earthquake. Yeah. Because it was just chance that the nuclear plant's facilities failed just around the time of the 5th biggest earthquake of all time :rolleyes:

[Pyramid*]

I find it a bit sick that C4 is picking up on some supposed investigation into Fukushima prior to the earthquake. Yeah. Because it was just chance that the nuclear plant's facilities failed just around the time of the 5th biggest earthquake of all time :rolleyes:

three years ago, experts found that procedures and standards were not being met as they had been recorded. Several years ago, at the same plant, the Japanese were found to be falsifying records in respect of the Safety of the plant. I think it' s perfectly understandabe - these things have to be addressed - if there is any truth in these stories: the Japanese could have avoided the very situation they find themselves in as far as dealing with the nuclear plants is concerned.

This link gives some info on previous cover ups in Japan's nuclear industry:-

http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2011/03/14/3163785.htm

[Shaun]

That's a pretty vague article. The only specific example of covering-up information it alludes to is:

He says in 2003 reactors across the country had to be shut down after it emerged the Tokyo Electric Power Company (TEPCO) had hid accidents.

"They had to shut down 17 plants in 2003 because they'd been falsifying the records about what had been happening at them," he said.

"Now the accidents weren't of a major nature. They weren't anything like what's going on in Fukushima.

I think maybe there's confusion in the area. Perhaps the line is being blurred between a lack of hard information (due to the hectic nature of the damage) and people trying to get all of this information. It just seems a bit disrespectful to accuse the government of lying (ohay recurring theme tonight :laugh:) - why would they? The explosions have been well documented; international media is at an all-time high - it would be foolish to try and hide information.

[Tom.]

I find it a bit sick that C4 is picking up on some supposed investigation into Fukushima prior to the earthquake. Yeah. Because it was just chance that the nuclear plant's facilities failed just around the time of the 5th biggest earthquake of all time :rolleyes:

There might have been something up with the plant and the earthquake just made those problems worse and 'tipped' it over the edge so to speak.

What I'm finding sick is Americans saying its payback for Peal Harbour. Wasn't that the atomic bomb that killed 100 times as many as was killed at PH? They're slightly forgetting that small fact

[Shaun]

Yeah I guess. I suppose time will tell, I just think it's a bit presumptuous to make their govt. look like they've done something wrong when it could all well just be an unavoidable disaster.

[Tom.]

Yeah I guess. I suppose time will tell, I just think it's a bit presumptuous to make their govt. look like they've done something wrong when it could all well just be an unavoidable disaster.

Thats ITN for you, they overanalyse everything.

[Pyramid*]

That's a pretty vague article. The only specific example of covering-up information it alludes to is:



I think maybe there's confusion in the area. Perhaps the line is being blurred between a lack of hard information (due to the hectic nature of the damage) and people trying to get all of this information. It just seems a bit disrespectful to accuse the government of lying (ohay recurring theme tonight :laugh:) - why would they? The explosions have been well documented; international media is at an all-time high - it would be foolish to try and hide information.


It was one of only a great many that can be found - was as an example only.

The Japanese (and lots of other governments around the world too for that matter) don't have good history in truth telling.

Time will tell.

[Pyramid*]

There might have been something up with the plant and the earthquake just made those problems worse and 'tipped' it over the edge so to speak.

What I'm finding sick is Americans saying its payback for Peal Harbour. Wasn't that the atomic bomb that killed 100 times as many as was killed at PH? They're slightly forgetting that small fact

What gets me is that many of those who are coming out with lines like that, most likely weren't around during Pearl Harbour Attack - it's just in bred bitterness travelling through generations. It's an incredibly warped and sick way to view progress that has been made over many decades. Presumably all these people who are citing such nonsense, never purchase anything of Japanese origin...... and that I doubt.

How anyone can take any form of pleasure in this is truly beyond comprehension. :(

[Zippy]

What I'm finding sick is Americans saying its payback for Peal Harbour.

I don't think they are.

[MTVN]

I don't think they are.

Some of them are apparently, it's been trending on Twitter and I read an article saying it was happening on Facebook too.

[James]

There might have been something up with the plant and the earthquake just made those problems worse and 'tipped' it over the edge so to speak.

What I'm finding sick is Americans saying its payback for Peal Harbour. Wasn't that the atomic bomb that killed 100 times as many as was killed at PH? They're slightly forgetting that small fact

Unfortunately, there is a lot of childishness and irresponsibility on the Internet. People think they can say anything because they are effectively anonymous and are never (or rarely at most) held to account for anything they say.

[James]

I have been checking this site for updates about the nuclear plant. http://world-nuclear-news.org/default.aspx

It seems to sum up the official information coming out quite well.

[Tom.]

I don't think they are.

http://twitter.com/#search?q=japan%20pearl%20harbor

[Pyramid*]

Some of them are apparently, it's been trending on Twitter and I read an article saying it was happening on Facebook too.

Yep - I recall seeing it starting to gain speed around Sunday or thereabouts.

[Pyramid*]

Unfortunately, there is a lot of childishness and irresponsibility on the Internet. People think they can say anything because they are effectively anonymous and are never (or rarely at most) held to account for anything they say.

Very true.... and to confirm exactly that....

http://twitter.com/#search?q=japan%20pearl%20harbor


Some of the comments must come from completely warped minds - or sheer idiocy. May these people who leave such messages never have to experience anything remotely like like - they will rue the day.



Update from BBC
2022: The head of the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA), Yukiya Amano, has said he wants more timely and detailed information about developments at the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear plant from the Japanese authorities. "The problem is very complicated, we do not have all the details of the information so what we can do is limited," he told a news conference in Vienna, according to Reuters


If communications are disrupted - it's going to be very difficult to get info.

Its the poor (brave and dedicated) souls still working in the Plants that are to be truly commended. God knows what hell they may possibly face from a health perspective.

[Zippy]

http://twitter.com/#search?q=japan%20pearl%20harbor

personally I don't take a few anonymous idiots on the internet seriously

they certainly don't represent American opinion generally

[Benjamin]

Two crew members on an Australian search and rescue helicopter showed low levels of radiation contamination after they were forced to make an emergency landing in Fukushima on Wednesday, AFP news agency reports. Australian Prime Minister Julia Gillard was quoted as saying the radiation was detected on their boots. They landed about 12 miles (20km) outside the exclusion zone surrounding the plant.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-12307698

[Josy]

A spike in radiation levels at Japan's stricken Fukushima nuclear plant forces workers to suspend their operations

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-pacific-12755739

[Benjamin]

An earthquake hits eastern Japan, with the force strong enough to sway buildings in Tokyo

More details on that new quake. No tsunami warning was immediately issued, but the Japan Meteorological Agency said a change in sea levels was possible, the AFP reports.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-12307698

[Novo]

0422: The Japan Meteorological Agency said it was a 6.0 magnitude quake in the Pacific just off Chiba prefecture.

[Pyramid*]

0847: The UK's Daily Telegraph has a piece based on Wikileaks cables (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/wikileaks/8384059/Japan-earthquake-Japan-warned-over-nuclear-plants-WikiLeaks-cables-show.html)saying Japan was warned by the IAEA more than two years ago that its nuclear power plants were not capable of withstanding powerful earthquakes.

Now what was that being mentioned earlier about, " it's a bit presumptuous to make their govt. look like they've done something wrong when it could all well just be an unavoidable disaster".
To the contrary, if this report is correct - they may well have done something wrong - in not taking any corrective action 2 years ago - as far as the situ now in nuclear plants are concerned.

[Kerry]

Only saw the news briefly earlier but it looked like it was snowing? It's like Mother Nature is taking the piss in Japan :(

[Benjamin]

Only saw the news briefly earlier but it looked like it was snowing? It's like Mother Nature is taking the piss in Japan :(

Yeah, it started snowing yesterday. :sad:

[Kerry]

Yeah, it started snowing yesterday. :sad:

Fecks sake. Like theres not enough hindering them.

I was fuming earlier as some rescue workers from our region were heading there to help but have been turned away due to 'red tape'. They literally had to sit in the airport and watch these people on the TV's suffer and knowing they could help but got told to go home :mad:

[Benjamin]

http://i56.tinypic.com/1zewk7p.jpg

[Kerry]

It really is like theres someone 'up there' thinking "Ooooh what can I do next???" :(

[BB_Eye]

I really hope everyone in Japan can get back on their feet sooner rather than later. This just seems to be going on and on. :(

And what is everybody's thoughts on the Fukushima Daiichi power plant? I am fairly anti-nuclear, so naturally these sorts of things scare the crap out of me and maybe I am being too alarmist in the scheme of things. It's just that nobody has come out and said exactly what the plan is to successfully stablise the reactors and they are running out of options. They're now even scared to send helicoptors to pour seawater into the vessels, because the people inside would be exposed.

I saw a pretty harrowing report on the news of hospital patients stranded within the evacuation zone and doctors risking their lives to stay there with them in the fallout. But they can't obtain the medical supplies they need because everybody is too scared enter the area.

[Benjamin]

I really hope everyone in Japan can get back on their feet sooner rather than later. This just seems to be going on and on. :(

And what is everybody's thoughts on the Fukushima Daiichi power plant? I am fairly anti-nuclear, so naturally these sorts of things scare the crap out of me and maybe I am being too alarmist in the scheme of things. It's just that nobody has come out and said exactly what the plan is to successfully stablise the reactors and they are running out of options. They're now even scared to send helicoptors to pour seawater into the vessels, because the people inside would be exposed.

I saw a pretty harrowing report on the news of hospital patients stranded within the evacuation zone and doctors risking their lives to stay there with them in the fallout. But they can't obtain the medical supplies they need because everybody is too scared enter the area.

I don't believe it's a case of too scared to enter, I think people are not allowed to enter.

[GypsyGoth]

http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/2134/japansnow2.jpg

http://img541.imageshack.us/img541/5738/japansnow1.jpg

http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/1629/japansnow3.jpg

[BB_Eye]

I don't believe it's a case of too scared to enter, I think people are not allowed to enter.
Yes sorry

[Benjamin]

Yes sorry

Don't be sorry. :)

US officials have concluded that the Japanese warnings have been insufficient, and that, deliberately or not, they have understated the potential threat of what is taking place inside the nuclear facility, according to the New York Times. Gregory Jaczko, the chairman of the US Nuclear Regulatory Commission, earlier said he believed that all the water in the spent fuel pool at reactor 4 had boiled dry, leaving fuel rods stored there exposed. "We believe that radiation levels are extremely high, which could possibly impact the ability to take corrective measures," he told a Congressional committee.

[arista]

They've lost control': French claim Japan is hiding full scale of nuclear disaster as TWO more reactors heat up

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1366670/Japan-earthquake-tsunami-French-claim-scale-nuclear-disaster-hidden.html#ixzz1GntXtNVV

[Benjamin]

Can somebody try and work out what this is in this ideo please. It's driving me nuts.

At about 5:33/5:34 a white speck seems to appear around the middle of the screen at the front of the water and moves really strangely above and it appears through stuff in the path of the tsunami. It also zig zags, at first I thought it was a cat, but there is no way it can be.
It may help watching it on fullscreen.

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[Josy]

Can somebody try and work out what this is in this ideo please. It's driving me nuts.

At about 5:33/5:34 a white speck seems to appear around the middle of the screen at the front of the water and moves really strangely above and it appears through stuff in the path of the tsunami. It also zig zags, at first I thought it was a cat, but there is no way it can be.
It may help watching it on fullscreen.

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I seen this video on a web site I was reading yesterday, the person that posted it was wondering the same as you, I have no clue what it is though.

I'm going to try and find it again and see if they got any replies.

[Benjamin]

I seen this video on a web site I was reading yesterday, the person that posted it was wondering the same as you, I have no clue what it is though.

I'm going to try and find it again and see if they got any replies.

Yeah I just had a look online. Nobody can seem to explain what it is?

[Novo]

Can't even see what you mean, just looked at it about 10 times then and saw nothing :joker:

[Benjamin]

Keep watching it from the time I said (on fullscreen). It'll suddenly catch your eye, it's a very small white fleck moving the opposite direction to the water and it's movement is very jumpy and sporadic (kind of like the way a fly moves).

[Benjamin]

http://i51.tinypic.com/5cw29.jpg

[Josy]

I can't find the page I was looking at the video on, I must have deleted my browsing history.

[Kerry]

Will it not be a piece of debris going with the ebb of the tide?

[Novo]

It moves like an Animal as well

[Benjamin]

Will it not be a piece of debris going with the ebb of the tide?

No because it will still be moving forwards, look at everything else. It also seems to move through stuff (that could just be my eyes) and it does sharp turns, but nothing else seems to.

It moves like an Animal as well

See that's what I thought at first, but what animal? No dog or cat moves that fast and at that distance.


LOL, people are saying it's UFO's, I don't think it is, but I'm curious to know what it is. I think the nicest answer I found was that it was the spirit of one of the victims leaving the body as they died and looking for other spirits in the wave.

[Kerry]

I've not watched it yet, was just taking a guess :)

[KG.]

I saw it as a bit of debris breaking off and going backwards into the wave, because of wind maybe? It does move quite strangely though.

[GypsyGoth]

It's probably a pokémon

[Kerry]

Tremor shakes buildings in Chilean Capital of Santiago


Thats Breaking News on Sky now. Not sure how long it's been broadcast for

[Josy]

No because it will still be moving forwards, look at everything else. It also seems to move through stuff (that could just be my eyes) and it does sharp turns, but nothing else seems to.



See that's what I thought at first, but what animal? No dog or cat moves that fast and at that distance.


LOL, people are saying it's UFO's, I don't think it is, but I'm curious to know what it is. I think the nicest answer I found was that it was the spirit of one of the victims leaving the body as they died and looking for other spirits in the wave.



Here's another vid of the tsunami with a white thing entering from the left at about 26 seconds

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[MTVN]

Here's another vid of the tsunami with a white thing entering from the left at about 26 seconds

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It's definitely a helicopter, somewhere else there was a vid zoomed in closer and in better quality and you can see the rotating blades

[MTVN]

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Make it 480p in the bottom right and go to about 43 seconds and you see it is a helicopter

[GypsyGoth]

What will happen to the nuclear reactors? How long will they keep pouring water on them, and what is next?

Also what if there is a meltdown, what will they do about it?

[Smithy]

you can hear the earthquake here: http://uk.gizmodo.com/5782628/this-is-the-actual-sound-of-the-japan-earthquake-captured-underwater

My speakers literally started jumping around at about the 1:00 mark

[Scarlett.]

Some one put together a name and shame poster
http://img41.imageshack.us/img41/229/1299926235385.jpg

God knows how they connect the tsunami to Pearl Harbour

[Shasown]

Some one put together a name and shame poster
http://img41.imageshack.us/img41/229/1299926235385.jpg

God knows how they connect the tsunami to Pearl Harbour

Just goes to show there really is no limit to some peoples' ignorance.

[Scarlett.]

This one is just dumb
http://i56.tinypic.com/5u3btg.jpg

[Benjamin]

Some one put together a name and shame poster
http://img41.imageshack.us/img41/229/1299926235385.jpg

God knows how they connect the tsunami to Pearl Harbour

Suprise, suprise most of them are ignorant Americans. :bored:

[BB_Eye]

This one is just dumb
http://i56.tinypic.com/5u3btg.jpg
Really goes to show that although stereotypes of Americans as ignorant racists might seem harsh, there is a lot of truth to it.

Check what these two revolting creatures had to say.
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[Josy]

Japan has raised the alert level at its quake-damaged nuclear plant from four to five on a seven-point international scale of atomic incidents.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-12783832

They've been getting more heavy snow there too so the rescue searches have been halted.

[Pyramid*]

Breaking news right now from Reuters ..... another 6.1 earthquake has hit Japan..... shaking buidings in Tokyo. No tsunami warnings as yet..... saying no concerns on that front.

When the hell is the poor country going to get a break? :(

[arista]

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This French man (stuck in japan) talking in English
is Swearing and he wants the truth.


He is very Uptight.



Sign Of The Times.

[Rob]

Just watching Spurs v West Ham, they did a minute silence at the beginning of the match

[Josy]

Some good news from Japan.

Workers are close to restoring power to cooling systems at a quake-hit Japanese nuclear power plant.


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-pacific-12793925

[Benjamin]

Breaking news right now from Reuters ..... another 6.1 earthquake has hit Japan..... shaking buidings in Tokyo. No tsunami warnings as yet..... saying no concerns on that front.

When the hell is the poor country going to get a break? :(

They predict another one over the 7.0 mark in the next few weeks. :sad:

[Benjamin]

1121: The Oshika peninsula in Miyagi prefecture has moved 5.3m (17.4 feet) and dropped 1.2m since the devastating March 11 quake - both records for land mass movements in Japan - government data show, according to Kyodo.

[Josy]

They predict another one over the 7.0 mark in the next few weeks. :sad:

I was reading an article somewere that said the nuclear reactors wont be able to handle another big quake.

[Shasown]

Really goes to show that although stereotypes of Americans as ignorant racists might seem harsh, there is a lot of truth to it.

Check what these two revolting creatures had to say.


Should those reactors go into meltdown and a fire occur, radio active particles would be carried high into the atmosphere. The prevailing winds in Japan are from the North West. High altitude winds cross from Asia to the US. This would mean any radio active material carried up into the atmosphere could be carried and dumped over Hawaii, and the Western US Coastline.

Would those same idiots class this as karmic payback for Hiroshima and Nagasaki?

[Benjamin]

http://i51.tinypic.com/xndrx5.jpg


http://i53.tinypic.com/1z4ijgp.jpg

[Benjamin]

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[Claymores]

I should not really tell you this but a certain member's family come from Sendai. She is a nice member and has been missing out of thoughts and respect for the dead. Can you guess who? I hope she forgives me for telling as only told me private email

[Ninastar]

I hope its not who I think it is :sad:

[Kerry]

I can guess who :( Love to her :hug:

[Smithy]

omg, she's such a nice woman :sad:

[MTVN]

I should not really tell you this but a certain member's family come from Sendai. She is a nice member and has been missing out of thoughts and respect for the dead. Can you guess who? I hope she forgives me for telling as only told me private email

Aww I think I know who you mean, hope she's alright :(

[Claymores]

I hope its not who I think it is :sad:

She is a very private person, so I hope I have not broken confidences - I KNEW people would wish to huggle as she is a friend

[GypsyGoth]

:sad:

[InOne]

Cant believe were putting out efforts into Libya when these are the ones we should be helping

[Niamh.]

She is a very private person, so I hope I have not broken confidences - I KNEW people would wish to huggle as she is a friend

awww, that's terrible Ian, send her our love:hugesmile:

[Twilight]

Idk who you are talking about :/

[Claymores]

Idk who you are talking about :/

sooty - she will be angry of me for tellin you all, but I believe the people here would wish to send to her and her family our regards and positive thoughts.

[Twilight]

sooty - she will be angry of me for tellin you all, but I believe the people here would wish to send to her and her family our regards and positive thoughts.

Oh dear, my thoughts with her.

[Claymores]

I will tell sooty all the loverly messages she has received via Claymores - lets hope she is back soon as a TIBBer.

[MTVN]

Cant believe were putting out efforts into Libya when these are the ones we should be helping

I think the Japanese are actually quite well equipped to handle this though, economically anyway

[Pyramid*]

sooty - she will be angry of me for tellin you all, but I believe the people here would wish to send to her and her family our regards and positive thoughts.

If this is the Sooty I'm thinking of (puts up lots of pics in the random pics thread) - heartfelt thoughts for her and her family Claymores. She must be worried sick. :(

[Pyramid*]

I think the Japanese are actually quite well equipped to handle this though, economically anyway

It's not just about money MTVN - and I have to say, that reads to me very much along the lines of, "Ach they've got plenty of money, they can afford to deal with this" which is pretty heartless I have to say. It might not be what you meant, but that's they way it comes across.

It's about resources of all nature, equipment, expertise in rescuing people, trying to get to stricken areas, providing and getting food, heat, clothing to those stuck in god knows what areas - people are still being found 10 days on - as are animals, pets etc. It's about providing shelters, counselling and a myriad of other things that 'economically' just doesn't cut it.

One of the most heart rendering things I read last week was them asking countries to send coffins and body bags as they simply didn't have enough. that really got the message home to me how awful this is.

Then at the other end of things: is this scenario:- not remotely in the same realm, but sad all the same:-

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1368129/Japanese-tsunami-Video-shows-dog-protected-friend-surviving.html

for any animal lover - it's a sad clip nevertheless.

[MTVN]

It's not just about money MTVN - and I have to say, that reads to me very much along the lines of, "Ach they've got plenty of money, they can afford to deal with this" which is pretty heartless I have to say. It might not be what you meant, but that's they way it comes across.

It's about resources of all nature, equipment, expertise in rescuing people, trying to get to stricken areas, providing and getting food, heat, clothing to those stuck in god knows what areas - people are still being found 10 days on - as are animals, pets etc. It's about providing shelters, counselling and a myriad of other things that 'economically' just doesn't cut it.

One of the most heart rendering things I read last week was them asking countries to send coffins and body bags as they simply didn't have enough. that really got the message home to me how awful this is.

That's not what I was saying. My post was in reply to a comment that we shouldnt be helping Libya, we should be helping Japan, and personally I question the need for extensive government assistance and intervention on our part. Partly because the Japanese economic state, the Yen has actually improved since the crisis and they have a lot of reserves thanks to having a large trade surplus year in year out and partly because I think charities are an effective way of supplying aid to Japan

[Pyramid*]

That's not what I was saying. My post was in reply to a comment that we shouldnt be helping Libya, we should be helping Japan, and personally I question the need for extensive government assistance and intervention on our part. Partly because the Japanese economic state, the Yen has actually improved since the crisis and they have a lot of reserves thanks to having a large trade surplus year in year out and partly because I think charities are an effective way of supplying aid to Japan

I understand exactly what you were replying to: and it still came across as a bit cold hearted - but as I also said, you may not have meant it like that - it simply seemed to come across that way. I have to say, I'm pretty much still of that opinion having read what you've had to say here in the post above.

That's your opinion and I respect it, I don't however, agree with it.

[MTVN]

I understand exactly what you were replying to: and it still came across as a bit cold hearted - but as I also said, you may not have meant it like that - it simply seemed to come across that way. I have to say, I'm pretty much still of that opinion having read what you've had to say here in the post above.

That's your opinion and I respect it, I don't however, agree with it.

But I am not saying we should just ignore them; far from it, and I resent being told I'm cold-hearted. I never said we shouldnt assist Japan, we have done and I am glad we did, we have fulfilled the request from the Japanese government and more, but we havent had to assist as much as we did in the 2004 tsunami, or at Haiti, because they were less equipped to deal with the situation. That's all I was trying to say.

[Pyramid*]

But I am not saying we should just ignore them; far from it, and I resent being told I'm cold-hearted. I never said we shouldnt assist Japan, we have done and I am glad we did, we have fulfilled the request from the Japanese government and more, but we havent had to assist as much as we did in the 2004 tsunami, or at Haiti, because they were less equipped to deal with the situation. That's all I was trying to say.

No need for you to be resentful. You stated that Japan are economically well equiped to deal with this type of disaster, partly because the Yen has strengthened, that they have reserves at their disposal and partly that Charities are an effective way of supplying aid. I said that came across as a bit cold hearted - I didn't say it was a fact - it was my opinion which is something that is that, an opinion, and subjective only.

I can only comment on what you type and form an opinion on what you write.

[Scarlett.]

sooty - she will be angry of me for tellin you all, but I believe the people here would wish to send to her and her family our regards and positive thoughts.

Tell her I'm thinking about her and her family :(

[Claymores]

If this is the Sooty I'm thinking of (puts up lots of pics in the random pics thread) - heartfelt thoughts for her and her family Claymores. She must be worried sick. :(

It is that sooty - I could say more, but suffice to say that her family (sisters) are safe so far. It is unfair of me to have mentioned it as she is a private person who would never talk of the disaster on the forum. On the other hand, I was certain that other FMs would wish to say their positive thoughts to a nice person and express their feelings at the home-city folks who lost their lives - come back please soots!

[Pyramid*]

It is that sooty - I could say more, but suffice to say that her family (sisters) are safe so far. It is unfair of me to have mentioned it as she is a private person who would never talk of the disaster on the forum. On the other hand, I was certain that other FMs would wish to say their positive thoughts to a nice person and express their feelings at the home-city folks who lost their lives - come back please soots!

TBH claymores: I think it says much (to the good) - I know if it were me, I'd be touched by the kindness and acknowledgment of troubled times I was going through. I am quite sure that she knows fine well your heart is in the right place.

[Smithy]

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[Smithy]

BREAKING: Magnitude 6.5 earthquake rattles eastern Japan again; tsunami alert issued #japan #earthquake

[Lee.]

Jesus Christ! :(

[Kerry]

:(

[Benjamin]

Another!

[MTVN]

No reports of injuries or damages and it's only a small tsunami warning, about a half meter size apparently so hopefully this wont be too bad

[Benjamin]

No reports of injuries or damages and it's only a small tsunami warning, about a half meter size apparently so hopefully this wont be too bad

Could still do some damage, half a meter may not seem like a lot, but think of the volume of water behind it.

[Josy]

A new leak has been found outside the reactor buildings.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-pacific-12881015

[Pyramid*]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1371375/Japan-nuclear-suicide-squads-paid-huge-amounts-claims-battle-lost.html

Contract Workers being paid £760 per day to work at plant.......and understandably, some are blatantly refusing.

No one is ever going to convince me that there aren't going to be ramifications in the future - it might take years for the full effect of the amount of radiation leakage to show, but I am convinced that all is 'not as well' as TEPCO are making out.

Let's see a generation down the line - birth defects, higher rates of cancer within adults etc....... I'm absolutely convinced this is worse than officials are letting on. :(

[Lee.]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1371375/Japan-nuclear-suicide-squads-paid-huge-amounts-claims-battle-lost.html

Contract Workers being paid £760 per day to work at plant.......and understandably, some are blatantly refusing.

No one is ever going to convince me that there aren't going to be ramifications in the future - it might take years for the full effect of the amount of radiation leakage to show, but I am convinced that all is 'not as well' as TEPCO are making out.

Let's see a generation down the line - birth defects, higher rates of cancer within adults etc....... I'm absolutely convinced this is worse than officials are letting on. :(

I agree Pyramid..

There has been traces of radiation from this found in Glasgow too! :shocked:

[Pyramid*]

I agree Pyramid..

There has been traces of radiation from this found in Glasgow too! :shocked:

Yeah, (in Oxfordshire as well).... I read that - the only question I have is : what distinquishes radiation from 'Japan' - from radiation from other nearby nuclear plants etc...... how do they know it's from Japan?? :conf: A nuclear scientist or expert I'm not, so I couldn't quite figure that one out?

[Lee.]

Dunno really.. It was detected by air detectors so I'm assuming that there hasn't been any in the air for a long time, they were perhaps expecting some a certain amount of time after the Japan thing, then it turned up?

Does that make sense??

[Pyramid*]

Dunno really.. It was detected by air detectors so I'm assuming that there hasn't been any in the air for a long time, they were perhaps expecting some a certain amount of time after the Japan thing, then it turned up?

Does that make sense??

Perfectly!!! clearly I wasn't putting too much thought into it !!!:blush2:

[James]

I agree Pyramid..

There has been traces of radiation from this found in Glasgow too! :shocked:

It is very low levels that were found. Lower than naturally occurring background radiation.


Analysis
Richard Warry
BBC News

The level of radioactive iodine-131 found in air samples in Oxfordshire poses no risk to human health.

The measured level - 300 micro-becquerels per cubic metre - is much less than the natural background radiation dose to which a person in the UK is likely to be exposed in normal circumstances.

At that level, a child's exposure in one day would be less than one 10,000th of what they would receive from naturally-occurring background radiation in a day.

Radioactive iodine can collect in the thyroid gland, which controls the body's rate of growth and cell division.

At levels many, many times higher than those detected in the UK, radioactive iodine can trigger cancer - children are most at risk.

Cases of thyroid cancer among the young increased following the Chernobyl disaster in the 1980s - but only among people living close to the stricken nuclear plant.


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-12892383

[Iceman]

Just on the news channels there

[Vicky.]

Oh god :(

[Judas]

Again :O

[Ramsay]

fucccck

[Jordan.]

Not again :sad:

[Benjamin]

:shocked:

[Iceman]

the plates just wont stabalise

[Josy]

Just heard that a second one just hit is that right :conf:

[Iceman]

Not sure all people told to get to higher ground conflicting reports saying 2 metre wave, some say 1 metre, some say it wont be felt, they aren't taking any chances which is a good thing

[Iceman]

tsunami could hit in the next few minutes according to Sky News

[Josy]

http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/recenteqsww/Quakes/quakes_big.php

2 different ones according to the usgs website.

[Ramsay]

**** sake poor guys cant get a break :(

[Josy]

**** sake poor guys cant get a break :(

I know :sad: I feel so sorry for them.

[Iceman]

No immediate affect to Nuclear plant.

[Benjamin]

It could be up to 6ft high the wave.

[Iceman]

just reading that website you linked Josy, look at the location it's been slowly building, the first one was a 5.0 and it's gradually risen.

[Lee.]

It could be up to 6ft high the wave.

That's a big wave!

[Vicky.]

http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/recenteqsww/Quakes/quakes_big.php

2 different ones according to the usgs website.

D:

Accoridng to that theyve been having quakes everyday too.

two 7.4s straight after each other cant be good :/

[arista]

the plates just wont stabalise


Yes
And so much Products only come
from Japan.


This is bad for the Nuke zone

[Ramsay]

really makes me feel bad for taking ireland for granted
yeah it rains all the time but man..they got it bad :(

[BigBrotherfan4ever]

This is just awful.

[Vicky.]

Just turned sky news on, the aftershocks look quite bad too :/

[Iceman]

Yes
And so much Products only come
from Japan.


This is bad for the Nuke zone

yeah very true Arista, most of the MotoGP bike components are from Japan near Sendai, they have enough for half the season. I know it's nothing in comparison to what happened to the people but it shows the knock on that it has to other things realating to Japan.

[Iceman]

Just turned sky news on, the aftershocks look quite bad too :/

Yeah the buildings shaking mental

[Benjamin]

Yeah the buildings shaking mental

And that was in Tokyo, 215 miles away from it.

[Iceman]

That website has just one 7.4 quake now, beause it was at the same time just recorded on different parts of the plate.

[Vicky.]

Is it night time there? Looks dark D:

[Iceman]

And that was in Tokyo, 215 miles away from it.

I know imagine what it was like loser to it :O

[Iceman]

Is it night time there? Looks dark D:

yeah it would be

[Benjamin]

Is it night time there? Looks dark D:

Yeah it happened about 11:30 at night.

[Iceman]

Been downgraded to 7.1

[Scarlett.]

According to the BBC the tsunami warning has been lifted

[Benjamin]

Just wondering if there is any news on the reconstruction of Sendai and the other places effected.

[Benjamin]

Just realised this was a year ago, 3 days ago. I wonder what these areas are like now.

[Scarlett.]

Most of the areas lay barren now, 90% of the debris is gone

[Benjamin]

Any pics? I could search myself but I'm being lazy today.

[Scarlett.]

I found this pic, this time difference in these pictures is six days
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2011/03/23/article-1369307-0B4B564300000578-813_634x950.jpg


These are the best pics I could find, dated July 2011
https://www.e-education.psu.edu/drupal6/files/geog588/image/GossJapan3.jpg
https://www.e-education.psu.edu/drupal6/files/geog588/image/GossJapan4.jpg

[Benjamin]

I forgot how destructive the earthquake and tsunami were. Thanks by the way.

[Scarlett.]

Luckily the tsunami/quake didn't hit Tokyo, still it was a horrible event

[Benjamin]

I never saw this footage from the tsunami. Interesting to see the perspective of those trapped in their cars and vehicles.

Sp2DP1cLXKM

[Benjamin]

A 7.3-magnitude quake has struck off Japan's eastern coast, triggering a small tsunami and sparking evacuations.

A one-metre wave hit Ishinomaki in Miyagi Prefecture and many people heeded calls to move to higher ground before all alerts were later lifted.

The quake epicentre was about 245km (150 miles) south-east of Kamiashi at a depth of about 36km, the US Geological Survey (USGS) said.

Miyagi was hit by a devastating earthquake and tsunami in March 2011.
Swaying violently

The US-based Pacific Tsunami Warning Center had said there was no threat to the wider Pacific Ocean but had warned a local tsunami could be destructive for local coastlines.

A 7.3-magnitude earthquake is not a small event. Even in Tokyo, the buildings shook violently, creaking as they swayed back and forth.

But the epicentre was more than 250km offshore, and Japan's cities are engineered to withstand earthquakes, probably better than anywhere else in the world.

So the biggest danger was from another tsunami. And initially it looked like one might be coming. Tsunami alarms went off along the north-east coast. Radio broadcasts on the national NHK station told people on the coast to leave their homes immediately.

In the end, when the tsunami came ashore, it was small and didn't do any significant damage. But since the 2011 Tohoku earthquake, everybody is a lot more jittery about any suggestion of a tsunami.

There have been no reports of deaths, injuries or serious damage, and all tsunami warnings were cancelled at 19:20 local time (10:20 GMT), broadcaster NHK said.

Warnings of the tsunami height had varied between 50cm and 2m.

The BBC's Rupert Wingfield-Hayes in Tokyo says any such height would represent a far lower risk of devastation than the tsunami of up to 11 metres that struck in 2011 but that, since then, the country has clearly become jittery about any shaking of the earth.

The tsunami warnings had extended from the top of the main island of Honshu down towards Tokyo and evacuations were ordered from some of the affected areas.

With Japan's early warning system, NHK was able to break off its regular programming and issue an alert about the earthquake shortly before it struck.

A presenter on state broadcaster NHK then told viewers: "Remember last year's quake and tsunami. Call on your neighbours and flee to higher ground now!"


Prime Minister Yoshihiko Noda cancelled campaigning for the 16 December election to return to his office.

Communications to Miyagi have proven difficult, with the high volume of telephone calls. Trains in the prefecture were halted and the runway at Sendai airport closed.

English teacher John Heritage, who is in Tagajo in Miyagi Prefecture, told the BBC the earthquake was not as powerful as some he had experienced but was worrying as it went on so long.

He said: "The students were kind of worried. Normally they're pretty calm, but they looked concerned. Then the tsunami alarm started going off and we evacuated to higher ground."

Jamie El-Banna, founder of It's Not Just Mud - a volunteer disaster relief organisation - said he joined the evacuation in Ishinomaki.

Friday's earthquake has been a showcase for Japan's early warning system, first tested in 2004. Many on the ground say they received warning alerts on their mobile phones tens of seconds before the earthquake hit.

Japan's network of seismometers detects the arrival of one of two types of quake waves - the faster-moving but much less damaging "P waves". That surely allows precious seconds to seek shelter but in reality it is only detecting a quake, not predicting one.

The science behind longer-term predictions - hours, days or weeks in advance - is the subject of intense research. This ranges from using satellites to detect tiny deformations of the Earth's surface through purely mathematical approaches to harnessing animals' purported ability to sense coming quakes. But scientists are still some way from making reliable predictions - and avoiding the damaging risk of false alarms.

He told the BBC: "We live less than a kilometre from the water so we went calmly as far back from the water as possible, which is what the advice is if you can't get to higher ground. Everyone evacuated in a calm, orderly way."

Other people reported being alerted to the earthquake prior to its arrival by Japan's mobile phone-based warning system.

One tweeted that he was given 10 seconds and was able to slow his car before the shaking struck.

The USGS reported at least six aftershocks, the strongest of which was 6.2 in magnitude.

The 9.0 magnitude quake that struck on 11 March 2011 caused a devastating tsunami and left more than 15,000 people dead, with more than 3,200 missing.

That quake triggered a meltdown of fuel rods at the Fukushima nuclear plant, causing radiation leaks and mass evacuations.

The plant's operator, Tokyo Electric Power, told Agence France-Presse there were no reports of problems there this time, although workers had moved to higher ground.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-20638696

[Benjamin]

A 7.3-magnitude quake has struck off Japan's eastern coast, triggering a small tsunami and sparking evacuations.

A one-metre wave hit Ishinomaki in Miyagi Prefecture and many people heeded calls to move to higher ground before all alerts were later lifted.

The quake epicentre was about 245km (150 miles) south-east of Kamiashi at a depth of about 36km, the US Geological Survey (USGS) said.

Miyagi was hit by a devastating earthquake and tsunami in March 2011.
Swaying violently

The US-based Pacific Tsunami Warning Center had said there was no threat to the wider Pacific Ocean but had warned a local tsunami could be destructive for local coastlines.

A 7.3-magnitude earthquake is not a small event. Even in Tokyo, the buildings shook violently, creaking as they swayed back and forth.

But the epicentre was more than 250km offshore, and Japan's cities are engineered to withstand earthquakes, probably better than anywhere else in the world.

So the biggest danger was from another tsunami. And initially it looked like one might be coming. Tsunami alarms went off along the north-east coast. Radio broadcasts on the national NHK station told people on the coast to leave their homes immediately.

In the end, when the tsunami came ashore, it was small and didn't do any significant damage. But since the 2011 Tohoku earthquake, everybody is a lot more jittery about any suggestion of a tsunami.

There have been no reports of deaths, injuries or serious damage, and all tsunami warnings were cancelled at 19:20 local time (10:20 GMT), broadcaster NHK said.

Warnings of the tsunami height had varied between 50cm and 2m.

The BBC's Rupert Wingfield-Hayes in Tokyo says any such height would represent a far lower risk of devastation than the tsunami of up to 11 metres that struck in 2011 but that, since then, the country has clearly become jittery about any shaking of the earth.

The tsunami warnings had extended from the top of the main island of Honshu down towards Tokyo and evacuations were ordered from some of the affected areas.

With Japan's early warning system, NHK was able to break off its regular programming and issue an alert about the earthquake shortly before it struck.

A presenter on state broadcaster NHK then told viewers: "Remember last year's quake and tsunami. Call on your neighbours and flee to higher ground now!"


Prime Minister Yoshihiko Noda cancelled campaigning for the 16 December election to return to his office.

Communications to Miyagi have proven difficult, with the high volume of telephone calls. Trains in the prefecture were halted and the runway at Sendai airport closed.

English teacher John Heritage, who is in Tagajo in Miyagi Prefecture, told the BBC the earthquake was not as powerful as some he had experienced but was worrying as it went on so long.

He said: "The students were kind of worried. Normally they're pretty calm, but they looked concerned. Then the tsunami alarm started going off and we evacuated to higher ground."

Jamie El-Banna, founder of It's Not Just Mud - a volunteer disaster relief organisation - said he joined the evacuation in Ishinomaki.

Friday's earthquake has been a showcase for Japan's early warning system, first tested in 2004. Many on the ground say they received warning alerts on their mobile phones tens of seconds before the earthquake hit.

Japan's network of seismometers detects the arrival of one of two types of quake waves - the faster-moving but much less damaging "P waves". That surely allows precious seconds to seek shelter but in reality it is only detecting a quake, not predicting one.

The science behind longer-term predictions - hours, days or weeks in advance - is the subject of intense research. This ranges from using satellites to detect tiny deformations of the Earth's surface through purely mathematical approaches to harnessing animals' purported ability to sense coming quakes. But scientists are still some way from making reliable predictions - and avoiding the damaging risk of false alarms.

He told the BBC: "We live less than a kilometre from the water so we went calmly as far back from the water as possible, which is what the advice is if you can't get to higher ground. Everyone evacuated in a calm, orderly way."

Other people reported being alerted to the earthquake prior to its arrival by Japan's mobile phone-based warning system.

One tweeted that he was given 10 seconds and was able to slow his car before the shaking struck.

The USGS reported at least six aftershocks, the strongest of which was 6.2 in magnitude.

The 9.0 magnitude quake that struck on 11 March 2011 caused a devastating tsunami and left more than 15,000 people dead, with more than 3,200 missing.

That quake triggered a meltdown of fuel rods at the Fukushima nuclear plant, causing radiation leaks and mass evacuations.

The plant's operator, Tokyo Electric Power, told Agence France-Presse there were no reports of problems there this time, although workers had moved to higher ground.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-20638696

[Kizzy]

They did say the pacific plate would shift again at the time, did you feel the 6.3 they had last fri in Tokoroa NZ ben?

[Benjamin]

Wow, it's been 3 years since this.