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Zippy
06-04-2011, 09:24 PM
who buys or sells on ebay? Ive only bought a few "buy now" items in the past. Today I tried to bid on something for the first time(some Diesel trainers) but lost out. I don't really know how best to play it when bidding.

Now I actually want to sell something. But it seems the fees are quite high these days and Im not sure whether to bother.

Does anybody buy/sell on ebay?

Rob
06-04-2011, 09:25 PM
i've bought, best to go for the buy it now products

Patrick
06-04-2011, 09:31 PM
I don't sell, the bastards take 2 Quid of you just to put something on their stupid site.

I bought a Pendulum Poster the other day though.

Patrick
06-04-2011, 09:31 PM
I don't sell, the bastards take 2 Quid of you just to put something on their stupid site.

I bought a Pendulum Poster the other day though.

Zippy
06-04-2011, 09:34 PM
I bought a Pendulum Poster the other day though.

I assume you didnt have to bid for that?

I need bidding tips, guy.

Claymores
06-04-2011, 09:56 PM
My eBay score is 3581 (gathered since 2001) and 100% positive. Just avoid idiots whether buying or selling.

Join something called "Goofbay" for free (part of their original reason for being was to pick on numpty sellers who could not spell so you could get a geniune 'Soney' item for peanuts, hence the goof in the name).

Now it is just used as a free SNIPER - a sniper application is one where you decide the maximum you would pay for any given item, then tell the siper and it puts in your maximum bid 2 seconds before auction close. You either win or you don't. Maybe someone else had put in a higher bid days before.

Sometimes you get items for 50% less than you would have gone up to, sometimes you don't - with 2 seconds, nobody else has time to respond and you don't have time to talk yourself into bidding higher than you originally wished to.

Rob
06-04-2011, 09:57 PM
i prefer Amazon :)

Claymores
06-04-2011, 10:00 PM
I assume you didnt have to bid for that?

I need bidding tips, guy.

Goofbay - it's got a free sniper you just associate with your account

http://www.goofbay.com/

Zippy
06-04-2011, 10:05 PM
Goofbay - it's got a free sniper you just associate with your account

http://www.goofbay.com/

what about waiting until the last minute and bidding? Thats what I did today but somebody got in seconds later. I was damn annoyed.

anyways Ive just seen some perfect for me brand new trainers on ebay that are buy now. So I may not have to bid for trainers now.

but if I knew about bidding I could do some damage on that site. :evilgrin:

Iceman
06-04-2011, 10:06 PM
Bought some stuff, might sell some stuff on it but not sure if I'm bothered about the hassle

Patrick
06-04-2011, 10:06 PM
I assume you didnt have to bid for that?

I need bidding tips, guy.

Oh I did.

I ended up spending 9 Quid on it, I had put down 6 Quid and watched it and in the final few minutes some wanker put down 7 Quid and I put another 2 Pound down and got it.

Winning.

Patrick
06-04-2011, 10:07 PM
What ever happened to craigslist?
That was the free alternative to eBay.

i prefer Amazon :)

They're racist bastards to the UK.

Locke.
06-04-2011, 10:08 PM
They are horrible robbing bastards and charge you a selling fee at the end of the month you sell something as well as the money you pay to put your item up for sale.

Stacey.
06-04-2011, 10:08 PM
Scott does :evilgrin:

Claymores
06-04-2011, 10:15 PM
what about waiting until the last minute and bidding? Thats what I did today but somebody got in seconds later. I was damn annoyed.

anyways Ive just seen some perfect for me brand new trainers on ebay that are buy now. So I may not have to bid for trainers now.

but if I knew about bidding I could do some damage on that site. :evilgrin:

If someone went in higher, that just means they sniped you because they were willing to pay more as a maximum than you.

You sound silly zipster. The other tactic is to have 2 accounts. Say, for example there is a pair of nice trainers that you realise will sell £40-£60 in 10 days on auction close - but they've opened @ 99p which attract lots of novices to watch (or to bid £5.55). That puts them on their "My eBay" and desiring to win.

Use one account to bid £25 early , then switch to the other to bid £28. That puts the price to £26 and few of the low scorers will pay any regard to that auction as they're excited of another auction which is sitting at £2.70 (nowhere near the end price). You've reduced the bidding pool!

Zippy
06-04-2011, 10:17 PM
Scott does :evilgrin:

used buttplugs probably

Claymores
06-04-2011, 10:18 PM
Scott does :evilgrin:

Urrrgggghhhhh Stace - squaddie's smelly trainers - UUUUURRRRGGGHHHHH - I almost puked when he started showing those auctions.

Bad girl for reminding me of that :nono:

Claymores
06-04-2011, 10:22 PM
They are horrible robbing bastards and charge you a selling fee at the end of the month you sell something as well as the money you pay to put your item up for sale.

And don't start me on Betfair who can sit on my finger for the "Premium Charge" they're trying to rip off me for gambling successfully. Take me to court if you want Betunfair.

Zippy
06-04-2011, 10:23 PM
If someone went in higher, that just means they sniped you because they were willing to pay more as a maximum than you.

You sound silly zipster. The other tactic is to have 2 accounts. Say, for example there is a pair of nice trainers that you realise will sell £40-£60 in 10 days on auction close - but they've opened @ 99p which attract lots of novices to watch (or to bid £5.55). That puts them on their "My eBay" and desiring to win.

Use one account to bid £25 early , then switch to the other to bid £28. That puts the price to £26 and few of the low scorers will pay any regard to that auction as they're excited of another auction which is sitting at £2.70 (nowhere near the end price). You've reduced the bidding pool!

I can't be going through all that drama for a pair of trainers. I need some asap.

But I may use those sneaky tactics for other stuff. :evilgrin:

are you allowed to have 2 accounts? don't they have strict rules about these cheeky tactics? I dont wanna go to prison and get raped. :)

Claymores
06-04-2011, 10:32 PM
I can't be going through all that drama for a pair of trainers. I need some asap.

But I may use those sneaky tactics for other stuff. :evilgrin:

are you allowed to have 2 accounts? don't they have strict rules about these cheeky tactics? I dont wanna go to prison and get raped. :)

You already get virtual raped here Zips!

Seriously - my above advice is good - particularly the Goofbay sniper. I got into it as was buying a lot of American Football tops from USA (my passion) and a lot ended 05.31 or so. I didn't want to be sitting with baited breath @ 05.30 waiting to put my last-second bid in!

2 accounts is no problem so long as you are not "shill-bidding". This means being a seller on one account and using the other as a 'buyer' to pump-up the price on an auction.

Shasown
06-04-2011, 10:37 PM
I can't be going through all that drama for a pair of trainers. I need some asap.

But I may use those sneaky tactics for other stuff. :evilgrin:

are you allowed to have 2 accounts? don't they have strict rules about these cheeky tactics? I dont wanna go to prison and get raped. :)

If you already have an account with ebay and want to sell go through the motions of validating bank accounts and addresses. If you dont mind waiting, do just that, wait and every now and again they send you free posting days and weekends etc.

You arent supposed to have multiple accounts but if you use a different email addy and bank account they will never know.

As for buying something quickly if your hearts set on something on ebay and it doesnt have similar available on buy it now, as Claymores said you are better off using a sniper/bidding program to get it. They increase your chances a lot.

Top tip though if you do get done for anything and need to appear in court always always always wear a soap on a rope under your clothes, you never know it could save your ass.

Claymores
06-04-2011, 10:48 PM
If you already have an account with ebay and want to sell go through the motions of validating bank accounts and addresses. If you dont mind waiting, do just that, wait and every now and again they send you free posting days and weekends etc.

You arent supposed to have multiple accounts but if you use a different email addy and bank account they will never know.

As for buying something quickly if your hearts set on something on ebay and it doesnt have similar available on buy it now, as Claymores said you are better off using a sniper/bidding program to get it. They increase your chances a lot.

Top tip though if you do get done for anything and need to appear in court always always always wear a soap on a rope under your clothes, you never know it could save your ass.

LOL Shas!

As far as I know Tel (and been doing it for 10 years) having multiple accounts is not against the rules - both of mine are directly linked to my REAL PayPal account. I've never used them to shill bid to punt the price on one of my auctions. Logically if I bid as myself as a buyer, and against myself as the other bidder, it might be an Ian tactic, but only potentially costing myself more money.

When I need to shill or a friend does when acting as a seller, I get a friend to do it via a quiet email and vice-versa.

My mate had a rare bottle of whisky sitting @ £100 with 1 hour to go when it was worth at least £200. I just bid £290 for him. If I'd won, we'd just have forgotten about it, but my shill for him pushed it into a bidding frenzy between 2 genuine punters so it reached £460

Shasown
06-04-2011, 10:54 PM
LOL Shas!

As far as I know Tel (and been doing it for 10 years) having multiple accounts is not against the rules - both of mine are directly linked to my REAL PayPal account. I've never used them to shill bid to punt the price on one of my auctions. Logically if I bid as myself as a buyer, and against myself as the other bidder, it might be an Ian tactic, but only potentially costing myself more money.

When I need to shill or a friend does when acting as a seller, I get a friend to do it via a quiet email and vice-versa.

My mate had a rare bottle of whisky sitting @ £100 with 1 hour to go when it was worth at least £200. I just bid £290 for him. If I'd won, we'd just have forgotten about it, but my shill for him pushed it into a bidding frenzy between 2 genuine punters so it reached £460

Yeah your right, its only if you default on one, whatever action they take against you applies to all accounts. So if they ban you on one account without realising you have more, you are supposed to respect the ban etc.

Happened to a mate of mine who sold (still sells) fake autographed prints on ebay.

Zippy
06-04-2011, 11:01 PM
If I want to sell something for £20 with £3 p&p...

what would my selling fees be about? You have paypal fees too, right? And do you have to pay the fees even if you don't sell?

and can you sell porn on ebay? I have a friend(cough) who may have a couple of dvd films to sell. :)

Claymores
06-04-2011, 11:10 PM
If I want to sell something for £20 with £3 p&p...

what would my selling fees be about? You have paypal fees too, right? And do you have to pay the fees even if you don't sell?

and can you sell porn on ebay? I have a friend(cough) who may have a couple of dvd films to sell. :)

Don't be lazy - listing and final valuation fees are clearly listed on eBay's site!

Yeah sure zips - eBay is a good way to rid yourself of those child porn movies and automatic assault rifles that are sitting in your 'friend's' cupboard. Doh! Thank got my AK47 went to that high bidder from Afghanistan - phew - got away with that.

Don't be silly :)

Zippy
06-04-2011, 11:16 PM
Don't be lazy - listing and final valuation fees are clearly listed on eBay's site!

Yeah sure zips - eBay is a good way to rid yourself of those dodgy child porn movies and automatic assault rifles that are sitting in the cupboard. Doh! Thank got my AK47 went to that high bidder from Afghanistan - phew - got away with that.

it doesnt tell you exactly what the fees are. If you don't know just say so!

and is that a no about porn?

Claymores
06-04-2011, 11:25 PM
it doesnt tell you exactly what the fees are. If you don't know just say so!

and is that a no about porn?

Doh! -

http://pages.ebay.co.uk/help/sell/fees.html#fees

http://pages.ebay.co.uk/help/policies/items-ov.html

have you been on the loopy juice tonight wee pal?

Zippy
06-04-2011, 11:36 PM
Doh! -

http://pages.ebay.co.uk/help/sell/fees.html#fees

http://pages.ebay.co.uk/help/policies/items-ov.html

have you been on the loopy juice tonight wee pal?

Well the good thing about forums is you can just ask simple questions and get straight answers without researching. In theory anyways!

Claymores
06-04-2011, 11:39 PM
Well the good thing about forums is you can just ask simple questions and get straight answers without researching. In theory anyways!

Nae probs wee pal - glad I pointed you in the correct direction on both your selling and bidding questions. As I said, my current score is 3581 so I should be able to pick the links faster than you wasting time having to search :thumbs:

billy123
07-04-2011, 12:06 AM
They are horrible robbing bastards and charge you a selling fee at the end of the month you sell something as well as the money you pay to put your item up for sale.
What you mean like every single auction house does the bastards how dare they :spin: the cheek of it not doing it for free :hugesmile:

Theres a living to be made on ebay if you learn about drop shipping and can find some decent suppliers.

Zippy
07-04-2011, 12:09 AM
drop shipping

whats this?

billy123
07-04-2011, 12:21 AM
whats this?Its where you find a cheap price for lets say a tv for £400 and you list one on ebay for say £600 and when someone buys it from you buy one for £400 and get them to deliver it to your buyer on ebay. It leaves you £200(minus fees) better of for next to no work.

Just got to be sure your supplier is reliable you can make a fortune doing this :)

Claymores
07-04-2011, 12:21 AM
whats this?

essentially you find some poor Chinese sweat shop that would supply anyone things cheap (like your trainers) for say $5. Then you appear to sell them as a trustworthy European (or American) trader for 50 Euros but still only kick-back $5 to the sweat shop when you get them to do the supply. You do 0 really!

Claymores
07-04-2011, 12:22 AM
Its where you find a cheap price for lets say a tv for £400 and you list one on ebay for say £600 and when someone buys it from you buy one for £400 and get them to deliver it to your buyer on ebay. It leaves you £200(minus fees) better of for next to no work.

Just got to be sure your supplier is reliable you can make a fortune doing this :)

Beat me to it - but my description is more evocative!

billy123
07-04-2011, 12:23 AM
Beat me to it - but my description is more evocative!he he your version makes it sound evil! :hugesmile:

Zippy
07-04-2011, 01:37 AM
oh that sounds right up my street. Not having any morals.

but why would they not be on ebay themselves selling? ebays hardly a secret.

Claymores
07-04-2011, 01:47 AM
oh that sounds right up my street. Not having any morals.

but why would they not be on ebay themselves selling? ebays hardly a secret.

Who wants to buy $100 trainers for $5 from some unknown Chinese sweat-shop or their holding warehouse (who probably cannot market themselves properly to foreign markets)?! You'd probably trust me more cos I could produce a flashy website and offer you a super bargain for 50 Euros. It's just the way of the world and exploitation unfortunately.

Some are good at producing or wholesaling, and some at selling - I was painting the scenario in the darkest of back & whites anyway. The $5 end are probably happy with the increased sales in my notional scenario.

Zippy
07-04-2011, 01:59 AM
Im looking for a new remote control for my dvd/hdd recorder. Its fcked and I cant even use it without a remote control! I have 250gb worth of TV shows/films on it to watch.

do you always have to wait until the bidding date is over? I cba waiting 5 days to see if I get it. Can you make an offer?

Claymores
07-04-2011, 07:27 AM
Im looking for a new remote control for my dvd/hdd recorder. Its fcked and I cant even use it without a remote control! I have 250gb worth of TV shows/films on it to watch.

do you always have to wait until the bidding date is over? I cba waiting 5 days to see if I get it. Can you make an offer?

You could message the seller and ask if they'd consider ending the auction now if you gave them £x amount. The worst that could happen is that they say "no" !!!

Alternatively, google for a website that kinda specialise in selling replacement remotes! I got one for my cable cheat box cheaper than they used to go on eBay auctions! It's worth a search

Zippy
10-04-2011, 06:32 PM
LOL just won some white Kswiss trainers for £2.50! The postage is even more than that at £3.50.

Change the laces and theyll look almost new.