Tipping in bars and restaurants

[Pyramid*]

Prompted by this article this morning: I had to laugh because I do have friend from both Yorkshire and Leeds: and they very rarely tip here, but oddly - they do when we are abroad on vacations.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2019655/Best-worst-tippers-United-Kingdom.html

Having done 2nd (and 3rd) jobs in the past, from bar work to cocktail waitressing: and knowing that tips do form a large part of 'your wages', I do tend to tip, and tip well if the service is good.

Are you a generous tipper or are you a meanie?

[Vicky.]

I will only tip if the service is good.

I despise places where a tip is compulsory and added onto your bill :bored:

[nicole_burks]

Here in the US, some restaurants if you have a party of more than five will automatically add it on to your bill.

But yeah Vicky, I agree with you.
It depends on how the service is on how much I'll tip the person.

[Pyramid*]

I will only tip if the service is good.

I despise places where a tip is compulsory and added onto your bill :bored:


You don't have to pay that btw.

If I see this, I always ask the staff if they in fact, do get the tip (often as you'll know, they dont). If they don't, I ask for it to be removed from the bill, and give out a personal tip.

Of course I don't tip if it's crap service, at all.

[nicole_burks]

You don't have to pay that btw.

If I see this, I always ask the staff if they in fact, do get the tip (often as you'll know, they dont). If they don't, I ask for it to be removed from the bill, and give out a personal tip.

Of course I don't tip if it's crap service, at all.

You aren't forced to pay a tip? :suspect:
I mean, we're not either, but they get really angry if we don't.

[Pyramid*]

You aren't forced to pay a tip? :suspect:
I mean, we're not either, but they get really angry if we don't.

No, no. I mean the 'service charge' that is added to the bill as part of the bill when presented. If you feel the service has been under standard, you are within your rights to have that service charge removed - or to not pay it. But if there has been good service, It's a ploy used by less honest restauranteurs - the service charge is meant to be passed onto the staff - some owners don't do that. Some, not all.....

Hence the reason that if I see such a charge - I will ask a staff member if they are given the 'service charge' into their tips jar..... if they say no, I won't pay the service charge on the bill...but will give it personally and in cash to the waiter/waitress.

Working with Joe Public in this line of work is a bloody thankless task - and often, the best tippers are those who either do work or have worked in these areas - that's why we know tips really do make up a lot of the wages.

When I did bar work / cocktail waitressing - my tips were always 2 to 3 times as much as my 'wages'. It's long hard hours for a pittance - so tips and good ones are needed.

[Lewis.]

Depends on the service really - but I always make sure it actually goes to the people serving me.

[MTVN]

I think people should always tip really, even if the service isn't that great just reduce it a bit and only give 5%, although I agree that it a compulsory "service charge" shouldn't be added to the bill

[Pyramid*]

I think people should always tip really, even if the service isn't that great just reduce it a bit and only give 5%, although I agree that it a compulsory "service charge" shouldn't be added to the bill

Really.

If you get crap service, crap quality, why should anyone be given extra for failing in their job.? You'd be as well just giving them money for doing nothing. Just pass the door and throw a fiver in, for the hell of it

[Benjamin]

You don't have to pay that btw.

If I see this, I always ask the staff if they in fact, do get the tip (often as you'll know, they dont). If they don't, I ask for it to be removed from the bill, and give out a personal tip.

Of course I don't tip if it's crap service, at all.

This.

I hate the service charge automatically being added, especially if my waiter/waitress won't even get any of it.


I prefer to tip, and I'm usually really generous; leaving about 20% of my bill if I know the waitress/waiter will keep their own tip.

[Benjamin]

I think people should always tip really, even if the service isn't that great just reduce it a bit and only give 5%, although I agree that it a compulsory "service charge" shouldn't be added to the bill

I disagree. I think a tip should be left if your wiater or waitress has given good service. If they have been rude or miserable then they shouldn't get anything.


Although there is nothing worse than having a large party say of about 20 who all night are demanding as hell, run you ragged all night and taking your time away from your smaller tables only for this large party to all pay individually and not leave anything. Tight fisted bastards.

[MTVN]

Really.

If you get crap service, crap quality, why should anyone be given extra for failing in their job.? You'd be as well just giving them money for doing nothing. Just pass the door and throw a fiver in, for the hell of it

But tipping is the reason that waiters/waitresses generally receive by far lower wages seeing as they're factored into their income so I don't think it's that unreasonable to always leave a few quid behind. Service might not have been great but then if anyone in any other job doesn't have a great day they'll still receive a full wage, can't really say the same for waiters/resses.

[Crimson Dynamo]

I avoid tipping where possible and at all times. Silly habit.

[MTVN]

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[Pyramid*]

But tipping is the reason that waiters/waitresses generally receive by far lower wages seeing as they're factored into their income so I don't think it's that unreasonable to always leave a few quid behind. Service might not have been great but then if anyone in any other job doesn't have a great day they'll still receive a full wage, can't really say the same for waiters/resses.

Ach rubbish...

So you get a dour faced bitch firing your menu down on the table. dont ask if you want a drink while you are perusing menu. Brings food and bangs down plates without a word. Avoids all interaction, checking if you need refills during meal, etc... and you want to tip them regardless.

aye... good luck running your own business. :hugesmile:

[Niamh.]

I will tip unless the service is really bad

[joeysteele]

Out for a meal,I generally do give or leave a tip,however often when out with student mates,some staff seem to take the attitude we are 2nd class citizens so they would get no tip at all.
Some Restaurant staff are really rude at times if a group of students go in. It's entirely different when with my family and we go out for a meal.I feel everyone should be treated the same.

In Pubs or Clubs then generally I wouldn't bother with change and if used to the person behind the bar then I will usually tell them to take for a drink themselves.
Yes though, I feel happier if a do give a tip for good service.

[Josy]

I tip most of the time.

[Stu]

I always leave a generous tip unless the service was particularly bad.

[Crimson Dynamo]

anyone who tips in a bar is either showing off or a moron

[InOne]

I've never really tipped at all.

[King Gizzard]

You scummy northerners you

[InOne]

I don't see the point in tipping in a greasy spoon :nono:

And restaurants are expensive enough as it is

[Marc]

I will only tip if the service is good.

I despise places where a tip is compulsory and added onto your bill :bored:

This. However sometimes I feel guilty at the thought of not tipping them and do it anyway

[Marc]

In our local Indian restaurant my dad usually gives the tip directly to the guy who serves us as apparently his boss takes away the tips.

[Vicky.]

This. However sometimes I feel guilty at the thought of not tipping them and do it anyway

I dont feel guilty at all. Its not like they are working for only the tips(edit. which I think is why people tend to tip more abroad, some ARE working for only the tips)...they do get a set wage too. If you want extra, be good at your job.

[Crimson Dynamo]

The worst is tipping taxi drivers

i mean come on, all they do is sit on their arse and drive

lol

[Vicky.]

The worst is tipping taxi drivers

i mean come on, all they do is sit on their arse and drive

lol

I do that just out of convenience.

I hate sitting waiting for change while they huff and puff on as if you are asking them for money from their own pocket, and they take ages too :rolleyes:

Plus I only ever get a taxi usually if I have a load of shopping. And they always bring it to my door :)

[Marc]

LOL yeah I usually say keep the change to taxi drivers for the same reason

[Stu]

anyone who tips in a bar is either showing off or a moron
You win at life.

[arista]

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Yes he has a great point
You do not have to tip

[Niamh.]

The worst is tipping taxi drivers

i mean come on, all they do is sit on their arse and drive

lol

Actually being a Taxi driver is not that easy, it's really tiring driving all day/night plus you have to deal drunken morons too

[Crimson Dynamo]

Actually being a Taxi driver is not that easy, it's really tiring driving all day/night plus you have to deal drunken morons too

welcome to working for a living. we all have tough jobs.

arista aside

[Crimson Dynamo]

You win at life.

you lose at sarcasm

[CharlieO]

I never tip unless they have been particularly amazing or nice. But in a cab (in Singapore) if I'm in a hurry I quite often say keep the change but thats only when its less than 60cents (30p)

[SoBig]

I despise tipping. Why should I pay you extra to do a job that YOU ARE getting paid to do?

Another thing that bothers me is to tip more just because the food is $50 instead of say $20. It Didn't cause the waitress/waiter to work any harder, but he/she makes more since the 15% of $50 is more than 15% of $20. Just absolutely ridiculous.

[Niamh.]

welcome to working for a living. we all have tough jobs.

arista aside

I don't :tongue:

[MTVN]

Yes he has a great point
You do not have to tip

He did tip in the end :nono:

Also I know that with waiters and waitresses they get a lower wage and get taxed for tips but is that the same with delivery men? Because I was thinking how we normally tip the guy who brings the pizzas which is odd really because it's a pretty hard job to be bad at

[Vicky.]

Another thing that bothers me is to tip more just because the food is $50 instead of say $20. It Didn't cause the waitress/waiter to work any harder, but he/she makes more since the 15% of $50 is more than 15% of $20. Just absolutely ridiculous.

Yeah I dont quite understand this either tbh.

[Pyramid*]

He did tip in the end :nono:

Also I know that with waiters and waitresses they get a lower wage and get taxed for tips but is that the same with delivery men? Because I was thinking how we normally tip the guy who brings the pizzas which is odd really because it's a pretty hard job to be bad at

Never had a pizza delivered almost cold / took way too long / half of its toppings piled up in the corner of the box.

[MTVN]

Never had a pizza delivered almost cold / took way too long / half of its toppings piled up in the corner of the box.

Hmm not really, I've had the wrong pizza before but that's not the delivery guys fault and one time he did take ages but that's because I gave him the wrong address :laugh: Plus we usually tip him before taking the pizzas out the boxes so we wouldn't know if they were too cold or had the toppings all over the place

[Pyramid*]

Hmm not really, I've had the wrong pizza before but that's not the delivery guys fault and one time he did take ages but that's because I gave him the wrong address :laugh: Plus we usually tip him before taking the pizzas out the boxes so we wouldn't know if they were too cold or had the toppings all over the place

I've had the 'taken ages and it's not piping hot' situ - like you, I tip before opening but you can be sure that next time that person delivers - he /she gets nada.

[Livia]

welcome to working for a living. we all have tough jobs....


Oh bugger... I knew there was something I should be doing this afternoon.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Oh bugger... I knew there was something I should be doing this afternoon.

Livia we all know that you have someone looking after the parlour for you on Friday's - all that PVC plays havoc with your skin Monday to Thursday

[Livia]

Livia we all know that you have someone looking after the parlour for you on Friday's - all that PVC plays havoc with your skin Monday to Thursday

It's a dirty job, but someone's got to do it.

[Crimson Dynamo]

It's a dirty job, but someone's got to do it.



*insert noise of whip crack*

[tmi]

My tip would be dont eat yellow snow.:joker::devil:

[Chuck]

I only tip if the service is good and the waiter is ugly because people (my friends) only tip when the waiter is obviously an unemployed model/actor/singer/dancer and I know they're not the only ones who do that so I feel bad for the unattractive ones. :''(