One World Trade Center (aka 'Freedom Tower')

[Scarlett.]

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Coming along quite well :D

[King Gizzard]

What's happening on all the floors? Memorials/charities n stuff?

[Vicky.]

Wonder if this one has been built strong enough to stay standing if there is a fire :suspect:

[Scarlett.]

I think it's generally going to be what the original one was, but of course with some memorials. The name Freedom Tower has been dropped I think

[Conor]

Being interested in architecture, I don't really think this is a particularly amazing tower. Norman Fosters and Richard Rogers towers at either side of this are both way better looking and will hopefully be built. The memorial waterfalls really are an amazing idea though and hopefully someday I'll be able to visit the site and museum.

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[Jack_]

This was supposed to be completed by this year, opening on the 10th anniversary. It's a shame it's not.

[Scarlett.]

The buildings look quite out of place against all the aging skyscrapers, it's good they are building them differently to what used to be there though

[lostalex]

The buildings look quite out of place against all the aging skyscrapers, it's good they are building them differently to what used to be there though

That's what they said about the original WTC towers too, so i guess they are continuing the tradition.

They described the Original WTC towers as monolithic, and not adventurous enuf, and boring etc etc etc... so i think that bodes well for the new tower, as eventually the twin towers were iconic. (like the statue of liberty and the eifell tower before)

The only thing i don't like is that it's just 1 main tower, I think whatever the design, they should have made 2 of them. It is a nice looking tower though. But the city so nice that they named it twice should have twin towers i think. The city version of a chimera.

New York, New York.

[lostalex]

What's happening on all the floors? Memorials/charities n stuff?


no, the memorial is below, on the original WTC site. i do think it is a bit depressing that they've decided not to build on the original WTC site.

Honestlty if it were up to me, I would have preferred that they rebuilt them exactly as they were. I think that would be an incredible statement. Maybe 1 story taller, but exactly as they were design wise.

[arista]

Coming along quite well :D



Taking to Long

[lostalex]

Wonder if this one has been built strong enough to stay standing if there is a fire :suspect:


The original WTC withstood many fires. it even withstood the ORIGINAL WTC attack in 1993, when Al Qaueda detonated huge bombs under neath the towers.

I love how the conspiracy theorists always fail to mention that actually the towers survived the 1993 attacks, do you think the 1993 attacks were an inside job too? or do you believe those were real terrorist attacks?


I think you mean 2 passenger jetliners filled with enuf jet fuel to travel half way across the world. (that's A LOT of jet fuel)

[Vicky.]

I think you mean 2 passenger jetliners filled with enuf jet fuel to travel half way across the world. (that's A LOT of jet fuel)

Nope. I mean wtc7 which fell due to fire...you know the one that DIDNT have a plane fly into it. But thanks for writing me off as a CT :laugh:

[lostalex]

Nope. I mean wtc7 which fell due to fire...you know the one that DIDNT have a plane fly into it. But thanks for writing me off as a CT :laugh:

I'm sorry if you thought i was writting you off as a CT. If you knew me better, you'd know i'd never do that, because i'm way into UFO's, so i wouldn't do that. I believe in some things that most people would ridicule too.

But BBC recently did a program about the damage done to WTC7 by the buildings collapsing, literally the entire building was on fire, and there was alot of damage done to it, it was WTC7, ofcourse it was damaged by the towers collapsing. 110 stories, 2 towers, 220 stories of steel and concrete straight up in the air, ofcourse it damaged the surrounding buildings.
Unfortunately most of the news coverage was only from one angle, because the news copters had only shoot from one angle, because there was so much smoke. But there are some photo's of the damage done to WTC7 from the other side that showed how damaged it actually was.

remember wtc7 was build right next to the twin towers(wtc1 and wtc2) they both collapased, you honestly don't realize that by two 110 story buildings collapsing next to wtc7 it would damage wtc7 completely?? I'm surprised all of the wtc buildings (wtc3-6) also weren't destroyed.

[Vicky.]

Ah right, was just the way you worded it thats all :p

I dunno what to believe about it all tbh. I certainly dont believe it was all an inside job, the sheer amount of people that would need to be in on it would be ridiculous. I will always think there is something a bit off about it though. Those buildings were designed to withold hurricanes, massive earthquakes and that. Yes, I understand having planes flown into them is very different to that, and yes I understand how the burning jet fuel could melt steel. But even with damage, building 7, IMO should not have gone down. There was no jet fuel, the fires were pretty much office fires. I have seen a video of it all from a different angle (the top corner or the building fell first IIRC) but I still cant understand how the whole building could pancake onto itself the way it did because of damage to (mostly) the top corner.

[Photon]

There was a ton of debris from the collapse of the WTC 1&2 that entered the building and burned uncontrollably. A large investigation was done and concluded that this significantly weakened the structure on multiple floors. Numerous structural engineers and architects(some of whom worked on these buildings) agreed with this conclusion.

[Scarlett.]

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[billy123]

Are the memorial fountains the same dimensions (width wise) that the towers themselves were? if so they look so small when you see them like that.
I agree i would have liked to have seen them rebuilt looking exactly as they were asap after it had happened but just stronger and maybe even higher.

[Jarrod]

Are the memorial fountains the same dimensions (width wise) that the towers themselves were? if so they look so small when you see them like that.
I agree i would have liked to have seen them rebuilt looking exactly as they were asap after it had happened but just stronger and maybe even higher.


The two Memorial Fountains are the exact spaces where the North and South Towers stood. They are the same width and length.

[Marc]

The fountain's look really nice :)

[Ninastar]

when i was in NY, i didn't see this. I saw the cranes though, they were huge. maybe i did see it and didn't notice it. I wish i read more about so I could have visited everything

[Niall]

Being interested in architecture, I don't really think this is a particularly amazing tower. Norman Fosters and Richard Rogers towers at either side of this are both way better looking and will hopefully be built. The memorial waterfalls really are an amazing idea though and hopefully someday I'll be able to visit the site and museum.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3168/2943240953_02c1a498a5.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/30829976@N04/2943240953/)
71795521HO004_New_World_Tra (http://www.flickr.com/photos/30829976@N04/2943240953/) by jmd2275 (http://www.flickr.com/people/30829976@N04/), on Flickr

Yeah the second tower with the diamond shaped roof is far nicer and much more striking than the freedom tower imo.

[Patrick]

I thought they were just going to constantly shine two bright lights up in place of the towers?

http://www.911memorialquilts.com/images/107.jpg

They looks far better than that ugly new tower - the new tower looks like it's for France.

That light/shining idea is like shadows of where the towers stood, I think it's beautiful - are they not going ahead with that now?

[Saph]

Are they gonna make the new towers world trade centres again? I doubt anyone would want to work there.

I love the waterfall thing, but the colours a little ugly.. they could have made it a nice blue to show the clear water, coz it looks abit green :/

The 2 lights shining is a really nice idea, they shoud just use that one :)

[Scarlett.]

They probably could do the two spotlights from the memorial gardens

[CharlieO]

I love that area.

[Tom]

I can see another plane going into it as soon as its built and opened

I love the waterfalls, I was watching that thing on Sky News and they look fantastic. Its a shame they couldn't go to the full 70 feet though and had to stop at 30

[Scarlett.]

This picture is beautiful

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2011/09/10/article-0-0DCCFC2D00000578-412_964x582.jpg

[lostalex]

I thought they were just going to constantly shine two bright lights up in place of the towers?

http://www.911memorialquilts.com/images/107.jpg

They looks far better than that ugly new tower - the new tower looks like it's for France.

That light/shining idea is like shadows of where the towers stood, I think it's beautiful - are they not going ahead with that now?

They've been shining the 2 lights every year on the anniversary since 2002, and I assume they will continue doing it every year for the anniversary. Also the new tower is NOT where the old towers were. The footprints of the old towers are now waterfalls.

As far as the new tower looking like it's for France?? i have no idea what that means.

[Conor]

Yeah the second tower with the diamond shaped roof is far nicer and much more striking than the freedom tower imo.

Yep :D Although the second tower looks distorted from some angles which is weird. My fav will be Richard Rogers tower, because I think his work is amazing.

I thought they were just going to constantly shine two bright lights up in place of the towers?

http://www.911memorialquilts.com/images/107.jpg

They looks far better than that ugly new tower - the new tower looks like it's for France.

That light/shining idea is like shadows of where the towers stood, I think it's beautiful - are they not going ahead with that now?

France?? France is undoubtedly one of the worlds most fore-thinking countries architecturally. If France was to build a tower over 400m tall it would probably look amazing. Infact they already have the Eiffel Tower, which is the most famous tower on this planet. Also Tour First, Hermitage Plaza, (Future tallest buildings in EU) Tour Phare (which will be revolutionary when it's built) and Tour Montparnasse (Previous tallest building in EU) are all great examples of fantastic & modern French towers, not to mention low-rises such as the Pompidou Centre and La Grande Arch.

Also, those beams of light are only installed each year of the anniversary of 9/11 I think.

[Ninastar]

turns out I did see it, I got a picture and everything

they have made loads of progress since easter though

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[Scarlett.]

I like all the new buildings, they look different to the rest of New York, but thats not a bad thing

[Tom]

I like all the new buildings, they look different to the rest of New York, but thats not a bad thing

It looks like Canary Wharf

[Callum]

I just watched a programme about this, it's going to be much safer than the Twin towers. LED lights on the stairs if all the electricity goes off, the doors automatically shut to prevent any toxic air getting into the stairwells, the stairwells themselves are much wider allowing more people to run down them, intercoms allowing access to fire service and police in the case of an emergency, more sprinklers. 2013 it'll be finished, can't wait to see it complete.

[lostalex]

I think the 2 main buildings really do capture a spirit of 9/11 though. the Freedom Tower looks like it's twisting, an the diamond building looks like the top was cut off by a samurai sword. So in a way, it's almost like 2 distorted an damaged twin towers.


The Chrysler Building is still the most beautiful skyscraper in the world in my opinion though.

[Callum]

If resembles both the original WTC towers and the Washington monument.

[lostalex]

I also like how the freedom tower looks like it's twisting away from the twins, as if it can't bear to look at the empty holes, too painful.

[Doogle]

I don't like it :/

[Patrick]

As far as the new tower looking like it's for France?? i have no idea what that means.

Because of the colours dude.

[lostalex]

Because of the colours dude.

ahhh, ic, the tri-colour. gotcha.

[GypsyGoth]

I love the pool things, I want to go see them.

[Scarlett.]

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[lostalex]

^^ awesome pics. Awesome memorial services. I really don't give a flying feck what kind of crap Al Jazeera or the Guardian, or RT tries to say....

It was a great memorial service, they got the tone of the day just right, it was perfect.

[Callum]

Yeah, I agree the memorial service today was very moving.

Is it true that this year was the last time that the two beams of light would be shot up into the sky like in that above picture?

[Conor]

I really do think the memorial is stunning. It's certainly one of the most ingenious I've ever seen. I think it's my fav in the world along with the Holocaust memorial in Berlin. btw, regarding the tower- I think I already mentioned it in this thread, but there's nothing overly special about it. Especially considering how much future media attention it will get and what it has replaced. I do like the fact there are 8 sides on the one tower though. I think it's a nice nod to the old towers which combined had 8 sides. Also, the mast at the top is very reminiscent of WTC1, especially from silhouetted renders in the distance. The best modern tower in NYC however issss....

BoA tower

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[Scarlett.]

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[Lewis.]

Coming on really nicely :)

[Jordan.]

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78 / 104 floors done

[daniel-lewis-1985]

I really wish they had rebuilt the towers as they were as a two fingers up to the terrorist ***** who killed so many people.

[Scarlett.]

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78 / 104 floors done
Must be freezing up there lol

[GypsyGoth]

I'd say those pool things are the saddest place in america.

[Scarlett.]

New pic

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[Jack_]

I'm not gonna lie, I did do a double take when I saw that red helicopter next to the building... :o

[Scarlett.]

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Larger pic (http://i.imgur.com/x74MITn.jpg)

[GypsyGoth]

I think it looks really good so far :love:

[Z]

Cool looking building!

[Mitchell]

It actually looks nice

[Patrick]

I'm not gonna lie, I did do a double take when I saw that red helicopter next to the building... :o

:joker::joker::joker::joker::joker::joker::joker:

[lostalex]

looks like it's getting close to the top. I wonder if it will be done by Sept. 11th this year for the anniversary.

[Kazanne]

It's beautiful,I will be there myself soon,the memorial is a sight to behold,I adore NY.

[Scarlett.]

looks like it's getting close to the top. I wonder if it will be done by Sept. 11th this year for the anniversary.

I think so :blush:

[SharkAttack]

looks like it's getting close to the top. I wonder if it will be done by Sept. 11th this year for the anniversary.

That's not a crane up top, it's a very large swiveling defense mechanism. ;)

Alright, maybe not, but that would be sweet. :blush:

[Cherie]

It's beautiful,I will be there myself soon,the memorial is a sight to behold,I adore NY.

Going in Oct, not been before so really looking forward to it. Will have to have a chat!

[Kazanne]

Going in Oct, not been before so really looking forward to it. Will have to have a chat!

Cherie I think you'll love it,the best city ever,my brother lives there,i lived there for a while and miss it so much,where abouts are you going ,do you know?We are off there soon (end of May)cant wait,and yes lets chat:hugesmile:

[Mrluvaluva]

A time lapse of a video released by the Port Authority shows the spire being raised to the top of One World Trade Center.

XXkiUna7vd0

[Marc]

:o those brave men!! I definitely wouldn't have the guts to do that

[Glenn.]

Omg that's high :eek:

[HD]

That video knocked me ill.

Good men!