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What's happening on all the floors? Memorials/charities n stuff?
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Wonder if this one has been built strong enough to stay standing if there is a fire
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I think it's generally going to be what the original one was, but of course with some memorials. The name Freedom Tower has been dropped I think
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Being interested in architecture, I don't really think this is a particularly amazing tower. Norman Fosters and Richard Rogers towers at either side of this are both way better looking and will hopefully be built. The memorial waterfalls really are an amazing idea though and hopefully someday I'll be able to visit the site and museum.


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This was supposed to be completed by this year, opening on the 10th anniversary. It's a shame it's not.
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The buildings look quite out of place against all the aging skyscrapers, it's good they are building them differently to what used to be there though
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The buildings look quite out of place against all the aging skyscrapers, it's good they are building them differently to what used to be there though
That's what they said about the original WTC towers too, so i guess they are continuing the tradition.

They described the Original WTC towers as monolithic, and not adventurous enuf, and boring etc etc etc... so i think that bodes well for the new tower, as eventually the twin towers were iconic. (like the statue of liberty and the eifell tower before)

The only thing i don't like is that it's just 1 main tower, I think whatever the design, they should have made 2 of them. It is a nice looking tower though. But the city so nice that they named it twice should have twin towers i think. The city version of a chimera.

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What's happening on all the floors? Memorials/charities n stuff?

no, the memorial is below, on the original WTC site. i do think it is a bit depressing that they've decided not to build on the original WTC site.

Honestlty if it were up to me, I would have preferred that they rebuilt them exactly as they were. I think that would be an incredible statement. Maybe 1 story taller, but exactly as they were design wise.
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Wonder if this one has been built strong enough to stay standing if there is a fire

The original WTC withstood many fires. it even withstood the ORIGINAL WTC attack in 1993, when Al Qaueda detonated huge bombs under neath the towers.

I love how the conspiracy theorists always fail to mention that actually the towers survived the 1993 attacks, do you think the 1993 attacks were an inside job too? or do you believe those were real terrorist attacks?


I think you mean 2 passenger jetliners filled with enuf jet fuel to travel half way across the world. (that's A LOT of jet fuel)
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I think you mean 2 passenger jetliners filled with enuf jet fuel to travel half way across the world. (that's A LOT of jet fuel)
Nope. I mean wtc7 which fell due to fire...you know the one that DIDNT have a plane fly into it. But thanks for writing me off as a CT
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Nope. I mean wtc7 which fell due to fire...you know the one that DIDNT have a plane fly into it. But thanks for writing me off as a CT
I'm sorry if you thought i was writting you off as a CT. If you knew me better, you'd know i'd never do that, because i'm way into UFO's, so i wouldn't do that. I believe in some things that most people would ridicule too.

But BBC recently did a program about the damage done to WTC7 by the buildings collapsing, literally the entire building was on fire, and there was alot of damage done to it, it was WTC7, ofcourse it was damaged by the towers collapsing. 110 stories, 2 towers, 220 stories of steel and concrete straight up in the air, ofcourse it damaged the surrounding buildings.
Unfortunately most of the news coverage was only from one angle, because the news copters had only shoot from one angle, because there was so much smoke. But there are some photo's of the damage done to WTC7 from the other side that showed how damaged it actually was.

remember wtc7 was build right next to the twin towers(wtc1 and wtc2) they both collapased, you honestly don't realize that by two 110 story buildings collapsing next to wtc7 it would damage wtc7 completely?? I'm surprised all of the wtc buildings (wtc3-6) also weren't destroyed.
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Ah right, was just the way you worded it thats all

I dunno what to believe about it all tbh. I certainly dont believe it was all an inside job, the sheer amount of people that would need to be in on it would be ridiculous. I will always think there is something a bit off about it though. Those buildings were designed to withold hurricanes, massive earthquakes and that. Yes, I understand having planes flown into them is very different to that, and yes I understand how the burning jet fuel could melt steel. But even with damage, building 7, IMO should not have gone down. There was no jet fuel, the fires were pretty much office fires. I have seen a video of it all from a different angle (the top corner or the building fell first IIRC) but I still cant understand how the whole building could pancake onto itself the way it did because of damage to (mostly) the top corner.
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There was a ton of debris from the collapse of the WTC 1&2 that entered the building and burned uncontrollably. A large investigation was done and concluded that this significantly weakened the structure on multiple floors. Numerous structural engineers and architects(some of whom worked on these buildings) agreed with this conclusion.
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Are the memorial fountains the same dimensions (width wise) that the towers themselves were? if so they look so small when you see them like that.
I agree i would have liked to have seen them rebuilt looking exactly as they were asap after it had happened but just stronger and maybe even higher.

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Are the memorial fountains the same dimensions (width wise) that the towers themselves were? if so they look so small when you see them like that.
I agree i would have liked to have seen them rebuilt looking exactly as they were asap after it had happened but just stronger and maybe even higher.

The two Memorial Fountains are the exact spaces where the North and South Towers stood. They are the same width and length.
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The fountain's look really nice
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when i was in NY, i didn't see this. I saw the cranes though, they were huge. maybe i did see it and didn't notice it. I wish i read more about so I could have visited everything
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Being interested in architecture, I don't really think this is a particularly amazing tower. Norman Fosters and Richard Rogers towers at either side of this are both way better looking and will hopefully be built. The memorial waterfalls really are an amazing idea though and hopefully someday I'll be able to visit the site and museum.


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Yeah the second tower with the diamond shaped roof is far nicer and much more striking than the freedom tower imo.
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I thought they were just going to constantly shine two bright lights up in place of the towers?



They looks far better than that ugly new tower - the new tower looks like it's for France.

That light/shining idea is like shadows of where the towers stood, I think it's beautiful - are they not going ahead with that now?
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Are they gonna make the new towers world trade centres again? I doubt anyone would want to work there.

I love the waterfall thing, but the colours a little ugly.. they could have made it a nice blue to show the clear water, coz it looks abit green :/

The 2 lights shining is a really nice idea, they shoud just use that one
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They probably could do the two spotlights from the memorial gardens
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