Harry being nominated because of his fox hunting

[headaball]

They shouldn't be allowed. Bull**** noms that have got nothing to do with what has happened in the house.

[D3vilish]

They shouldn't be allowed. Bull**** noms that have got nothing to do with what has happened in the house.

He did speak about fox hunting in the house though tbh, And it might disgust people..

Not to mention theirs what we haven't seen, and if the way he acted to pamela is anything, then their reasons are valid..


Even if it was to look good in the public eye, it still happened, it still might of made people sick / angry / upset, and is a valid point.

[Livia]

Fox hunting is banned. Everyone feels so strongly about it that they don't even know that? He might used to hunt, but not any more.

[fingers]

Fox hunting is banned. Everyone feels so strongly about it that they don't even know that? He might used to hunt, but not any more.

Bet he still does though! but a piss poor reason to nominate him!

[Livia]

Bet he still does though! but a piss poor reason to nominate him!

There are far too many sabs watching hunts for them to do it and get away with it for any length of time. They can drag hunt...

I think they used it as an excuse to out the posh boy. It's okay to take the pee out of someone because of their background because they consider them to be posh. If they did the same to someone else because they were working class, or ethnic, or homosexual, people would be outraged.

[Roy Mars III]

The housemates want to look good in the public eye. It's ridiculous, you shouldn't nominate someone for something on the outside.

[Livia]

No it isn't, they have to shoot the fox now instead of letting a pack of dogs tear it apart. Also they are only allowed 2 dogs in a hunt.

Still brutal as hell, and I'm not condoning it in anyway.

Unfortunately, foxes have to be controlled. If they didn't shoot them, they'd poison them, which is a far worse death than a bullet.

[jtalh2003]

i would have nominated him for that if i was in there tbh

and its a better reason than what that other gave"because i watched him eat a egg and i dont like eggs"

[fingers]

and its a better reason than what that other gave"because i watched him eat a egg and i dont like eggs"

:joker::joker::joker::joker::joker:

[▲¯\_(ツ)_/¯▲]

Unfortunately, foxes have to be controlled. If they didn't shoot them, they'd poison them, which is a far worse death than a bullet.

Oh I totally agree, I actually live in a rural area and have firearms licences myself (prepares to get flamed). I misunderstood, I thought you meant it has been banned outright.

They still can chase the fox on horse back though, only they can't have a whole pack of dogs any more, only two, they also can't dig the fox out, once/if it goes to ground its hunt over. What normally happens is, the fox runs until its exhausted, and just stops running and they have to shoot it, whereas before the ban they would let the dogs kill it.
It still is an absolutely disgusting and barbaric practise, and has no place in a modern society.
What you describe above is vermin control, and is perfectly acceptable IMO and also necessary.

[yoshi88]

I think it is more than reason enough to nominate him. I think he is obviously a sick individual and I would have concerns for the other housemates so I really hope he does go.

[Jords]

Fair enough for 1 round of nominations but it shouldnt be allowed again.

[yoshi88]

Fair enough for 1 round of nominations but it shouldnt be allowed again.

Fair left the building along with humanity when it comes to such perversion.

[▲¯\_(ツ)_/¯▲]

I would have concerns for the other housemates
Eh...thats a bit much don't ya think? Its not like he has his shotgun in the house with him or anything.

Mores the pity:joker:

[Marc]

Foxes are gross anyway.

[yoshi88]

Eh...thats a bit much don't ya think? Its not like he has his shotgun in the house with him or anything.

Mores the pity:joker:

Not really and I certainly would not trust him to look after children. Would you trust him?

[jtalh2003]

Eh...thats a bit much don't ya think? Its not like he has his shotgun in the house with him or anything.

Mores the pity:joker:

you never know that might have been his 1 luxury item :joker::joker:

[yoshi88]

Foxes are gross anyway.

Compared to what humans? :conf:

[Pyramid*]

and its a better reason than what that other gave"because i watched him eat a egg and i dont like eggs"

:joker::joker::joker::joker::joker:


Better than that was Mark's additional comment along the lines of "he consumed it like it wasn't even there"

*Still trying to get my head round that one!!!* :hugesmile:

[headaball]

I think it is more than reason enough to nominate him. I think he is obviously a sick individual and I would have concerns for the other housemates so I really hope he does go.

Alex is the only one you should have concerns for. He might mistake her for some animal-based experiment that went wrong.

[▲¯\_(ツ)_/¯▲]

Not really and I certainly would not trust him to look after children. Would you trust him?

Are you serious? He hunts foxes not people...


you never know that might have been his 1 luxury item :joker::joker:
I bloody well hope so, we'd have an interesting "Dodge the buckshot task" if he did

[Livia]

Oh I totally agree, I actually live in a rural area and have firearms licences myself (prepares to get flamed). I misunderstood, I thought you meant it has been banned outright.

They still can chase the fox on horse back though, only they can't have a whole pack of dogs any more, only two, they also can't dig the fox out, once/if it goes to ground its hunt over. What normally happens is, the fox runs until its exhausted, and just stops running and they have to shoot it, whereas before the ban they would let the dogs kill it.
It still is an absolutely disgusting and barbaric practise, and has no place in a modern society.
What you describe above is vermin control, and is perfectly acceptable IMO and also necessary.

I live in the country myself, three miles from the nearest village. Everyone I know has a shotgun. I come from London though, and until you live in the countryside you really have no idea about foxes or animal control. I didn't when I moved here. Hunting with dogs for fun though... like you say disgusting and barbaric.

[Livia]

Not really and I certainly would not trust him to look after children. Would you trust him?

What a ridiculous thing to say.

[jtalh2003]

Are you serious? He hunts foxes not people...
didn't some change to hunting a bloke running round the country side dragging a aniseed bag behind him?

not sure what happened when they got him :joker::joker:

[Marc]

Compared to what humans? :conf:

yes. well done.

[Mystic Mock]

Are you serious? He hunts foxes not people...



I bloody well hope so, we'd have an interesting "Dodge the buckshot task" if he did

Lol you cruel bastard.:joker:

Although he can shoot Aden and Rebeckah.:joker:

[yoshi88]

yes. well done.

So you think foxes are gross compared to human beings, ok could you explain that a bit please.

[Livia]

So you think foxes are gross compared to human beings, ok could you explain that a bit please.

You should see a henhouse after a fox has got in, killed them all for fun and eaten none of them.

[yoshi88]

You should see a henhouse after a fox has got in, killed them all for fun and eaten none of them.

Your wrong foxes do not kill for fun. Most animals need to find food every day to survive. Some nights are better than others in terms of food for a fox so, given the opportunity, foxes will always kill surplus food and cache (bury) it, to eat on another night when hunting is less good. This is a very successful strategy for surviving in the wild.

However, when a fox breaks into a hen house it is surrounded by easily caught prey. Its normal behaviour, and a good survival strategy is to kill all prey available and try to cache it. Given the option, the fox will come back for the remaining corpses and cache them.

The sun newspaper is not always the best place to learn facts. :nono:

[▲¯\_(ツ)_/¯▲]

Your wrong foxes do not kill for fun. Most animals need to find food every day to survive. Some nights are better than others in terms of food for a fox so, given the opportunity, foxes will always kill surplus food and cache (bury) it, to eat on another night when hunting is less good. This is a very successful strategy for surviving in the wild.

However, when a fox breaks into a hen house it is surrounded by easily caught prey. Its normal behaviour, and a good survival strategy is to kill all prey available and try to cache it. Given the option, the fox will come back for the remaining corpses and cache them.

The sun newspaper is not always the best place to learn facts. :nono:

Foxes are a pest no matter what way you try and paint it, and no its not actually a good survival strategy, considering I'm going to find the fecker and shoot it in the noggin after it does that.

[yoshi88]

A pest to who humans? The arrogance of my species astounds me sometimes. The only real pest on this planet is your own.

Besides that foxes provide an indirect economic benefit to farmers of at least £7 million annually by eating rabbits. Because fox benefits offset their costs, foxes are probably economically neutral to farmers. So even that is a myth, its all just nonsense so perverts can carry on being perverts and torturing them for fun.

[headaball]

Easy target as Lord Aaron says.

[Visage]

Foxes are gross anyway.

Megan is alright though.

[Mystic Mock]

. The only real pest on this planet is your own.



So are you an alien then.:joker:

[yoshi88]

So are you an alien then.:joker:

Feels like it most days! :spin:

[▲¯\_(ツ)_/¯▲]

A pest to who humans? The arrogance of my species astounds me sometimes. The only real pest on this planet is your own.

Besides that foxes provide an indirect economic benefit to farmers of at least £7 million annually by eating rabbits. Because fox benefits offset their costs, foxes are probably economically neutral to farmers. So even that is a myth, its all just nonsense so perverts can carry on being perverts and torturing them for fun.You genuinely don't have a clue what you are talking about, for every rabbit a fox eats there are 500 more eating our crops. I live on a farm, all my family are farmers, they have cost us countless of thousands over the past few years, along with rabbits, which I happily manage also. I take no pleasure in it, it is necessary. If you had it your way we'd all be vegan, but the rabbits would have eaten all our crops, because presumably you wouldn't want us managing them either, so we'd just starve to death.
Anyway PM me if you want me to educate you any more because this is totally off topic now

[Mystic Mock]

Feels like it most days! :spin:

:joker: In all seriousness I do agree with you that killing Foxes when they aint even near your land is quite vile,but the Governments will never give in to what the majority of the normal everyday people want as they are the people living in the countryside killing foxes for fun.

I still dont think Pamela Anderson should have been allowed to tell the rest of the house about Harry Foxhunting in the outside world,although I still think Harry would have been up for eviction anyway.

[Kazanne]

Must admit I have great difficulty getting past the fox hunting that Harry does,and what was Jay rattling about more or less saying that it's ok to kill an animal as long as you eat it,LOL idiot(no one needs to kill to eat today)so his objection to Harrys foxhunting didn't make sense.Harry seems to be a nice bloke,but it would go against my beliefs to support him.

[yoshi88]

You genuinely don't have a clue what you are talking about. I live on a farm, all my family are farmers, they have cost us countless of thousands over the past few years.
Anyway PM me if you want me to educate you any more because this is totally off topic now

Farmer is like like a euphemism for someone who profits from exploiting animals?

I don't think it would be a unbiased education somehow so I will pass thanks.

[yoshi88]

You genuinely don't have a clue what you are talking about, for every rabbit a fox eats there are 500 more eating our crops. I live on a farm, all my family are farmers, they have cost us countless of thousands over the past few years, along with rabbits, which I happily manage also. I take no pleasure in it, it is necessary. If you had it your way we'd all be vegan, but the rabbits would have eaten all our crops, because presumably you wouldn't want us managing them either, so we'd just starve to death.
Anyway PM me if you want me to educate you any more because this is totally off topic now

:hugesmile: maybe you should stop killing the foxes then.

[▲¯\_(ツ)_/¯▲]

Farmer is like like a euphemism for someone who profits from exploiting animals?

I don't think it would be a unbiased education somehow so I will pass thanks.
:hugesmile: maybe you should stop killing the foxes then.
http://www.gunandgame.com/forums/attachments/humor-forum/41434d1307561480-ninja-glock-picard-no-facepalm.jpg

[joeysteele]

I abhor fox hunting, I think it was Oscar Wilde who said fox hunting was ''the unspeakable in the pursuit of the uneatable''.

However, I can accept that some people against it, may not take kindly to people who are for it. I do not think though,that fact that Harry does this in the outside world,that it should be a valid reason for nominating him in the BB house.
That should centre on what he does or does not do in the house not outside of it.

The poster earlier is also likely correct that foxes do not kill for fun really.
I watched a documentary on foxes and it was explained, in particular, when a fox gets into a chicken run, it sees an abundance of food,firstly the noise the chickens make create the situation where the fox kills all it can to stop the noise,secondly, it would as the poster said above, take each chicken it could that it killed to bury/store it for food at a later date.

What happens generally though is people are alerted by the noise and chaos in the chicken run and when the owner/farmer gets there he has lots of dead chickens and the fox then cannot get back safely to carry them off to bury/store.

My Parents home is in the country,the sickest thing I have seen are pompous, horn blowing fully grown men on horseback, with loads of dogs chasing one fox to let the hounds tear it apart alive. I saw a kill once as a child and the memory of it has never left me and I hate the activity,I won't even think of callng it a sport.

If in the house though, I would talk to Harry on it, trying to get him to at least think again on it but as to nominations, I would never feel justified to use that as a reason to nominate him for eviction and I am surprised BB has actually as it is nominating from a position of prejudice.

[Colbert-Bump]

Dave had the same problem last year with the gay subject.

[jtalh2003]

farmers just need to get tougher chickens and the foxs wont bother them
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/top-stories/2010/03/03/the-brave-chickens-who-killed-mr-fox-115875-22081916/
:joker::joker::joker::joker:

[Livia]

Your wrong foxes do not kill for fun. Most animals need to find food every day to survive. Some nights are better than others in terms of food for a fox so, given the opportunity, foxes will always kill surplus food and cache (bury) it, to eat on another night when hunting is less good. This is a very successful strategy for surviving in the wild.

However, when a fox breaks into a hen house it is surrounded by easily caught prey. Its normal behaviour, and a good survival strategy is to kill all prey available and try to cache it. Given the option, the fox will come back for the remaining corpses and cache them.

The sun newspaper is not always the best place to learn facts. :nono:

Listen, darlin'...Try not to insult me by suggesting I get my facts from The Sun when you clearly don't know the difference between "you're" and "your". You make yourself look silly.

Foxes DO kill for fun. I know plenty of farmers who would attest to that.

If you want to get all teary over the fluffy animals, take yourself off to the local abattoir and see where you chicken nuggets and burgers come from.

[lostalex]

I don't really understand fox hunting. Do they even really hunt foxes? It sounds more like he just helps dogs hunt foxes. The dogs do the actual hunting/killing right?

[Livia]

I don't really understand fox hunting. Do they even really hunt foxes? It sounds more like he just helps dogs hunt foxes. The dogs do the actual hunting/killing right?

Fox hunting with dogs - you know, when they all dress up in red jackets and hunt foxes on horseback with a pack of dogs? - is now illegal. Thankfully. You can control fox numbers on your land... but it isn't the same as fox hunting for fun.

[joeysteele]

I don't really understand fox hunting. Do they even really hunt foxes? It sounds more like he just helps dogs hunt foxes. The dogs do the actual hunting/killing right?

Yes,loads of them who once they catch the Fox after exhausting it by chasing it for ages, rip it to pieces alive.

It's like something from the dark ages, to see so called civilised people enjoying this act is really sickening to me.

Harry has been brought up to think it's normal though,so that has to be understood from his perspective too. It is part of his life and upbringing but that should never be a valid reason to nominate him for eviction on BB, since that was the reason given by the housemates then those nominations should be disallowed from them.

I hate Fox hunting,I do hope though Harry gets saved by the public this week.

[joeysteele]

Fox hunting with dogs - you know, when they all dress up in red jackets and hunt foxes on horseback with a pack of dogs? - is now illegal. Thankfully. You can control fox numbers on your land... but it isn't the same as fox hunting for fun.

It is illegal but many do still just ignore the law and go and do it, challenging that law.hey enjoy challenging the law nearly as much as they enjoy fox hunting itself.

What an example they set to people.These so called noble people.

As much as I hate what they do, it's not a reason to take that view and apply it in a prejuduced way as some did yesterday in nominating Harry. Maybe they don't like him personally really,I feel though BB should have said, because he fox hunts that is not a valid reason for nomination. I was surprised BB let those nominations stand.

[Beso]

So you think foxes are gross compared to human beings, ok could you explain that a bit please.

they stink of piss, rummage through bins..make a hell of a noise at night when I'm on early shift..look ****ing mangy..

They aint basil ****ing brush you know.

[Livia]

It is illegal but many do still just ignore the law and go and do it, challenging that law.hey enjoy challenging the law nearly as much as they enjoy fox hunting itself.

What an example they set to people.These so called noble people.

As much as I hate what they do, it's not a reason to take that view and apply it in a prejuduced way as some did yesterday in nominating Harry. Maybe they don't like him personally really,I feel though BB should have said, because he fox hunts that is not a valid reason for nomination. I was surprised BB let those nominations stand.


I have a couple of hunts near me. They're watched very closely by the sabs, and quite rightly too. One of the things that really sickened me about hunting wasn't just the way they chase and kill the fox, it's the blooding of kids. Cutting off the dead fox's brush and rubbing the blood on the faces of children on their first hunt. Barbaric.

[joeysteele]

I have a couple of hunts near me. They're watched very closely by the sabs, and quite rightly too. One of the things that really sickened me about hunting wasn't just the way they chase and kill the fox, it's the blooding of kids. Cutting off the dead fox's brush and rubbing the blood on the faces of children on their first hunt. Barbaric.

Totally right.I meant to put that in one of my posts on this thread, kept forgetting that point, it is really awful.

[Niamh.]

It's as good a reason as any when you only know people a few days.

[lostalex]

If it was a tribe in Africa or in the Amazon doing it, we'd excuse it and call it "cultural", but because it's in England, we call it barbaric.

Just like when Native American's kill buffallo, it's beautiful, or when eskimo's kill seals it's traditional, isn't it beautiful that they continue their traditions, but if white canadians kill seals it's barbaric.

[David R]

Its such a pathetic reason to nominate someone for because their outside activities have no bearing on their personality in the house towards another housemate which is what your should be judging people on.

Also some of the housemates are clearly quite thick because fox hunting has been banned for years and years and they were talking like he still does it. As a housemate he's quite a nice guy and seems to pull his own weight in the house (he's always washing up!) and thats the thanks he gets.

I fear Harry will go because the way BB has edited it you haven't really got to see much of him and anything they have shown of him is either in bad light or making him seem boring (another reason why you need the live stream to make proper judgments on people).

[alc09]

It's laughable that Big Brother allowed the nominations for him that were because of his fox hunting.

Impressed with the line up and the show has been good so far, but that took the piss.

[▲¯\_(ツ)_/¯▲]

If it was a tribe in Africa or in the Amazon doing it, we'd excuse it and call it "cultural", but because it's in England, we call it barbaric.

Just like when Native American's kill buffallo, it's beautiful, or when eskimo's kill seals it's traditional, isn't it beautiful that they continue their traditions, but if white canadians kill seals it's barbaric.

Sorry but that is just ridiculous. African and Amazonian tribes hunt to surive. Eskimos kill seals to survive, not because its tradition. Canadians slaughter seals for "tradition", Norwegians slaughter whales to prove how "manly" they are, British and Irish chase foxes to exhaustion on horse back and then let dogs rip them to shreds, because its FUN!!1!!1!

There is absolutely no comparisons to be made, and I'm kinda shocked that, that needs explaining.

[DigitalSid]

Fox hunting is banned. Everyone feels so strongly about it that they don't even know that? He might used to hunt, but not any more.

It's not:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hunting_Act

[Mystic Mock]

I have a couple of hunts near me. They're watched very closely by the sabs, and quite rightly too. One of the things that really sickened me about hunting wasn't just the way they chase and kill the fox, it's the blooding of kids. Cutting off the dead fox's brush and rubbing the blood on the faces of children on their first hunt. Barbaric.

Did I just hear that the hunters put the Foxes blood on there childrens face?:shocked: if so then they should be locked up and throw away the key as there not right in the head Imo.

[soundslike]

You should see a henhouse after a fox has got in, killed them all for fun and eaten none of them.

So I take it the hunters eat the foxes they kill??

[soundslike]

they stink of piss, rummage through bins..make a hell of a noise at night when I'm on early shift..look ****ing mangy..

They aint basil ****ing brush you know.

Your description of a fox sounds very much like you are talking about an anti social person.

[fingers]

So I take it the hunters eat the foxes they kill??

Jay seemed to think they should!:dance:

[InOne]

Don't agree with Fox hunting, but still not a good reason to nominate him. He's an easy choice like people have said.

[fingers]

If it was a tribe in Africa or in the Amazon doing it, we'd excuse it and call it "cultural", but because it's in England, we call it barbaric.

Just like when Native American's kill buffallo, it's beautiful, or when eskimo's kill seals it's traditional, isn't it beautiful that they continue their traditions, but if white canadians kill seals it's barbaric.

When Canadians of ANY colour club baby seals to near death and then skin them alive - THAT is effing BARBARIC!

[Kazanne]

they stink of piss, rummage through bins..make a hell of a noise at night when I'm on early shift..look ****ing mangy..

They aint basil ****ing brush you know.

I thought you were talking about the local yobs on the lash every weekend, Foxes do not know what time it is so cannot be blamed for disturbing your sleep,and IF WE left there habitation intact instead of building on it,they would not be on the streets scavenging for food .

[Incensed]

It's an emotive subject and whilst I don't agree with the barbaric practice of hounds ripping foxes to pieces, we do need to control them. The urban fox population is growing with an estimated 10,000 foxes in London alone.

[Kazanne]

Did I just hear that the hunters put the Foxes blood on there childrens face?:shocked: if so then they should be locked up and throw away the key as there not right in the head Imo.

You are right JF,as you can imagine we had lots of hunts here in Shropshire(and still do if truth be known),infact the huntsmen gather here on Boxing Day in the town and people go to watch them,I have never been and never would,Brian Ferrys son was arrested for continuing a hunt in Shropshire.It IS barbaric and I think most animal lovers do,but not everyone likes animals I mean look what some people do to them,imo some people are devoid of compassion.

[Shaun]

Fox hunting is a much less disgusting habit than fake-tanning and fame-whoring.