Another record low audience as Big Brother drops below 1m viewers for first ever time

[Tom]

900,000 viewers for last nights show and its only week 2. I'm quite enjoying watching Channel 5 make a pigs ear of this :joker:

[JeanP!]

This is so sad :(

[Pyramid*]

I think that's a real shame - I'm enjoying this year more than the last few years and think they are doing a better job than Ch4 did for a long while.

Timeslots may not be the best, that's the problem.

[happybbfan]

0.9m (5.3%)
* all time low

Breakdown
22:15 - 0.9m (4.7%)
22:30 - 1.0m (5.5%)
22:45 - 0.9m (5.7%)
23:00 - 0.8m (5.3%)

[Stu]

At the end of the day people just don't care anymore.

[Tom]

At the end of the day people just don't care anymore.

Don't care about Big Brother or don't care about Channel 5's incompetence leading to such ratings?

[Barf_andotherthings]

At the end of the day, the sun goes down.

[Tom4784]

BB always does badly on Saturdays, It'd be more revealing if we knew the ratings for the rest of C5's programs so we could see what the number means in context.

[CharlieO]

Yea it was expected.

[Callum]

Just terrible and very sad. Not looking good for the future of Big Brother is it?

[Stu]

Don't care about Big Brother or don't care about Channel 5's incompetence leading to such ratings?
The first one.

You can come up with all the excuses you want but if the word Big Brother is attatched and it doesn't have the draw of some niche ****otard celebritys like how the likes of Jedward and Amy Childs or whatever made up for the Celebrity numbers then it's going to bomb. And I don't think a format change will do anything good. Honestly Big Brother is dead. Simple as. At least as being a big show.

[joeysteele]

BB always does badly on Saturdays, It'd be more revealing if we knew the ratings for the rest of C5's programs so we could see what the number means in context.

Agreed, I would like to see that too.

[Visage]

BB always does badly on Saturdays, It'd be more revealing if we knew the ratings for the rest of C5's programs so we could see what the number means in context.

Spot on.

[Tom]

The first one.

You can come up with all the excuses you want but if the word Big Brother is attatched and it doesn't have the draw of some niche ****otard celebritys like how the likes of Jedward and Amy Childs or whatever made up for the Celebrity numbers then it's going to bomb. And I don't think a format change will do anything good. Honestly Big Brother is dead. Simple as. At least as being a big show.

I think your post is more linked than you actually realise. Its lack of changes which have turned viewers away and killed BB. The main problem is that its come back too soon, it hadn't even been gone a year! Literally everything that Channel 5 shouldn't have done, they have done, and everything they should have done they haven't. Its their own fault for such a spectacular failing. If they left it a bit, maybe 2 or 3 years then BB could have came back quite strong but Channel 5 have just buried it after Channel 4 killed it.

[Maia]

Predicted this straight away last night when I found out it wasn't on til 10:15pm. It was to be expected, and it really is disappointing but there you go.

[Anglo]

We are enjoying Big Brother more than ever this time, all the innovations are good.

The editing is better than ever it was and we have to keep rewinding to see little background reactions. Last night, Mark mimicking Aden and Rebeckah hugging was a scream; Heaven massaging any eviction possibilities out of Tashie; Alex's face when Aaron asked her to go away. All gems.

The editors are managing to tell a few good stories without narration.

We absolutely loved, at Nominations, how Faye went in all prepared for blubbering with toilet paper. And she was the one who had talked all tough beforehand!

And it's always fun to see the trouble-makers cowering in the diary room like Jay did last night when being told off for the mattress going in the pool. "It was everybody else's fault." This so mirrors real life.

Just wish we could get Five Star on Freesat.

It's hard to understand why people would post on here such negative doom-laden comments as above, maybe they are Channel 4 employees?

The selection of housemates has been very good (not quite excellent) and having so many singles clearly leads to more spice.

Well done Channel 5.

[Stu]

Speak for yourself, chico.

And yeah all those points are true Tom.

[Tom]

We are enjoying Big Brother more than ever this time, all the innovations are good.

The editing is better than ever it was and we have to keep rewinding to see little background reactions. Last night, Mark mimicking Aden and Rebeckah hugging was a scream; Heaven massaging any eviction possibilities out of Tashie; Alex's face when Aaron asked her to go away. All gems.

The editors are managing to tell a few good stories without narration.

We absolutely loved, at Nominations, how Faye went in all prepared for blubbering with toilet paper. And she was the one who had talked all tough beforehand!

And it's always fun to see the trouble-makers cowering in the diary room like Jay did last night when being told off for the mattress going in the pool. "It was everybody else's fault." This so mirrors real life.

Just wish we could get Five Star on Freesat.

It's hard to understand why people would post on here such negative doom-laden comments as above, maybe they are Channel 4 employees?

The selection of housemates has been very good (not quite excellent) and having so many singles clearly leads to more spice.

Well done Channel 5.

Maybe you're a Channel 5 employee with that post :joker:

It would maybe mirror real life if the mirror was a plank of wood.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

We are enjoying Big Brother more than ever this time, all the innovations are good.

The editing is better than ever it was and we have to keep rewinding to see little background reactions. Last night, Mark mimicking Aden and Rebeckah hugging was a scream; Heaven massaging any eviction possibilities out of Tashie; Alex's face when Aaron asked her to go away. All gems.

The editors are managing to tell a few good stories without narration.

We absolutely loved, at Nominations, how Faye went in all prepared for blubbering with toilet paper. And she was the one who had talked all tough beforehand!

And it's always fun to see the trouble-makers cowering in the diary room like Jay did last night when being told off for the mattress going in the pool. "It was everybody else's fault." This so mirrors real life.

Just wish we could get Five Star on Freesat.

It's hard to understand why people would post on here such negative doom-laden comments as above, maybe they are Channel 4 employees?
The selection of housemates has been very good (not quite excellent) and having so many singles clearly leads to more spice.

Well done Channel 5.

Big Brother only pulled in 900,000 viewers last night there is just no way you can get anything positive out of that.

I never ever thought i would see BB drop below 1 million its such a shame to see it failing so hard because the show is the best one in years imo.

Channel 5 ****ed themselves and the fans in the arse by axing Live Feed and putting it on straight after CBB.

[fingers]

Channel 5 seem to think that they bought an audience as well as a show, well when you treat the audiences like dirt and ram "changes" down their throats it's to be expected that they will turn away from you, but hey, Desmond has deep pockets, what the hell does he care as long as he can milk made-up sensations for his downmarket press empire.

[Visage]

We are enjoying Big Brother more than ever this time, all the innovations are good.

The editing is better than ever it was and we have to keep rewinding to see little background reactions. Last night, Mark mimicking Aden and Rebeckah hugging was a scream; Heaven massaging any eviction possibilities out of Tashie; Alex's face when Aaron asked her to go away. All gems.

The editors are managing to tell a few good stories without narration.

We absolutely loved, at Nominations, how Faye went in all prepared for blubbering with toilet paper. And she was the one who had talked all tough beforehand!

And it's always fun to see the trouble-makers cowering in the diary room like Jay did last night when being told off for the mattress going in the pool. "It was everybody else's fault." This so mirrors real life.
Just wish we could get Five Star on Freesat.

It's hard to understand why people would post on here such negative doom-laden comments as above, maybe they are Channel 4 employees?

The selection of housemates has been very good (not quite excellent) and having so many singles clearly leads to more spice.

Well done Channel 5.

All great points especially the one involving Jay.

[arista]

Don't care about Big Brother or don't care about Channel 5's incompetence leading to such ratings?



Its Endemol that make it.



ratings go up and down
its normal.

10:15PM was a late slot due to a live boxing match before it.

Next Saturday on at 9PM

[DigitalSid]

Just terrible and very sad. Not looking good for the future of Big Brother is it?

No.

[Doogle]

Hmmm... so I'm guessing BB13 will be the last. :/

[arista]

Hmmm... so I'm guessing BB13 will be the last. :/


No

[Jords]

Its all about the timeslots, people cba waiting up on weekdays.

Its a shame because this series is really promising so far.

[fingers]

Its all about the timeslots, people cba waiting up on weekdays.

Its a shame because this series is really promising so far.

The diehard core fanbase obviously will watch wnenever it's on but the ratings are increasingly showing that that fanbase is way less than a million,:wavey:

[Jords]

The diehard core fanbase obviously will watch wnenever it's on but the ratings are increasingly showing that that fanbase is way less than a million,:wavey:

I disagree.

[Grimnir]

the ratings will continue to drop as well

channel 5 need to bring back live feed

otherwise it might be axed midway through

serves them ****in right too

[fingers]

I disagree.

about? point 1 or point 2?

[cub]

As I said all along they should have rested it for at least 2 years. Allowed people to miss it.

Greed has ruined a programme I used to enjoy and be addicted to for years.

Now it just seems dated, old fashioned and naff.

I take no pleasure in being proved right, but there's always a satisfaction in that.

Let's face it when they have to get Lauren Harries on to do a fashion spot something is seriously wrong.

[Gillian-73]

Such a shame, i'm really enjoying the show! it's been on at ten or just after all week bar eviction night, tonight they decide to put it on at 9 in direct competition with spooks and downton abbey, two very popular programmes! Tonights ratings will be dire too.

[fingers]

the ratings will continue to drop as well

channel 5 need to bring back live feed

otherwise it might be axed midway through

serves them ****in right too

...and it'd better be FREE, how many who have been shafted so far are going to throw more money at Desmond!:hugesmile:

[Visage]

As I said all along they should have rested it for at least 2 years. Allowed people to miss it.



I loved the fact we went straight into to BB on the back of CBB.

[Omah]

Predicted this straight away last night when I found out it wasn't on til 10:15pm. It was to be expected, and it really is disappointing but there you go.

14-09-2011, 12:44 PM

Blimey, at this rate, it'll be less than 1m on Saturday ..... ;)

I should have done the lottery, too ..... :laugh2:

[joeysteele]

I personally agree actually with Anglo, however I have been chatting to a family who live near to us students here and they are only watching it on and off, they are BB fans and they watched CBB completely but they say viewers now are celebrity obsessed in the main.

They think ordinary people don't work in long running programmes now,they pointed out that Dancing on Ice without celebrities in it would not be a success either like it is now.

This family,and I agreed with them feel it's impossible to attach to a housemate who you barely see because of such limited footage of them.
Maybe it is the celebrity BB that will remain and maybe on for longer in the future, CBB certainly was deemed a success for Channel 5.

Not a scientific result in any way, but if others are doing like the family I spoke to this morning and are only watching BB on and off,moreso on eviction nights only,while also watching a CBB series totally,well that may be becoming the norm for BB.

A much lower audience for BB but a much better one for CBB as with most other reality TV now.

[Parmy]

900,000 viewers for last nights show and its only week 2. I'm quite enjoying watching Channel 5 make a pigs ear of this :joker:

It always dips on a saturday night, I'm enjoying the series and couldn't really give a **** about viewing figures.Big brother is here to stay for a few years yet so wind your neck in sonny jim.

[starry]

No, ordinary people can still be interesting if the format is right. If you mix them with the kind of trashy format you expect in a celeb show then obviously it won't work. Of course there is part of the TV audience that only watches the celeb reality shows, there always has been.

[CharlieO]

It always dips on a saturday night, I'm enjoying the series and couldn't really give a **** about viewing figures.Big brother is here to stay for a few years yet so wind your neck in sonny jim.

Not necessarily, the contract could be broken if need be. If viewing figures get too low advertisers will pull out and then BB will go for good.

[Parmy]

Not necessarily, the contract could be broken if need be. If viewing figures get too low advertisers will pull out and then BB will go for good.

No way c5 would do that seeing as it's probably their biggest viewer rated show.:hugesmile:

[Shasown]

Not necessarily, the contract could be broken if need be. If viewing figures get too low advertisers will pull out and then BB will go for good.

Very true, all Channel 5 have paid for is the rights to broadcast and for the show to be produced, they dont actually have to air it.

As for sponsors and advertisers depends on how long the contract to air advertisements in line with BB programs is for and the payment schedule.

Be a bit of a waste of money for them but if viewing figures do fall significantly further, replacing the program with something else would certainly be considered.

[joeysteele]

Very true, all Channel 5 have paid for is the rights to broadcast and for the show to be produced, they dont actually have to air it.

As for sponsors and advertisers depends on how long the contract to air advertisements in line with BB programs is for and the payment schedule.

Be a bit of a waste of money for them but if viewing figures do fall significantly further, replacing the program with something else would certainly be considered.

They probably though haven't got or even got in the pipeline anything else that would pull in on average over 1 million viewers though.
Even on the current figures, BB is still one of the highest and often the highest thing watched on Channel 5.

[Benjamin]

They should have done what Australia did and leave BB for a few years then start it back up again. A lot of people have grown tired of the programme and C5 have not helped secure fans with the axing of LF and their odd editing style.

[David R]

They shouldn't have delayed it because of the boxing, even if people have to wait 15 mins those who are not die hard viewers will probably go off, do something else and not come back.

I swear sometimes Channel 5 forgets it has two other channels at their disposal!

[SimBrotherNetwork]

Good! Maybe it will make them buck there idea's up! I was such a massive fan of BB, and i watched all of CBB took me age's too get into it, then i watched the launch of BB and next episode of that, and i couldn't watch anymore, they have ruined BB! And i'm shocked with myself that i don't watch it anymore :(

[Pyramid*]

We are enjoying Big Brother more than ever this time, all the innovations are good.

The editing is better than ever it was and we have to keep rewinding to see little background reactions. Last night, Mark mimicking Aden and Rebeckah hugging was a scream; Heaven massaging any eviction possibilities out of Tashie; Alex's face when Aaron asked her to go away. All gems.

The editors are managing to tell a few good stories without narration.

We absolutely loved, at Nominations, how Faye went in all prepared for blubbering with toilet paper. And she was the one who had talked all tough beforehand!

And it's always fun to see the trouble-makers cowering in the diary room like Jay did last night when being told off for the mattress going in the pool. "It was everybody else's fault." This so mirrors real life.

Just wish we could get Five Star on Freesat.

It's hard to understand why people would post on here such negative doom-laden comments as above, maybe they are Channel 4 employees?

The selection of housemates has been very good (not quite excellent) and having so many singles clearly leads to more spice.

Well done Channel 5.

I agree with all of the above. It's a lot better that I've seen BB being in recent years - to the point that I am now making a point of watching it.

[fingers]

Advertising slots are costed on the estimated number of viewers - high numbers high cost, low numbers cheaper ads. I think it fair to say that if you're paying premium rates and those viewing figures tumble you are not going to be a very happy Bunny.

[D3vilish]

I don't think it helped that it was on quarter past 10 ? When, it use to be on at 9, then 10... Then just after X Factor, Channel Five need to get a solid time for the programme rather than just moving it around, Amount of times i thought i had missed it and put channel 5 on to see, and it had just started..

[daniel-lewis-1985]

No way c5 would do that seeing as it's probably their biggest viewer rated show.:hugesmile:

No its not.

[BringItOn]

I'm soo glad :) that's what they get for changing the format of the show :P

[vesavius]

10.15 is a pathetic time to put the show on, and the way C5 shunt it around to make way for other things can do nothing but damage it. A 'soap opera' show like this one requires a static slot to flourish.


This really is the best show in years so far, aside from no LF. Endemol should be congratulated, but C5 need shooting for their scheduling.

[armand.kay]

hopfully the officials will be much better *prays*

[Parmy]

No its not.

For that time slot it is........BY A COUNTRY MILE.

[Blog Rider]

Channel 5 have made the show even worst then it ever was on Channel 4

[Visage]

Channel 5 have made the show even worst then it ever was on Channel 4

How ?

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Tonights highlights are on at 9pm and are up against Downton Abbey, Spooks and Hes just not that into you on Channel 4.

Well done C5 you're doing a great job on allocating time slots :rolleyes:

[David R]

Tonights highlights are on at 9pm and are up against Downton Abbey, Spooks and Hes just not that into you on Channel 4.

:joker: This could be the night it drops to 500,000 or something. They are getting it all arse backwards... it could have been on 9:00 last night and 10:00 tonight. Screw the boxing.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

:joker: This could be the night it drops to 500,000 or something. They are getting it all arse backwards... it could have been on 9:00 last night and 10:00 tonight. Screw the boxing.

Not funny though is it when they are killing OUR show

[David R]

Not funny though is it when they are killing OUR show

Yeah I know but I'm laughing at how Channel 5 is bringing this all on themselves because they don't seem to be putting much effort into making it a success. They could do so much different with the format, tasks etc but its like they reprinted CH4's BB but with even less care and attention.

[joeysteele]

I know a lot of people who will be mssing BB tonight to watch Downton Abbey,I am not one of them but makes little sense to put BB on against that just coming back.

Downton Abbey has had masses of publicity too.

[fingers]

Channel 5 are slavishly following the usual american network formula, if you want to ditch a programme that you bought in error or simply want to get rid of, screw around with its air times then when the ratings drop you have an excuse to drop it.

BTW I don't think I'm too far out when I labelled this "Desmond's Folly"

[Visage]

My mum and sister are both big fans of BB they've never missed a show, however because it's shown late (for them) they both watch on catch-up the following afternoon.

I've never watched an episode of BB live in nearly 5 years, I always sky+ my shows and watch them at my own leisure.

I wonder how many other viewers watch the show via another option.

[tweetypiebabe1]

It was a SATURDAY night. Isn't that like one of the worse nights. Especially during this time of year when they have to battle against
X Factor
Red or Black
the Jonathon Ross Show
Xtra Factor

and whatever else comes on TV.

Remember as well, Big Brother isn't normally on during this time of the year. By now they would've crowned the winner and be preparing for CBB. That also has a lot to do with it especially since they're fighting with shows like XFactor. I don't know if they'll be on when I'm a Celebrity comes out but then they'll have that to war with as well.

[DanielLuis]

It always dips on a saturday night, I'm enjoying the series and couldn't really give a **** about viewing figures.Big brother is here to stay for a few years yet so wind your neck in sonny jim.

BB wont stay here for long if the viewing figures are low. Thats way they care.

[michael21]

At the end of the day people just don't care anymore.

well i watch the TNA PPV last night i sure it got big rating

[David R]

I think another reason why the rating are quite poor is the lack of the 5HD channel on freeview HD. If you think about it most people would rather watch a prime time program in HD if they have the ability to and seeing as BB 2011 was the first one to be filmed in HD its ludicrous to have not had 5HD on freeview in preparation.

All the other programs it is going up against are on Freeview HD channels (things like Downton Abbey) so how on earth can it compete!

[Jordan.]

If they don't move the time slot to 9pm from now on they're fools. When it was on
straight after XF it was doing fine because it took a portion of their viewers.

We'll see if tonight proves this.

[Nikkos]

Get together 14 wannabes and this is what happens!

[CharlieO]

There is no point making excuses for its time slot. They promised Biggest Brother Ever and that should have been no matter the competition. Everyone needs to face the fact Channel 5 mucked up this series.

[Omah]

I don't think I'm too far out when I labelled this "Desmond's Folly"

:laugh2:

[Parmy]

There is no point making excuses for its time slot. They promised Biggest Brother Ever and that should have been no matter the competition. Everyone needs to face the fact Channel 5 mucked up this series.

:joker: we are only one week in, lmao.:joker:

[mizzy25]

i love it but its on too late 4 me and the eviction show on fri 11pm is ridic!!!!

[CharlieO]

:joker: we are only one week in, lmao.:joker:

Precisely! One week in and people are already bored and it had stooped to an all time low. Whats going to happen after another seven weeks??

[Parmy]

Precisely! One week in and people are already bored and it had stooped to an all time low. Whats going to happen after another seven weeks??

people can't wait to moan about it...every decent bb fan knows it takes about 4 weeks until people sort themselves out..the first few weeks are always slow, this one however has been pretty decent in comparison..How do you get this, "people are already bored" info from..!

[Omah]

Precisely! One week in and people are already bored and it had stooped to an all time low. Whats going to happen after another seven weeks??

It'll be pulled from the schedules ..... ;)

[CharlieO]

people can't wait to moan about it...every decent bb fan knows it takes about 4 weeks until people sort themselves out..the first few weeks are always slow, this one however has been pretty decent in comparison..How do you get this, "people are already bored" info from..!

An all time low in BB ratings is where I got it from. And please explain to me how this is Big Brother in anyway other than name?

[Patrick]

To think John James and Josie snuggling and whispering every night attracted more viewers than Housemates pissed and trashing the house and bringing the show back to its 2004/2005 days :bored:

I put it down to CBB being considered the second coming in alot of fans eyes, and everyone acting like CBB8 was amazing (which it was but I prefer BB12 now, I think) but yeah narrow minded bastards just assumed because Jedward and Kerry are not here, the show sucks.

But really even at that it shouldnt be THIS low, It's C5's own fault and it proves that we Will get LF next year.

[Patrick]

There is no point making excuses for its time slot. They promised Biggest Brother Ever and that should have been no matter the competition. Everyone needs to face the fact Channel 5 mucked up this series.

Can you just please leave?

Actually go to General Chat or something, you should be banned from this section.
Everyone is enjoying BB12, even the little rainclouds who dissed CBB8 like it. Stop ****ing moaning over every little thing, we get it - You dont like it, brilliant to know.

You have went from being a decent lad and a good member to someone who ruins every thread with negative bollocks on a daily basis!!

['Conor]

Wouldn't be having this problem if they had of left BB12 till January

[Patrick]

They should of just put it on in June FFS, if they do CBB9 in January aswell it will be a disaster.

OVERKILL is the main problem.

[CharlieO]

Can you just please leave?

Actually go to General Chat or something, you should be banned from this section.
Everyone is enjoying BB12, even the little rainclouds who dissed CBB8 like it. Stop ****ing moaning over every little thing, we get it - You dont like it, brilliant to know.

You have went from being a decent lad and a good member to someone who ruins every thread with negative bollocks on a daily basis!!

No I can't.

And how?? I do not comment on the housemates or show. I comment on facts that I know e.g the ratings, which clearly show this series is not fairing well.

[JohnnyBB]

Im Sorry i beleaved they did the right thing putting celebrity big brother on before the main big brother, its not an over kill i dont think i dont think it would have got the raitings its getting now if celeb bb wasent on, i think raiting would have been worst 5 million celeb bb kicked off with, it proves pepole are still hungry for big brother, channel 5 are just doing the rong things!

[MeMyselfAndI]

Can you just please leave?

Actually go to General Chat or something, you should be banned from this section.
Everyone is enjoying BB12, even the little rainclouds who dissed CBB8 like it. Stop ****ing moaning over every little thing, we get it - You dont like it, brilliant to know.

You have went from being a decent lad and a good member to someone who ruins every thread with negative bollocks on a daily basis!!

:worship: Exactly my thoughts
I swear he doesn't even watch the show :rolleyes:

[Parmy]

An all time low in BB ratings is where I got it from. And please explain to me how this is Big Brother in anyway other than name?

I'm not the one needing to explain anything.

Has it ever occured to you people go out on a saturday night.:joker:

[Omah]

I'm not the one needing to explain anything.

Has it ever occured to you people go out on a saturday night.:joker:

Recording options are available to most viewers ..... ;)

[Parmy]

Recording options are available to most viewers ..... ;)

Which don't register in a viewer count.:nono:

[CharlieO]

:worship: Exactly my thoughts
I swear he doesn't even watch the show :rolleyes:

No I don't and I have admitted that several times but its because I can't, not because I have chosen not to. However my viewing of the show doesn't restrict me in anyway to comment about ratings. Ratings is the only thing important to Channel 5 so why can I not comment on them?

I'm not the one needing to explain anything.

Has it ever occured to you people go out on a saturday night.:joker:

Dead.

[Parmy]

No I don't and I have admitted that several times but its because I can't, not because I have chosen not to. However my viewing of the show doesn't restrict me in anyway to comment about ratings. Ratings is the only thing important to Channel 5 so why can I not comment on them?



Dead.

don't get you!

[Parmy]

why can't you watch it?

['Conor]

i agree that it's overkill

[fingers]

why can't you watch it?

He already said that he is in boarding school with one communal tv and his internet connection is too slow to allow streaming.

[Parmy]

He already said that he is in boarding school with one communal tv and his internet connection is too slow to allow streaming.

oh, that old chestnut eh.:sleep:

[Omah]

Which don't register in a viewer count.:nono:

Yes they do :

VCR, DVDR, PVR playback and "catch-up" VOD services is reported if it takes place within 7 days of the original broadcast. This viewing (known as timeshift) is then added to the live data to produce the final, minute-by-minute consolidated audience, available 8 days after the original transmission date. Consolidated data is the ‘BARB Gold Standard’ that is used by the industry to report and trade on.

http://www.barb.co.uk/about/faq

:thumbs:

[CharlieO]

oh, that old chestnut eh.:sleep:

You asked.

[Parmy]

Yes they do :



http://www.barb.co.uk/about/faq

:thumbs:

so we don't know the final viewing figure yet then, which makes this thread a complete waste of time.:joker:

[Parmy]

You asked.

Can't you get your turn on the telly then, seeing as it's communal?

[CharlieO]

Can't you get your turn on the telly then, seeing as it's communal?

I could but I wouldn't get it every night nor do I really have a desire to go through that much trouble just to watch Channel 5.

[Omah]

so we don't know the final viewing figure yet then, which makes this thread a complete waste of time.:joker:

I think we may safely assume that another 1,000,000 viewers are not preparing to view Saturdays BB on "time-shift" in the next few days ..... :laugh3:

[rusticgal]

I am loving this BB... an interesting selection of people but just not getting enough of it. Lets see some LF going even if its for a couple of hours after the edited show.As I said I am loving the show but feel I am only seeing what they want us to see...I feel cheated out of the whole concept of BB by not having ANY LF...

[fingers]

I think we may safely assume that another 1,000,000 viewers are not preparing to view Saturdays BB on "time-shift" in the next few days ..... :laugh3:

I think we can safely assume that not even another thousand will be added to that dismal figure:hugesmile:

[billy123]

They should of just put it on in June FFS, if they do CBB9 in January aswell it will be a disaster.

OVERKILL is the main problem.
We have only had 4 weeks of big brother in the last year how the hell is that overkill?????????????
Its the dumbed down and childish editing combined with them axing the live feed that has caused it to be a complete flop and lets not mince around pretending otherwise big brother has flopped on C5.

[Parmy]

I think we may safely assume that another 1,000,000 viewers are not preparing to view Saturdays BB on "time-shift" in the next few days ..... :laugh3:

It wouldn't need to be that many though, just a percentage of the people with the special box things.

[Jordan.]

An all time low in BB ratings is where I got it from. And please explain to me how this is Big Brother in anyway other than name?

Same Launch
Same Housemates
Same Nominations
Same Evictions
Same Theme Tune
Same Eye Logo
Same Narrator
Same Overall Format

How this is NOT Big Brother? Nothing major has changed.

[Parmy]

I could but I wouldn't get it every night nor do I really have a desire to go through that much trouble just to watch Channel 5.

would you if it was c4?

[MeMyselfAndI]

Same Launch
Same Housemates
Same Nominations
Same Evictions
Same Theme Tune
Same Eye Logo
Same Narrator
Same Overall Format

How this is NOT Big Brother? Nothing major has changed.

Jordan I wouldn't waste your breath.

[BigBrotherfan4ever]

I am loving this BB... an interesting selection of people but just not getting enough of it. Lets see some LF going even if its for a couple of hours after the edited show.As I said I am loving the show but feel I am only seeing what they want us to see...I feel cheated out of the whole concept of BB by not having ANY LF...

I feel the same as you rusticgal, im loving this series, but im just really missing the LF, if they brought that back that would be the icing on cake, & pretty certain viewing figures would go up.

[CharlieO]

would you if it was c4?

Not necessarily, but if it had live feed, stuck to the original concept and had a decent diversity of housemates then I would make more of an effort.

[CharlieO]

Same Launch
Same Housemates
Same Nominations
Same Evictions
Same Theme Tune
Same Eye Logo
Same Narrator
Same Overall Format

How this is NOT Big Brother? Nothing major has changed.

Looking deeper than that I meant. Conceptually.
Plus the bold is questionable anyway.

[MeMyselfAndI]

The Nominations isn't questionable it's the same.
The eye isn't quesitonable.. It's different every year
It's the same Narrator.. just a slightly different script
The format still exists.. Just differences like Immunity which BB11 basically had.(save/replace)
The Evictions are the same..
The Housemates are always different but it is the same types. Its very BB5 as in fun wise.

[CharlieO]

The Nominations isn't questionable it's the same.
The eye isn't quesitonable.. It's different every year
It's the same Narrator.. just a slightly different script
The format still exists.. Just differences like Immunity which BB11 basically had.(save/replace)
The Evictions are the same..
The Housemates are always different but it is the same types. Its very BB5 as in fun wise.

Nominations - Immunity = A difference.
Eye - Different template = A difference.
Narrator - (Basing on CBB9) No point in even being there but more of a conceptual thing = A difference.
Format - People can leave the house and come back (yes I know BB10 and 11 hated it then too) = A difference.
Evictions - Have not seen but CBB9 were not at all the same.
Housemates - No diversity only young TOWIE like people.

[Jordan.]

Jordan I wouldn't waste your breath.

I didn't want to but i'm bored of people acting like this is some horrible show that is nothing like BB. When it has even less changes than BB11 did (which no one moaned about)

Before it launched people were saying it needed to change. Now they're crying because the producers made some minor changes.

Looking deeper than that I meant. Conceptually.
Plus the bold is questionable anyway.

You asked how this was BB other than in name, I listed reasons. Can't exactly look into that any deeper...

If you can list what is so majorly different then I may understand better?

[Parmy]

Not necessarily, but if it had live feed, stuck to the original concept and had a decent diversity of housemates then I would make more of an effort.

Ah the live feed issue.Well, correct me if I'm wrong but you seem to be blaming c5 for a lot of things is the lack of live feed one of them? As it was c4 last year who took away the live feed for tv.

as for the diversity of housemates, how on earth could you possibly know what they are like if you don't even watch! It is also to early to judge the depth of each housemates personality as they are all tip toeing around each other at the moment judging their fellow housemates themselves.

As for sticking to the original concept, the only thing I can see that has changed is a little bit of music has been added to the h/l show which helps in cutting out a lot of shrieking and housemates chattering bollocks due to excitement,and of course the way we vote to save rather than evict which is something most fans have been shouting out to happen for a few years now due to the wackier housemates going to early.

[MeMyselfAndI]

Omg you pick like slight differences & over exaggerate it..
This is Big Brother.

[coralqueen]

as stated in bbspy.........Big Brother’s ratings have dropped below seven figures for the first time in a main series, with last night’s show attracting only 925,000 viewers.
take heed, 9pm good time, also get some grown ups put in... just leave in arron, mark, and louise.... im giving it till friday if no better im turning off aswell...

[Jordan.]

Nominations - Immunity = A difference.
Eye - Different template = A difference.
Narrator - (Basing on CBB9) No point in even being there but more of a conceptual thing = A difference.
Format - People can leave the house and come back (yes I know BB10 and 11 hated it then too) = A difference.
Evictions - Have not seen but CBB9 were not at all the same.
Housemates - No diversity only young TOWIE like people.

Nominations - BB11 has S&R which is far worse than immunity tasks because it was the nominated people putting whoever they wanted up. This is far better having the task before noms. It adds competion to the show.

Eye - Big deal, BB isn't the only tv show to change their logo after a decade of having the same. Be thankful its still an eye.

Narrator - Yeah he overdid it at the start. He's okay now. Again not really a big deal.

Format - No one has left the house so far.

Evictions - They were all the same.

Housemates - If you were actually watching you'd realise it's one of the best lineups in years. There's been more drama in the first week than the whole of BB11.

[CharlieO]

You asked how this was BB other than in name, I listed reasons. Can't exactly look into that any deeper...

If you can list what is so majorly different then I may understand better?

Yes you can look deeper. As in conceptually, Orwellian and 1984.
There is no concept it is reality tv for the sake of reality tv. No direction, no concept.

[billy123]

Pull the plug on it please c5 it is crap.

[fingers]

Yes you can look deeper. As in conceptually, Orwellian and 1984.
There is no concept it is reality tv for the sake of reality tv. No direction, no concept.

Some people ought to look up "1984" for the original concept, it is now long gone.:joker:

[CharlieO]

Nominations - BB11 has S&R which is far worse than immunity tasks because it was the nominated people putting whoever they wanted up. This is far better having the task before noms. It adds competion to the show.

Eye - Big deal, BB isn't the only tv show to change their logo after a decade of having the same. Be thankful its still an eye.

Narrator - Yeah he overdid it at the start. He's okay now. Again not really a big deal.

Format - No one has left the house so far.

Evictions - They were all the same.

Housemates - If you were actually watching you'd realise it's one of the best lineups in years. There's been more drama in the first week than the whole of BB11.

See you have to compare it to BB11. BB11 was not very much Big Brother other than in name.

I am talking about the original concept and roots of the show. I am not on here as a channel 4 lover or anything. They did a lot wrong too in the later years but there was always an element of the concept left (not really including BB11, but as it was last it was given a pardon). This channel 5 programme lacks everything that was original about BB.

[Jordan.]

Yes you can look deeper. As in conceptually, Orwellian and 1984.
There is no concept it is reality tv for the sake of reality tv. No direction, no concept.

Yeah the concept of people being under constant surveillance.

I forgot this year they stop filming to let the housemates leave for a fag break and go out to the local shops.

[MeMyselfAndI]

See you have to compare it to BB11. BB11 was not very much Big Brother other than in name.

I am talking about the original concept and roots of the show. I am not on here as a channel 4 lover or anything. They did a lot wrong too in the later years but there was always an element of the concept left (not really including BB11, but as it was last it was given a pardon). This channel 5 programme lacks everything that was original about BB.

He only compared it to BB11 twice (and one was saying how the Housemates were so much better..), but you ignored like the other 4 points. Also people weren't anywhere near as much complaining for BB11 than now, just because of the channel and its slightly different.

Also Immunity is good, and its just adding something to the show, the concept has not changed one bit :bored:

[Patrick]

Omg you pick like slight differences & over exaggerate it..
This is Big Brother

.com

[Locke.]

Back above 1.5 million for tonight

[Stu]

Yeah the concept of people being under constant surveillance.
... by the public. Which they no longer are.

[CharlieO]

Well to me there was more to Big Brother than just a generic tv show, its originality made it great. Clearly you don't agree which is fine but I watched for different reasons to most youths. I apologise I am not impressed with a house filled with attention seeking bimbos with no real depth and a show that not lives up to its trashy reputation more than ever.

[Omah]

I think we can safely assume that not even another thousand will be added to that dismal figure:hugesmile:

:joker:

[Jordan.]

See you have to compare it to BB11. BB11 was not very much Big Brother other than in name.

I am talking about the original concept and roots of the show. I am not on here as a channel 4 lover or anything. They did a lot wrong too in the later years but there was always an element of the concept left (not really including BB11, but as it was last it was given a pardon). This channel 5 programme lacks everything that was original about BB.

FFS how was it BB in another name? It had a few changes. TV SHOWS MAKE CHANGES. It still followed the same format, it wasn't a completly new show stealing Big Brothers name.

C5 isn't lacking anything, they've tried breathing life into a dead format and it's failed. 'Fans' complaining and constantly putting it down is not helping.

[CharlieO]

FFS how was it BB in another name? It had a few changes. TV SHOWS MAKE CHANGES. It still followed the same format, it wasn't a completly new show stealing Big Brothers name.

C5 isn't lacking anything, they've tried breathing life into a dead format and it's failed. 'Fans' complaining and constantly putting it down is not helping.

I am not a 'fan' of this programme people now call 'Big Brother'.

[Jordan.]

I am not a 'fan' of this programme people now call 'Big Brother'.

So you're just part of the annoyance on here who stick around for no other reason than to slag it off. Well done.

[Omah]

It wouldn't need to be that many though, just a percentage of the people with the special box things.

I think we can safely assume that it won't be that many ..... I predict 27, i.e. 0.00003% ..... :spin:

[Parmy]

I think we can safely assume that it won't be that many ..... I predict 27, i.e. 0.00003% ..... :spin:

:sleep:
ONE SHOULD NEVER ASSUME ANYTHING.

[CharlieO]

So you're just part of the annoyance on here who stick around for no other reason than to slag it off. Well done.

No I stick around because I joined before the C5 series was even announced so never even came on here with the intention to discuss live BB. I joined and found it an enjoyable place to post about a diverse number of topics. So why should I leave because I don't like a programme that the original site was never even set up about in the first place?

[Stu]

'The Annoyance' :laugh2:.

Steady on. Christ almighty. If people not liking the show bothers you that bad I'd just shove them on ignore or not get into lengthy debates with them. It's not as if the lad is ruining highlight discussion threads.

[Parmy]

No I stick around because I joined before the C5 series was even announced so never even came on here with the intention to discuss live BB. I joined and found it an enjoyable place to post about a diverse number of topics. So why should I leave because I don't like a programme that the original site was never even set up about in the first place?

Funny name for a site that wasn't set up to be about big brother!:joker:

I'm away to bed anyway, got work in the morning..oh and yes, I'm recording bb to watch after work tomorrow.

[Locke.]

So you're just part of the annoyance on here who stick around for no other reason than to slag it off. Well done.

Nothing better to do at boarding school http://i55.tinypic.com/2v31p8k.gif

[billy123]

Too many little "fan boi's" with their head in the sand C5 were hoping to find another 2 million gimps that would watch it regardless of how pathetic it became.
fortunately most people have more sense and have moved on just like jeff ford suggested they should.

[Visage]

No I stick around because I joined before the C5 series was even announced so never even came on here with the intention to discuss live BB. I joined and found it an enjoyable place to post about a diverse number of topics. So why should I leave because I don't like a programme that the original site was never even set up about in the first place?

Are you watching the new series ?

[Parmy]

Too many little "fan boi's" with their head in the sand C5 were hoping to find another 2 million gimps that would watch it regardless of how pathetic it became.
fortunately most people have more sense and have moved on just like jeff ford suggested they should.

Says the gimpoid advertising a bb radio show...lol my ****ing hat off.

[Patrick]

A matter of opinion. I think it's one of the worst lineups in the shows history. It's like a house full of people from TiBB.



If that was true, it would be the best series in history.

Because we all know if they put the right mix of people from here in Big Brother - it would be brilliant.

[CharlieO]

Are you watching the new series ?

No.

[billy123]

Says the gimpoid advertising a bb radio show...lol my ****ing hat off.Awww diddums!

http://www.mama-knows.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/temper-tantrum-251x300.jpg

GROW UP!

[Parmy]

Awww diddums!

http://www.mama-knows.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/temper-tantrum-251x300.jpg

Move on now, jeff said!:joker:

[CharlieO]

If that was true, it would be the best series in history.

Because we all know if they put the right mix of people from here in Big Brother - it would be brilliant.

No it wouldn't. People when behind keyboards are amazingly different. I'll admit I am.

[Stu]

If that was true, it would be the best series in history.

Because we all know if they put the right mix of people from here in Big Brother - it would be brilliant.
I wouldn't for a second assume the public would give a damn one way or another about crazy us. Most of us lead tragically boring lives spent indoors in front of a monitor.

[Jordan.]

No I stick around because I joined before the C5 series was even announced so never even came on here with the intention to discuss live BB. I joined and found it an enjoyable place to post about a diverse number of topics. So why should I leave because I don't like a programme that the original site was never even set up about in the first place?

I never asked you to leave the site :crazy:

The BB forum. If you don't like BB and have no intention of doing anything but slag it off why don't you go to all these over enjoyable diverse topics you described.

[Doogle]

Not everyone is different :tongue:

But if the real Scott was in the house I think he'd be boringg.

[billy123]

Move on now, jeff said!:joker:I have son i already have just like most people.
C5 snubbed their audience and thats why they have a complete flop on their hands. :joker::joker:

[CharlieO]

I never asked you to leave the site :crazy:

The BB forum. If you don't like BB and have no intention of doing anything but slag it off why don't you go to all these over enjoyable diverse topics you described.

I don't only have the intention to slag it off. I do not complain for the sake of it. I commented in a thread which I could because one doesn't need to view the show to comment on ratings. If I was going to be negative for the sake of it I would go in all the housemate threads and comment. But I don't because I know its not my place as I do not view. I was just stating the fact there is no point making excuses when others asked for more of my opinions, so as one would, I stated them.

And to say you 'stick around' is implying that you want us 'annoyance' off the forum.

[Visage]

No.


I asked because of this post you made.

No I stick around because I joined before the C5 series was even announced so never even came on here with the intention to discuss live BB. I joined and found it an enjoyable place to post about a diverse number of topics. So why should I leave because I don't like a programme that the original site was never even set up about in the first place?

I don't think anyone is suggesting you leave TiBB for good, I think it's more around why you're posting in the C5BB forum about a show you don't even watch. What is it you're looking for ? I don't mean to sound rude with you, just trying to understand why you're discussing a show that you no longer watch.

You've said you're not a fan of the programme, yet you seem to be making negative comments with others who are trying to enjoy the show.

[CharlieO]

I asked because of this post you made.



I don't think anyone is suggesting you leave TiBB for good, I think it's more around why you're posting in the C5BB forum about a show you don't even watch. What is it you're looking for ? I don't mean to sound rude with you, just trying to understand why you're discussing a show that you no longer watch.

You've said you're not a fan of the programme, yet you seem to be making negative comments with others who are trying to enjoy the show.

Because I watched CBB8 and as you will see I do not plague areas with negativity just to lower peoples spirits or otherwise I would in lots of threads, but I don't. I did it in one thread about ratings where the fact I do not watch the show hinders me in no way from commenting.

[Parmy]

I have son i already have just like most people.
C5 snubbed their audience and thats why they have a complete flop on their hands. :joker::joker:

How has c5 snubbed their audience!! It looks like it's playing right into their audiences hands with the age group they have in!!!But well, no real point discussing bb with someone who doesn't bother to watch it, yet still thinks they have the knowledge of how the show is going.:joker:That to me is laughable, really laughable.Oh I forgot, Jeff said eh!.:crazy:

[Patrick]

I wouldn't for a second assume the public would give a damn one way or another about crazy us. Most of us lead tragically boring lives spent indoors in front of a monitor.

Yeah but if you think about it, we're all people - we are civilians.
I'm not saying it would be a great idea to host a 'TiBB Special' series on C5 for us - but even if TiBB didn't exist and some of us ended up in that house, it would make for interesting TV.

It obviously depends on what members though, I mean who would want to watch the moderators or people like Michael125, lolastex or some of those dullards in the house?

No it wouldn't. People when behind keyboards are amazingly different. I'll admit I am.

Some people are yes.

[Parmy]

I don't only have the intention to slag it off. I do not complain for the sake of it. I commented in a thread which I could because one doesn't need to view the show to comment on ratings. If I was going to be negative for the sake of it I would go in all the housemate threads and comment. But I don't because I know its not my place as I do not view. I was just stating the fact there is no point making excuses when others asked for more of my opinions, so as one would, I stated them.

And to say you 'stick around' is implying that you want us 'annoyance' off the forum.

To be fair though, you did go on to comment on how trashy and lacking in depth it had become..which has to be either a wild guess in the dark or someone like jeff must have said seeing as you havn't watched this series!

[CharlieO]

To be fair though, you did go on to comment on how trashy and lacking in depth it had become..which has to be either a wild guess in the dark or someone like jeff must have said seeing as you havn't watched this series!

I have seen some of the online clips (so have some judgement as to house characters) and its not exactly rocket science to predict a dull, shallow series when you put the people that they have in there.

[CharlieO]

Yeah but if you think about it, we're all people - we are civilians.
I'm not saying it would be a great idea to host a 'TiBB Special' series on C5 for us - but even if TiBB didn't exist and some of us ended up in that house, it would make for interesting TV.

It obviously depends on what members though, I mean who would want to watch the moderators or people like Michael125, lolastex or some of those dullards in the house?



Some people are yes.

I think you would find that most people are. Even you. You are most likely on the top of the scale though.

[Stu]

We'll never agree Patrick. I just absoloutely loath this suggestion that boy we're so awesome and keen that we would make for a great Big Brother!

It's nauseating.

[Ramsay]

Such a whitey

[joeysteele]

I'm trying to imagine a BB house on TV full of TIBB members,I think that would make fantastic viewing, many,including myself,sometimes get wound up at the smallest things,mostly keeping polite about most disagreements though,just imagine a cross section of us unleashed in the BB house together though.
What viewing that would be.I know the people I would like to be in the house with, not all ones I agree with either. I think it would be compulsive viewing.

I'm going to be an optimist,to me, the glass is still half full as to BB yet and I feel sure that Channel 5 will make significant changes to it next year,by way of more footage or live feed, CBB will be the launch pad again but with better celebrities this time and I expect and hope that the ratings will rise a great deal during next years BB.

I am not going to worry as to the ratings for this year but I do think they have good housemates and it's a pity the ratings are lower,they just needed to put that bit more planning into the series especially to much more footage being made available.

[Omah]

:sleep:
ONE SHOULD NEVER ASSUME ANYTHING.

Yes, one should ..... :eureka:

[emmetmcl]

Cue a mass eviction and/or a load of new housemates entering.

[Pyramid*]

Cue a mass eviction and/or a load of new housemates entering.


I'm not entirely sure if I'm in favour of that or not. It's been tried and just as the viewers are getting a handle on who is who, what they are like, are they changing, are masks slipping - it starts all over again.

Plus, the one who come in inevitable have seen how others are being portrayed, who is popular, who is not. It's happened every time new hms are brought it - look how that upped the gears for the JJJ fauxmance last year - and it completely ruined the show (imo....obviously).

[Harry!]

To be fair I do want it on at 9pm, 10pm is too late and I have college and it is tiring.

[Tom]

Most people on TIBB are probably keyboard warriors, if people from here were put into the BB house it would be BB4: Childrens Special.

[rk3388]

:( this is sad news

[daniel-lewis-1985]

I think tonights show will probably be under 1 million aswell.

To much competition on BBC1 and ITV even on C4

[Parmy]

I have seen some of the online clips (so have some judgement as to house characters) and its not exactly rocket science to predict a dull, shallow series when you put the people that they have in there.

Why not give us a paragraph about each housemate then..let us know what you think of them and their personalities, because I think it's ridiculous that you can judge them from "some 30sec-2min online clips..I've been watching for a week and a bit now as well as catching up on facebook and I'm still confused about most of them.

[fingers]

I think tonights show will probably be under 1 million aswell.

To much competition on BBC1 and ITV even on C4

"Chickens" eating popcorn for the major part of the show wasn't likely to set the heather on fire!:joker:

[David R]

Considering it was meant to go up against Spooks and Downtown Abbey they didn't exactly bring the house down with captivating TV!

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Considering it was meant to go up against Spooks and Downtown Abbey they didn't exactly bring the house down with captivating TV!

I know. Tonights episode was so boring i did my washing and just had it on in the background after the 1st half.

[CharlieO]

Why not give us a paragraph about each housemate then..let us know what you think of them and their personalities, because I think it's ridiculous that you can judge them from "some 30sec-2min online clips..I've been watching for a week and a bit now as well as catching up on facebook and I'm still confused about most of them.

ALL YOU NEGROZ POP YOUR PUSAAY LIKE DIS!

/Capitals

[Beastie]

It's a shame about the lack of viewers because I am enjoying the series.

LOOK.. IT'S CHUFFIN LIVE FEED!!

Yes I know.. if live feed comes back.. yes not many will watch it. But I think the audience like to know that it's there. Most people do watch a bit of it a day and the hardcore fans will keep watching it!!

It seems that housemates go to bed at 1am anyway. They would play more of a game if they knew live feed was on 24 7. They wouldn't be going to bed at that time when they know they can play up the camera and be entertaining.

If not 24 7 live feed.. please just give us some live feed. Or if they are being sarky bastards about watching the housemates sleep.. just don't have live feed between the hours of 2am and 10am.

45 minutes of edited footage is not enough! :(

Look.. BB went down after they axed 24 7 live feed for bb10. The ship was sinking and still sinking when they brought back live feed for bb11. It was too late!!

But this series is a decent series. Please bring back live feed :(

[Beastie]

Oh by the way.. I prefer BB on at 10pm. I finish work at 10pm. So really I would love it on later because I have to watch it on repeat otherwise.

BB is an adults show after all! If people are complaining it's on too late you shouldn't be watching it anyways ;)

[fingers]

It's a shame about the lack of viewers because I am enjoying the series.

LOOK.. IT'S CHUFFIN LIVE FEED!!

Yes I know.. if live feed comes back.. yes not many will watch it. But I think the audience like to know that it's there. Most people do watch a bit of it a day and the hardcore fans will keep watching it!!

It seems that housemates go to bed at 1am anyway. They would play more of a game if they knew live feed was on 24 7. They wouldn't be going to bed at that time when they know they can play up the camera and be entertaining.

If not 24 7 live feed.. please just give us some live feed. Or if they are being sarky bastards about watching the housemates sleep.. just don't have live feed between the hours of 2am and 10am.

45 minutes of edited footage is not enough! :(

Look.. BB went down after they axed 24 7 live feed for bb10. The ship was sinking and still sinking when they brought back live feed for bb11. It was too late!!

But this series is a decent series. Please bring back live feed :(

It is probably far too late to save this series with LF, they have already ditched tens of thousands of viewers who, in all probability, won't be back.
They may as well all don their life jackets as the ship slides to its doom underneath them.:xyxwave:

[Beastie]

It is probably far too late to save this series with LF, they have already ditched tens of thousands of viewers who, in all probability, won't be back.
They may as well all don their life jackets as the ship slides to its doom underneath them.:xyxwave:

True. After CBB8 they should have had a big announcement. "Live Feed is back for BB12". Then I guarantee fans would have been happy and the ratings wouldn't have dropped below 1 million!

Think they will learn their lesson and bring live feed back next year.

A shame really. I would love it NOW please! :)

[fruit_cake]

I don't think the empty headed talent free winners have helped the show, Brian, Sophie, Josie etc

[joeysteele]

I do know of a lot of people who watch BB but watched Downtown Abbey last night, they are going to watch the repeat of the highlights show today as to BB.

Bad move to put it on against Downton Abbey,I am amazed at how many people love that programme.

[Marc]

Ratings are ratings. Its not like they'll cancel it mid way through

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Ratings are ratings. Its not like they'll cancel it mid way through

Not as simple as that.

If the ratings carry on like this then it could be the end of BB.

[karezza]

I have enjoyed every episode on C5.

[Chuck]

^^ Me too. :L

[joeysteele]

I hae too and I never watch in on my own anyway there are always between 4 and 10 others watching it with me and they all really love it too on Channel 5.

[Marc]

Not as simple as that.

If the ratings carry on like this then it could be the end of BB.

I know that. It wouldn't be a bad thing if it was cancelled IMO

[CaudleHalbard]

By contrast, these were the ratings for:

Downton Abbey: 9.3 million
Spooks: 4.6 million

Looks like BB almost does not exist for the great majority of the viewing public. This will presumably have a knock-on effect on voting numbers and the revenue drawn from that.

[David R]

What was the ratings for the show last night then?

Downton's figures are pretty impressive as usual.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

I know that. It wouldn't be a bad thing if it was cancelled IMO

So you wouldnt mind if Big Brother never came back to our screens?

[daniel-lewis-1985]

What was the ratings for the show last night then?

Downton's figures are pretty impressive as usual.

Go to the ratings thread :)

[Marc]

So you wouldnt mind if Big Brother never came back to our screens?

Nope. I wouldn't mind.

I fell out of love with it a little during BB11 and now I want a divorce.

[CharlieO]

I know that. It wouldn't be a bad thing if it was cancelled IMO

[2]

[Marc]

:laugh: Charlie I'm surprised you have such a negative view on this year's BB.. I thought you were loving it.. troll/

[James]

I missed it last night.

That won't have helped.

[Ammi]

Nope. I wouldn't mind.

I fell out of love with it a little during BB11 and now I want a divorce.

Don't act innocent, rumour is, you cheated with BBUSA and more than just a one night stand. You can forget visitation rights to the kids:hmph:

[DrunkerThanMoses]

I have like a week to catch up on :(

[CaudleHalbard]

Perhaps the mistake was after the "Final Goodbye" which was UBB, bringing it back the following year looked a bit lame.

They should have rested the show for a year or two and brought it back with a different format and maybe even a slightly different title.

[CharlieO]

:laugh: Charlie I'm surprised you have such a negative view on this year's BB.. I thought you were loving it.. troll/

Dead.

[Anglo]

Speak for yourself, chico.


Thanks for the friendly welcome after my first post on this forum. Not. I was speaking for our family, so WE seems a fair term to use.

Reading the many posts on this thread since 24 hours ago it seems that the vast majority of people are really enjoying Channel 5's Big Brother. But there are just a couple who keep posting negative comments.

I cannot for the life of me understand why anyone would be sitting there so hawkishly to make so very many ongoing negative comments about a show they dislike. I was prompted to come onto a Big Brother forum for the first time purely because this series is so much more intriguing than recent years. There are a thousand tv shows I never watch (and might not like) but I would never dream of rooting out a forum to comment on them.

Charlie O says he doesn't need to see the show to make comments on it. The essence of the show is not that the Eye is different, and cannot be judged by glimpses of the hosemates. Big Brother is a story where A) the editing and B) the selection of housemates are the key factors. I really don't waste time worrying about the Eye when I want to be entertained.

When viewers get drawn into the storylines they start to predict what will happen next. This is when viewers become hooked. I am in this category already. Actually, WE are. We spend time predicting what might come next.

Finally, though I'm no statistician, it seems clear that Channel 4 had three main rival channels, as Channel 5 was always negligible. Channel 5 now has four main rivals, which is 33% more rivalry. Of course their ratings will be a bit lower, but with the current format and storylines they have every chance of increasing the share of viewers over time.

I certainly hope they do.

[BigBrotherfan4ever]

Thanks for the friendly welcome after my first post on this forum. Not. I was speaking for our family, so WE seems a fair term to use.

Reading the many posts on this thread since 24 hours ago it seems that the vast majority of people are really enjoying Channel 5's Big Brother. But there are just a couple who keep posting negative comments.

I cannot for the life of me understand why anyone would be sitting there so hawkishly to make so very many ongoing negative comments about a show they dislike. I was prompted to come onto a Big Brother forum for the first time purely because this series is so much more intriguing than recent years. There are a thousand tv shows I never watch (and might not like) but I would never dream of rooting out a forum to comment on them.

Charlie O says he doesn't need to see the show to make comments on it. The essence of the show is not that the Eye is different, and cannot be judged by glimpses of the hosemates. Big Brother is a story where A) the editing and B) the selection of housemates are the key factors. I really don't waste time worrying about the Eye when I want to be entertained.

When viewers get drawn into the storylines they start to predict what will happen next. This is when viewers become hooked. I am in this category already. Actually, WE are. We spend time predicting what might come next.

Finally, though I'm no statistician, it seems clear that Channel 4 had three main rival channels, as Channel 5 was always negligible. Channel 5 now has four main rivals, which is 33% more rivalry. Of course their ratings will be a bit lower, but with the current format and storylines they have every chance of increasing the share of viewers over time.

I certainly hope they do.Great post, really enjoyed reading that, & totall agree with you. Welcome to the forum.:xyxwave:

[joeysteele]

Thanks for the friendly welcome after my first post on this forum. Not. I was speaking for our family, so WE seems a fair term to use.

Reading the many posts on this thread since 24 hours ago it seems that the vast majority of people are really enjoying Channel 5's Big Brother. But there are just a couple who keep posting negative comments.

I cannot for the life of me understand why anyone would be sitting there so hawkishly to make so very many ongoing negative comments about a show they dislike. I was prompted to come onto a Big Brother forum for the first time purely because this series is so much more intriguing than recent years. There are a thousand tv shows I never watch (and might not like) but I would never dream of rooting out a forum to comment on them.

Charlie O says he doesn't need to see the show to make comments on it. The essence of the show is not that the Eye is different, and cannot be judged by glimpses of the hosemates. Big Brother is a story where A) the editing and B) the selection of housemates are the key factors. I really don't waste time worrying about the Eye when I want to be entertained.

When viewers get drawn into the storylines they start to predict what will happen next. This is when viewers become hooked. I am in this category already. Actually, WE are. We spend time predicting what might come next.

Finally, though I'm no statistician, it seems clear that Channel 4 had three main rival channels, as Channel 5 was always negligible. Channel 5 now has four main rivals, which is 33% more rivalry. Of course their ratings will be a bit lower, but with the current format and storylines they have every chance of increasing the share of viewers over time.

I certainly hope they do.

Excellent post,well said and I agree with all you are saying really.

[Omah]

Reading the many posts on this thread since 24 hours ago it seems that the vast majority of people are really enjoying Channel 5's Big Brother.

I'm no statistician.

So who do you mean by "the vast majority of people" ?

:conf:

Is the phrase just a wild assertive guess ?

:puzzled:

[fingers]

So who do you mean by "the vast majority of people" ?

:conf:

Is the phrase just a wild assertive guess ?

:puzzled:

Anyone with the temerity to say one word against what has now become a Sacred Cow for some will immediately be the recipient of abuse and nasty epithets (the kind with asterisks in them and ending in off)).
My criticism, in the main, is levelled at Channel 5 who seem hell bent on destroying what was ONCE a good programme.

[Omah]

I was prompted to come onto a Big Brother forum for the first time purely because this series is so much more intriguing than recent years. There are a thousand tv shows I never watch (and might not like) but I would never dream of rooting out a forum to comment on them.

You may well be a forum newbie, but others have been FMs on this and other sites for years, posting observations, criticisms, plaudits, etc, not only regarding BB but probably "a thousand tv shows" because forums are meant for discussion and exchanging points of view - additionally, for the BB LF, forums provided a mechanism for viewers to post blow-by-blow accounts of the "action", including vids and screencaps, so that others without LF were able to catch up on the "truth" and not rely on the HLs ..... ;)

[Omah]

Of course their ratings will be a bit lower, but with the current format and storylines they have every chance of increasing the share of viewers over time.

Erm, a "bit" ...... :amazed:

I believe that were are talking about an audience difference of several millions ..... :laugh2:

[James]

For what it is worth (not a lot I know) I've been enjoying this series. Maybe even more than previous series at a similar stage.

I think part of the problem is when fans started worrying about the ratings then listing all the things they found wrong with the show - it talks down its chances of success.

That's maybe where C5 went wrong in axing the live feed, not that no live feed effects the ratings of the highlights show very much directly, it probably doesn't. But they still needed the hardcore fans to evangelise (rather than complain) about Big Brother to the wider public and get them to tune it.

You see the wider public don't watch, say, The X Factor because it is any good; they watch it because it is being talked all over the place, and it is event TV and to miss it would be to miss out.

Having said all that though, Big Brother on Channel 5 is still getting alright ratings for them, see the post I made here - http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/forums/showthread.php?p=4529984&highlight=#post4529984 (those are official ratings, not overnights). As has been said we don't have enough information to judge on what they are looking for.

[Vicky.]

You see the wider public don't watch, say, The X Factor because it is any good; they watch it because it is being talked all over the place, and it is event TV and to miss it would be to miss out.


This is so true. I only started watching txf because all my mates at work/school were talking about it. Only so I could join in with the convos :joker:

Am a bit addicted to it now though, but had everyone not been bleating on about it all the time back then, chances are I wouldnt watch now

[Ammi]

For what it is worth (not a lot I know) I've been enjoying this series. Maybe even more than previous series at a similar stage.

I think part of the problem is when fans started worrying about the ratings then listing all the things they found wrong with the show - it talks down its chances of success.

That's maybe where C5 went wrong in axing the live feed, not that no live feed effects the ratings of the highlights show very much directly, it probably doesn't. But they still needed the hardcore fans to evangelise (rather than complain) about Big Brother to the wider public and get them to tune it.

You see the wider public don't watch, say, The X Factor because it is any good; they watch it because it is being talked all over the place, and it is event TV and to miss it would be to miss out.

Having said all that though, Big Brother on Channel 5 is still getting alright ratings for them, see the post I made here - http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/forums/showthread.php?p=4529984&highlight=#post4529984 (those are official ratings, not overnights). As has been said we don't have enough information to judge on what they are looking for.

I totally agree, after CBB, I was dreading that it wouldn't be any good but so far and especially considering we don't have live feed, I think the HM's are a really interesting bunch. Already we have a b****, a loopy lady, unrequited love, a love triangle.........and we've barely got going yet....

[Anglo]

I think the HM's are a really interesting bunch. Already we have a b****, a loopy lady, unrequited love, a love triangle.........and we've barely got going yet....

Very good, spot on!

Nice stats above that finished on 2nd September, thanks James, it will be interesting to see how these develop now we have the real show.

Sorry if this has been mentioned before, but this Big Brother does have every chance of doing well. The autumn schedules will provide stiffer competition, but this is the time of the year when there are more people watching tv. The colder and wetter the better for BB! So even if the % share of viewers remains the same, the number of viewers should rise.

All we need is a good scandal. I remember a few years ago when they had a secret house, that worked really well and they kept echoes of it going in subsequent series.

Big Brother tasks work at their best, IMHO, when they are divisive. Dividing friends and lovers. The separate house did that (remember the excitement when they tunneled through and found it...); but lots of tasks could be devised to make them squabble.

[Omah]

Big Brother does have every chance of doing well. The autumn schedules will provide stiffer competition, but this is the time of the year when there are more people watching tv. The colder and wetter the better for BB!

It may have escaped your notice that the deteriorating weather over the last week has not helped BB viewing figures at all - in fact, as we know, the audience level has reached "critical mass" - if it persists below the 1,000,000 level, then its' ratings are only marginally better than the crass Katie Price shows and it becomes a monumental flop, approaching the disaster that was BBCH, which, of course, ran from 3 January to 28 January 2008, a very cold and wet part of the year ..... :spin:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2008/jan/29/bigbrother.tvratings

Celebrity Hijack brought E4 1.69 million viewers, the channel's highest audience to date for a homegrown programme, on its debut on January 3 but ended its low profile run with 644,000 viewers on the last night, January 28, eclipsed by Ross Kemp's increasingly popular series about British military operations in Afghanistan on Sky One.

The long-running reality show, shunted from Channel 4 to E4 after last year's racism row, captured a 3.1% share of viewing in multichannel homes between 8.30pm and 10.10pm, bringing the series to a subdued close, according to unofficial overnights.

By comparison, the final of Celebrity Big Brother scored 5.8 million viewers for Channel 4 in January 2007.

[fingers]

It may have escaped your notice that the deteriorating weather over the last week has not helped BB viewing figures at all - in fact, as we know, the audience level has reached "critical mass" - if it persists below the 1,000,000 level, then its' ratings are only marginally better than the crass Katie Price shows and it becomes a monumental flop, approaching the disaster that was BBCH, which, of course, ran from 3 January to 28 January 2008, a very cold and wet part of the year ..... :spin:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2008/jan/29/bigbrother.tvratings

I can imagine Channel 5 "shunting" their own Desmond's Folly to 5* rather than admitting to its failure to gain audience share. Desmond should even consider buying (bailing out) Living channel which is even more trashy than the ones he already has!:dance::joker:

[Stu]

Thanks for the friendly welcome after my first post on this forum. Not. I was speaking for our family, so WE seems a fair term to use.

Reading the many posts on this thread since 24 hours ago it seems that the vast majority of people are really enjoying Channel 5's Big Brother. But there are just a couple who keep posting negative comments.

I cannot for the life of me understand why anyone would be sitting there so hawkishly to make so very many ongoing negative comments about a show they dislike. I was prompted to come onto a Big Brother forum for the first time purely because this series is so much more intriguing than recent years. There are a thousand tv shows I never watch (and might not like) but I would never dream of rooting out a forum to comment on them.

Charlie O says he doesn't need to see the show to make comments on it. The essence of the show is not that the Eye is different, and cannot be judged by glimpses of the hosemates. Big Brother is a story where A) the editing and B) the selection of housemates are the key factors. I really don't waste time worrying about the Eye when I want to be entertained.

When viewers get drawn into the storylines they start to predict what will happen next. This is when viewers become hooked. I am in this category already. Actually, WE are. We spend time predicting what might come next.

Finally, though I'm no statistician, it seems clear that Channel 4 had three main rival channels, as Channel 5 was always negligible. Channel 5 now has four main rivals, which is 33% more rivalry. Of course their ratings will be a bit lower, but with the current format and storylines they have every chance of increasing the share of viewers over time.

I certainly hope they do.
What has the fact that you're a new member got to do with anything? Do you want me to blow smoke up your arse because you only have a handful of posts? You didn't explicitly mention that you were reffering to your family so you can't blame me for not instantly assuming you were talking about your blood krew, souljah boy.

As for this continuing perplexity towards people making negative comments about the show it's not that difficult to wrap ones head around : This is not a Big Brother 2011 discussion forum. It's a Big Brother discussion forum. A place to discuss the show in general, amongst other things. You won't find the likes of Charlie or myself trolling highlight show discussion threads pretending we know what is happening in the house and declaring it to be a bit poo.

You will however find us giving our two cents on why we didn't like what we saw before we tuned out. You will see our sort chiming in with why we think Big Brother has gone down the crapper. You will see us contribute to general threads like this regarding the ratings and whatnot with our opinion on why things have gone the way they have gone.

We have every right as fans of the show in general to do these things. It's a discussion forum for both positive and negative opinions and it's really, really not that hard to understand. The comparison you drew about signing up to a forum about a show you dislike is hillariously out of depth.

Welcome to TiBB.

[rsefitpro2011]

Big Brother has just simply run out of steam, it's been going on for so long, that people are used to it!

When Channel 4 pulled the plug on it so many people were desperate for it to come back!, so Channel 5 grant peoples wishes and bring it back, only for it to fall flat on it's preverbial again!

I don't actually think Channel 5 will be too dissapointed with the amount of viewers, i would imagine they will just be happy to be getting more people turning over to Channel 5!

That said perhaps its time to put Big Brother to bed and maybe think up a different stragey for a future without Big Brother!

[Omah]

I can imagine Channel 5 "shunting" their own Desmond's Folly to 5* rather than admitting to its failure to gain audience share.

Now you mention it, I can see that happening ..... :spin2:

[David R]

Can someone explain to me then why the USA big brother keeps going strong? Do they have a better format? Maybe CH5 should take some inspiration from its setup and nomination system.

[Callum]

Can someone explain to me then why the USA big brother keeps going strong? Do they have a better format? Maybe CH5 should take some inspiration from its setup and nomination system.

US Big Brother is much more about gameplay, unlike UK BB. It airs in the Summer schedule which means it always has little competition and they only have three episodes a week. That's why it always does so well, it will outlive UK BB because people aren't bored of it. I don't think the US format would work over here though, it was tried for a brief period in BB9 with the head of household and taking a nominee down, also again last year with Save and Replace otherwise known as the Veto competition in BBUS and it didn't work.

[Liberty4eva]

US Big Brother is much more about gameplay, unlike UK BB. It airs in the Summer schedule which means it always has little competition and they only have three episodes a week. That's why it always does so well, it will outlive UK BB because people aren't bored of it. I don't think the US format would work over here though, it was tried for a brief period in BB9 with the head of household and taking a nominee down, also again last year with Save and Replace otherwise known as the Veto competition in BBUS and it didn't work.

Elements were tried but the whole format has never been adopted. They might as well try something really radical as it doesn't appear doing the same thing is working.

[CaudleHalbard]

The sponsors and advertisers views will be absolutely crucial as to whether BB continues. If the ratings are much lower that they were promised they will either pull the plug or want to pay much less money - to the extent BB will become a big loss-maker. BB must have very high overheads.

This could be the last series of 'normal' BB although the celeb version might continue for a while. The celeb version ties in better with Richard Desmond's other commercial interests, I suspect.

[MTVN]

It's a shame because I've thought this series has been really good, I suppose the show really is just on it's last legs, I can't really see it having much longevity on C5 because I don't know what they can do to suddenly rejuvenate interest in the show. Mind you, it does seem that you still have a core BB audience who are still watching, perhaps if they can retain that and keep ratings above a million then it won't be too bad but I still can't see them extending the contract past the 2 years they've got it for

[Pyramid*]

Channel 4 / Endomol did a fairly good job at killing the show with the heavily manipulated editing and lack of live feed, with hms being introduced to the outside world for tasks, new housemates being brought in mid way and spilling the beans on public perception, crap punishments, allowing rule breaks to go unchallenged, homing in on fauxromances and not listening to what the viewer wanted.

Channel 5 were always going to have an uphill struggle - but I've got to hand it to them: the show so far has been entertaining - however the longer they home in so much on the same storyline (Aden/Rebeckah) - I dont want to see what they are upto - it's groundhog day and it's a prime example of why viewers fled in their droves. Live feed is crucial.

[Parmy]

ALL YOU NEGROZ POP YOUR PUSAAY LIKE DIS!

/Capitals

Go and kill yersel.