Rumour: c5 have called a meeting with endemol...

[SimBrotherNetwork]

It's has been said on Twitter that c5 have called a meeting with endemol to discuss poor ratings, after the big drop last night!

Soruce BigBrotherXtra's twitter

[Shasown]

Oh well if it was some unofficial Twitter page it must be true

[SimBrotherNetwork]

It wouldn't surprise me if it was true tbh :/

[Jarrod]

It wouldn't be surprising but BBXtra...

[Jarrod]

Maybe they're discussing Live Feed too. #justsayin.

[joeysteele]

If it's true, let's hope they re-consider live feed or certainly more footage, 3 hours a day BB is on TV, the official highlights and the repeat at around 12 noon each day then the repeat of the repeat on 5* in the afternoon.

Wasted time as to more footage that could be shown.More footage is needed, we knew most of the celebrities but people haven't a clue as to what most of these housemates are about and with the limited footage given, 50 minutes a day for all housemates, they are never likely to either.

[SimBrotherNetwork]

It wouldn't be surprising but BBXtra...

Yeah that's what i was thinking...

[David R]

Um thats not how Rumor is spelt....

The boxing delay is what did it. If they don't make the time slot earlier and also bring back the live stream it will be dead in a few weeks. Could they actually pull the plug on the show halfway? I'm sure they have in the contracts the ability to do that.

[Tom4784]

I wouldn't judge the ratings unless we can see how well C5's other programs did, last Saturday BB was the only program that broke a million viewers. It might have just been a poor day for C5 rather then BB failing.

[Shasown]

Um thats not how Rumor is spelt....

The boxing delay is what did it. If they don't make the time slot earlier and also bring back the live stream it will be dead in a few weeks. Could they actually pull the plug on the show halfway? I sure they have in the contracts the ability to do that.

Neither is that

The word is Rumour

Go to the top of the class and sharpen the pen nibs

[SimBrotherNetwork]

Um thats not how Rumor is spelt....

The boxing delay is what did it. If they don't make the time slot earlier and also bring back the live stream it will be dead in a few weeks. Could they actually pull the plug on the show halfway? I'm sure they have in the contracts the ability to do that.
Whoops :P My mistake haha

[David R]

Neither is that

The word is Rumour

It is in America.

[Shasown]

It is in America.

Funny old thing Its not an American show, this is not an American forum and the language being used is called English.

[fingers]

Um thats not how Rumor is spelt....

The boxing delay is what did it. If they don't make the time slot earlier and also bring back the live stream it will be dead in a few weeks. Could they actually pull the plug on the show halfway? I'm sure they have in the contracts the ability to do that.

Rumor is the american spelling, this is the UK and we use rumour.:dance::wavey:

[tomxox]

will live feed really boost the ratings,because only die-hard fans will watch it and that cant be more than 0.2 million hardcore fans

[Locke.]

That is MrMarky isn't it? There is no point even discussing it it is obviously made up.

[SimBrotherNetwork]

That is MrMarky isn't it? There is no point even discussing it it is obviously made up.

Yeah it is, That's why I've put Rumour

[David R]

will live feed really boost the ratings,because only die-hard fans will watch it and that cant be more than 0.2 million hardcore fans

No, the whole point of the live feed is to catch casual viewers who might tune to it at any point in the night, see something they like about a particular conversion or housemate and then get hooked. That's how I got hooked originally back in the day.

With the highlights show you can't 'follow' someone who interests you the most whereas the live streams gives you more of what you want which is perfect for the easily distracted casual viewers.

[Marc]

I don't think they'll ever get to the highs of previous seasons. I think they've done as well as they can this year to rope in new/old viewers of the show but if it's not going to happen then it's not going to happen. When BB dies on CH5 it will die for good and that won't be too far away!

[soundslike]

What gets me is when BB started they had a good set up for it internet and a channel you could watch when you wanted to. Also it came on at various times in the day and then in the evening and later in the night through to the morning.

It was there when you wanted to watch it now it is virtually non existent. They fixed something that wasn't broken. But yet they still want and expect you to vote for this shambles and pay them to vote. Yes they haven't got rid of that though have they?

no wonder people are not bothering to watch it as an hour is just not enough to get to know whats going on.

[Shasown]

That is MrMarky isn't it? There is no point even discussing it it is obviously made up.

There is always some element of truth in his rumours.

Given its a show currently being shown and the fact it follows storylines etc. Channel 5 executive programmers probably meet with Big Brother production executives at least a couple of times a week already.

[Grimnir]

bring back live feed right this instant endemol channel 5 bitches

[Shasown]

bring back live feed right this instant endemol channel 5 bitches

Yeah that will make them sit up and listen.

[Stu]

:laugh2:

[BigBrotherfan4ever]

IF this romour is true, hopefully they are considering bring back the LF, i think it maybe the only way to get the viewers interested again.

[Grimnir]

if they don't bring back live feed by tomorrow at midnight

i am gonna write a letter :hmph:

[Shasown]

if they don't bring back live feed by tomorrow at midnight

i am gonna write a letter :hmph:

Well make sure you have the spelling and grammar checker switched on FFS.

[dizzy bint]

IF this romour is true, hopefully they are considering bring back the LF, i think it maybe the only way to get the viewers interested again.

A new and different variation on the spelling. :joker:

[MeMyselfAndI]

A new and different variation on the spelling. :joker:

omg :laugh3:

[Incensed]

Someone posted this on FB, could of course just be supposition.

C5 emergency meeting, apparently 1st thing changed older housemates being put in . wonder what else will follow.

[Pyramid*]

A new and different variation on the spelling. :joker:


:D

[happybbfan]

older housemates wont make any difference if we cant see them
BB germany went through a bad patch like this and they reinstated livefeed and new housemates and its still going strong today
time to start listening Jeff Ford

[Incensed]

older housemates wont make any difference if we cant see them
BB germany went through a bad patch like this and they reinstated livefeed and new housemates and its still going strong today
time to start listening Jeff Ford


I agree, don't see why we can't have live feed via the red button, even if it's just a few hours a night.

[happybbfan]

I agree, don't see why we can't have live feed via the red button, even if it's just a few hours a night.

red button does take months to set up but livefeed through the internet could be up and running in days

[Pyramid*]

older housemates wont make any difference if we cant see them
BB germany went through a bad patch like this and they reinstated livefeed and new housemates and its still going strong today
time to start listening Jeff Ford


Agree - they need more than (in the main), people who know have little to discuss other than N-Dubz, what's the best fake tan to use, what gangs they (allegedly) were in, and of course: how many women they have slept with.

More crucially - Live Feed. As you say: no point in doing one without the other: would be a waste of time otherwise.

it's a shame because it does have the potential to be a good one this year.

[BigBrotherfan4ever]

A new and different variation on the spelling. :joker:

Oh god i know my spelling is awful.:blush: I was just about to edit my post, its the Dyslexia.:blush:

[Parmy]

I'd pay for internet live feed.

[CharlieO]

MrMarky's site and you even believe for a second that it's true. :laugh3:

[BigBrotherfan4ever]

Agree - they need more than (in the main), people who know have little to discuss other than N-Dubz, what's the best fake tan to use, what gangs they (allegedly) were in, and of course: how many women they have slept with.

More crucially - Live Feed. As you say: no point in doing one without the other: would be a waste of time otherwise.

it's a shame because it does have the potential to be a good one this year.

Totally agree with you Pyramid everything you've said, especially the bits in bold, im absolutely loving this series, i just wish there was LF.

[Incensed]

red button does take months to set up but livefeed through the internet could be up and running in days

Ah, I didn't know that :hugesmile: I'd be happy to pay for live feed on the PC.

[CaudleHalbard]

Guardian article here (http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011/sep/14/big-brother-ratings) about ratings. The first five episodes have averaged 1.7 million viewers.

Whilst CBB8 gave some hope (series average 2.8 million), BB12 seems to have been a disaster.

I dip in from, time to time, but find I can't be bothered to watch more than a few minutes.

[Pyramid*]

Totally agree with you Pyramid everything you've said, especially the bits in bold, im absolutely loving this series, i just wish there was LF.


That was a trick comment there wasn't it. You're trying to make me believe that I've flipped my lip !!! :D

[arista]

It's has been said on Twitter that c5 have called a meeting with endemol to discuss poor ratings, after the big drop last night!

Soruce BigBrotherXtra's twitter


No.

[Stu]

Brilliant comment from The Guardian's article :

"I'd rather watch Paedophile Island."

[CaudleHalbard]

I'm sure C5 and Endemol discuss BB all the time. "Calling a meeting" is over-dramatic hype.

However, the drop from 2.8 million average for CBB8 to 1.7 million for BB12 must be of big concern... it's a 40% reduction from the celeb series and advertisers/sponsors will not be pleased at all!

[Pyramid*]

Guardian article here (http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011/sep/14/big-brother-ratings) about ratings. The first five episodes have averaged 1.7 million viewers.

Whilst CBB8 gave some hope (series average 2.8 million), BB12 seems to have been a disaster.

I dip in from, time to time, but find I can't be bothered to watch more than a few minutes.


Let's be honest: in this years show we have the Panto style crew:

Rebeckah: the villan
Louise: the princess looking for love
Jay: the strong man
Aden: village idiot
Arron: good looking prince charming looking for love
Harry: Landowner snobby, upper crust type
Tom: court jester
Mark court jester number 2
Alex: Cinderella (and I bet that's not coincedence)

and so it goes on.

With the vast majority of them having nothing of interest to say, no witty humour, no good convos (which a lot of the BB's have been hilarious with - the late night talks where all sorts comes out).

Live Feed was the whole ethos of the show as far as being made for public viewing.

[g17m]

LF is fundamental, its how the press see things unfold before the HL show and can get it published early and have the true story instead of the stories channel 5 give us

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Let's be honest: in this years show we have the Panto style crew:

Rebeckah: the villan
Louise: the princess looking for love
Jay: the strong man
Aden: village idiot
Arron: good looking prince charming looking for love
Harry: Landowner snobby, upper crust type
Tom: court jester
Mark court jester number 2
Alex: Cinderella (and I bet that's not coincedence)

and so it goes on.

With the vast majority of them having nothing of interest to say, no witty humour, no good convos (which a lot of the BB's have been hilarious with - the late night talks where all sorts comes out).

Live Feed was the whole ethos of the show as far as being made for public viewing.

But you dont know this is fact as there is no live feed.

[tweetypiebabe1]

This year has the potential to really put Big Brother on the map. The main problem is there is no live feed. I had to admit I am missing it terribly because this is the first time in years where I've felt we need a live feed for these housemates. Even if it's just like the US one where they do BB After Dark for three hours or do an edited live feed show where they put all the stuff they couldn't fit into the HL show, that would be great.

The second thing is the HL show is literally a semi extended version of the clips they post online. Why watch the show when you can just watch the you tube clips?!

Third off they need to make sure they bring in some new, interesting housemates whenever they decide to do that.

Fourth, they need better tasks and harsher punishments.

And finally, they need the housemates to move away from the sex talk. Nothing's wrong with it once in a while but every single episode? For the majority of the episode? It gets annoying.

I'm sure there's others but I just cannot think right now.

[Patrick]

Dont believe anything this guy says.

Unless I am confusing you with that SaveBBonFacebook bint.

[Stu]

Like I did with the Celebrity series I've stopped watching this one a week in, too. It's just the one bland flavour of under 30 dimwits plucked from talent agency obscurity and shoved in to get edited to bejaysus in a show that is only Big Brother in name. It's just another **** reality show now whereas Big Brother used to be the reality show people who weren't into reality shows watched.

I can't imagine Charlie Brooker working up the courage to launch into a tirade about it if he even knows it's on. Not that I'm using him as some tell all barometer but by becoming a generic clone of a clone show with no personality and no variety in the cast it's lost virtually all it's adult audience who as Pyramid alluded to loved the odd moments of wit and bizarre late night convorsations.

It's all gone and It's not coming back. It really is a show for morons now. It's left behind the people who loved and could defend it best.

[Pyramid*]

But you dont know this is fact as there is no live feed.

There is no live feed? :o OMG. I'm shocked.


None of us - including you - know anything as 'fact', given that we are shown edited highlights, in context of my post, to which you referred.

[BigBrotherfan4ever]

That was a trick comment there wasn't it. You're trying to make me believe that I've flipped my lip !!! :D

I dont know what's happened there, i tried to put the bits in i agree with you, but when i posted it, they didn't go bold.:conf:

[Jordan.]

After these ratings if they don't even try LF on the next series just to see if it makes a difference then they're complete idiots and it deserves to fail.

[Suze]

Rumor is the american spelling, this is the UK and we use rumour.:dance::wavey:

And yet a lot of online sites are hosted by American places, and the codings such as 'Color' are spelt in the American way, so isn't stressing the difference between the English and American spelling just because this is a UK forum just nitpicking? Does it really matter as long as we can understand the post? anything is better than text speak in posts. And maybe more respect for our cousins across the waters from USA and other Countries and tolerance of their language which they try their very best to translate into English, is needed on sites.

[BigBrotherfan4ever]

After these ratings if they don't even try LF on the next series just to see if it makes a difference then they're complete idiots and it deserves to fail.

100% agree with you Jordan, surely to god, they will give LF a go, just to see if does make a difference to the ratings.

[starry]

The problem is once you've lost an audience it can be hard to get them back. They shouldn't have kept the audience in the dark about everything as if it was none of their business. They bought Big Brother so they should have listened to what the Big Brother audience wanted.

[Suze]

The problem is once you've lost an audience it can be hard to get them back. They shouldn't have kept the audience in the dark about everything as if it was none of their business. They bought Big Brother so they should have listened to what the Big Brother audience wanted.

Trouble is though, even when C4 had BB, none of them right back as far back as BB3 hardly ever listened to what the BB fans wanted so I doubt they are going to start now, they always think they know best and never give any credit to what the fans want in a BB, so won't consider fan suggestions. Maybe C5 will sit up and listen now though and at least change a few things in time for the next BB rather than see the ratings flop further. Let's hope, hey.

[CharlieO]

Like I did with the Celebrity series I've stopped watching this one a week in, too. It's just the one bland flavour of under 30 dimwits plucked from talent agency obscurity and shoved in to get edited to bejaysus in a show that is only Big Brother in name. It's just another **** reality show now whereas Big Brother used to be the reality show people who weren't into reality shows watched.

I can't imagine Charlie Brooker working up the courage to launch into a tirade about it if he even knows it's on. Not that I'm using him as some tell all barometer but by becoming a generic clone of a clone show with no personality and no variety in the cast it's lost virtually all it's adult audience who as Pyramid alluded to loved the odd moments of wit and bizarre late night convorsations.

It's all gone and It's not coming back. It really is a show for morons now. It's left behind the people who loved and could defend it best.

This precisely.

[Suze]

Like I did with the Celebrity series I've stopped watching this one a week in, too. It's just the one bland flavour of under 30 dimwits plucked from talent agency obscurity and shoved in to get edited to bejaysus in a show that is only Big Brother in name. It's just another **** reality show now whereas Big Brother used to be the reality show people who weren't into reality shows watched.

I can't imagine Charlie Brooker working up the courage to launch into a tirade about it if he even knows it's on. Not that I'm using him as some tell all barometer but by becoming a generic clone of a clone show with no personality and no variety in the cast it's lost virtually all it's adult audience who as Pyramid alluded to loved the odd moments of wit and bizarre late night convorsations.

It's all gone and It's not coming back. It really is a show for morons now. It's left behind the people who loved and could defend it best.

I haven't watched and don't intend watching a single second of this one. If there were live feed and more variety of housemates instead of the obvious angle that is being pushed with them then I would have at least given this BB a looksee.

I used to be such an avid BB fan up until probably BB7, then more or less decided to give up on it from there just dipping in and out of watching it from then on, completely not watching BB10 at all, and only watching BB11 until Ben got evicted because I fully expected that to be the last UK BB and wanted to watch the last one, and that one got so boring towards the end.

[rsefitpro2011]

I would very much doubt this rumour has any truth involved. The ratings are poor overall, but for Channel 5 they are getting more viewers than they have ever had!

[Mystic Mock]

Guardian article here (http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011/sep/14/big-brother-ratings) about ratings. The first five episodes have averaged 1.7 million viewers.

Whilst CBB8 gave some hope (series average 2.8 million), BB12 seems to have been a disaster.

I dip in from, time to time, but find I can't be bothered to watch more than a few minutes.

CBB8 is one of the reasons as for why BB12 is doing so **** in the ratings,because CBB8 debuted to 6 million viewers as its peak,yet inside 2 weeks it ended up getting 1.7 million viewers because it was a load of ****.

[CaudleHalbard]

CBB8 had some new production aspects which did not go down well with fans but nevertheless a 2.8 million average was not bad and - for C5 - terrific. Personally I enjoyed watching CBB8.

BB12 came far too soon afterwards and although fans, on here, generally applauded it, the public at large didn't want to watch a bunch of nobodies after the celebs.......... however Z-list those celebs might have been. It would not surprise me if BB12 averages under 1 million by the end of the series..

Anyway, although I will continue to dip in to BB12, I have pretty much written it off now. And if I, as a BB fan, feel that way, more casual viewers must be turning off in droves.

Oh well, roll on CBB9 - I'm looking forward to it. :) Hopefully lessons will have been learned from both CBB8 and BB12.

[fingers]

CBB8 had some new production aspects which did not go down well with fans but nevertheless a 2.8 million average was not bad and - for C5 - terrific. Personally I enjoyed watching CBB8.

BB12 came far too soon afterwards and although fans, on here, generally applauded it, the public at large didn't want to watch a bunch of nobodies after the celebs.......... however Z-list those celebs might have been. It would not surprise me if BB12 averages under 1 million by the end of the series..

Anyway, although I will continue to dip in to BB12, I have pretty much written it off now. And if I, as a BB fan, feel that way, more casual viewers must be turning off in droves.

Oh well, roll on CBB9 - I'm looking forward to it. :) Hopefully lessons will have been learned from both CBB8 and BB12.The way things are going you might have to consider yourself lucky if there IS a CBB9.:joker:

[Pyramid*]

CBB8 had some new production aspects which did not go down well with fans but nevertheless a 2.8 million average was not bad and - for C5 - terrific. Personally I enjoyed watching CBB8.

BB12 came far too soon afterwards and although fans, on here, generally applauded it, the public at large didn't want to watch a bunch of nobodies after the celebs.......... however Z-list those celebs might have been. It would not surprise me if BB12 averages under 1 million by the end of the series..

Anyway, although I will continue to dip in to BB12, I have pretty much written it off now. And if I, as a BB fan, feel that way, more casual viewers must be turning off in droves.

Oh well, roll on CBB9 - I'm looking forward to it. :) Hopefully lessons will have been learned from both CBB8 and BB12.

the only ones making it interesting in any way and keeping me tuning in are Aaron and Henry - apart from being easy on the eye - most of the what I find entertaining to watch as far as BB is concerned - dry witty sarcasm, hms sussing out the wannabees very quickly, and subtley winding others up now and then. Far as I can see, its most coming from those two.

If they go: or if the producers start homing in on some crap 'storyline' like JJJ last year or as bad, showing hms running about screaming, chucking stuff around, and acting like 5 year olds. I can see more viewing time of that up at the local primary school. Though Mr Nice Community Policeman may have something to say about that if I did.

[CaudleHalbard]

The way things are going you might have to consider yourself lucky if there IS a CBB9.:joker:

You're right!

I think it depends what view advertisers and sponsors take of the abysmal ratings, which in turn depends on what C5 promised them!

If they pull the plug, well that's it.

[Smithy]

Soruce BigBrotherXtra's twitter


trololololol

[Incensed]

I can't get my head round why BB12 shouldn't have have come straight after CBB. I just don't get why it would have been beneficial to delay it. To me, we all watched CBB, or most BB fan's did, and were waiting for BB to start.

Can someone explain the benefit of delaying BB until say next year? Not having a go here, just genuinely can't see the reason for the delay.

[BigBrotherfan4ever]

I feel the same Incensed, i think it was a good move on C5 part, to have BB12 straight after CBB, i still stand by the fact, i think the reason why BB12 is not doing so well cause of no LF, i think it didn't matter so much without it, in CBB, because we were fairly familiar with the HM's, but to have 14 strangers in the house, & see 45mins a night, we really cant make a judgment on them, so i really truly believe thats why people a have switched off.

[Incensed]

I feel the same Incensed, i think it was a good move on C5 part, to have BB12 straight after CBB, i still stand by the fact, i think the reason why BB12 is not doing so well cause of no LF, i think it didn't matter so much without it, in CBB, because we were fairly familiar with the HM's, but to have 14 strangers in the house, & see 45mins a night, we really cant make a judgment on them, so i really truly believe thats why people a have switched off.

Totally agree. Without live feed I think people are wary, especially as the vids and updates on the social media sites can be hit and miss.

[Bubba]

I have not watched any shows other than the opening night shows. This year seems to be the last gasp for BB on C5 but i see they have gone in the wrong direction.
1) No live feed
2) HM's all under 30.
3) Voting on FB using credits( Who in their right mind would give credit card details to a site such as this) not me for sure.
4 C5 not taking any of the suggestions from the numerous BB Forums into consideration.
5) the opening of Bigbrother.com website and nothing being on there???
I rest my case.

[Colbert-Bump]

I can finally reveal BigBrotherXtra's insider.

http://anony.ws/di-CNAX.jpg

[Suze]

I have not watched any shows other than the opening night shows. This year seems to be the last gasp for BB on C5 but i see they have gone in the wrong direction.
1) No live feed
2) HM's all under 30.
3) Voting on FB using credits( Who in their right mind would give credit card details to a site such as this) not me for sure.
4 C5 not taking any of the suggestions from the numerous BB Forums into consideration.
5) the opening of Bigbrother.com website and nothing being on there???
I rest my case.

And a very good case you have there. Especially point 3 :o

[Kazakh]

What does one expect of the "Wine me, dine me, 69 me" brigade that are the current HMs. If it were not Endemol the Producers would be sacked!