Jays racism warning

[Vicky.]

What an absolute load of bollocks.

Cant stand jay, but come on :rolleyes:

[Fat.Rat]

Just wat i was thinking x x

[pimpslapper]

Racism is awful, what jay said proves he is just a vile human being.

[Jordan.]

They probably only aired it after the outrage about '**** gate'. But it was completely pathetic even picking him up on it. Everyone in the garden knew it was a from a film.

[eezamana]

Its not just the racist element though, its the jibe about wheelchair users which BB didnt even pick up on. I don't think it was smart or funny of Jay or any of them.

+ White Chicks was a totally dire film, couldnt even watch it

[Doogle]

What annoyed me more was how informal BB was.

"JAY YOU MADE A JOKE ABOUT RACE"

or whatever. It seemed like another Hm said it to him ratehr than BB.

[Doogle]

What annoyed me more was how informal BB was.

"JAY YOU MADE A JOKE ABOUT RACE"

or whatever. It seemed like another Hm said it to him ratehr than BB.

[Patrick]

The IDH would not stand for this.

[GypsyGoth]

That was stupid, it wasn't racism. The line he quoted was written by a black guy.

[Chuck]

Racism is awful, what jay said proves he is just a vile human being.

Get a grip, he wasn't being racist and everybody knows it was a line from a film.

[Jords]

I think its how it could be took. Obviously it was from the film and was meant in a sexual way, however some people may have thought that he was suggesting that if you go with a black man you get beat up - joke or not.

I understand the warning but Jay wasnt racist at all.

[Doogle]

And yeah they made it clear they were talking about a film. In no way does that make him racist, quoting the line. He didn't even mean it in any offensive way and everyone knew. I think Aaron only reacted like that because of the wheelchair thing though, but he did blow that a bit out of proportion, as did BB.

[pimpslapper]

Get a grip, he wasn't being racist and everybody knows it was a line from a film.


So you think that racist and disability related jokes are funny then? :dog:

[Lister of Smeg]

calling that racist is ridiculous its a quote from the film White Chicks a film that was written by the Waynes brothers who are both black.

[Jamsey]

That was stupid, it wasn't racism. The line he quoted was written by a black guy.

I agree that is wasn't racist but I don't agree with your reasoning.

"All white people are stupid." ~ Me (A white person)

The above quote is racism, dosent matter who says it.

[Mystic Mock]

TBF if Emily BB8 is going to get chucked out for accidently coming across racist,then why cant Jay get punished for his racist remark? and Aaron needs his £100,000 cheque now.

[Niamh.]

yeah, it was a bit OTT tbf

[Jedwardhater]

hahahaha i agree.

[Niamh.]

TBF if Emily BB8 is going to get chucked out for accidently coming across racist,then why cant Jay get punished for his racist remark? and Aaron needs his £100,000 cheque now.

well, she did use a highly offensive word, plus it was on Channel 4 not too long after Shilpagate

[Gillian-73]

Very over the top from bb

[Tom]

well, she did use a highly offensive word, plus it was on Channel 4 not too long after Shilpagate

She shouldn't have been kicked out the back door at 4am with no knickers or shoes on though :joker:

Didn't see the quote in question but he deserves a warning for ****ting in the freezer anyway

[GypsyGoth]

I agree that is wasn't racist but I don't agree with your reasoning.

"All white people are stupid." ~ Me (A white person)

The above quote is racism, dosent matter who says it.

Yea, I guess you're right.

[Lister of Smeg]

So you think that racist and disability related jokes are funny then? :dog:

it wouldnt be funny if Jay had known about Aarons wife but he clearly didnt and its a joke and not at all racist its well known black people are stereotyped as having large dicks a stereotyped im sure there only to happy to have.

[billy123]

TBF if Emily BB8 is going to get chucked out for accidently coming across racist,then why cant Jay get punished for his racist remark? and Aaron needs his £100,000 cheque now.Come on then JF tell us what was racist about what he said seeing as you seem so sure about it.
I bet you cant.

P.S. Aarons a prick he just threw away what little chance he had of winning tonight by trying to manipulate the viewers with his little overdramatic tantrum :)

[brian3]

they are just covering themselves

[Black Dagger]

Which line from White Chicks was it?

I missed that and just saw Aaron have a bit of a breakdown.

[billy123]

He didnt get any official warning either they pretty much just said be careful with words because there are some absolute nutters out there that will feign offence just because they are a fan of another housemate and some mental cases will put that ahead of any thought for your reputation.

[Mystic Mock]

Come on then JF tell us what was racist about what he said seeing as you seem so sure about it.
I bet you cant.

P.S. Aarons a prick he just threw away what little chance he had of winning tonight by trying to manipulate the viewers with his little overdramatic tantrum :)

Im not saying his comment was racist but Emilys wasnt meant as racist either.

[Niamh.]

She shouldn't have been kicked out the back door at 4am with no knickers or shoes on though :joker:

Didn't see the quote in question but he deserves a warning for ****ting in the freezer anyway

Don't get me wrong, I don't agree with Emily being kicked out at all, she didn't say it in a nasty way. I think a warning to not use the word would have been sufficient. Also, with the lack of live feed things like ****ting in freezers can be hidden from us lol

[MTVN]

In fairness, considering BB's history with racism, it's just a case of better safe than sorry really

[billy123]

Im not saying his comment was racist but Emilys wasnt meant as racist either.Neither of them meant it but Emily's was racist Jays wasnt. since when was the word black a racist word?

[flamingGalah!]

It is a racist comment, if it's from a film or not... I do think BB were a bit OTT to call him up about it, but I'm sure some people would complain if they didn't...

Aaron's reaction was more to do with the wheelchair part of the comment, rather than the racist bit, as his wife was in a wheelchair for a year, so I can understand him being upset/offended by it...

[Nightshade]

WHITE CHICKS WAS JUST BRILLIANT jays a nob but the quote has been blown out of all proportion - get Aaron and Faye out

[SocietyIsRuined]

Im not saying his comment was racist but Emilys wasnt meant as racist either.

Agreed. But Channel 4 was already off the back of the racism row. Any term used would be immediate dismisal.

[Vicky.]

Ironically though, his warning was for the racist element.

And the only one to take offense to it, took offense to the disability part.

[Visage]

I thought it was OTT and kinda felt BB were trying to prove something with all this talk on the net about poo-gate. It felt like they were putting a message out there saying yes we do pull Jay up if he's out of line.

[Cromwell1900]

I think its how it could be took. Obviously it was from the film and was meant in a sexual way, however some people may have thought that he was suggesting that if you go with a black man you get beat up - joke or not.

I understand the warning but Jay wasnt racist at all.

Never thought of it like that, and yes i agree if you had no understanding of the line in the Movie, i think you could be forgiven for thinking this was the meaning of the line. If you know of Jay's humour you'd probably get that there was more to it, but if you had just tuned in for the first time maybe you'd think he was being Racist!

[Chuck]

So you think that racist and disability related jokes are funny then? :dog:

It was a race related joke written by a black guy for a Comedy Film. Yes I did find it funny and so did many other people who are evolved enough to realise that a race related joke is different from a racist joke.

And Jay didn't know about Aaron's wife and I'm sure he had absolute no intention to upset Aaron.

[Benjamin]

I think C5 are probably just covering their backs as to not have an incident like C4, they are already struggling with viewers, the last thing they need is more negative press.

[blkbeauty71]

jay said a quote from the film white chicks.and as he said in the diary it means that black men are hung like donkeys that you could end up in a wheelchair.,and it was said by a black actor.and i would think most black people would not be offended.but because of the jade goody episode they have to seem as if they are doing something but they must learn the difference and listen to the whole conversation when something is said.now to most viewers they are gonna think jay is racist when he is not. and aaron has blown it all out he knows its from a film he is trying to look like a good guy.i am raging and its down to bb editing lets not forget.i could go on and on anyway jay to win from a strong black woman

[Supermum]

It was a comment about BLACK MEN, a very stereotypical comment suggesting that all black men have big willies. This is incorrect!! It is a racial remark (not sure i'd class it as racist as racist remarks are negative). Plus i cant see any black man being offended by it. Never the less, he shouldn't have said it because its inappropriate. I understand why BB pulled Jay up on it, they had to cover their backs. We live in a very PC world (not the computer shop, but politically correct) and if anything Jay should know better, he just confirmed he's a dumb ass!

[Cromwell1900]

Which line from White Chicks was it?

I missed that and just saw Aaron have a bit of a breakdown.

"Once you go Black you need a Wheelchair" is the line in the Film at least.

[Niamh.]

Yeah, it's more of a compliment to black men rather than an insult, isn't it?

[flamingGalah!]

It was a race related joke written by a black guy for a Comedy Film. Yes I did find it funny and so did many other people who are evolved enough to realise that a race related joke is different from a racist joke.

And Jay didn't know about Aaron's wife and I'm sure he had absolute no intention to upset Aaron.

I don't find it offensive, or even overly racist, but suggesting that Black men have big d*cks IS racist & although having a big d*ck would probably be considered a good thing, some could still be offended...

It is a stereotype & similar to sugesting that all British people have bad teeth & that all American's are thick...

[Cromwell1900]

Yeah, it's more of a compliment to black men rather than an insult, isn't it?

Yes but the expectation is un-barable!:bawling:

[Cromwell1900]

I don't find it offensive, or even overly racist, but suggesting that Black men have big d*cks IS racist & although having a big d*ck would probably be considered a good thing, some could still be offended...

It is a stereotype & similar to sugesting that all British people have bad teeth & that all American's are thick...

That's exactly what it is not. It is positive discrimination like all British people have great accent's or all American's live in Big Houses. It's all stereotypes but because they are positive they are not offensive surely!

[MTVN]

Ironically though, his warning was for the racist element.

And the only one to take offense to it, took offense to the disability part.

Yeah that's the thing, personally I think that if it was offensive to anyone it would be more likely be for it's racial element because it's stereotyping black people, I never really thought about how it could have offended wheelchair users

[flamingGalah!]

But you are assuming that all black men think having a huge cock is positive??

[Vicky.]

But you are assuming that all black men think having a huge cock is positive??
Is it not a good thing? :evilgrin:

But...its untrue. I discovered a while back :p

[Cromwell1900]

But you are assuming that all black men think having a huge cock is positive??

I am yes, well it is a positive statement at least, is it a positive thing to have a big willie? I'm struggling to think of a downside to it
within normal extremes of course.

[Niamh.]

Yes but the expectation is un-barable!:bawling:

mwhahaha :laugh:

[Niamh.]

Is it not a good thing? :evilgrin:

But...its untrue. I discovered a while back :p

oh really? :laugh:

[Iceman]

what did he say exactly?

[Vicky.]

what did he say exactly?

Quoted the line from white chicks

Once you go black you'l be in a wheelchair

[joeysteele]

The point is where does fun end and things meant start,Jay is not a child, he should have thought better on BB to even think of making the statement.

He likely meant no harm in reality but that's what a lot of people say who make racist comments or ridicule the disabled. It has to be nipped in the bud.

[InOne]

It's pretty sad Jay has come out looking like the good one here :bored:

[Vicky.]

It's pretty sad Jay has come out looking like the good one here :bored:

The whole show was very Pro-jay really IMO.

Im even getting so cynical as to think he was given that warning to gain more sympathy, as most will think it was uncalled for :bored:

[Iceman]

I think C5 are probably just covering their backs as to not have an incident like C4, they are already struggling with viewers, the last thing they need is more negative press.

Not really, if anything it would have brought viewers in, Jade's eviction was one of the most watched episodes in BB history. (Albeit for all the wrong reasons)

[Niamh.]

The whole show was very Pro-jay really IMO.

Im even getting so cynical as to think he was given that warning to gain more sympathy, as most will think it was uncalled for :bored:

yeah, starting to think that myself.

[InOne]

The whole show was very Pro-jay really IMO.

Im even getting so cynical as to think he was given that warning to gain more sympathy, as most will think it was uncalled for :bored:

Yep, lots of airtime, the cosy "date". And I thought you weren't allowed to write messages for people in any form :suspect:

[MTVN]

Louise picked Jay for that date, and he did go and win the burger task, anyone who won that would have been given more air time :conf2: + the warning gave a context to Aaron's breakdown at the end, which wouldnt have made sense otherwise

[InOne]

Louise picked Jay for that date, and he did go and win the burger task, anyone who won that would have been given more air time :conf2:

I'm talking about in general. And it was quite obvious who Louise was gonna pick :idc:

[Lex]

The whole show was very Pro-jay really IMO.

Im even getting so cynical as to think he was given that warning to gain more sympathy, as most will think it was uncalled for :bored:

Agreed!

[Vicky.]

Louise picked Jay for that date, and he did go and win the burger task, anyone who won that would have been given more air time :conf2: + the warning gave a context to Aaron's breakdown at the end, which wouldnt have made sense otherwise

Hmmm maybe. Just seems really odd that after the whole freezer thing, his highlight shows are much better.

I really dislike how they totally missed out faye going mental at aaron because he didnt kick off about her kissing anton though :/ Now its going to look like hes being off with her for no reason tomorrow.

The editing is absolutely atrocious most of the time, in other words :tongue:

[James]

The whole show was very Pro-jay really IMO.

Im even getting so cynical as to think he was given that warning to gain more sympathy, as most will think it was uncalled for :bored:

Yeah, I don't see why they need to broadcast warnings now there is no live feed. If they think the public will find something offensive they don't need to show it.

[Jords]

Yeah, I don't see why they need to broadcast warnings now there is no live feed. If they think the public will find something offensive they don't need to show it.

I guess they wanted to show it to have it end on Aaron's DR entry.

[Chuck]

Is it not a good thing? :evilgrin:

But...its untrue. I discovered a while back :p

Unlucky

[Vicky.]

I guess they wanted to show it to have it end on Aaron's DR entry.

And I wonder why they wanted to make Aaron look like a hysterical loon(which seems to have worked going on the amount of people who think he had no right to be upset). Couldnt be because hes getting a little too popular now could it? :wink:

[Visage]

If they think the public will find something offensive they don't need to show it.

Like the poo in the freezer ?

[MTVN]

Hmmm maybe. Just seems really odd that after the whole freezer thing, his highlight shows are much better.

I really dislike how they totally missed out faye going mental at aaron because he didnt kick off about her kissing anton though :/ Now its going to look like hes being off with her for no reason tomorrow.

The editing is absolutely atrocious most of the time, in other words :tongue:

Possibly, I've always liked Jay though so I'm glad he's getting good HL's :tongue:

Yeah I don't really get why they couldn't show that, hopefully they'll include it in a little flashback or something tomorrow but wouldn't surprise me if they don't, wouldn't be hard to fit it in there considering some of the pointless stuff that they do show

[rk3388]

Get a grip, he wasn't being racist and everybody knows it was a line from a film.

hes not racist - but the comment was.

[Jordan.]

http://30.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ls9gwcoNG61r25skio1_500.png

[Chuck]

hes not racist - but the comment was.

It can only be seen as racist if you don't take into consideration the context of it. He was obviously joking.

[Benjamin]

I am yes, well it is a positive statement at least, is it a positive thing to have a big willie? I'm struggling to think of a downside to it
within normal extremes of course.

Ever thought that stereotype may make black men without big willy's feel insecure and inadequate?

Also just to break this illusion, bigger is not always better, clearly you haven't mastered great sex if you think size means everything. ;)

[Cromwell1900]

http://30.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ls9gwcoNG61r25skio1_500.png

Oh My Dear what broad shoulders you have!:blush:

[Cromwell1900]

Ever thought that stereotype may make black men without big willy's feel insecure and inadequate[/B]

[B]Also just to break this illusion, bigger is not always better, clearly you haven't mastered great sex if you think size means everything. ;)



It could make some of us feel inadequate i suppose but if it did that would be an issue of self esteem and not one of negative descrimination

And i know size is not everything but i can't see a downside to it though.

[shella]

Not really, if anything it would have brought viewers in, Jade's eviction was one of the most watched episodes in BB history. (Albeit for all the wrong reasons)

I am still trying to figure out.
what did she do. people lost there minds. i followed the bandwagon saying she
was prejudiced then i watched it. what did she actually say that was soooo
offensive

[Cromwell1900]

She took the piss out of Shilpa Shetty's accent and Name as she was from India it was viewed as Racist. i think the words she used were "Shilpa popadom or whatever her name is"

I don't think it was particularly racist but it was mild bullying behaviour though

[Iceman]

She took the piss out of Shilpa Shetty's accent and Name as she was from India it was viewed as Racist. i think the words she used were "Shilpa popadom or whatever her name is"

I don't think it was particularly racist but it was mild bullying behaviour though

Basically this. Jade had been built up so much since her first time in the house, she had to come crashing down. Once the media saw what they could do they were delighted. Bullying? Yes. Racist? Not in a million

[shella]

this is just my opinion
in no way was jay's comment racist. he was trying to get Maisy to kiss Anton YUK. it was just a joke, as for the wheel chair part of it, come on please get a grip keep it in the context of the joke. Aaron did over react but remember he sated that he had not watched the movie so i understand how he could have tken it the wrong way. but i felt sooo sorry for jay.
He was asking Aaron if he would have found that comment offensive and Arron did that would have crushed me.

[shella]

She took the piss out of Shilpa Shetty's accent and Name as she was from India it was viewed as Racist. i think the words she used were "Shilpa popadom or whatever her name is"

I don't think it was particularly racist but it was mild bullying behaviour though

just my opinion
i still do not know what jade said or did for people to react the way they did?
In no way was Jade racist.
1 they were having a flaming row
2 Jade got so angry that she couldn't get shilpa's name out
3 it was the other two that should have been thrown out for what they were saying behind shilpa's back which jade had nothing to do with

[camertone]

some films can be quite racist too! it was stupid of him to use racist language from a film. maybe it exposes his true mentality on race as he felt at ease to use such racist language.

[Jesus.]

just my opinion
i still do not know what jade said or did for people to react the way they did?
In no way was Jade racist.
1 they were having a flaming row
2 Jade got so angry that she couldn't get shilpa's name out
3 it was the other two that should have been thrown out for what they were saying behind shilpa's back which jade had nothing to do with

I've heard it all now. Jade was racist scum, an the fact she died prematurely and tragically doesn't change that. She knew exactly what she was saying to Shilpa. Funny how her anger forced out "poppadom," rather than completely tongue-tying her. People shouldn't ever get a free pass for being racists.

some films can be quite racist too! it was stupid of him to use racist language from a film. maybe it exposes his true mentality on race as he felt at ease to use such racist language.

Exactly, I couldn't go up to a group of black guys, and say " hey, my N, how is a brother?" And then say I'm just quoting Chris Rock, or Dr. Dre.

We have a shameful history of slavery and racism in this country, and many people alive today have been victims of racially motivated violence/assaults.

I wouldn't go to the local synagogue, and start quoting Mein Kampf. Chill out Jews, I'm just quoting a book.

I don't think Jay was intentionally being racist, but you don't get a free pass.

[fruit_cake]

not sure why it's racist really, it's seems almost like just mentioning the word 'black' is now considered racist.

[AusFan]

You've got to be kidding, I can't believe that one line was turned into such a big deal.

Anyone who was offended by that better never watch any episode of Family Guy or South Park. Fair enough if BB was some family show but I can't see how that joke was so distasteful when you had Rebeckha talking about urinating on someone in the first episode.

Besides that joke would be considered as a compliment to most.

I remember a girl got a warning in BB Australia for a racist joke that was actually offensive.

Also my opinion of Aaron has fallen after tonight's ''performance'' , he really is truly playing the game he said on opening night he would. Playing the game is fine but not at the expense of someone's reputation (Jay, yes I know his rep isn't great to begin with but still).

[daniel-lewis-1985]

So you think that racist and disability related jokes are funny then? :dog:

I do yeah.

I also like jokes about homosexuals, indians, trannies, the polish and the elderly.

Doesnt mean i hate them or am racist against them just that im not uptight and take things with a pinch of salt.

I would hate to be PC, constatntly getting offended by others remarks and having to watch what i say.

Jay has a mixed race family and associates with black men/women Infact im pretty sure hes slept with that black chick off BBBOTS and its common knowledge alot of them do have big fat donkey cocks that are well capable of hindering someones ability to walk afterwards.

[Ammi]

I don't think it was intentionally racist but it is arguable as to whether that makes a difference........I hadn't actually heard him say it until BB quoted it in the diary room....I think they also new the context in which he said it, so was just a gentle reminder which they had to make otherwise they would have been criticised for not doing it......Aaron's reaction seemed to be connected to his wife and also just feeling down in general that day...it's right that BB does point these things out to H.M's, they may not be meant as offensive but that doesn't mean they don't offend.....it was stupid to say it

[Raven]

Overly PC bull****, This isn't the American bible belt, We are supposed to have a sense of humour. It was a film quote FFS! Even if it was from a really crap film... by all means rip the piss out of him for having crap taste in movies but there was absolutely no call for all this pathetic drama.

As for aaron's reaction.... playing it up for sympathy is actualy more offensive IMO. Yet more game playing from the most pathetic and two-faced manipulative creep in there!

[vesavius]

What an absolute load of bollocks.

Cant stand jay, but come on :rolleyes:

I think it was for two things, neither of them actually to do with BB being bothered with 'racism'.

1. They wanted to show jay getting in 'trouble' following him ****ting in that freezer and it not being addressed at all (despite that being far more offensive and gainst BB rules then saying what he said).

2. They wanted to show that confusing footage of Aaron in the DR after very badly.

Ofc it also starts threads like this which gain sympathy for Jay.

I think it'sobvious that the BB team have decided that the Jay/Lou 'story' will carry them for the next couple of weeks and everything we see over the next few days will chosen to be to that end.

[InOne]

I am really now thinking it was just a ploy by Ch5 to get Jay the sympathy vote and get the public on his side

[Niamh.]

I am really now thinking it was just a ploy by Ch5 to get Jay the sympathy vote and get the public on his side

Yeah, I know what you mean. I'm starting to dislike that disgusting oaf more and more everyday :bored:

[vesavius]

I am really now thinking it was just a ploy by Ch5 to get Jay the sympathy vote and get the public on his side

Exactly, I 100% agree.

[InOne]

Yeah, I know what you mean. I'm starting to dislike that disgusting oaf more and more everyday :bored:

And now people are starting to feel sorry for Mr **** in a freezer :bored: Seems they did the job right

[Niamh.]

And now people are starting to feel sorry for Mr **** in a freezer :bored: Seems they did the job right

Well, there's obviously alot they're hiding about him, since 2 of the 4 HMs that came out started to say stuff about him and were immediately hushed. Somethings rotten in Denmark me thinks :bored:

[fruit_cake]

Maybe channel five want a racist issue, it might boost viewers, I'm cooling on Jay a bit

[billy123]

deleted: I cant be arsed.

[vesavius]

It seems to me in reading back through this thread that its only Aaron fans that have taken offence in this incident which is absolutely pathetic some people need to have a think about what they are saying and why.

Never trust a mason! :devil:

[Ammi]

Well, there's obviously alot they're hiding about him, since 2 of the 4 HMs that came out started to say stuff about him and were immediately hushed. Somethings rotten in Denmark me thinks :bored:

Are you talking about the food tax referred to in another thread.........LOL

[billy123]

You've got to be kidding, I can't believe that one line was turned into such a big deal.

Anyone who was offended by that better never watch any episode of Family Guy or South Park. Fair enough if BB was some family show but I can't see how that joke was so distasteful when you had Rebeckha talking about urinating on someone in the first episode.

Besides that joke would be considered as a compliment to most.

I remember a girl got a warning in BB Australia for a racist joke that was actually offensive.

Also my opinion of Aaron has fallen after tonight's ''performance'' , he really is truly playing the game he said on opening night he would. Playing the game is fine but not at the expense of someone's reputation (Jay, yes I know his rep isn't great to begin with but still). Its pathetic the sad thing is nobody thinks it was racist but there are some real strange people that place supporting their housemate of choice above telling the truth about what they think.
There are a lot of silly people willing to pretend they are offended just to try and protect their own favourite housemate its pretty retarded and quite disgusting really.

[Niamh.]

Are you talking about the food tax referred to in another thread.........LOL

hahahaha ;)

[Ammi]

hahahaha ;)

......oh and yes, Niamh, I am following you about.........there's b*gger all else going on, on the forum today........lol

[billy123]

Never trust a mason! :devil:Im very trustworthy :nono:
1111
Theres no such thing anyway :)

[Niamh.]

......oh and yes, Niamh, I am following you about.........there's b*gger all else going on, on the forum today........lol

I don't blame you, I am pretty amazing :laugh:

[vesavius]

Its pathetic the sad thing is nobody thinks it was racist.

Racism is an intent not a word, so no it really wasnt.

wasnt he quoting a black guy saying it in the film anyhow? I havent seen it.

[Ammi]

I don't blame you, I am pretty amazing :laugh:

Yes, but you always have to mention that at least once a day.........LOL

[Pyramid*]

I think the whole thing - from Aaron's reaction, BB's warning and even the public reaction to it all is OTT.

I can't help but feel that BB was doing nothing more than trying to simply avoid racism accusations from being used - and was doing nothing more than merely pointing out to Jay that his innocent enough comment, (which let's be honest here, it was) - simply could be miscontrued.

Was BB wrong? No I don't think so. They've pointed it out - they didn't say Jay had been out of order, didn't accuse the guy of anything. All they did was say, 'Look, be smart and just be careful ... you know how these things can be blown out of all proportion'. Which I think was correct.

Aaron had a whole different set of reasons for his reaction - and although I can understand his upset - I also feel he was OTT. He could have explained to Jay why he personally found it upsetting - (re the wheelchair and his wife) - and I'm sure that would have smoothed a lot over. In Jay's defence, I doubt he was even aware of Aaron's wife's situ.

Again, Jay's comment wasn't a personal one: it was a quote from a movie, was meant in fun (and meant to actually be one in which 'boosted' black males!), rather than be offensive.

[Supernovarolla]

I think the whole thing - from Aaron's reaction, BB's warning and even the public reaction to it all is OTT.

I can't help but feel that BB was doing nothing more than trying to simply avoid racism accusations from being used - and was doing nothing more than merely pointing out to Jay that his innocent enough comment, (which let's be honest here, it was) - simply could be miscontrued.

Was BB wrong? No I don't think so. They've pointed it out - they didn't say Jay had been out of order, didn't accuse the guy of anything. All they did was say, 'Look, be smart and just be careful ... you know how these things can be blown out of all proportion'. Which I think was correct.

Aaron had a whole different set of reasons for his reaction - and although I can understand his upset - I also feel he was OTT. He could have explained to Jay why he personally found it upsetting - (re the wheelchair and his wife) - and I'm sure that would have smoothed a lot over. In Jay's defence, I doubt he was even aware of Aaron's wife's situ.

Again, Jay's comment wasn't a personal one: it was a quote from a movie, was meant in fun (and meant to actually be one in which 'boosted' black males!), rather than be offensive.

THIS.

You've just saved me the bother of having to type it all out. Thank you.

[MTVN]

I think the whole thing - from Aaron's reaction, BB's warning and even the public reaction to it all is OTT.

I can't help but feel that BB was doing nothing more than trying to simply avoid racism accusations from being used - and was doing nothing more than merely pointing out to Jay that his innocent enough comment, (which let's be honest here, it was) - simply could be miscontrued.

Was BB wrong? No I don't think so. They've pointed it out - they didn't say Jay had been out of order, didn't accuse the guy of anything. All they did was say, 'Look, be smart and just be careful ... you know how these things can be blown out of all proportion'. Which I think was correct.

Aaron had a whole different set of reasons for his reaction - and although I can understand his upset - I also feel he was OTT. He could have explained to Jay why he personally found it upsetting - (re the wheelchair and his wife) - and I'm sure that would have smoothed a lot over. In Jay's defence, I doubt he was even aware of Aaron's wife's situ.

Again, Jay's comment wasn't a personal one: it was a quote from a movie, was meant in fun (and meant to actually be one in which 'boosted' black males!), rather than be offensive.

Yeah I'd say that's pretty much spot on, it's not like BB were actually accusing Jay of being a racist or anything like that

[billy123]

Racism is an intent not a word, so no it really wasnt.

wasnt he quoting a black guy saying it in the film anyhow? I havent seen it.
Yes a film directed by a black guy written by a black guy and words spoken by a black actor :blush:
I have had this conversation with a black friend of mine this morning and the only thing he found offensive is people jumping on the racism button just to try and make someone look bad and also pissed off at the patronising attitude of some people that think black people need looking after like they cant defend themselves.

[Niamh.]

Yes, but you always have to mention that at least once a day.........LOL

Well, if you don't love yourself, you can't expect other to :nono:

[Niamh.]

I do still think there's some part of the story missing as to why Aaron was so upset. It doesn't make sense that Jay woke Aaron up to tell him about it when they're not exactly buddies in the house.

[vesavius]

Yes a film directed by a black guy written by a black guy and words spoken by a black actor :blush:
I have had this conversation with a black friend of mine this morning and the only thing he found offensive is people jumping on the racism button just to try and make someone look bad and also pissed off at the patronising attitude of some people that think black people need looking after like they cant defend themselves.


I would agree with him as well, the same thing would piss me off.

[MTVN]

I do still think there's some part of the story missing as to why Aaron was so upset. It doesn't make sense that Jay woke Aaron up to tell him about it when they're not exactly buddies in the house.

Yeah I know that was weird, it'd be more likely he'd go to someone like Anton who he's friends with and was actually there when he said it :/ unless he was just going to bed anyway, saw Aaron near to him and spontaneously decided to ask him thinking he was one of the more sensible and mature in there :shrug: But when Aaron seemed really shocked I thought Jay did look a little surprised and embarrassed, I wouldn't like to think Jay knew about his wife having been in a wheelchair and then decided to tell him the joke

[Niamh.]

Yeah I know that was weird, it'd be more likely he'd go to someone like Anton who he's friends with and was actually there when he said it :/ unless he was just going to bed anyway, saw Aaron near to him and spontaneously decided to ask him thinking he was one of the more sensible and mature in there :shrug: But when Aaron seemed really shocked I thought Jay did look a little surprised and embarrassed, I wouldn't like to think Jay knew about his wife having been in a wheelchair and then decided to tell him the joke

The way he told him though it was almost like he was trying to explain it to him, so maybe BB had said something about Aarons wife? I don't know, something was definitely missing some where in the story. This is happening alot actually with Big brother in general since this series started. Something always feels wrong about peoples reactions to things, like we've missed out on an important piece of the puzzle

[Pyramid*]

Yeah I know that was weird, it'd be more likely he'd go to someone like Anton who he's friends with and was actually there when he said it :/ unless he was just going to bed anyway, saw Aaron near to him and spontaneously decided to ask him thinking he was one of the more sensible and mature in there :shrug: But when Aaron seemed really shocked I thought Jay did look a little surprised and embarrassed, I wouldn't like to think Jay knew about his wife having been in a wheelchair and then decided to tell him the joke


Remember though: something must have been discussed earlier: because jay actually said WTTE to Aaron, "Remember, before when you said about black....and the thing about wheel.... (then points to a chair) at which point - Aaron wasn't clicking on because he asked Jay who had been saying that kind of stuff... to which Jay replied 'me'." That's when Aaron was shocked...and couldn't believe Jay had referred to such a thing.

I can only go on the premise that some discussions had taken place earlier regarding either race and /or the wheelchair disability - which may have accounted for Aaron being shell shocked. I don't know if Jay did know about Aaron's own situation - but certainly, some discussion had been made earlier. (which makes me think, that it was the further discussion, after Jay making the 'commented quote' - that it was THAT, rather than his initial quote, that prompted the warning from BB to Jay - rather than the actual quote itself - but the quote that 'may' have led to a more indepth discussion?).

Who knows.... but that's my take

[billy123]

This is where we arrive at the point that it has to be said that this big brother is the biggest bag of dog spunk in the shows history as all we have to talk about is guesswork,presumption and made up crap.
The only big brother in the world with no live feed and its flopped go figure.
We are reduced to arguing about things that none of us know the facts about.

[Niamh.]

This is where we arrive at the point that it has to be said that this big brother is the biggest bag of dog spunk in the shows history as all we have to talk about is guesswork,presumption and made up crap.
The only big brother in the world with no live feed and its flopped go figure.

It's such a shame too because apart from the lack of L/f, I think C5 have done well with it. But I don't know if I'll watch next series (if there is one) if they don't bring the L/f back, because I constantly feel like I'm being played by C5

[billy123]

It's such a shame too because apart from the lack of L/f, I think C5 have done well with it. But I don't know if I'll watch next series (if there is one) if they don't bring the L/f back, because I constantly feel like I'm being played by C5
I get the feeling there is a good series of big brother happening that C5 have put a lot of work into but we are missing it.
I know people are sick of hearing it and im sick of talking about it but why on earth are we the only country in the history of big brother not to get live feed wtf is wrong with endemol!!!

I wish i could turn this crap off its breaking my heart seeing the show in this state :bawling:

[Niamh.]

I get the feeling there is a good series of big brother happening that C5 have put a lot of work into but we are missing it.
I know people are sick of hearing it and im sick of talking about it but why on earth are we the only country in the history of big brother not to get live feed wtf is wrong with endemol!!!

I wish i could turn this crap off its breaking my heart seeing the show in this state :bawling:

I know :( You know even, the few hours in the evening after C5s programmes end would make a massive difference. Just a few hours to get more of a feel for the HMs and of what's going on.

[ozzyshaggah]

c5 would do anything for cheap ratings
shame on you c5

[Jedwardhater]

c5 would do anything for cheap ratings
shame on you c5

I agree!

[MTVN]

The way he told him though it was almost like he was trying to explain it to him, so maybe BB had said something about Aarons wife? I don't know, something was definitely missing some where in the story. This is happening alot actually with Big brother in general since this series started. Something always feels wrong about peoples reactions to things, like we've missed out on an important piece of the puzzle

Yeah definitely, thing is I was reading yesterday that C5 have splashed out on surveillance equipment and they actually have the largest number of cameras to date for a BB series. Given that it really makes no sense for them to not have a LF tbh :(

[Niamh.]

Yeah definitely, thing is I was reading yesterday that C5 have splashed out on surveillance equipment and they actually have the largest number of cameras to date for a BB series. Given that it really makes no sense for them to not have a LF tbh :(

I have feeling though that the lack of l/f is less about the money and more about wanting to control what we see and what kind of a show we get. I'm getting more and more fed up with all these "Reality" shows tbh, I'm on the verge of having reality show protest and not watching any of them anymore (Gavin is praying for that day to come!)

[MTVN]

I have feeling though that the lack of l/f is less about the money and more about wanting to control what we see and what kind of a show we get. I'm getting more and more fed up with all these "Reality" shows tbh, I'm on the verge of having reality show protest and not watching any of them anymore (Gavin is praying for that day to come!)

Hmm true, I guess they're trying to build on the success of shows like TOWIE, Geordie Shore and Made in Chelsea, maybe the times of actually having true Reality TV with 24/7 footage is just over :shurg:

[Grimnir]

jay's warning was justified
the comment about being hung like a jungle wasp was the more racist comment
and the first comment was more offensive to wheelchair users
so he potentially offended two groups of people
doesn't matter if we are not offended because big brother has set its rules that the housemates must follow
got to look at it objectively
nothing offends me personally, they could make jokes about genocide for all i care
but if big brother has informed housemates of the rules and a housemate breaks them, then they are entitled to give a warning
he actually got off lightly because in my opinion jay's comments were worse than emily's, who got ejected

[Niamh.]

Hmm true, I guess they're trying to build on the success of shows like TOWIE, Geordie Shore and Made in Chelsea, maybe the times of actually having true Reality TV with 24/7 footage is just over :shurg:

The problem being that alot of us BB fans don't even like shows like TOWIE etc. I know I don't, for me TOWIE would be like watching wrestling if you catch my drift. I like Big Brother because it's supposed to be real and taking L/f away is killing that.

[Chuck]

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[Pyramid*]

:bored:


I know Chuck, it's droll.

[Ammi]

Well, if you don't love yourself, you can't expect other to :nono:

a belated 'Totally agree' LOL I'm having internet problems.........

[Parmy]

kick the wheezing buffoon out!