View Full Version : Denmark Indtroduces a Fat Food Tax
arista
04-10-2011, 10:07 AM
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504763_162-20114811-10391704.html
http://i.i.com.com/cnwk.1d/i/tim/2011/04/21/woman_burger_iStock_0000084_244x183.jpg
This is now Taxed
http://www.channel4.com/news/denmark-introduces-fat-tax-on-food
Will the UK Follow (excluding Scotland)
Sign Of The Times
Not a bad idea, if you tax things like cigarettes and alcohol then why not really unhealthy foods too :shrug:
arista
04-10-2011, 11:03 AM
Not a bad idea, if you tax things like cigarettes and alcohol then why not really unhealthy foods too :shrug:
But McD does a pound menu
they won't want to
add tax on there products.
Well I'm sure Marlboro don't want to add tax onto their cigarettes either :hmph:
Niamh.
04-10-2011, 11:18 AM
I see what they're trying to do but talk about nanny state. There's no such thing as free will anymore
Chuck
04-10-2011, 11:21 AM
I'm not sure if I'm in favour of adding tax on booze, fags or unhealthy food because I just think if people want to be unhealthy, it's their choice. But I guess their choices often cost a lot to the government, NHS etc and the whole society ends up paying for the treatment for some individuals.
I understand it but I'm never the one in favour of the government interfering with people's life choices.
I'm not sure if I'm in favour of adding tax on booze, fags or unhealthy food because I just think if people want to be unhealthy, it's their choice. But I guess their choices often cost a lot to the government, NHS etc and the whole society ends up paying for the treatment for some individuals.
I understand it but I'm never the one in favour of the government interfering with people's life choices.
Nah me neither but I think that if you are going to tax things like Cigarettes and Alcohol then it's not much further to tax unhealthy food too
Chuck
04-10-2011, 12:04 PM
Nah me neither but I think that if you are going to tax things like Cigarettes and Alcohol then it's not much further to tax unhealthy food too
Yes, I agree with you. But I'm not sure if I think any of those things should have an extra tax in the first place.
Grimnir
04-10-2011, 02:42 PM
if they tax cigs and alcohol, they should tax fatty foods too
but better solution would be to just not produce cigs, alcohol or fatty foods in the first place
arista
04-10-2011, 04:04 PM
if they tax cigs and alcohol, they should tax fatty foods too
but better solution would be to just not produce cigs, alcohol or fatty foods in the first place
No this is Fat Food Tax Only
and so far only in Denmark.
Harry!
04-10-2011, 04:09 PM
Some ''low fat'' foods are often high in sugar. What we need is more people taking responsibility with their lives or banning the stock. Campaigns do NOT work. Smoking and Drink are big buisness for buisness so govt. make loads of tax from them.
arista
04-10-2011, 04:13 PM
Some ''low fat'' foods are often high in sugar. What we need is more people taking responsibility with their lives or banning the stock. Campaigns do NOT work. Smoking and Drink are big buisness for buisness so govt. make loads of tax from them.
In Denmark they will.
The First Nation to do the Fat Food Tax
Harry!
04-10-2011, 04:15 PM
In Denmark they will.
The First Nation to do the Fat Food Tax
No they are not quite, it is the GOVERNMENT who are taking responsibility not every day people. The reason why so many children are obese can be blamed to poor parenting.
arista
04-10-2011, 04:20 PM
No they are not quite, it is the GOVERNMENT who are taking responsibility not every day people. The reason why so many children are obese can be blamed to poor parenting.
Yes Well Done Denmark.
Cromwell1900
04-10-2011, 05:29 PM
I know the UK Government has for years ran campaigns and adverts, but that just misses the point that people who over eat are week willed and will not listen to reason, i am a Smoker and i know how week willed i am in trying to give it up.
No Campaigns will work. So what should they do run campaigns forever and hope know one notices there going backwards or be Brave like:shocked: Denmark?..... apparently! and take away the free will to screw there body up. Free will is great but if your going to use it to throw yourself under a bus even though you have a reasonably happy life otherwise then it's not doing you any good at all.
Also the Parents that CAN stop there kids and themselves from eating too much, DO and those that can not, DONT. Enter stage right The Government.
Lets have a few less Puddings on the bargain shelves at Tesco's and a bit more proper grub, the kind that tastes good without a chemical soak.
Cost more? Yes, Who's going to pay for it? This guy below. the Boss of Tesco's Mr Terry Leahy
http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2009/5/27/1243409757466/Terry-Leahy-chief-executi-001.jpg
he looks like the kind of smug drip that might have the odd 3.4 billion a year to soften a blow or two. I rang him up and he says it's ok!
Photon
04-10-2011, 05:46 PM
I see what they're trying to do but talk about nanny state. There's no such thing as free will anymore
Nanny State? No Free Will?
Yeah man, wikileaks is totally going to leak some wire on how the government of Denmark is in on some conspiracy to discourage people from eating junk food. 2k12 y2k UFO's 9/11 bigfoot I'M GOING INSANE MAN.
Or maybe it's that obesity and poor diets lead to a considerable decrease in the physical health of a nations population, which leads to an increase in the cost of taking care of ones citizens, especially in a nation with universal healthcare. The amount of money that is put into advertising that encourages people to eat unhealthy foods is astronomical, generally dwarfing the amount of money that is available for campaigns to educate people about eating healthy. It makes sense to increase a tax on something that makes people unhealthy.
arista
04-10-2011, 08:49 PM
"This guy below. the Boss of Tesco's Mr Terry Leahy"
No he is not
anymore.
Pyramid*
04-10-2011, 08:56 PM
Yes, I agree with you. But I'm not sure if I think any of those things should have an extra tax in the first place.
As far as fags and booze is concerned, eEconomically, the UK would be in an even worse state than it already is: and the people earning the lower wages would be the ones who'd end up having to pay more tax on their earnings / council tax / road taxes and god knows what else to make up the defecit though.
Cromwell1900
05-10-2011, 01:52 PM
As far as fags and booze is concerned, eEconomically, the UK would be in an even worse state than it already is: and the people earning the lower wages would be the ones who'd end up having to pay more tax on their earnings / council tax / road taxes and god knows what else to make up the defecit though.
I don't know where the balance is but fags & Booze cost the NHS a heap of money as well as making it in taxes. But rather than taxing harmful products, i'd love to see a Harmful Products Tax laid on the Manufacturer rather than the consumer. Maybe it could be tied into an estimate of how much money the NHS spends on dealing with them.
Pyramid*
05-10-2011, 01:58 PM
I don't know where the balance is but fags & Booze cost the NHS a heap of money as well as making it in taxes. But rather than taxing harmful products, i'd love to see a Harmful Products Tax laid on the Manufacturer rather than the consumer. Maybe it could be tied into an estimate of how much money the NHS spends on dealing with them.
If fags and booze were so damaging: and the cost of health care was less than the monies that the treasury reap in taxes: don't you think both would be made illegal?
Why isn't that done instead? simply because more revenue is generated from the taxes paid on such products, than the NHS spend.
Pyramid*
05-10-2011, 01:58 PM
I don't know where the balance is but fags & Booze cost the NHS a heap of money as well as making it in taxes. But rather than taxing harmful products, i'd love to see a Harmful Products Tax laid on the Manufacturer rather than the consumer. Maybe it could be tied into an estimate of how much money the NHS spends on dealing with them.
If fags and booze were so damaging: and the cost of healthy care was less than the monies that the treasury reap in taxes: don't you think both would be made illegal?
Why isn't that done instead? simply because more revenue is generated from the taxes paid on such products, than the NHS spend.
I don't know where the balance is but fags & Booze cost the NHS a heap of money as well as making it in taxes. But rather than taxing harmful products, i'd love to see a Harmful Products Tax laid on the Manufacturer rather than the consumer. Maybe it could be tied into an estimate of how much money the NHS spends on dealing with them.
I remember reading that the tax revenue from cigarettes and alcohol actually far outweighs the cost they impose on the NHS, I'll see if I can find the article..
Cromwell1900
05-10-2011, 02:53 PM
If fags and booze were so damaging: and the cost of healthy care was less than the monies that the treasury reap in taxes: don't you think both would be made illegal?
Why isn't that done instead? simply because more revenue is generated from the taxes paid on such products, than the NHS spend.
I think Tobacco would certainly be illegal if the treasury was a poorer place after the sums were done.
But Alcohol is a bit more tricky i think, in that it has a value to most of us and we'd kick off and go all Al Capone on the Government if they took it away.
Whereas cigs are only enjoyable after your hooked on them as soon as you stop smoking your a happier fitter person and a drag would probably leave you wondering why did i ever enjoy this crap. Also i would not be surprised if the overall profit the Treasury may make on Cigs is much, and it certainly must be less now after Tony Blair banned there advertisement. And sometime after came the Public Place smoking bans.
Cromwell1900
05-10-2011, 02:57 PM
I remember reading that the tax revenue from cigarettes and alcohol actually far outweighs the cost they impose on the NHS, I'll see if I can find the article..
Yep would be an interesting read, thanks!
lostalex
06-10-2011, 11:42 AM
it's a very discriminatory tax
if you are going to tax people for being fat becauase they put mnore of a burden on the NHS, then you should also put a tax on Anorexia. Anorexia and Obesity are the same disease. Why don't we punish people who are too skinny like we punish people who are too fat???
and you should have a tax on people with Cancer, people with cancer cost more to the NHS. and you should have a tax for being old, old people also have more health problems. Basicaly you should put a tax on everyone who has any kind of disease at all.
Anemia tax, Alergies tax, AIDS tax etc....
Chuck
06-10-2011, 11:44 AM
it's a very discriminatory tax
if you are going to tax people for being fat
Everybody eats fast food, not only fat people.
Yep would be an interesting read, thanks!
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/7654153.stm
Treating smokers costs the NHS in England £2.7bn a year, compared with £1.7bn a decade ago, a report claims.
Anti-smoking group Ash says the cost would have risen to over £3bn had action to curb smoking not seen numbers fall from 12 million to nine million.
The report's proposals to cut smoking include mandatory plain packaging. The government is consulting on next steps in tobacco control and regulation.
Lobby group Forest argues that smokers pay over £9bn a year in tobacco tax.
Also found an interesting link regarding the tax revenue from smoking each year http://www.the-tma.org.uk/tma-publications-research/facts-figures/tax-revenue-from-tobacco/
Last year £11.1 billion was apparently raised from tobacco tax
Pyramid*
06-10-2011, 12:21 PM
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/7654153.stm
Also found an interesting link regarding the tax revenue from smoking each year http://www.the-tma.org.uk/tma-publications-research/facts-figures/tax-revenue-from-tobacco/
Last year £11.1 billion was apparently raised from tobacco tax
Good links.
Let's work on the figures provided by ASH, 9million smokers.
Average that out to approx one each of the 9m smokers buying one packet of 20 fags a day, at a cost of an average £6. That's £54m.
Multipy that with days in a year, and it brings the total to just short of £22million (gross revenue) - so that seems entirely plausible.
Tax on Fast Foods (or Fat Foods) I do think should be the case. They cause a great expense to the NHS, due to the abuse on the body - and should be taxed accordingly - in the same manner as that other damaging product, cigarettes.
lostalex
06-10-2011, 12:28 PM
why should fast food be targetted? because it's cheap and it makes a profit?
All delicious food is unhealthy. And NO delicious fod is healthy. Because it's not about the food, it's about the AMOUNT OF FOOD. French food has way more fat and calories than british food, but British people are fatter, why? because of portions, not because of the food itself.
Targetting the fast food restauirants is BS because food at very expensive restaurants is just as unhealthy, the only difference is that it's more expensive.
Why should only rich people be able to eat unhealthy food? it's going back in time, when british kings and queens were all fat, because fat was a sign of wealth. Look at Victorian times, all people of wealth were fat.
SHOULD WE GO BACK TO TIMES WEHRE POOR PEOPLE ARE SKINNY AND ONLY rich people are fat?
WHy? i thought we strive for equality. why should we try to make poor people skinny again.
Obesity is a disease, just like Anorexia. We should be providing these people with more healthcare, not more taxes.
Pyramid*
06-10-2011, 12:31 PM
why should fast food be targetted? because it's cheap and it makes a profit?
All delicious food is unhealthy. And NO delicious fod is unhealthy. Because it's not about the food, it's about the AMOUNT OF FOOD.
BTargetting the fast food restauirants is BS because fod at very expensive restaurants is just as unhealthy, the onl;y difference is that it's more expensive.
Why should only rich people be able to eat unhealthy food? it's going back in time, when british kinds and queens were all fat, because fat was a sign of wealth.
SHOULD WE GO BACK TO TIMES WEHRE POOR PEOPLE ARE SKINNY AND ONLY rich people are fart??
WHy? i thought we strive for equality. why should we try to make poor people skinny again.
Obesity is a disease.
We've all had this arguement a zillion times with you lostalex. We know, you think fat people and obese people are ill.
The vast majority are not.
The vast majority of fat people/obsese people are like that due to consuming more calories than the use up. Whether you like that or not, is of no concern to me - but that is FACT.
lostalex
06-10-2011, 12:35 PM
We've all had this arguement a zillion times with you lostalex. We know, you think fat people and obese people are ill.
The vast majority are not.
The vast majority of fat people/obsese people are like that due to consuming more calories than the use up. Whether you like that or not, is of no concern to me - but that is FACT.
yes, so you don;'t think anorexia is a disease too then? Anorexics only suffer because they eat too few calories, so i guess anorexia is not a disease either pyramid?
Pyramid*
06-10-2011, 12:41 PM
yes, so you don;'t think anorexia is a disease too then? Anorexics only suffer because they eat too few calories, so i guess anorexia is not a disease either pyramid?
This isn't a thread about Anorexia vs obesity as far as illness is concerned though lostalex. As I say, we've been through all this before: and I'm not going down this with you on this thread - because that's not what the thread is about. If you want to discuss that quite specifically, I think the best idea would be to start your own thread discussing a topic that's been done to death anyway.
This is about TAXES on Fat Foods. Not on obesity vs anorexia.
Tom4784
06-10-2011, 12:49 PM
It's a nice idea but I don't think it'll work too well in preventing people from becoming overweight but I suppose it'll help towards the healthcare budgets.
Pyramid*
06-10-2011, 12:53 PM
It's a nice idea but I don't think it'll work too well in preventing people from becoming overweight but I suppose it'll help towards the healthcare budgets.
A very crucial point Dezzy.
Tom4784
06-10-2011, 01:03 PM
A better idea if they wanted to fight obesity would be to give organic and healthy foods a tax break. True organic foods tend to be more expensive then the fatty and processed varieties so why don't they go all the way and reduce the tax on them on top of the tax hike for unhealthy food? Make the fatty foods seem more like a luxury once-in-a-while treat while making the healthier foods more accessible.
Pyramid*
06-10-2011, 01:08 PM
Fat Food tax. If people want to eat foods that may cause health risks, which subsequently will cost the NHS money to treat such related problems, then yes: they should pay additional tax.
I smoke: and for any packet of fags I buy; I pay a heft amount straight into the NHS - covering my ass for any medical treatment.
Those who want to live on high fat foods, endangering their health and using up resources from the NHS to deal with such related illnesses due to their lifestyle: should also cough up the dosh.
Tom4784
06-10-2011, 01:08 PM
I've deleted the off topic posts, please keep to the topic at hand people.
arista
06-10-2011, 01:09 PM
A better idea if they wanted to fight obesity would be to give organic and healthy foods a tax break. True organic foods tend to be more expensive then the fatty and processed varieties so why don't they go all the way and reduce the tax on them on top of the tax hike for unhealthy food? Make the fatty foods seem more like a luxury once-in-a-while treat while making the healthier foods more accessible.
Yes help lower good food prices
would be good.
Pyramid*
06-10-2011, 01:09 PM
A better idea if they wanted to fight obesity would be to give organic and healthy foods a tax break. True organic foods tend to be more expensive then the fatty and processed varieties so why don't they go all the way and reduce the tax on them on top of the tax hike for unhealthy food? Make the fatty foods seem more like a luxury once-in-a-while treat while making the healthier foods more accessible.
Geezo.... twice in one hour Dezzy I agree!! *Faints*
Actually, that is an incredibly good point though the one thing I'm not too sure about are the figures on research backing organic being better - though totally with you on the healthy foods part.
Cromwell1900
06-10-2011, 08:23 PM
why should fast food be targetted? because it's cheap and it makes a profit?
All delicious food is unhealthy. And NO delicious fod is healthy. Because it's not about the food, it's about the AMOUNT OF FOOD. French food has way more fat and calories than british food, but British people are fatter, why? because of portions, not because of the food itself.
Targetting the fast food restauirants is BS because food at very expensive restaurants is just as unhealthy, the only difference is that it's more expensive.
Why should only rich people be able to eat unhealthy food? it's going back in time, when british kings and queens were all fat, because fat was a sign of wealth. Look at Victorian times, all people of wealth were fat.
SHOULD WE GO BACK TO TIMES WEHRE POOR PEOPLE ARE SKINNY AND ONLY rich people are fat?
WHy? i thought we strive for equality. why should we try to make poor people skinny again.
Obesity is a disease, just like Anorexia. We should be providing these people with more healthcare, not more taxes.
Yep but too much Healthy food is better than too much Unhealthy food and i'd guess the Danes know it and would admit it's not a fix that they are implementing but rather a reduction in Obesity and i think it will at least do that.
Regarding Taxes disadvantaging the poor, i absolutely agree and it is a pet annoyence of mine from Fuel taxes and road charging, to Cig taxes. Relatively speaking the richer you are the cheaper things get, surely that's a driving force in why "the rich get richer and the poor get poorer". This is why i don't think the Danes have got it right here and should look at the other end of the ladder to find compensation for Obese patients.
Also is Obesity an illness just like Anorexia? it's a relevant question as i would not want to tax people for being ill but as Pyramid says, maybe another thread
Good links.
Let's work on the figures provided by ASH, 9million smokers.
Average that out to approx one each of the 9m smokers buying one packet of 20 fags a day, at a cost of an average £6. That's £54m.
Multipy that with days in a year, and it brings the total to just short of £22million (gross revenue) - so that seems entirely plausible.
Tax on Fast Foods (or Fat Foods) I do think should be the case. They cause a great expense to the NHS, due to the abuse on the body - and should be taxed accordingly - in the same manner as that other damaging product, cigarettes.
What about Lostalex's and my "Fat Kings" argument:spin: can we tempt you over to the dark side? i have cake!:thumbs:
I'd be happy to agree tax is the way to go if only i did not believe that at the heart of all non sliding scaled taxation is unfairness
Pyramid*
06-10-2011, 08:27 PM
Yep but too much Healthy food is better than too much Unhealthy food and i'd guess the Danes know it and would admit it's not a fix that they are implementing but rather a reduction in Obesity and i think it will at least do that.
Regarding Taxes disadvantaging the poor, i absolutely agree and it is a pet annoyence of mine from Fuel taxes and road charging, to Cig taxes. Relatively speaking the richer you are the cheaper things get, surely that's a driving force in why "the rich get richer and the poor get poorer". This is why i don't think the Danes have got it right here and should look at the other end of the ladder to find compensation for Obese patients.
Also is Obesity an illness just like Anorexia? it's a relevant question as i would not want to tax people for being ill but as Pyramid says, maybe another thread
What about Lostalex's and my "Fat Kings" argument:spin: can we tempt you over to the dark side? i have cake!:thumbs:
I'd be happy to agree tax is the way to go if only i did not believe that at the heart of all non sliding scaled taxation is unfairness
You cannot tempt me sir, not with cakes anyway! Chocolate ice-cream, crisps, peanuts and Nutella - and I'll get my cloak. :devil: I also love BBQ spare ribs - do they count?
lostalex
06-10-2011, 08:59 PM
Fat Food tax. If people want to eat foods that may cause health risks, which subsequently will cost the NHS money to treat such related problems, then yes: they should pay additional tax.
Every FOOD causes health risks if you eat too much of it. It's not about WHAT food you eat, it's about HOW MUCH.
The Japnese are some of the slimest people on the planet, but they eat a LOT of rice which has no nutritional value at all, it's pure simple carbs. A Hamburger has more nutritional value than a bowl of rice.
It's about portions and activity level. Not about any specific type of food.
Targeting fast food is just an easy target exploiting people's latent anti-Americanism.
Obesity is an epidemic because we sit on our asses all day and arn';t out in the fields doing manuel labour anymore. It has nothing to do with the food we eat, it has to do with us all have ergonomic office chairs and cushy lounge chairs in front of the TV.
If you want to solve the obesity crisis PUT A TAX ON CHAIRS, not food.
Pyramid*
06-10-2011, 09:16 PM
Every FOOD causes health risks if you eat too much of it. It's not about WHAT food you eat, it's about HOW MUCH.
The Japnese are some of the slimest people on the planet, but they eat a LOT of rice which has no nutritional value at all, it's pure simple carbs. A Hamburger has more nutritional value than a bowl of rice.
It's about portions and activity level. Not about any specific type of food.
Targeting fast food is just an easy target exploiting people's latent anti-Americanism.
Obesity is an epidemic because we sit on our asses all day and arn';t out in the fields doing manuel labour anymore. It has nothing to do with the food we eat, it has to do with us all have ergonomic office chairs and cushy lounge chairs in front of the TV.
If you want to solve the obesity crisis PUT A TAX ON CHAIRS, not food.
The Japanese are one of the healthiest races out. As for calling them the some of the slimiest people on the planet -get a grip lostalex, we have members on here who are Japanese.
Obesity may be an epidemic - but not one borne from illness. It's through eating too much of the wrong stuff and not enough exercise. It's not rocket science.
as for putting tax on chairs - this is meant to be a serious discussion - so there is little point in adddressing anything else you have to say.
lostalex
06-10-2011, 09:18 PM
on a side note, Obese people are not more of a burden on the NHS, because obesity GREATLY reduces ones lifespan, therefore, obese people die earlier, and therefore put LESS burden on the NHS, just like smokers. If obese people only live to 50-60, that's only 50-60 years of treatment on the NHS, skinny people that live to 90-100 are the REAL burden on the NHS, they are receiving almost TWICE the amount of care that obese people receive over their lifespan. So we should have a tax on OLD people by your logic, Old people are the biggest burden on the NHS. The longer someone lives, the more burden they are on the NHS!!!
lostalex
06-10-2011, 09:20 PM
The Japanese are one of the healthiest races out. As for calling them the some of the slimiest people on the planet -get a grip lostalex, we have members on here who are Japanese.
Obesity may be an epidemic - but not one borne from illness. It's through eating too much of the wrong stuff and not enough exercise. It's not rocket science.
as for putting tax on chairs - this is meant to be a serious discussion - so there is little point in adddressing anything else you have to say.
By your logic then Anorexia is not a disease eigther, after all, it's just through eating too few calories and too much exercise. *rolls eyes*
Chuck
06-10-2011, 09:24 PM
I get it now, you're feeling personally offended because adding tax to fast food is making it look as if only American food is unhealthy. It's not about health, it's about people having one more reason to be anti-American.
lostalex
06-10-2011, 09:29 PM
I get it now, you're feeling personally offended because adding tax to fast food is making it look as if only American food is unhealthy. It's not about health, it's about people having one more reason to be anti-American.
I think that is definitely an aspect to it, yes.
Pyramid*
06-10-2011, 09:30 PM
on a side note, Obese people are not more of a burden on the NHS, because obesity GREATLY reduces ones lifespan, therefore, obese people die earlier, and therefore put LESS burden on the NHS, just like smokers. If obese people only live to 50-60, that's only 50-60 years of treatment on the NHS, skinny people that live to 90-100 are the REAL burden on the NHS, they are receiving almost TWICE the amount of care that obese people receive over their lifespan. So we should have a tax on OLD people by your logic, Old people are the biggest burden on the NHS. The longer someone lives, the more burden they are on the NHS!!!
You are rehashing the same old (completely invalid) argument that you tried a few weeks ago, in which you made a fool of yourself - because you know about the NHS system in the UK.
As chuck.pass has just stated, it's coming over very much that you are taking this all so very personal - which by doing so - completely negates your ability to discuss this subject in any reasonable fashion.
Consider yourself ignored for any remaining posts as far as I'm concerned.
lostalex
06-10-2011, 09:38 PM
You are rehashing the same old (completely invalid) argument that you tried a few weeks ago, in which you made a fool of yourself - because you know about the NHS system in the UK.
As chuck.pass has just stated, it's coming over very much that you are taking this all so very personal - which by doing so - completely negates your ability to discuss this subject in any reasonable fashion.
Consider yourself ignored for any remaining posts as far as I'm concerned.
Wait.... You mean you won't be responding to my posts with incoherant nonsense anymore? ummmm, Thank you. :)
(please let it be true)
Cromwell1900
07-10-2011, 05:27 PM
You cannot tempt me sir, not with cakes anyway! Chocolate ice-cream, crisps, peanuts and Nutella - and I'll get my cloak. :devil: I also love BBQ spare ribs - do they count?
An afters being shunned for a Main.... A victoria sponge as well :crazy:
Btw all your favorites bar the Peanuts would be taxable given a Fat Food's Tax. say you add 10p to a packet of Cheese & Onion, would that make Obese people eat less of them? or just make them spend less on essencials like clothe's?
Pyramid*
07-10-2011, 06:27 PM
An afters being shunned for a Main.... A victoria sponge as well :crazy:
Btw all your favorites bar the Peanuts would be taxable given a Fat Food's Tax. say you add 10p to a packet of Cheese & Onion, would that make Obese people eat less of them? or just make them spend less on essencials like clothe's?
Happy to pay that extra fat food tax. I don't live on fat foods - I have them as occasional treat - unlike many others who wouldn't know a healthy diet if it smacked them on the face.
lostalex
08-10-2011, 08:26 PM
A better idea if they wanted to fight obesity would be to give organic and healthy foods a tax break. True organic foods tend to be more expensive then the fatty and processed varieties so why don't they go all the way and reduce the tax on them on top of the tax hike for unhealthy food? Make the fatty foods seem more like a luxury once-in-a-while treat while making the healthier foods more accessible.
LESS money for the government?? lol. that DOES make sense, but for some reason i doubt we'd see MP's voting for that! lol i wonder why???
iRyan
09-10-2011, 12:35 AM
Psh, Denmark doesn't need a law like that, everyone other there is already skinny as it is!
lostalex
09-10-2011, 05:06 AM
Psh, Denmark doesn't need a law like that, everyone other there is already skinny as it is!
How many Danish people have you ever met? ..... yea, that's what I thought... lol
Tom4784
09-10-2011, 11:13 AM
LESS money for the government?? lol. that DOES make sense, but for some reason i doubt we'd see MP's voting for that! lol i wonder why???
Yeah I never said if it was a realistic option but if it was really about health issues you'd think they'd go the whole hog with it.
arista
09-10-2011, 01:59 PM
Psh, Denmark doesn't need a law like that, everyone other there is already skinny as it is!
They need the Law as all Food has changed
so yes they have Fat people in Denmark.
letmein
09-10-2011, 03:51 PM
Nanny State? No Free Will?
Yeah man, wikileaks is totally going to leak some wire on how the government of Denmark is in on some conspiracy to discourage people from eating junk food. 2k12 y2k UFO's 9/11 bigfoot I'M GOING INSANE MAN.
That doesn't even make sense. This is the very definition of a Nanny State. They are making personal decisions for people for them.
letmein
09-10-2011, 03:54 PM
Everybody eats fast food, not only fat people.
Everyone? :crazy:
Uh, no.
Britain does have an obesity epidemic though. It's the fattest country in Europe.
letmein
09-10-2011, 03:56 PM
yes, so you don;'t think anorexia is a disease too then? Anorexics only suffer because they eat too few calories, so i guess anorexia is not a disease either pyramid?
Anorexia is a physiological disorder. It's not the same thing. They see themselves as fat. They're seeing themselves as something they're not. Fat people aren't eating because they think they're too skinny.
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