Should Jay be removed?

[Jordan.]

****ting in freezers and god knows what else disgusting things + now aggressive behaviour punching the place up, could have easily been a housemate if they had walked up to him in the garden. People have been removed for far less in the past.

The only good thing about him staying is possibly another fight night (:amazed:) just feel sorry for whoever has to get smacked in the process.

[ChristmasNeeve]

No, I don't think so. He wasn't directing his aggression towards any of the HMs

[headaball]

No. The Wing Commander isn't finished with him yet.

[InOne]

Put him back in the zoo

[Jordan.]

No, I don't think so. He wasn't directing his aggression towards any of the HMs

Maybe this time. I still don't think it should take someone actually getting hurt for BB to realise he should be removed.

[Novo]

Yes remove him at once

[joeysteele]

Well Harry may drive him away yet. If I was running BB,I would have sent him out for the freezer incident and also the aggression over the shopping and the ketchup incident too.
I think,once he blew his top, someone could get hurt badly at his hands.that's another reason I would cover my back and send him out.

[Locke.]

He spoke about nominations tonight aswell

"Everyone nominate me next week I can't go without food"

Any other series and he'd be getting punished :bored:

[Vicky.]

I honestly do think if this show was still c4s he would have been chucked out a while ago.

[ChristmasNeeve]

Maybe this time. I still don't think it should take someone actually getting hurt for BB to realise he should be removed.

Yeah, but he wasn't threatening anyone except a cushion. I don't like him either but lets be fair here

[Jordan.]

He spoke about nominations tonight aswell

"Everyone nominate me next week I can't go without food"

Any other series and he'd be getting punished :bored:

Putting him up for the next eviction would fit nicely

[Vicky.]

No, I don't think so. He wasn't directing his aggression towards any of the HMs

Maybe not, but he shows he has definite, and quite bad also, anger issues. A little too much alcohol and all hell could break loose ;)

[ChristmasNeeve]

He spoke about nominations tonight aswell

"Everyone nominate me next week I can't go without food"

Any other series and he'd be getting punished :bored:

he probably will be punished for that, hopefully they won't let him nominate

[vesavius]

Yes he should.

All his previous vilness aside, I believe no one in there will now cross him now due to feeling physically threatened, especially now they have seen the sheer depth of his violent rage.

No one in that house should ever feel contolled by the violent actions of another HM.

[Merry Mockmas]

I 100% think he should be removed as his shat in a freezer,pissed on Mark multiple times and in the dairy room on tonights highlights he threatened to kick Harrys head in.

Gosh I know his there chosen one this year but where is Big Brothers morales? I know Big Brother doesnt have the most morales in the world but housemates in the past have been punished for setting a camera on fire that was inflammable anyway,and for agressive behaviour which is what Jay does aswell but weirdly he gets away with it as usual.

[Jordan.]

Yeah, but he wasn't threatening anyone except a cushion. I don't like him either but lets be fair here

He shouldn't have had to even smack up the pillow, they've obviously put someone in there who can't handle their anger and HAS to take it out on something/someone.

Any normal person can keep it in control. I honestly think if Harry had gone near him Jay wouldn't have stopped himself.

[Visage]

Yes he should be kicked off the show. I still think it's disgusting he peed on Mark in the shower.

[Callum]

Yes, I think anyone who ****s in the freezer should be removed, even if it was my favorite housemate I wouldn't want them to stay in there if they had done something as vile as that.

[Samuel.]

He spoke about nominations tonight aswell

"Everyone nominate me next week I can't go without food"

Any other series and he'd be getting punished :bored:

Really does annoy me how they're not getting punished for talking about noms. And the few times they were, wearing a costume is hardly punishing.

[In the Drunk Tank]

People moan about BB being all PC and stuff and booting people out to readily and then they go and want Jay to be kicked out over a few trivial matters :bored:

[Callum]

People moan about BB being all PC and stuff and booting people out to readily and then they go and want Jay to be kicked out over a few trivial matters :bored:

****ting in a freezer is hardly something trivial though is it?

[billy123]

Dont be so ridiculous.
He hasnt done anything wrong there are a few people on here making up the story as they go along.
Is the show now so boring without live feed that we make up a storyline to make it more interesting?

[joeysteele]

He shouldn't have had to even smack up the pillow, they've obviously put someone in there who can't handle their anger and HAS to take it out on something/someone.

Any normal person can keep it in control. I honestly think if Harry had gone near him Jay wouldn't have stopped himself.

Definately Jordan, you and JF make very valid points here.

Your point as to Harry being anywhere close to him,I do believe that he would have lashed out at Harry and something really nasty could have happened.

Mind,I am not sure Jay would have come off best there, Harry only likely needed to push him over and by the time he got back up he would have likely been puffing and panting and wheezing so much he would have needed to sit down right off.

[In the Drunk Tank]

****ting in a freezer is hardly something trivial though is it?

Yes I think it is, sure it's disgusting but it's just a stupid dare and even with that Heaven still seemed to think he was "really cool" or something like that, didn't seem to have any real detrimental affect on things

[Merry Mockmas]

People moan about BB being all PC and stuff and booting people out to readily and then they go and want Jay to be kicked out over a few trivial matters :bored:

Warning number 1 - ****ting in the freezer.

Warning number 2 - pissing on Mark multiple times.

The time I would chuck him out the house - threatening to kick Harrys head in on tonights highlights in the dairy room.

Imo them things are not trivial matters as they are either disgusting acts or aggressive and violent behaviour.

[SoberLikeGizmo]

Yes he should be

1. Hes a dick

2. If he does stay please use subtitles when ever he speaks, still cant understand what he says.... well maybe thats a good thing

[Visage]

People moan about BB being all PC and stuff and booting people out to readily and then they go and want Jay to be kicked out over a few trivial matters :bored:

I've not moaned about BB being all PC.

[Merry Mockmas]

Yes I think it is, sure it's disgusting but it's just a stupid dare and even with that Heaven still seemed to think he was "really cool" or something like that, didn't seem to have any real detrimental affect on things

Its still personal hygene and peoples food would have been in there when he decided to crap in there.

BTW where would he put the toilet roll when he shat in the freezer?:eek:

[joeysteele]

Yes he should be

1. Hes a dick

2. If he does stay please use subtitles when ever he speaks, still cant understand what he says.... well maybe thats a good thing

As to 2 in your post above, you are not missing much,if it's not foul language,then it's dirty minded fantasising with loads of disrespect added for women too.

[rk3388]

ew peeing on mark is disgusting, he should get warnings for it, but i dont know if kicked out yet...

[joeysteele]

Its still personal hygene and peoples food would have been in there when he decided to crap in there.

BTW where would he put the toilet roll when he shat in the freezer?:eek:

Totally right, it would have been a hygiene matter, it was and should have been a massive deal.

It was totally disgusting and who really would want to be in a house with anyone who thought that was funny or acceptable, I certainly wouldn't.

[Patrick]

No.

Whilst I support him, I did feel he was abit OTT and ridiculous tonight but you lot fail to understand - the guy literally NEEDS protein and now he won't have that for a week, he had every right to go mental.

If I was in there with him, I'd probably be sh*tting myself.

But he shouldn't be removed, has he gone down abit in my view? Yes.

As Jordan said though, I'd love to see him knock someone out and a massive fight to kick off - but what would it matter now that all the good housemates are slowly dieing off.

We'd probably have him decking Sir Harry, and then Alex and Tom running around in circles screaming, Aden trying to break it up and Faye in the corner bawling her bollocks off - that's how this series will end up.

[Suze]

Yes he should be removed, but he won't be. All Jay wrongdoings will be brushed under the BB carpet to make way for his win or runner up position that BB want so bad for him.

[Merry Mockmas]

Yes he should be removed, but he won't be. All Jay wrongdoings will be brushed under the BB carpet to make way for his win or runner up position that BB want so bad for him.

I agree and its a sad state of affairs really.

[vesavius]

If I was in there with him, I'd probably be sh*tting myself.


Patrick... you have nicely summed up the reason he SHOULD be removed.

None of the other HMs should be forced to live in a house of unstable violent intimidation.

Did you see their faces? They were genuinely scared.

They didnt sign up for that.

[joeysteele]

Patrick... you have nicely summed up the reason he SHOULD be removed.

None of the other HMs should be forced to live in a house of unstable violent intimidation.

Did you see their faces? They were genuinely scared.

They didnt sign up for that.

Totally agree and I think a lot more of his aggressive behaviour has been edited out too.

Mark on OK TV tonight said there had been massive arguments after housemates had been drinking that we had never seen at all. That he had tried to get away from them but still got pulled in.

He didn't name anyone but who drinks the most anyway in there.

[Jords]

Yeah for the lulz (seriously no.. but I wouldnt care that much)

[PrincessIona]

He should definitely be removed. If the freezer incedent and weeing repeatedly on Mark isn't enough, he behaviour tonight was out of order. You can be arrested and charged with a thread of violence so why in the BB house is it ok?

I'm not an easily intimidated person and I don't tiptoe around people to avoid confrontation but if I was in the house with Jay right now thats exactly what I would be doing. I would probably go to the diary room and tell them I felt intimidated and threatened by him in the hope they would do something about it!

[Patrick]

.

Gosh I know his there chosen one this year .

Wrong.

That is Alex.

[bopeep123]

He shouldn't have had to even smack up the pillow, they've obviously put someone in there who can't handle their anger and HAS to take it out on something/someone.

Any normal person can keep it in control. I honestly think if Harry had gone near him Jay wouldn't have stopped himself.


I am a normal person and if someone messed with my food I'd be hitting a cushion too. One day, ok, but a whole week is just wrong.

[Merry Mockmas]

Wrong.

That is Alex.

Until tonight who had been getting edited like they was a saint when they was no such thing? the answer is Jay as they didnt show him stealing Aarons booze,****ting in the freezer,pissing on Mark and I bet they wont show him shaving his ass up the camera tommorrow either.

[billy123]

Until tonight who had been getting edited like they was a saint when they was no such thing? the answer is Jay as they didnt show him stealing Aarons booze,****ting in the freezer,pissing on Mark and I bet they wont show him shaving his ass up the camera tommorrow either.

I worry about you sometimes.

[Roy Mars III]

Yeah, chuck him out.

[Merry Mockmas]

I worry about you sometimes.

Alright maybe not show him doing some of the cruder things,but mentioning that it happened so the general public that dont go on the forums know would be nice.

[Chuck]

No, I don't think so. He wasn't directing his aggression towards any of the HMs

This.

[In the Drunk Tank]

What did Jay even do wrong tonight :bored: He expressed a human emotion by showing some anger and did the right thing by taking it out on a pillow instead of actually making it affect the whole house

[Jordan.]

What did Jay even do wrong tonight :bored: He expressed a human emotion by showing some anger and did the right thing by taking it out on a pillow instead of actually making it affect the whole house

When I get angry I don't start destroying food and punching pillows in I deal with it and move on :crazy:

[billy123]

Alright maybe not show him doing some of the cruder things,but mentioning that it happened so the general public that dont go on the forums know would be nice.
:joker:
Basically though they have shown us all the things you listed except the one that nobody knows if it happened and if it did do you really think they held it back for any other reason than it wasnt broadcastable?
Common sense tells us that there will be things happening every single day by every housemate that is not fit for tv yet you have a bee in your bonnet about something that might not exist but seems to get embellished every time somebody repeats it.

[In the Drunk Tank]

When I get angry I don't start destroying food and punching pillows in I deal with it and move on :crazy:

Well that was just Jay's method of dealing with it and taking out his frustration, I really can't see the problem with what he did, not like he used Harry as a punch bag :shrug:

[The Human Santapede]

Punching a pillow is not harming housemates, that's obviously his strategy to vent anger. Jay didn't hit Harry, he may have wanted to, but the fact, despite his rage, he hit a pillow instead shows that he has some control over his anger.

[Jordan.]

Well that was just Jay's method of dealing with it and taking out his frustration, I really can't see the problem with what he did, not like he used Harry as a punch bag :shrug:

And that's the problem. If someone has to take their anger out physically they shouldn't be in a BB enviroment.

[Jordan.]

Punching a pillow is not harming housemates, that's obviously his strategy to vent anger. Jay didn't hit Harry, he may have wanted to, but the fact, despite his rage, he hit a pillow instead shows that he has some control over his anger.

Had BB provided alcohol earlier than they did would this still have been the case?

[The Human Santapede]

And that's the problem. If someone has to take their anger out physically they shouldn't be in a BB enviroment.

You need to learn the difference between taking it out physically on an inanimate object and a person; two very separate things.

[Locke.]

Harry will knock him out anyway http://www.vapersforum.com/images/smilies/costumed-smiley-091.gif

[Merry Mockmas]

:joker:
Basically though they have shown us all the things you listed except the one that nobody knows if it happened and if it did do you really think they held it back for any other reason than it wasnt broadcastable?
Common sense tells us that there will be things happening every single day by every housemate that is not fit for tv yet you have a bee in your bonnet about something that might not exist but seems to get embellished every time somebody repeats it.

Mark being pissed on by Jay was only shown on BBBOTS which doesnt even get 1 million viewers,neither was the stealing of Aarons booze shown on the highlights either.

And if Heaven,Rebeckah and Mark (kind of) have said that Jay shat in the freezer,then he shat in the freezer simple as.

[Chuck]

This clearly isn't a fair thread.

[The Human Santapede]

Had BB provided alcohol earlier than they did would this still have been the case?

That we'll never know, but you can't chuck him out for speculating what may happen, that's ridiculous.

[spitfire]

He is a dick but should only be removed once he is up.

[Supernovarolla]

True, Jay sh*tting in the freezer is disgusting if it's true, but what else has he done that warrants his removal from the house? There has been no evidence of him being violent to anyone and all the housemates that have left the house so far have expressed that they like him, including Mark.

He may have lost his rag over Harry's prank, but he calmed down and saw the funny side of it in the end; and to be fair, Harry was the first out of the two of them to lose his temper in the house. Even when Aaron and Harry were deliberately trying to sabotage the task, Jay found it funny and was laughing at Aaron's quips in the office.

I'm with a lot of others who find this forum's bizarre hatred of a housemate, based on Chinese whispers circulated by posters on here without a shred of evidence, more than a tad odd. What's a matter? Are the male posters on here all 'jelus' [sic]? Which is only what they would accuse the females of being if they did this to one of the female housemates. ;)

[In the Drunk Tank]

And that's the problem. If someone has to take their anger out physically they shouldn't be in a BB enviroment.

I think it's a credit to him that even in a BB environment he refrains from directing anger at other housemates, outside of the house it's hardly an unusual method of taking out frustration and lot's of people use a punch bag, Jay hasn't been able to do any of his normal work out/fitness routine which is obviously pretty important to him but he's still managed to keep a level head

Punching a pillow is not harming housemates, that's obviously his strategy to vent anger. Jay didn't hit Harry, he may have wanted to, but the fact, despite his rage, he hit a pillow instead shows that he has some control over his anger.

I know you're far from a Jay fan but well said, I agree

[Roy Mars III]

He is a dick but should only be removed once he is up.

An Aaron and Jay head to head eviction next week with Jay leaving. Wonderful.

[Chuck]

I don't remember anyone saying that Nikki or Shabby should be removed from the house for punching pillows, but it's Jay right, he's big and threatening... punching a pillow is punching a pillow, it doesn't matter who did it.

[Jordan.]

You need to learn the difference between taking it out physically on an inanimate object and a person; two very separate things.

I don't need to learn anything. He shouldn't be in BB if he has to take any anger out physically whether it be directed at a person or object.

One of the rules in BB is against aggressive behaviour which is exactly what it was.

[Vicky.]

the guy literally NEEDS protein and now he won't have that for a week, he had every right to go mental.


They have unlimited access to chick peas and lentils which are both excellent sources of protein. :idc:

[Jordan.]

I don't remember anyone saying that Nikki or Shabby should be removed from the house for punching pillows, but it's Jay right, he's big and threatening... punching a pillow is punching a pillow, it doesn't matter who did it.

Nikki admitted herself she was too unstable for the house and only got in through lying in the psychiatry test.

[Merry Mockmas]

True, Jay sh*tting in the freezer is disgusting if it's true, but what else has he done that warrants his removal from the house? There has been no evidence of him being violent to anyone and all the housemates that have left the house so far have expressed that they like him, including Mark.

He may have lost his rag over Harry's prank, but he calmed down and found the funny side to it in the end; and to be fair, Harry was the first out of the two of them to lose his temper in the house.

I'm with a lot of others who find this forum's bizarre hatred of a housemate, based on chinese whispers circulated by poster's on here without a shred of evidence, more than a tad odd. What's a matter? Are the male posters on here all 'jelus' [sic] or something Which is only what they would accuse the females of being if they did this to one of the female housemates. ;)

1. Pissing on Mark.

2. threatening to kick Harrys head in,in the dairy room as that is violent behaviour.

[In the Drunk Tank]

I don't remember anyone saying that Nikki or Shabby should be removed from the house for punching pillows, but it's Jay right, he's big and threatening... punching a pillow is punching a pillow, it doesn't matter who did it.

Yeah like when Shabby was in the nest chucking stuff around, that's taking out your anger physically, why wasnt she kicked out? :mad:

[The Human Santapede]

I don't need to learn anything. He shouldn't be in BB if he has to take any anger out physically whether it be directed at a person or object.

One of the rules in BB is against aggressive behaviour which is exactly what it was.


Oh, give over. If it was a punchbag he had hit, nobody would bat an eyelid, but he doesn't have access to a punchbag so hit a pillow. If he had hit a housemate then I would agree to chuck him out, but removing him on the assumption that he may hit somebody because he hit a pillow is the most ridiculous thing I'er ever heard.

[Chuck]

I don't need to learn anything. He shouldn't be in BB if he has to take any anger out physically whether it be directed at a person or object.

One of the rules in BB is against aggressive behaviour which is exactly what it was.

You sound like Vinnie mocking Alex for punching the snowman. :bored:

[The Human Santapede]

Yeah like when Shabby was in the nest chucking stuff around, that's taking out your anger physically, why wasnt she kicked out? :mad:

And when Sissy kicked the furniture over and when Ahmed smashed plates.

[Chuck]

And when Sissy kicked the furniture over and when Ahmed smashed plates.

Exactly. But as I said, this isn't a fair thread.

[Sophiee]

as much as I dislike him, he shouldn't be removed for doing what he did.

[Jordan.]

Oh, give over. If it was a punchbag he had hit, nobody would bat an eyelid, but he doesn't have access to a punchbag so hit a pillow. If he had hit a housemate then I would agree to chuck him out, but removing him on the assumption that he may hit somebody because he hit a pillow is the most ridiculous thing I'er ever heard.

Okay let him be removed him on the FACT he's a vile **** who ****s in freezers as that was also part of the reason I gave in the OP.

[billy123]

Im no fan of jay but i find this thread and a few others utterly ridiculous you can see some of the stupid accusations being added to as time goes on it is laughable now everything is getting the words "multiple times" added to it.
as i said im not a fan of jay but some of the things been said about him are outright lies and we all know the reason for the majority of it doesnt really stem from true disgust its people trying to make him look bad to defend gimpy Aaron.

Which is a shame because some of his behaviour is going to get swept under the carpet now because all people can see is a few people with an agenga being silly.

[Jordan.]

Bill made a very good point. Jay is your least favourite housemate and you're trying to tell people that he should be removed for something he didn't do, that's favouritism.

What didn't he do?

[Chuck]

Its all so stupid really because some of his behaviour might have been not great but now its just been buried amongst this wave of people being silly.

I'm a Jay fan and I'm the first to admit he sometimes sounds vulgar and disgusting, but let's be fair, removing a housemate for punching a pillow which is exactly what he did is a bit too much.

[Chuck]

What didn't he do?

He didn't punch anybody, he wasn't physically aggressive towards anybody therefore he shouldn't be removed for aggressive behaviour.

[Josy]

I deleted some posts in here, keep on topic please and don't accuse other members of being haters or bias just because they have different opinions.

[billy123]

I'm a Jay fan and I'm the first to admit he sometimes sounds vulgar and disgusting, but let's be fair, removing a housemate for punching a pillow which is exactly what he did is a bit too much.I dont mind jay at all and some of things he says that are vulgar dont bother me either most of it is funny but no he has done nothing wrong at all this thread is just daft.

[Chuck]

I dont mind jay at all and some of things he says that are vulgar dont bother me either most of it is funny but no he has done nothing wrong at all this thread is just daft.

Most of the things he does don't offend me at all, but I understand that other people may have different opinions and I respect that. It's fair to say he's vulgar when he says certain things but It's not fair to suggest he should be removed for having a tantrum.

[Novo]

1) Throwing something at the house from the Garden ( which could have hit someone i think Lord Aaron was walking by at the time imagine it hitting him ) not only should Jay have been removed for that but he would have also been given two black eyes on the outside by Aaron

Strike I

2) Punching a Cushion and prentending it was Harry infront off Minors.. poor faye and Alex are only teenagers it would have frightened the life out of them

Strike II

3) Wrecking Harry's property by squirting tomato ketchup all over his clothes which is also against Big Brother Rules

Strike III


He should be out that house right now

[Cromwell1900]

1) Throwing something at the house from the Garden ( which could have hit someone i think Lord Aaron was walking by at the time imagine it hitting him ) not only should Jay have been removed for that but he would have also been given two black eyes on the outside by Aaron

Strike I

2) Punching a Cushion and prentending it was Harry infront off Minors.. poor faye and Alex are only teenagers it would have frightened the life out of them

Strike II

3) Wrecking Harry's property by squirting tomato ketchup all over his clothes which is also against Big Brother Rules

Strike III


He should be out that house right now

This is the best argument for Jay's dismissal iv heard all night:joker:

[billy123]

1) Throwing something at the house from the Garden ( which could have hit someone i think Lord Aaron was walking by at the time imagine it hitting him ) not only should Jay have been removed for that but he would have also been given two black eyes on the outside by Aaron

Strike I

2) Punching a Cushion and prentending it was Harry infront off Minors.. poor faye and Alex are only teenagers it would have frightened the life out of them

Strike II

3) Wrecking Harry's property by squirting tomato ketchup all over his clothes which is also against Big Brother Rules

Strike III


He should be out that house right nowThats more like it accusing him of silly things is fine and brings a bit of humour to a thread that is so daft it must of meant to be a joke.
its just the wrongly trying to attack somebodys character just to try and turn people against them that gets peoples backs up.

[Pyramid*]

He is now being destructive - ruining good food and continuing to do so, damaging people's belongings etc. This is completely out of order. he should be removed.

[billy123]

He is now being destructive - ruining good food and continuing to do so, damaging people's belongings etc. This is completely out of order. he should be removed.Over reacting much?
I know he gets the womens lib departments backs up at times but do try to be reasonable and not over react.

[Jordan.]

Thats more like it accusing him of silly things is fine and brings a bit of humour to thread.
its just the wrongly trying to attack somebodys character just to try and turn people against them that gets peoples backs up.

Obviously you think it was done 'wrongly' because you have a different opinion on the matter :sleep:

[billy123]

Obviously you think it was done 'wrongly' because you have a different opinion on the matter :sleep:
ummm yes thats how disagreeing usually works isnt it or have i missed something :conf:

[Pyramid*]

Over reacting much?
I know he gets the womens lib departments backs up at times but do try to be reasonable and not over react.


I will react however I want - he should be chucked out. And pronto.

[Novo]

I wouldn't be surprised if he does something to get himself thrown out pretty soon he obviously can't handle things very well it's only a matter of time before he explodes

[billy123]

I will react however I want - he should be chucked out. And pronto.
7 injured bananas,3 pairs of discoloured underpants and an off-white t-shirt arent usually grounds for being thrown out of the house but if thats your opinion then your welcome to it :joker:

[InOne]

If you mess with the Wing Commander you get removed. I can't put it much more simple than that really.

[Jordan.]

ummm yes thats how disagreeing usually works isnt it or have i missed something :conf:

Not when you put it like your opinion is fact :idc:

[Pyramid*]

7 injured bananas,3 pairs of discoloured underpants and an off-white t-shirt arent usually grounds for being thrown out of the house but if thats your opinion then your welcome to it :joker:


And the fact that he's now destroying the other foodstuffs - food that was bought - food that EVERYONE is now going to lose out on.

Yeah, clearly that's hilarious.

[billy123]

Not when you put it like your opinion is fact :idc:
Im not sure how long ago your spaceship landed here but here on earth we call that arguing your point.

[billy123]

And the fact that he's now destroying the other foodstuffs - food that was bought - food that EVERYONE is now going to lose out on.

Yeah, clearly that's hilarious.Thats what he is doing now is it or did he bin a few things before him and harry hugged and made friends yesterday and buried the hatchet over that incident.

[Jordan.]

Im not sure how long ago your spaceship landed here but here on earth we call that arguing your point.

Yeah okay :sleep:

I'm not carrying this on, you tried getting involved too late i'm afraid, idc now.

[billy123]

Anyway ladys and gentlemen as fun as its been im away to watch videos of jay stabbing stray dogs with a penknife and setting fire to the orphanage next door.
night night :)

[In the Drunk Tank]

Why is it not considered as bad when Aaron kicks off when he's angry, when someone ate his cupcake icing he started chucking something about. Anger is a perfectly natural emotion and one that's probably even harder to deal with in that environment, you just have to get rid of it as best you can and Jay managed to do that without troubling any of the other house mates

[Novo]

Why is it not considered as bad when Aaron kicks off when he's angry, when someone ate his cupcake icing he started chucking something about. Anger is a perfectly natural emotion and one that's probably even harder to deal with in that environment, you just have to get rid of it as best you can and Jay managed to do that without troubling any of the other house mates

Aaron threw a used tea bag on the floor.. Jay threw what appeared to be a brick from the house in the direction of Harry who it would have it bang on the forehead if he wasn't behind the glass door

[Pyramid*]

Thats what he is doing now is it or did he bin a few things before him and harry hugged and made friends yesterday and buried the hatchet over that incident.

You mean like emptying all the sugar, emptying the jars of coffee into the bin, getting the tea bags and putting them all into the bin as well.....yesterday: anything else.

or

BBUKLive: 2316: Jay is putting Ketchup into the frosted flakes!! Oh no! #BBUKLIVE
06-10-2011 11:17 PM


Oh, and the plural of lady, is ladies. ;)

[Pyramid*]

Why is it not considered as bad when Aaron kicks off when he's angry, when someone ate his cupcake icing he started chucking something about. Anger is a perfectly natural emotion and one that's probably even harder to deal with in that environment, you just have to get rid of it as best you can and Jay managed to do that without troubling any of the other house mates


Because it's been done (jay) with aggressive, and destructive maliciousness - in the way that Jay has been doing since the shopping was delivered, and in that he continuing to do.

[In the Drunk Tank]

Aaron threw a used tea bag on the floor.. Jay threw what appeared to be a brick from the house in the direction of Harry who it would have it bang on the forehead if he wasn't behind the glass door

Well I never noticed him chucking a brick :laugh: Seems everyone's more annoyed because he punched a pillow

[Novo]

Locke told me it was a Brick and i looked again on youtube and does look like a brick

[Josy]

Aaron threw a used tea bag on the floor.. Jay threw what appeared to be a brick from the house in the direction of Harry who it would have it bang on the forehead if he wasn't behind the glass door

Was it not a bar of chocolate?

[billy123]

Oh, and the plural of lady, is ladies. ;)
And there it is a last ditch attempt to claw something back a sure sign of desperation is to get on the grammar horse :nono:
I thought you were better than that ;)
night night.

[Novo]

No a brown colored brick

[Vicky.]

Well I never noticed him chucking a brick :laugh: Seems everyone's more annoyed because he punched a pillow

I think this may be a slight exaggeration of the chocolate bar :laugh:

[Pyramid*]

And there it is a last ditch attempt to claw something back a sure sign of desperation is to get on the grammar horse :nono:
I thought you were better than that ;)
night night.


I thought better of you too before your woman's lib comment. ;) so there you go!

[Vicky.]

Im actually proper giggling at 'what appeared to be a brick' :joker:

[Josy]

Im actually proper giggling at 'what appeared to be a brick' :joker:

:joker::joker:

[Pyramid*]

Im actually proper giggling at 'what appeared to be a brick' :joker:

When he chucked something when they were sitting out at the smoking chairs - I thought he was going to have a coronary - bars of chocolate getting flung about! Man's crackers.

[LivT]

I wouldn't say this was an unfair thread, at all; the heading of which is Should Jay be removed? All I see is people airing their opinions, which no doubt doesn't stem from ... the fridge incident.. or the punching debacle, alone.... but on Jay's character as a whole. With every viewer, opinions are based upon how the Hm portrays himself/herself . People here are just breaking down his traits/behaviour pattern and the way he projects himself and concluding that, yes, he should be removed ...he has got away with behaviour that doesn't warrant his place as a housemate anymore

[Locke.]

It was indeed a brick from the top of the garden wall which he had just spent the previous 3 minutes chipping away at

[Angus]

No, I don't think so. He wasn't directing his aggression towards any of the HMs

Well he stated in the diary room that he wanted to kick Harry's head in so I think BB would have been left in no doubt as to whom he was directing his aggression.

[Angus]

Jay is an intimidating figure when he's angry and unlike Aaron when he threw a strop, he doesn't remove himself from a situation, but continues to confront people and vocalise his grievances like a 2 year old. To say he didn't direct his anger and malice towards any individual is to be disingenuous. I can imagine he would have thought nothing of knocking Harry out on the outside of the house, but instead he took his frustration out by stamping on the food, chucking it in bins, punching cushions etc, and stomping around the house like a bloody toddler.

I bet the people on here defending this overbearing thug would be the first to complain in the outside world if he behaved like that. I'm surprised BB let him get away with that comment about wanting to assault Harry in the DR, without giving him a strong warning to tone down his aggression. He always seems to be on a short fuse. I hope his lack of self control will be his downfall and that the blinkers fall from his supporters' eyes. Such a total knob should not be in the final, let alone be the winner.

[Patricia4]

I dont like anything about that guy he is vile.

[Gary2010]

I think he should stay a bit longer, it gives us something to talk about, apart from Harrys shopping spree.

I don't know why some housemates haven't been to big brother to complain about him though he seems very controlling and intimidating, maybe some new housemates would stir it up, another alpha male would be good to watch.

[ChristmasNeeve]

Well he stated in the diary room that he wanted to kick Harry's head in so I think BB would have been left in no doubt as to whom he was directing his aggression.

Oh come on, he said it in the Diary Room. I'm quite sure every one of us have said things like that before without meaning it. I can't believe I'm actually defending Jay here, but people are over reacting and it is purely because he's the biggest and most menacing looking HM in there.

I'll be honest I found Harrys shopping prank hilarious cos I'm outside and it's a bit of entertainment, but If I was in there I know I'd be so angry if I had to live off Bananas and Cereal for the week.

[chuff me dizzy]

Without a doubt, he needed removing for the freezer incident, never mind the violence ,what a tosspot ,let him take Louise with him

[Pink Pegasus]

Just finished watched the last 2 parts of last night's episodes, and I would have to say No I don't think Jay should be kicked out.
He was fuming over the food. I would have been too.
As Tom, Faye and I think one or two others said, him punching the pillow was actually a good way of him getting rid of his anger.
I've heard loads of times that hitting a pillow is a healthy, nonviolent way of releasing pent up aggression.
He calmed down eventually and went to talk with Harry.
Throwing out the coffee and stomping on a few of the bananas was a bit petty, but nothing was done that warrants being thrown out imo.

[Pink Pegasus]

Oh come on, he said it in the Diary Room. I'm quite sure every one of us have said things like that before without meaning it. I can't believe I'm actually defending Jay here, but people are over reacting and it is purely because he's the biggest and most menacing looking HM in there.

I'll be honest I found Harrys shopping prank hilarious cos I'm outside and it's a bit of entertainment, but If I was in there I know I'd be so angry if I had to live off Bananas and Cereal for the week.

This is a good point. He didn't directly threaten Harry. Not like when Tom said to Aaron, "if we weren't in this house, I'd punch your lights out", or when Aden threatened violence to Aaron during the task.
They weren't thrown out, so I don't see why Jay would be thrown out for saying how he felt privately in the diary room, then going outside hitting a pillow, calming down and going to talk to Harry.

[Visage]

If I was in there I know I'd be so angry if I had to live off Bananas and Cereal for the week.

Think of all the different coloured cereal you could eat.

[Raven]

1) Freezer incident? There was no freezer incident, just speculation upon things none of Us know (Given His reaction to food NO way he would jepordise the food supply in there, end of!)

2) Blowing off steam in a way that is not harmful to another is not a bad thing, surely better than the alternative!

3) There are many people that annoy us to the point we might want to smack them in the mouth, but we deal with that anger in a more healthy way (Most of the time)

4) saying what he did in the diary room is worse than what Tom said to aaron in what way exactly?

get real folks, no he shouldn't be removed, he hasn't done anything too be removed.

[ChristmasNeeve]

Think of all the different coloured cereal you could eat.

lmao I'd have killed him, I hate cereal, not a fan of bananas either :laugh:

[Bojangles]

Yes he should.

All his previous vilness aside, I believe no one in there will now cross him now due to feeling physically threatened, especially now they have seen the sheer depth of his violent rage.

No one in that house should ever feel contolled by the violent actions of another HM.

That's the point Jay didn't threaten anyone.He took his anger out on a cushion,so he is able to control his anger.
What have we seen on BBBOTS for weeks."When is someone going to stir things up and cause conflict".Soon as you get that you are asking for the person to be removed from the house.
You can't have it both ways.

[arista]

****ting in freezers and god knows what else disgusting things + now aggressive behaviour punching the place up, could have easily been a housemate if they had walked up to him in the garden. People have been removed for far less in the past.

The only good thing about him staying is possibly another fight night (:amazed:) just feel sorry for whoever has to get smacked in the process.



No as its not on TV
only Heaven saying it.

[LivT]

What had that poor pillow done to deserve any of it? That's what I want to know :shrug:

[Incensed]

No as its not on TV
only Heaven saying it.

And Rebeckah saying it did happen, and Mark when asked said 'No Comment' If it didn't happen, why didn't Mark just say so?

[Pyramid*]

And Rebeckah saying it did happen, and Mark when asked said 'No Comment' If it didn't happen, why didn't Mark just say so?


Or why didn't Mark say, "What on earth are you talking about?"......

Like the sh*t in the freezer, it stinks.

[Incensed]

Or why didn't Mark say, "What on earth are you talking about?"......

Like the sh*t in the freezer, it stinks.

Exactly, and also, why did Ch 5 edit the vid of Heaven saying it did happen?

Like you say, it stinks!

[joeysteele]

BB would have right off denied it happened had it not but they know some housemates knew of it and they would challenge that.
BB would have then been inappropriately helping the cause of a particular BB housemate to the detriment of the others other than just doing positive selective editing.

That is the clearest proof needed it did happen. 2 housemates free of the house who intensely dislike each other agree on that issue,another made no comment but wasn't even surprised the issue was raised. No detective needed to work this one out.

[Pyramid*]

BB would have right off denied it happened had it not but they know some housemates knew of it and they would challenge that.
BB would have then been inappropriately helping the cause of a particular BB housemate to the detriment of the others other than just doing positive selective editing.

That is the clearest proof needed it did happen. 2 housemates free of the house who intensely dislike each other agree on that issue,another made no comment but wasn't even surprised the issue was raised. No detective needed to work this one out.


Agreed Joey. Two ex-hms who loathe each other would not individually corroborate a story like this if there wasn't truth to it, and a third ex-hm would wonder what the hell people were talking about, if it didn't happen.

It's shoddy beyond belief, as well as favouritism to Jay as far as BB is concerned. All they are doing is putting another few concrete bricks around the neck of the show - this is the very thing that viewers and fans loathe, and why it began sinking over the years.

if they continue down this path: fans will finally have enough and go view something else.

[vesavius]

Why is it not considered as bad when Aaron kicks off when he's angry

You are honestly comparing the two?

C'mon...

Jay managed to do that without troubling any of the other house mates

He very much troubled them.

Watch it again today and examine the terse and nervous atmosphere and the look on Faye's face. And that was just from the tiny part we saw. His rage lasted for well over an hour at boiling point level. That isn't normal or safe.

Jay obviously has anger issues, is unstable and potentiolly very dangerous to the other HMs.

When will he have crossed the line for you? When he beats Harry or someone else half to death? Luckily he hadn't had much to drink inlast night's show, but what about next time that rage rises and he has?

BB are fools if they keep him in there imo. He is an assault waiting to happen.

[In the Drunk Tank]

You are honestly comparing the two?

C'mon...



He very much troubled them.

Watch it again today and examine the terse and nervous atmosphere and the look on Faye's face. And that was just from the tiny part we saw. His rage lasted for well over an hour at boiling point level. That isn't normal or safe.

Jay obviously has anger issues, is unstable and potentiolly very dangerous to the other HMs.

When will he have crossed the line for you? When he beats Harry or someone else half to death? Luckily he hadn't had much to drink inlast night's show, but what about next time that rage rises and he has?

BB are fools if they keep him in there imo. He is an assault waiting to happen.

You make it sound like it's only a tiny step from punching a pillow to beating Harry half to death! Talk about sensationalising things, Jay didn't lay a finger on anybody and using something like a punch bag is a common way of venting your frsutration. Like someone said elsewhere what about when Shabby was going crazy chucking stuff around the nest, or when Ahmed was smashing up plates? The latter especially is much more destructive and aggressive then merely hitting a pillow

I hardly see how he has anger issues because he got a pissed off, he didn't even really go mental at anybody, and anger is probably something even harder to deal with in that environment as well. To be honest Aden's comments in the toy factory task telling Aaron he was "such a w**ker" and saying would get Jay to beat him up or something were a lot worse than what Jay did last night

[Tom4784]

I can't stand him, the attitude with the food enraged me, If I was in the house I'd have made him eat the bananas he stamped on. He's an ape and he's pretty much ruined any chance he had. Complete tool.

[vesavius]

You make it sound like it's only a tiny step from punching a pillow to beating Harry half to death! Talk about sensationalising things

It actually IS a tiny step, and if Jay wasnt in that house and it had been just him and Harry I personally think he would have taken that step.

I am not senationalising things, I am commenting on demonstrated behaviour and an obvious violent anger issue of a HM.

I am giving my opinion that mixed with alcohol, as it may well be in future, the outcome could have been a lot lot worse.


Jay didn't lay a finger on anybody and using something like a punch bag is a common way of venting your frsutration. Like someone said elsewhere what about when Shabby was going crazy chucking stuff around the nest, or when Ahmed was smashing up plates? The latter especially is much more destructive and aggressive then merely hitting a pillow

Don't care about Shabby, we are talking about Jay.

I hardly see how he has anger issues because he got a pissed off

He didn't just get 'pissed off' though did he?

He was in a violent rage for well over an hour that obviously scared and affected other HMs.

No HM should have to live in an evironment of intimidation and fear.

[Visage]

To be honest Aden's comments in the toy factory task telling Aaron he was "such a w**ker" and saying would get Jay to beat him up or something were a lot worse than what Jay did last night

Fair comments, but why did Aden pick Jay as someone who would beat him up ?

Why not Anton or Aden himself threaten him ? Tom didn't need to use Jay when he threatened Aaron the other week.

[ChristmasNeeve]

Fair comments, but why did Aden pick Jay as someone who would beat him up ?

Why not Anton or Aden himself threaten him ? Tom didn't need to use Jay when he threatened Aaron the other week.

Because he's the biggest in there and also was "The Boss" in the task? Whatever his reasons were it's hardly Jays responsibility is it?

[Visage]

Or why didn't Mark say, "What on earth are you talking about?"......

Like the sh*t in the freezer, it stinks.

From what I've seen of Mark in both the house and on BOTS I get the impression he likes to talk, he loves the attention, so I highly doubt he would use the words 'no comment' especially with something as controversial as poo in the freezer...

[Visage]

Because he's the biggest in there and also was "The Boss" in the task? Whatever his reasons were it's hardly Jays responsibility is it?

I wasn't meaning and don't think it was Jay's responsibility, I was asking why Aden chose Jay.

[ChristmasNeeve]

I wasn't meaning and don't think it was Jay's responsibility, I was asking why Aden chose Jay.

I gave two reasons for why I think that as well :hugesmile:

[Visage]

I wasn't meaning and don't think it was Jay's responsibility, I was asking why Aden chose Jay.

Giving me the impression that Aden would think Jay is capable of beating someone up.

[Pyramid*]

It actually IS a tiny step, and if Jay wasnt in that house and it had been just him and Harry I personally think he would have taken that step.

I am not senationalising things, I am commenting on demonstrated behaviour and an obvious violent anger issue of a HM.

I am giving my opinion that mixed with alcohol, as it may well be in future, the outcome could have been a lot lot worse.




Don't care about Shabby, we are talking about Jay.



He didn't just get 'pissed off' though did he?

He was in a violent rage for well over an hour that obviously scared and affected other HMs.

No HM should have to live in an evironment of intimidation and fear.



That is spot on Vesuvius (and not Visage as I stated before my edit here!!) you've saved me the bother of putting up precisely my own thoughts.

Point to make here also: that rage continued for several hours - if the tweets are accurate. Not a one-of blow out - his rage continued - along with his spiteful and malicous behaviour - from intially throwing choc bars in the pool, to emptying out the coffee, sugar, teabags into the bin, to then pouring ketchup into the cereals, and vice versa.

[flamingGalah!]

I don't think he should be removed for his behaviour that we have seen (though if he did indeed sh*t in the freezer he should have been for doing that) but he should definitely have been given a warning at the very least...

He is a big intimidating guy & he seems to lord it round the house like some big alpha male gorilla, thinking he is in charge & he & he only gets to decide what food they should all have, just because he is a greeding *******ing pig!

What Harry did was hilarious & genius. Jay was ordering food HE wanted & it make me laugh out loud when he said he wanted "healthy" food! What exactly is the point of Jay eating healthily when he smokes 80 a day & drinks alcohol as if it is water?! :joker:

Jay's reaction was pathetic & showed his up for the aggressive a**hole that he really is, even his fauxmance with Louise wont save him now if he is up for eviction...

[Visage]

I gave two reasons for why I think that as well :hugesmile:

Yes I get what you're saying I was looking at how I perceived the whole situation, I meant to add this bit in my post 'Giving me the impression that Aden would think Jay is capable of beating someone up'.

[ChristmasNeeve]

Giving me the impression that Aden would think Jay is capable of beating someone up.

Well, look at him, of course he looks like he could beat someone up, he's atleast twice the width of everyone in there :conf:

[vesavius]

That is spot on Visage, you've saved me the bother of putting up precisely my own thoughts.

Point to make here also: that rage continued for several hours - if the tweets are accurate. Not a one-of blow out - his rage continued - along with his spiteful and malicous behaviour - from intially throwing choc bars in the pool, to emptying out the coffee, sugar, teabags into the bin, to then pouring ketchup into the cereals, and vice versa.


Vesavius ;)

[Pyramid*]

Vesavius ;)


sorry..... !!!! I'll go fix it. Dickus maximus that I am. :)

[vesavius]

sorry..... !!!! I'll go fix it. Dickus maximus that I am. :)

haha no worries, do or don't, made me laff :)

[Pink Pegasus]

I wasn't meaning and don't think it was Jay's responsibility, I was asking why Aden chose Jay.

Because Aden hero worships Jay. He agrees with everything he says, and thinks that Jay is really "the boss".

He said "I'll get Jay to lift you out of here" [not beat up, I don't think], because Jay was the boss for the task, and also because Jay would probably be the only one physically able to do that. Harry is quite a tall guy himself.

Harry just laughed in his face, and Jay obviously didn't do anything of the sort after Aden went running to him.
It seemed to be later than that when he fired the two boys.
Even as he was firing them, you could see Jay smiling and holding back the laughter when the boys got called the blues brothers.
Jay wasn't aggressive at all in that task, but Aden tried his best to be, which Jay obviously ignored after Aden went running whinging to him like a little jerk.

[Incensed]

From what I've seen of Mark in both the house and on BOTS I get the impression he likes to talk, he loves the attention, so I highly doubt he would use the words 'no comment' especially with something as controversial as poo in the freezer...

He said it on a Q & A session with Mark on Twitter

@worldovmyown asked Mark "Mark, did Jay really **** in the freezer for a dare???!"

Mark's reply via @bbuk: No Comment.

[Visage]

Well, look at him, of course he looks like he could beat someone up, he's atleast twice the width of everyone in there :conf:

I'm of a similar build but I come across as soft as .....:blush:


Anyway I was making my point of how I saw the situation. We don't see what really goes on in the house and the subject of Jay losing his temper has pretty much been the topic of the day. Aden used Jay as a threatening device which I don't think he chose because he was the boss in this role play. Jay does lord it round the house like he's this big hard man and that's how I feel the rest of the housemates view this.

[BigBrotherfan4ever]

I think he should be evicted for doing what he did last night to Harry's clothes, bet if it was anyone else who had done that they would have been remvovec the more I watch BB, I really do believe that the producers are favouring Jay morevthan anyone else. In the house, can also ask when did **** in the freezer, was in the house, I keep seeing people posting about but don't remember seeing on BB.:conf:

[Visage]

He said it on a Q & A session with Mark on Twitter

Oh right I thought it was a face to face interview, still though he could have replied with ...What...?

[ChristmasNeeve]

I'm of a similar build but I come across as soft as .....:blush:


Anyway I was making my point of how I saw the situation. We don't see what really goes on in the house and the subject of Jay losing his temper has pretty much been the topic of the day. Aden used Jay as a threatening device which I don't think he chose because he was the boss in this role play. Jay does lord it round the house like he's this big hard man and that's how I feel the rest of the housemates view this.

Really........ :evilgrin:

You could be right but it's also likely that it is down to his size and the fact that Aden follows him round like a lap dog

[Incensed]

Oh right I thought it was a face to face interview, still though he could have replied with ...What...?


I can only guess that as the Question and Answer session was taking place on the Official BB Twitter page that he had been prompted to say that. Could be wrong though :hugesmile:

[Visage]

Really........ :evilgrin:

You could be right but it's also likely that it is down to his size and the fact that Aden follows him round like a lap dog

You also raised some fair points, I wasn't trying to dismiss your view, just say it the way I saw it.

The next few days will be interesting with Jay and how he comes across in the eyes of the other housemates.


Really........ :evilgrin:

Aye.

Just don't ask me to 'sort' someone out.....:blush::joker:

[ChristmasNeeve]

You also raised some fair points, I wasn't trying to dismiss your view, just say it the way I saw it.

The next few days will be interesting with Jay and how he comes across in the eyes of the other housemates.


Yeah, I know and you may well be right, I just don't think there's enough (from what we've been shown anyway)evidence right now to make kicking him out for threatening behaviour ok.



Aye.

Just don't ask me to 'sort' someone out.....:blush::joker:

:joker:

[lukebartram]

No he shouldnt get kicked out

Okay if you was in there and u was hungry, u would be angry with wah harry did!, cuz bannah dont last the whole week they go black. that food wah harry ordered look like the food they have with a low budget cuz all the food crap

[Pyramid*]

No he shouldnt get kicked out

Okay if you was in there and u was hungry, u would be angry with wah harry did!, cuz bannah dont last the whole week they go black. that food wah harry ordered look like the food they have with a low budget cuz all the food crap


Polite request. Any chance you can try that again, but in some form of proper English please.

Thanks.

[flamingGalah!]

Polite request. Any chance you can try that again, but in some form of proper English please.

Thanks.

:laugh2:

Glad it wasn't just me who couldn't understand a word of that...

[billy123]

Polite request. Any chance you can try that again, but in some form of proper English please.

Thanks.Still at it i see. :sleep:
Its a very poor form of defence come on i know you know better.

http://highhorserockfiesta.com/high%20horse%20edit2.png

[Visage]

I don't want to open a can of worms here and I don't know where to post my views on this, but Pyramid has a point about the post she quoted being hard to read.

It states in the posting rules this...


Do not post all in capital letters, or use txt speech. Not only does it look bad, it is also very hard to understand. You may get a warning for the first time you do this, but in general, threads like this will just be deleted. If it persists, infractions will be given.


I don't understand why someone would post using text speech when there is unlimited space to type out a response.

[Pyramid*]

Still at it i see. :sleep:
Its a very poor form of defence come on i know you know better.

http://highhorserockfiesta.com/high%20horse%20edit2.png

It's actually forms part of the posting rules of the forum, but hey: don't let that stop you. :D

This has been annoying me for a while, A few members talk in nothing but Text talk which is against the rules. Like with the gifs, a bit of text talk or abbreviations are allowed but you can't do it 24/7. You aren't texting your friends so please try to actually use the english language when you post.

Thank You.

[FaLaLaLand]

Yes.

[Pyramid*]

Yes.
Out of interest - does anyone have a copy of the rules in which BB hms have to adhere to in respect of behaviour when there as a hm?

[Incensed]

Out of interest - does anyone have a copy of the rules in which BB hms have to adhere to in respect of behaviour when there as a hm?


Can only find the Rules for CBB, but should imagine there similar.

http://www.bigbrotherwebsite.net/house-rules/

[Merry Mockmas]

This is the best argument for Jay's dismissal iv heard all night:joker:

How you conviently forget that he also threatened to knock Harrys lights out aswell.

[Pyramid*]

Can only find the Rules for CBB, but should imagine there similar.

http://www.bigbrotherwebsite.net/house-rules/


thanks Incensed. :)


7. Big Brother will intervene and may remove you from the House if you break the rules, threaten or use physical violence, or behave in an unacceptable way that could cause serious offence to any other Housemate or to the viewing public.

NOMINATIONS

Every week you must nominate two fellow Housemates for eviction, giving your full and frank reasons to Big Brother in the Diary Room. If you or any Housemate does not give frank and valid reasons for nomination: this includes the excuse that you get on better with other Housemates than the person you are nominating, or that you have nothing in common with the person that you are nominating, Big Brother reserves the right to issue a punishment.



Under Unacceptable behaviour: ie 'sh*tgate*

- Actions likely to endanger the safety of Housemates.

Interesting....... especially the noms part & unacceptable behaviour. how many hms have used the 'I dont' get on with them / have nothing in common with them' excuse and yet that's being acceptedc time and time again.

[In the Drunk Tank]

It actually IS a tiny step, and if Jay wasnt in that house and it had been just him and Harry I personally think he would have taken that step.

I am not senationalising things, I am commenting on demonstrated behaviour and an obvious violent anger issue of a HM.

I am giving my opinion that mixed with alcohol, as it may well be in future, the outcome could have been a lot lot worse.

Don't care about Shabby, we are talking about Jay.

He didn't just get 'pissed off' though did he?

He was in a violent rage for well over an hour that obviously scared and affected other HMs.

No HM should have to live in an evironment of intimidation and fear.

It's not a tiny step at all, it is a very large one. Have you really never punched an inanimate object in frustration before? I certainly have and yet have never been in a fight in my life! It's a pretty common method of releasing anger, better to get it out then to just sit there and have it bubbling away inside you

You "don't care about Shabby" even though it is relevant here? It helps to look at things in the wider picture instead of just isolating this incident. Should she have been kicked out? Her anger problems were far worse than any I've seen from Jay and the same can be said about Ahmed smashing plates

So what if he was angry for an hour, it isn't that long a period of time, especially considering the environment they're in where anger is probably a lot harder to cope with, a point you keep ignoring. None of the other housemates have said they felt like they were threatened, because none of them were threatened, you're trying to paint him as some sort of bullying, psychotic monster which is a wild exaggeration in my opinion

[In the Drunk Tank]

How you conviently forget that he also threatened to knock Harrys lights out aswell.

Oh you mean just like Tom did to Aaron? And Tom actually said it to his face as well which makes it a hell of a lot more threatening, if Jay had said everyone would be seething but it's just because Tom's a little scrawny figure whereas Jay probably would actually be capable

[Pyramid*]

Oh you mean just like Tom did to Aaron? And Tom actually said it to his face as well which makes it a hell of a lot more threatening, if Jay had said everyone would be seething but it's just because Tom's a little scrawny figure whereas Jay probably would actually be capable


The message has finally hit home to you MTVN. Thank goodness for that.

[In the Drunk Tank]

The message has finally hit home to you MTVN. Thank goodness for that.

Physically capable I mean, not saying he actually would

[ChristmasNeeve]

The message has finally hit home to you MTVN. Thank goodness for that.

Don't twist his words :nono: he may be physically capable, doesn't mean people who may not be should get away with making threats and he should be punished for something alot less questionable

[Pyramid*]

Physically capable I mean, not saying he actually would

I agree. I also agree with you, he is physcially capable, and showed how physical he does get, as last night's clips proved. It's only a small step between a cushion and using someone's face as one. ;)

[Pyramid*]

Don't twist his words :nono: he may be physically capable, doesn't mean people who may not be should get away with making threats and he should be punished for something alot less questionable

I'm not twisting anything. MTVN quoted the truth ... to a degree, as my last post states. Now that's my opinion Niahm, and I'm perfectly entitled to voice it.

Not every one may agree, but that does not negate or invalidate my own view on the matter.

[InOne]

I'm not twisting anything. MTVN quoted the truth ... to a degree, as my last post states. Now that's my opinion Niahm, and I'm perfectly entitled to voice it.

Not every one may agree, but that does not negate or invalidate my own view on the matter.

Niamh :nono:

[Jamie.]

No way!
Jay is the best housemate in there, he is honest, I would KILL Harry after what he did.
And in my opinion, where is the PROOF that he crapped in the freezer?

[IheartBB]

Yep, let's remove him from the house and cause yet more negative publicity for the show. Whilst we're at it, why don't we all sign a petition to try and get it off the air for good?

Call yourself fans? :bored:

[Pyramid*]

Niamh :nono:

Give it a rest.

[In the Drunk Tank]

I agree. I also agree with you, he is physcially capable, and showed how physical he does get, as last night's clips proved. It's only a small step between a cushion and using someone's face as one. ;)

Hitting a cushion is a harmless and common method of releasing frustration so as not have it bubbling away inside you. Hitting someone's face, well now that would be classed as assault :idc:

[Pyramid*]

Hitting a cushion is a harmless and common method of releasing frustration so as not have it bubbling away inside you. Hitting someone's face, well now that would be classed as assault :idc:


Destroying a persons personal belongings, deliberately and with malicious intent, is also a criminal offence. Changing a shopping list is not. ;)

[InOne]

Give it a rest.

Just letting you know for next time :idc:

[Merry Mockmas]

Oh come on, he said it in the Diary Room. I'm quite sure every one of us have said things like that before without meaning it. I can't believe I'm actually defending Jay here, but people are over reacting and it is purely because he's the biggest and most menacing looking HM in there.

I'll be honest I found Harrys shopping prank hilarious cos I'm outside and it's a bit of entertainment, but If I was in there I know I'd be so angry if I had to live off Bananas and Cereal for the week.

In the BB house you get punished for threatening behaviour so Jay should have been punished for what he said.

[Pyramid*]

Just letting you know for next time :idc:

You might want to pay more attention then... seeing as it wasn't the only typo I've made in the last few threads..... ;)

any comments on the actual subject matter at all - or simply doing what you do best, having a dig at members rather than what's being said.

[InOne]

You might want to pay more attention then... seeing as it wasn't the only typo I've made in the last few threads..... ;)

any comments on the actual subject matter at all - or simply doing what you do best, having a dig at members rather than what's being said.

Don't take things to heart so much :joker: You don't always have to be on the defence.

[ChristmasNeeve]

In the BB house you get punished for threatening behaviour so Jay should have been punished for what he said.

and why not demand Tom be punished so for threatening Aaron to his face?

[Jamie.]

Ordering 1000 food colouring, 500 bananas, 100 boxes of cereal, and I think is was 50 cartons of milk..
He's bound to get angry, after he sat there and wrote out a particular list that suited EVERYONES needs!

No way should he be removed!

[Pyramid*]

Don't take things to heart so much :joker: You don't always have to be on the defence.

Just pointing out a bit of the truth. If you can't take it - don't do dishing it out. simple really. Now..... again; do you have anything to say on the subject matter in hand or are you deliberately continuing to take this off topic?

[ChristmasNeeve]

I'm not twisting anything. MTVN quoted the truth ... to a degree, as my last post states. Now that's my opinion Niahm, and I'm perfectly entitled to voice it.

Not every one may agree, but that does not negate or invalidate my own view on the matter.

You knew what he meant by what he said, I'm quite sure.

[Pyramid*]

Ordering 1000 food colouring, 500 bananas, 100 boxes of cereal, and I think is was 50 cartons of milk..
He's bound to get angry, after he sat there and wrote out a particular list that suited EVERYONES needs!

No way should he be removed!

the crucial part is: Harry still ensured he ordered the hms personal items..... ;)

[Pyramid*]

You knew what he meant by what he said, I'm quite sure.

And I stand by what I said. The words that they used were entirely correct in my opinon.

[Rawrbear]

If anyone messed with my clothes and ruined them i would punch him in face, even though he could probably snap me in half, and if someone **** in the freezer i would not eat out of their again even if things were packed....i dislike him

[In the Drunk Tank]

Destroying a persons personal belongings, deliberately and with malicious intent, is also a criminal offence. Changing a shopping list is not. ;)

I suppose Harry is also guilty after getting Alex with ketchup then, it's still damaging her personal belongings after all though I'm sure you'll try and excuse it by saying it was just a bit of a fun

Also Pyramid you regularly correct other people's typos so I don't see why you think it so disgraceful when it does to you. Now let's get back on topic :idc:

[Jamie.]

the crucial part is: Harry still ensured he ordered the hms personal items.....
Not the point.

[InOne]

Just pointing out a bit of the truth. If you can't take it - don't do dishing it out. simple really. Now..... again; do you have anything to say on the subject matter in hand or are you deliberately continuing to take this off topic?

You make odd phrases for things that never even happened.


Anyway, I agree with most of your points so I don't see the point in sniping at eachother.

[Pyramid*]

I suppose Harry is also guilty after getting Alex with ketchup then, it's still damaging her personal belongings after all though I'm sure you'll try and excuse it by saying it was just a bit of a fun

Also Pyramid you regularly correct other people's typos so I don't see why you think it so disgraceful when it does to you. Now let's get back on topic :idc:



yet I see, as a moderator - you are allowing InOne to continually post off topic.......WITHOUT so much as a word to that.... interesting and very telling behaviour.

The matter of 2 people (Harry and Alex) playing together in full knowledge of what the other one is doing has already been discussed.

There is no way you are ever going to try to convince me that you think that is the same as someone doing something vindictive behind someone else's back - out of spiteful maliciousness.

[LivT]

Yep, let's remove him from the house and cause yet more negative publicity for the show. Whilst we're at it, why don't we all sign a petition to try and get it off the air for good?

Call yourself fans? :bored:

It isn't the public that would, or could, be the cause of negative publicity for the show, it's down to the individual housemates not to break house rules . Coupled with the fact that moral standards should also be accounted for, it is their, and their responsibility alone how they conduct themselves. The public's involvement in the 'Game' is to be Judge and Jury, not be held responsible for the housemates actions

[Pyramid*]

Not the point.

Perhaps not you to you, but it's my opinion on the matter, and one I'm perfectly entitled to put over. :)

[RoverRochina]

well i heard today that the reason why jay has been coverd up so much, bear in mind this is just a rumour it might not be true, but yet again it could very well be true, is that jay has already got a contract to appear on geordie shore?

hes been coverd up alot as apperntly he knows he is going to win, but no one else in the house does.

[vesavius]

It's not a tiny step at all, it is a very large one. Have you really never punched an inanimate object in frustration before?

Nope, not since I was a child anyhow.

I don't get that kind of rage tbh, and I do not find it comfortable around me when others do.

I certainly have and yet have never been in a fight in my life! It's a pretty common method of releasing anger, better to get it out then to just sit there and have it bubbling away inside you?

Ahh, maybe this is it?

Maybe you defend Jay so staunchly because you see yourself in his actions last night and to condemn him would be to condemn yourself?

I don't know you, not having a pop, just a maybe observation based on what you say here.

So what if he was angry for an hour, it isn't that long a period of time... ?

An hour plus is a MASSIVE amount of to stay in a boiling rage and still feel the need to punch it out on the ground.

Anyone who is still feeling violently angry after that period of time, even telling BB that he wanted to punch Harry in the face in the DR, needs to have a word with themselves.

as some sort of bullying, psychotic monster which is a wild exaggeration in my opinion

Stop putting words into my mouth. I didnt say any of that. In fact, what your doing is wildly exaggerating my words, ironically enough.

I have said he obviously has violent anger issues that make unstable and a potentiol threat to others, especially if alcohol is involved more next time. He needs to be taken out.

All this I stand by.

[ChristmasNeeve]

well i heard today that the reason why jay has been coverd up so much, bear in mind this is just a rumour it might not be true, but yet again it could very well be true, is that jay has already got a contract to appear on geordie shore?

hes been coverd up alot as apperntly he knows he is going to win, but no one else in the house does.

:suspect: And how do you know all this then?

[Merry Mockmas]

Oh you mean just like Tom did to Aaron? And Tom actually said it to his face as well which makes it a hell of a lot more threatening, if Jay had said everyone would be seething but it's just because Tom's a little scrawny figure whereas Jay probably would actually be capable

Actually I do think Tom should have got chucked out for what he said to Aaron but I think its because he is gay is the reason he got away with it,by the way im not being homophobic im just stating how the gay contestants get special treatment.

[Visage]

im just stating how the gay contestants get special treatment.

TBF Dennis was gay and he was booted off the show.

[Merry Mockmas]

TBF Dennis was gay and he was booted off the show.

Apprently C4 forced Endemol to remove Dennis.

[IheartBB]

It isn't the public that would, or could, be the cause of negative publicity for the show, it's down to the individual housemates not to break house rules . Coupled with the fact that moral standards should also be accounted for, it is their, and their responsibility alone how they conduct themselves. The public's involvement in the 'Game' is to be Judge and Jury, not be held responsible for the housemates actions

That's all very well in theory, and I certianly do not argue the fact that housemates are responsible for their own actions, but a public backlash can cause huge negative publicity for the show.

Jade Goody is a perfect example. Her actions would have been just as bad no matter how many people complained, but the negative publicity grew and grew the more complaints Ofcom recieved. It would not have been an issue/story in the eyes of the media if only a few people complained.

[Jedwardhater]

http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=271&pictureid=1899

Yes!!!

[In the Drunk Tank]

Nope, not since I was a child anyhow.

I don't get that kind of rage tbh, and I do not find it comfortable around me when others do.



Ahh, maybe this is it?

Maybe you defend Jay so staunchly because you see yourself in his actions last night and to condemn him would be to condemn yourself?

I don't know you, not having a pop, just a maybe observation based on what you say here.



An hour plus is a MASSIVE amount of to stay in a boiling rage and still feel the need to punch it out on the ground.

Anyone who is still feeling violently angry after that period of time, even telling BB that he wanted to punch Harry in the face in the DR, needs to have a word with themselves.



Stop putting words into my mouth. I didnt say any of that. In fact, what your doing is wildly exaggerating my words, ironically enough.

I have said he obviously has violent anger issues that make unstable and a potentiol threat to others, especially if alcohol is involved more next time. He needs to be taken out.

All this I stand by.

You make out like this is shocking behaviour; it isn't. Expressing anger is often considered a better way of dealing with it than bottling it up, if you are going to express it punching a pillow is one way of doing it. Fine if it's not something you do but everyone deals with anger in different ways and like was said in another thread if he'd been in the Gym using a punch bag I wonder if it would have received the same backlash.

Let's not go down the amateur psychology route. I do tend to like house mates that I think I would get on with in real life and so that is part of the reason Jay is my favourite in there, believe it or not I think he's likeable. But I hardly see him hitting a pillow and think "hey, you know I can relate to that" and so staunchly defend him. I'm defending him here because I genuinely think he hasn't really done much wrong and I'm not the only one, even people who don't like Jay have said he shouldn't be kicked out over something so trivial

I will wait until I see proof of these anger issues thanks, and being (understandably) pissed off for the first time in 4 weeks hardly counts as proof in my book.

You didn't answer my Shabby/Ahmed question; should they have been kicked out or not? Both had very clear anger issues, and don't say it's not relevant because it is and serves a valid point of comparison

[vesavius]

You make out like this is shocking behaviour; it isn't. Expressing anger is often considered a better way of dealing with it than bottling it up.

Look, lets just leave it. it's obvious we are coming at this from way different angles, which is fine.

To me, his behaviour WAS shocking, to you it wasn't. Fair enough... We have different levels of acceptable behaviour.

All I will say though is most people don't have his levels of rage to bottle up in the first place. The fact that Jay does makes him a threat to the other HMs imo, especially if he is drunk next time.

No one in that house should still be there there with those kind of issues imo.

I will leave the last word to you, we can't carry on going around in circles so one of us will have to bow out sooner or later. I vote me :)


(I am not gonna talk about Shabby et al no matter how many times you try to pressure me into it btw... We are talking about Jay and this specific situation, not other random HMs that you are drawing parrallels with in an effort to deflect the heat and make him look better).

[LivT]

That's all very well in theory, and I certianly do not argue the fact that housemates are responsible for their own actions, but a public backlash can cause huge negative publicity for the show.

Jade Goody is a perfect example. Her actions would have been just as bad no matter how many people complained, but the negative publicity grew and grew the more complaints Ofcom recieved. It would not have been an issue/story in the eyes of the media if only a few people complained.


Just in theory? *scratching my head over those sentiments* The proof has been in the eating, surely ! I rather feel your own opinion of policing negative publicity not only ambiguous but unnattainable. No point in trying to fight a cause which is totally unrealistic to change. Big bro knew what they were letting themselves in for and i'm sure fully prepared for a surfeit of backlash..

[In the Drunk Tank]

Look, lets just leave it. it's obvious we are coming at this from way different angles, which is fine.

To me, his behaviour WAS shocking, to you it wasn't. Fair enough... We have different levels of acceptable behaviour.

All I will say though is most people don't have his levels of rage to bottle up in the first place. The fact that Jay does makes him a threat to the other HMs imo, especially if he is drunk next time.

No one in that house should still be there there with those kind of issues imo.

I will leave the last word to you, we can't carry on going around in circles so one of us will have to bow out sooner or later. I vote me :)


(I am not gonna talk about Shabby et al no matter how many times you try to pressure me into it btw... We are talking about Jay and this specific situation, not other random HMs that you are drawing parrallels with in an effort to deflect the heat and make him look better).

Ok fair enough, although just to point out this is pretty much the first time in 4 weeks that Jay has lost his temper, it isn't like he's constantly angry

And for what it's worth I do think that the Shabby comparison was a valid one worth discussing, but I guess we'll have to agree to disagree here :)

[vesavius]

Ok fair enough, although just to point out this is pretty much the first time in 4 weeks that Jay has lost his temper, it isn't like he's constantly angry

And for what it's worth I do think that the Shabby comparison was a valid one worth discussing, but I guess we'll have to agree to disagree here :)

For sure, as a seperate subject sign me up, I'll talk for hours about BB haha :)

[bexx]

Jay is n*b im confused to how anyone could like him *****ing in the freezer weeing on people, masturbates alot according to the evicted housemates and ruins other peoples clothes tell me where you could get away with that in the real world of course he needs to go. and channel 5 are only showing the good bits of him.

[joeysteele]

Even more so after tonights highlights he should be told to go.,I understood it was against the rules of BB to alter furnishings and block cameras too.
His really ridiculous nest he has constructed must massively be at odds with that rule.

Is he running BB or are they. It's beginning to look like he can get away with anything never mind just a lot.

He's shown himself to be a right liar too. Horrible housemate,I couldn't stand to be within a mile of him never mind as close as they have to be in there.

[RoverRochina]

i agree with alot of you, the fact jay has been getting away with alot, but as i said earlyer about the whole geordie shore thing, the guy that keeps spouting it all is a huge jay hater, so take it with a pinch of salt.

sorry for spelling ect, im dyslexic

i would love to see aaron win, but hes going off now, like people have gone off him, he seems to be getting more unpopular as the series goes on

[Jedwardhater]

You make out like this is shocking behaviour; it isn't. Expressing anger is often considered a better way of dealing with it than bottling it up, if you are going to express it punching a pillow is one way of doing it. Fine if it's not something you do but everyone deals with anger in different ways and like was said in another thread if he'd been in the Gym using a punch bag I wonder if it would have received the same backlash.

Let's not go down the amateur psychology route. I do tend to like house mates that I think I would get on with in real life and so that is part of the reason Jay is my favourite in there, believe it or not I think he's likeable. But I hardly see him hitting a pillow and think "hey, you know I can relate to that" and so staunchly defend him. I'm defending him here because I genuinely think he hasn't really done much wrong and I'm not the only one, even people who don't like Jay have said he shouldn't be kicked out over something so trivial

I will wait until I see proof of these anger issues thanks, and being (understandably) pissed off for the first time in 4 weeks hardly counts as proof in my book.

You didn't answer my Shabby/Ahmed question; should they have been kicked out or not? Both had very clear anger issues, and don't say it's not relevant because it is and serves a valid point of comparison

MTVN You have such a bias toward your fav housemate Jay that any truth about him you simply discard and try to explain your way out of HIS sick behavior at every turn. How can anyone on here take what you say as truthful? You have told me to stop posting images on here, which i did, then you said oh it's ok to post the odd one in a thread etc. Which i then did. To which you then quickly gave me a warning for yet tonight on the live feed someone posted the same one image in the same thread over 20 times and you said nothing. I hope that you are very happy with abusing your power, knowing that the tv show viewing figures are in decline i don't think that you stopping forum members expressing their views against your fave Jay gives you the right to remove them from the forum knowing that the forum and tv show at the moment need all the fans they can get. You yourself repeat the same one image over and over with every post you make yet have no problem with yourself repeating images over and over. That is abuse of power and bullying of the highest order. Now talk your way out of that!
PS: If you don't see me post on here anymore guys you know who's to blame.

[Kore]

keep him in

[In the Drunk Tank]

MTVN You have such a bias toward your fav housemate Jay that any truth about him you simply discard and try to explain your way out of HIS sick behavior at every turn. How can anyone on here take what you say as truthful? You have told me to stop posting images on here, which i did, then you said oh it's ok to post the odd one in a thread etc. Which i then did. To which you then quickly gave me a warning for yet tonight on the live feed someone posted the same one image in the same thread over 20 times and you said nothing. I hope that you are very happy with abusing your power, knowing that the tv show viewing figures are in decline i don't think that you stopping forum members expressing their views against your fave Jay gives you the right to remove them from the forum knowing that the forum and tv show at the moment need all the fans they can get. You yourself repeat the same one image over and over with every post you make yet have no problem with yourself repeating images over and over. That is abuse of power and bullying of the highest order. Now talk your way out of that!
PS: If you don't see me post on here anymore guys you know who's to blame.

I have come online for the first time this evening just this minute and did not give you an infraction. We done here?

[Jedwardhater]

I have come online for the first time this evening just this minute and did not give you an infraction. We done here?

Your very short response speaks volumes!

[Supermum]

nah, let faye's sister kick his ass first

[Incensed]

http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=271&pictureid=1899

Yes!!!

:joker::joker:

[yami watching]

I really get the impression from the posts on this forum that all you want in the house are the cunning and conniving people. What you seem to forget is what you like about these kind of people is that thier actions spark a reaction.
Harry knew exactly how Jay especially was going to react to the food situation and did it anyway. Its a bit like throwing a baby to rabid dog and then putting the dog down when he bites.

Jay seems to me like a wear his heart on his sleeve kind of bloke who pretty much just says stuff how it is, he is far from being my fave but gained a lot of respect from me on how he controlled his temper when you can clearly see what he wanted to do was punch Harrys face in.

He wasnt discussing nominations he clearly made a throw away silly comment

[Merry Mockmas]

I really get the impression from the posts on this forum that all you want in the house are the cunning and conniving people. What you seem to forget is what you like about these kind of people is that thier actions spark a reaction.
Harry knew exactly how Jay especially was going to react to the food situation and did it anyway. Its a bit like throwing a baby to rabid dog and then putting the dog down when he bites.

Jay seems to me like a wear his heart on his sleeve kind of bloke who pretty much just says stuff how it is, he is far from being my fave but gained a lot of respect from me on how he controlled his temper when you can clearly see what he wanted to do was punch Harrys face in.

He wasnt discussing nominations he clearly made a throw away silly comment

More like wear his heart on his poo kind of guy.:joker:

[JTM45]

I think Jay's a real idiotic,dickheaded Moron!!!
He probably stumbled upon the BB auditions while walking home after from the Geordie Shore auditions after failing to get through. From the small amount i could bare to watch of Geordie Shore i got the impression that Jay would fit in with the other braindead juice monkeys on there far better, and the 'birds' on there seemed far more like Jay's regular friday night fodder.
He's really showed his true colours over the last few days, particularly during shoppingate and then when he decided to ruin Harry's clothes. He's a nasty, neanderthal turd and the sooner he's gone the better!!!