Respect for Aaron...

[rusticgal]

I love Aaron....but almost had myself feeling sorry for Jay tonight when he tried to talk to Aaron.....Aaron could easily have succumbed and chatted so as not to make it awkward.I wanted him to but then I would have been gutted if he had....he held his own... He knows he has nothing in common with Jay....has no respect for him and stood his ground and for that I applaud him...

Now I love him even more...:kiss:

[joeysteele]

Jay twisting massively the conversation he did have after Aaron left was just typical of the nastiness of Jay.
I am overjoyed that Aaron has sussed out that this guy cannot and should not be trusted, if I was Aaron,I would never speak about anything to Jay or Anton unless someone else was there to hear it too. Other than Aden of course,the other little sneak.

[billy123]

Its a pretty childish and selfish way of dealing with it instead of thinking about whats the best thing for the house as a whole and calling a truce for the sake of the atmosphere in there he is thinking only of himself once again the pathetic wanker.
He is 30 years old for gods sake and he should behave like an adult not a stroppy little 12 year old.

[Visage]

I like Aaron and I hope he wins but I wish he would man it up a little. I get he doesn't want to get all matey with Jay and understand where he is coming from, but for the sake of the experience just be man enough to stay polite with him.

People fall out & people piss you off and in the real world you make that choice whether you want to stay in touch or not, but this isn't the real world it's the BB experience.

[Cromwell1900]

Jay twisting massively the conversation he did have after Aaron left was just typical of the nastiness of Jay.
I am overjoyed that Aaron has sussed out that this guy cannot and should not be trusted, if I was Aaron,I would never speak about anything to Jay or Anton unless someone else was there to hear it too. Other than Aden of course,the other little sneak.

Wow did not here any twisting really.


He's being incredibly mardy to sulk after all where can they go. Is it not storing up trouble for the future!

[billy123]

I like Aaron and I hope he wins but I wish he would man it up a little. I get he doesn't want to get all matey with Jay and understand where he is coming from, but for the sake of the experience just be man enough to stay polite with him.

People fall out & people piss you off and in the real world you make that choice whether you want to stay in touch or not, but this isn't the real world it's the BB experience.Thats right its not like anybodys expecting them to be best friends but any reasonable adult would just put it to rest out of respect for the other people that have to live there but no its just another reason to huff and sulk only Aaron matters in Aarons world.

[joeysteele]

Wow did not here any twisting really.


He's being incredibly mardy to sulk after all where can they go. Is it not storing up trouble for the future!

Watch it again tomorrow, he relayed very little as to what Aaron actually did say.

[Cromwell1900]

Aaron fans are going to have to get use to him being No 10 on the Sulk-omiter from now on though. Hope your ready for that.

Perhaps until Jay gets kicked out then him & Harry will liven up

[Cromwell1900]

Aaron fans are going to have to get use to him being No 10 on the Sulk-omiter from now on though. Hope your ready for that.

Perhaps until Jay gets kicked out then him & Harry will liven up

[rk3388]

yeah it was so mature of him giving the silent treatment to aden.
I'm just 16 and more mature than he is

[joeysteele]

Silence can sometimes be the best healer after difficulties, Aaron actually gave really good advice to Aden tonight just as Heaven tried to once before.

Jay and Anton do call the shots of those 3, Aden is like their office lackey.

I wouldn't just not speak to Jay in the house, I would move away as far as I could from him anytime he came where I was.
As for Anton, he wouldn't exist as far as I was concerned. He's rotten totally.

[rk3388]

i think it was more gameplan than actual advice...
Silence is good if its the mean of having space and avoiding conflict, however aden was just trying to make conversation which is pathetic if he cant move on.

And i dont think aaron would dare give the silent treatment to jay...

[joeysteele]

'Dare not' give the silent treatment to Jay, he already has and just who is Jay anyway that people shouldn't give him that and ignore him if they cannot stand him.He is just an uncouth foul mouthed lout.

[Visage]

Silence can sometimes be the best healer after difficulties


True but do you not see this isn't doing Aaron any favours ? The more he alienates himself the more he will feel low and unhappy and then the question would be why is he still in there if it's hurting him so much.


I'm totally with you when it comes to Jay being vile and I understand why Aaron doesn't want to speak with him, but if he kept it short and polite he would look the better man in the long run.

[Cromwell1900]

Silence can sometimes be the best healer after difficulties, Aaron actually gave really good advice to Aden tonight just as Heaven tried to once before.

Jay and Anton do call the shots of those 3, Aden is like their office lackey.

I wouldn't just not speak to Jay in the house, I would move away as far as I could from him anytime he came where I was.
As for Anton, he wouldn't exist as far as I was concerned. He's rotten totally.

But iv never seen Jay tell Aden to do anything, offer him advice, or anything. It's just that Aden looks up to Jay, and Anton.

[joeysteele]

True but do you not see this isn't doing Aaron any favours ? The more he alienates himself the more he will feel low and unhappy and then the question would be why is he still in there if it's hurting him so much.


I'm totally with you when it comes to Jay being vile and I understand why Aaron doesn't want to speak with him, but if he kept it short and polite he would look the better man in the long run.

I can agree with that, you always talk fairly anyway in my view.

I would find it very difficult to talk to Jay, but when others were around I would acknowledge him, so I can see where you are coming from and agree that would be a better way of dealing with him.

[rk3388]

'Dare not' give the silent treatment to Jay, he already has and just who is Jay anyway that people shouldn't give him that and ignore him if they cannot stand him.He is just an uncouth foul mouthed lout.

no aaron did NOT give jay the silent treatment, and he just been slagging jay off wthout saying anything to jays face.

[rk3388]

True but do you not see this isn't doing Aaron any favours ? The more he alienates himself the more he will feel low and unhappy and then the question would be why is he still in there if it's hurting him so much.


I'm totally with you when it comes to Jay being vile and I understand why Aaron doesn't want to speak with him, but if he kept it short and polite he would look the better man in the long run.

I agree with this. I think neither of them handled anything to well

[Cromwell1900]

no aaron did NOT give jay the silent treatment, and he just been slagging jay off wthout saying anything to jays face.

He did until Jay spoke to him after a long uncomfortable silence

[GypsyGoth]

I find it uncomfortable watching them not talking. I think Aaron should forgive him.

[rk3388]

He did until Jay spoke to him after a long uncomfortable silence

excactly so its not the silent treatment. He was avoiding jay but using silent treatment towards aden. And who knows maybe they were talking before that silence because u can never know with the channel 5 editing

[Cromwell1900]

excactly so its not the silent treatment. He was avoiding jay but using silent treatment towards aden. And who knows maybe they were talking before that silence because u can never know with the channel 5 editing

Yes i see what you mean now. Very Sulky for an Adult

[cell]

At least Jay made effort for some resolution, understanding they will never be friends but the awkward silence is creating an atmosphere in the house. You would expect that at 30 Aaron would know how to co-exist with people you don't like or understand, people usually gain this skill in elementary.

[Cromwell1900]

Both Harry & Aaron are quite intolerant people. Snobbery is my suspicion

[rk3388]

Both Harry & Aaron are quite intolerant people. Snobbery is my suspicion

True. Harry and Aaron do think theyre above other people in the house, and aarons getting too confident. I hate it when housemates say Certain ones dont deserve to be there and who should be out next (like aaron saying jay should be out ) when he should have been out 2 times ( IMO )

[tweetypiebabe1]

Thats right its not like anybodys expecting them to be best friends but any reasonable adult would just put it to rest out of respect for the other people that have to live there but no its just another reason to huff and sulk only Aaron matters in Aarons world.

But is it really affecting the house though? I mean, let's be honest, Aaron's been sulking from day one. I get your point though but he's not saying he won't be cordial he's just saying he won't be fake, he won't chat to him if he doesn't feel like it. Hopefully he can get past the silent treatment though and at least acknowledge the man.

[Cromwell1900]

True. Harry and Aaron do think theyre above other people in the house, and aarons getting too confident. I hate it when housemates say Certain ones dont deserve to be there and who should be out next (like aaron saying jay should be out ) when he should have been out 2 times ( IMO )

Yep!

i thought that also, by saying that your kind of saying I do deserve to be here.

Although Jay has been accussed of some pretty outragous stuff i.e Freezer Abuse.

[Lister of Smeg]

Both Harry & Aaron are quite intolerant people. Snobbery is my suspicion

indeed people on here are saying Jay is the sulky one yet Aaron is acting like a 10 year old giving Jay the silent treatment then deciding to tak a little bit only to walk into one room ad relay everthing to Harry and then to boldly say hes up for eviction this week .

[SoBig]

Aaron is a punk. Dude is extremely soft. I don't understand why he still has fans. All he does now is cry and whine. The first two weeks he was a great housemate but now meh.

[Lister of Smeg]

Aaron is a punk. Dude is extremely soft. I don't understand why he still has fans. All he does now is cry and whine. The first two weeks he was a great housemate but now meh.

ive said it before and i will say it again Aaron is heading the same rout Ben did last year being that he is this years Internet darling but it always starts to dry up around week 5 or 6 when said hm can know longer cover up the cracks that start to appear and there total twaty selves are revealed Aaron is in fact ahead of schedule given that this is just the start of week 5 .

[SoBig]

ive said it before and i will say it again Aaron is heading the same rout Ben did last year being that he is this years Internet darling but it always starts to dry up around week 5 or 6 when said hm can know longer cover up the cracks that start to appear and there total twaty selves are revealed Aaron is in fact ahead of schedule given that this is just the start of week 5 .
You hit the nail right on the head. Its playing out just like it did with Ben last year.

[MTVN]

It annoys me the way Aaron just blanks people whenver he's had the slightest falling out with them, it's pretty childish and he should at least try and make amends, especially when the other person is making some effort, it's like with Maisy and the cupcake when she was apologising and he just ignored her

[Lister of Smeg]

You hit the nail right on the head. Its playing out just like it did with Ben last year.

the hilarious thing is the people that supported Ben last year are the same people who are supporting Aaron .

[Lister of Smeg]

It annoys me the way Aaron just blanks people whenver he's had the slightest falling out with them, it's pretty childish and he should at least try and make amends, especially when the other person is making some effort, it's like with Maisy and the cupcake when she was apologising and he just ignored her

yes he did he went to sulk in the bath room like a little child in the end Maisy even offered to use some of her part of the shopping budget to get some more icing to correct it cant believe so many people like this sulky git i cant even imagine how hard t must be to make friends back in normal life with his attitude .

[rk3388]

It annoys me the way Aaron just blanks people whenver he's had the slightest falling out with them, it's pretty childish and he should at least try and make amends, especially when the other person is making some effort, it's like with Maisy and the cupcake when she was apologising and he just ignored her

i agree, and hes the oldest one in there, yet i think the most immature.

[Jedwardhater]

Maybe Aaron should boost his appeal by taking a huge dump in the freezer???

[fruit_cake]

It annoys me the way Aaron just blanks people whenver he's had the slightest falling out with them, it's pretty childish and he should at least try and make amends, especially when the other person is making some effort, it's like with Maisy and the cupcake when she was apologising and he just ignored her

this..Aaron is a drama queen he only has time for people when it suits. Poor Jay has every right to dislike him

[Angus]

I can't believe FMs are having a go at Aaron because he doesn't want anything to do with the disgusting, foulmouthed, disgrace of a man that is Jay. If Aaron was being all friendly with him, the same FMS would be on here screaming about what a hypocrite he was.

I bet Aaron's critics don't give the time of day to people they consider a waste of space.
I'm the same - life is to short to waste a moment of my time with a complete and utter tosser. Jay has no respect for other people's space - he hates Aaron as much as Aaron hates him, but he expects Aaron to talk to him as if everything between them is cool?!

There's lots we're not seeing but from what we do it is clear that Jay considers himself boss of the house and throws his weight around. He also gets away with truly obnoxious behaviour without any penalty. No wonder Aaron wants to avoid him. Most decent people would.

[fruit_cake]

I can't believe FMs are having a go at Aaron because he doesn't want anything to do with the disgusting, foulmouthed, disgrace of a man that is Jay.

the same disgusting foulmouthed disgrace of man that offered Aaron the hand of friendship only for it to be bitten off??????

[soundslike]

Jay twisting massively the conversation he did have after Aaron left was just typical of the nastiness of Jay.
I am overjoyed that Aaron has sussed out that this guy cannot and should not be trusted, if I was Aaron,I would never speak about anything to Jay or Anton unless someone else was there to hear it too. Other than Aden of course,the other little sneak.


How do you know he twisted anything? Most of the conversation would have been editted out. And not many people can repeat something said to them word for word.

[soundslike]

'Dare not' give the silent treatment to Jay, he already has and just who is Jay anyway that people shouldn't give him that and ignore him if they cannot stand him.He is just an uncouth foul mouthed lout.

And Aaron is no better. A 30 year old who acts like a sulky little five year old. he needs to grow up. He is a horrible unfriendly nasty piece of work who thinks he is above people in there. If that is the case he should P off I am sick of seeing his pathetic sulky face.

It doesn't hurt to try and make peace but he branded them as soon as he met them,e is a cold fish with no people skills at all!

[Pyramid*]

I like Aaron and I hope he wins but I wish he would man it up a little. I get he doesn't want to get all matey with Jay and understand where he is coming from, but for the sake of the experience just be man enough to stay polite with him.

People fall out & people piss you off and in the real world you make that choice whether you want to stay in touch or not, but this isn't the real world it's the BB experience.

Agree with you Visage. He might loathe the guy - but he can still be civil to him without being friendly and chummy - the impact that this 'complete avoidance' of Jay will have on the other housemates will be like walking on eggshells anytime both of them are in the same area together.....and when other people are affected and feel that unpleasant, unsettled feeling inside: that's when then he'll be nominated. He needs to wise up a little.

[Raven]

Its a pretty childish and selfish way of dealing with it instead of thinking about whats the best thing for the house as a whole and calling a truce for the sake of the atmosphere in there he is thinking only of himself once again the pathetic wanker.
He is 30 years old for gods sake and he should behave like an adult not a stroppy little 12 year old.

VERY well said!:hello:

[Angus]

the same disgusting foulmouthed disgrace of man that offered Aaron the hand of friendship only for it to be bitten off??????

Yes the same disgusting, foulmouthed disgrace of a HYPOCRITICAL man that cynically offered Aaron the hand of friendship when he knows full well the reasons Aaron hates him. Jay is a caricature of a man, a one dimensional thuggish, jack the lad oaf, who obviously thinks everyone should kow tow to him. He can't stand that Aaron won't crawl up his backside and for some obscure reason, Jay seems to think he can just demand respect, instead of earning it.

I have the independence to decide who I want to be friends with, who I talk to, and who I associate with, and I don't mix with and pretend to like people I don't just to make THEM feel better. You see it's called not being a hypocrite. I don't give the time of day to those I despise, why would I? Life is way too short to spend it on such people. I admire Aaron exercising his freedom of choice to mix with who HE wants, and I would actually lose a lot of respect for him if he compromised his principles by pretending to like such an obscene and arrogant buffoon. Now THAT would be called being fake.

[soundslike]

I can't believe FMs are having a go at Aaron because he doesn't want anything to do with the disgusting, foulmouthed, disgrace of a man that is Jay. If Aaron was being all friendly with him, the same FMS would be on here screaming about what a hypocrite he was.

I bet Aaron's critics don't give the time of day to people they consider a waste of space.
I'm the same - life is to short to waste a moment of my time with a complete and utter tosser. Jay has no respect for other people's space - he hates Aaron as much as Aaron hates him, but he expects Aaron to talk to him as if everything between them is cool?!

There's lots we're not seeing but from what we do it is clear that Jay considers himself boss of the house and throws his weight around. He also gets away with truly obnoxious behaviour without any penalty. No wonder Aaron wants to avoid him. Most decent people would.#




Your so full of Aarons self importance aren't you? you are assuming he has not had bad things covered up too. Everything you have said about Jay is just hearsay and he is probably not as bad as you make out and want to so badly believe in order to justify Aarons snobbery and rude behaviour..

[joeysteele]

How do you know he twisted anything? Most of the conversation would have been editted out. And not many people can repeat something said to them word for word.

I would in all fainess have to agree that we only see the edited things of all actions and conversations, this is what is really bad about this years BB. I am totally with you on that one.I can though only look at things I se from my own personal angle, you see it differently to me though and I of course respect that.

Jay did not appear in the hl then to relay the conversation as he and Aaron had it, he used it to further put Aaron down, Aaron is well aware and feels that Jay is not to be trusted.
Look I am at Uni there are people there I cannot stand and likely vice versa, Even there I would get away as far as I could from them.
The only thing I will do is acknowledge them with a nod or the briefest hi,no more, I never have conversations with them or mix with them,if they join any company I am in I make an excuse and leave it.

If I was in the bb house with people like them,I would go crazy keeping away from them but I could not be false and pretend to like them or want to socialise with them.

Now to Jay, Jay dislikes Aarom bigtime, and Aaron detests Jay.the best thing to do is avoid conflict when 2 people dislike each other so intensely, Rebeckah tried to do that with Heaven but every time they came together aggression got stronger and conflict occurred,it is similar with Aaron and Jay.

I would go further than Aaron though,I could not be in the same area as Jay never mind the same room as him, his disgusting bad personal behaviour would sicken me and I would have to get at him for it.
I would have left BB because of Jay because no way would I personally want to talk with him, listen to him or be anywhere in his presence.
He is a filthy minded, bad mannered lout, Aaron is far stronger than me to even stay.

That's my view, my take on things, yours is vastly different to mine,I would be saying though the same things if it wasn't Aaron but some other housemate who was avoiding Jay.

I don't however think you and I will ever have any agreement on this issue though. We both can only say things as we perceive them to be.
All the best to you personally though.

[Kazanne]

Its a pretty childish and selfish way of dealing with it instead of thinking about whats the best thing for the house as a whole and calling a truce for the sake of the atmosphere in there he is thinking only of himself once again the pathetic wanker.
He is 30 years old for gods sake and he should behave like an adult not a stroppy little 12 year old.

The biggest 'wanker in there is Jay as he has often shown!! Kudos to the man who can say how he feels at 30 he shows how much more mature he is ,Jay is 27 what a difference 3 years can make,why suck up to people you don't like ?the only 'atmosphere' in there is of Jays making by intimidating most of them,most are scared of him Aaron and Harry obviously aren't.IF he had crept up Jays ass,you'de have been on here again banging on about how 'false' he was,I get you dont like him,not everyone will,but you have to get over the fact lots of people do.

[joeysteele]

the same disgusting foulmouthed disgrace of man that offered Aaron the hand of friendship only for it to be bitten off??????

If though you don't want to be friendly with someone who has really made you dislike them for any reason,isn't it false to pretend to make up and be friendly.
Was because she came to dislike her so much, Rebeckah right to ignore Heaven, she did, every time they came together aggression occurred. Heaven kept pushing it sometimes to talk to her though, Rebeckah would not.

Even on bbbots, Rebeckah still only spoke to Heaven to ask a question she had to, after that she sat with her back to her, showing her intense dislike of her.

What is the point of talking to anyone you really detest and know,( especially after the clothes incident), that you cannot trust,There is none.It would be totally false to appear to get on with Jay when you cannot even bear the sound of his voice now as Aaron does, Just as with Rebeckah as to Heaven too.

[Kazanne]

Agree with you Visage. He might loathe the guy - but he can still be civil to him without being friendly and chummy - the impact that this 'complete avoidance' of Jay will have on the other housemates will be like walking on eggshells anytime both of them are in the same area together.....and when other people are affected and feel that unpleasant, unsettled feeling inside: that's when then he'll be nominated. He needs to wise up a little.

I am pretty sure Aaron is not bothered about being nominated or going,he has not compromised his principles,I admire him for that,imo the only person intimidating that house is the big I am Jay,he has most of them scared except for Harry and Aaron,Aaron will be civil ,(he could have totally ignored jay)I respect Aaron for sticking to his beliefs.

[Kazanne]

Maybe Aaron should boost his appeal by taking a huge dump in the freezer???

:joker::joker::joker: and threatening people:joker:

[joeysteele]

I am pretty sure Aaron is not bothered about being nominated or going,he has not compromised his principles,I admire him for that,imo the only person intimidating that house is the big I am Jay,he has most of them scared except for Harry and Aaron,Aaron will be civil ,(he could have totally ignored jay)I respect Aaron for sticking to his beliefs.

I respect Aaron for not pretending to like or be friendly with Jay because he clearly does despise Jay,if he were to act friendly the accusation would be he was being false.

I also admire Aaron for his strength in even staying there,as I have said, I could not be anywhere near Jay and certainly not be able to live in the same house as him like they have to.

In those situations too, when you know someone is out to get at toy or ridicule you, the barest civility is needed,once you bring that barrier down you open the door to all sorts of problems.
If you really don't like someone and believe you cannot trust a word they say and hate near all they do too, 'morning and 'night would be all I could force myself to say to them.

If however they were in trouble or needed help, I would not turn my back completely to helping (if I could) then.

[fruit_cake]

Yes the same disgusting, foulmouthed disgrace of a HYPOCRITICAL man that cynically offered Aaron the hand of friendship when he knows full well the reasons Aaron hates him. Jay is a caricature of a man, a one dimensional thuggish, jack the lad oaf, who obviously thinks everyone should kow tow to him. He can't stand that Aaron won't crawl up his backside and for some obscure reason, Jay seems to think he can just demand respect, instead of earning it.

I have the independence to decide who I want to be friends with, who I talk to, and who I associate with, and I don't mix with and pretend to like people I don't just to make THEM feel better. You see it's called not being a hypocrite. I don't give the time of day to those I despise, why would I? Life is way too short to spend it on such people. I admire Aaron exercising his freedom of choice to mix with who HE wants, and I would actually lose a lot of respect for him if he compromised his principles by pretending to like such an obscene and arrogant buffoon. Now THAT would be called being fake.

well ok, quite an outpouring of emotion there but not much substance to it, imo. I think your making poor Jay into something he isn't there..I think he's quite simple really.

[fruit_cake]

I just hope Aaron doesn't drag Faye into his weird world and isolate her like he is isolating himself

[Pyramid*]

well ok, quite an outpouring of emotion there but not much substance to it, imo. I think your making poor Jay into something he isn't there..I think he's quite simple really.


Poor Jay? You're having a laugh. :D

The only way in which the word 'Poor' can be used in the same sentence as 'Jay' would be for example: Jay is a very poor example of a decent man.

[fruit_cake]

Poor Jay? You're having a laugh. :D

The only way in which the word 'Poor' can be used in the same sentence as 'Jay' would be for example: Jay is a very poor example of a decent man.

you're going of on a tangent there, stick to the topic please :nono:

[Angus]

well ok, quite an outpouring of emotion there but not much substance to it, imo. I think your making poor Jay into something he isn't there..I think he's quite simple really.

Just as your dismissiveness of others' valid points also carries no substance - where is your argument? If you don't want an answer, don't ask. It's nothing to do with emotion, it's to do with observation of people's behaviour in a confined enviroment. Perhaps I'm more old school, because that, to me, is what BB is all about - watching how people behave when they are taken out of their everyday lives and thrown together with a disparate group of people.

The only thing we can agree upon here is that Jay is indeed quite simple.

[Angus]

I just hope Aaron doesn't drag Faye into his weird world and isolate her like he is isolating himself

Haven't seen any evidence that Aaron has dragged her anywhere - in fact she can't seem to leave him alone.

[fruit_cake]

The only thing we can agree upon here is that Jay is indeed quite simple.

well, with respect, now you saying Jay is simple, but just a few posts back he was..

disgusting, foulmouthed disgrace of a HYPOCRITICAL man that cynically offered Aaron the hand of friendship when he knows full well the reasons Aaron hates him. Jay is a caricature of a man, a one dimensional thuggish, jack the lad oaf, who obviously thinks everyone should kow tow to him. He can't stand that Aaron won't crawl up his backside and for some obscure reason, Jay seems to think he can just demand respect, instead of earning it.

That's hardly a description of someone who is simple, imo. To me, your contradicting yourself and it's because you appear to dislike Jay purely based on emotion and not on facts. I could be wrong though, that I accept.

[fruit_cake]

Jay seems to me to be a fairly simple guy to understand

[Pyramid*]

well ok, quite an outpouring of emotion there but not much substance to it, imo. I think your making poor Jay into something he isn't there..I think he's quite simple really.

Poor Jay? You're having a laugh. :D

The only way in which the word 'Poor' can be used in the same sentence as 'Jay' would be for example: Jay is a very poor example of a decent man.

you're going of on a tangent there, stick to the topic please :nono:


You will find I was addressing your very own post at the top. If anyone is taking the matter off topic - then it is you fruit_cake. ;)

[fruit_cake]

You will find I was addressing your very own post at the top. If anyone is taking the matter off topic - then it is you fruit_cake. ;)

I suspected you would say that :joker:

[Visage]

Haven't seen any evidence that Aaron has dragged her anywhere - in fact she can't seem to leave him alone.

Very true.

[Pyramid*]

I suspected you would say that :joker:

Because I hit the nail on the head.

Aaron is able to make his own decisions - unlike Jay - who has to rely on no-marks such as Anton to even 'give him ideas'. (ie: food colouring in bath where clothes were soaking). The guy is lame, in every sense.

[Angus]

well, with respect, now you saying Jay is simple, but just a few posts back he was..



That's hardly a description of someone who is simple, imo. To me, your contradicting yourself and it's because you appear to dislike Jay purely based on emotion and not on facts. I could be wrong though, that I accept.

Oh dear, oh dear - if you do not understand the relationship between being simple (in the broadest sense of the word) and the sorts of obnoxious behaviours that Jay exhibits, it's not really worth discussing further with you.

Furthermore, I make no apology for an emotional reaction to a neanderthal such as him since that is a natural and instinctive reaction based on the evidence of my own observation, intellect, principles, morality etc. It is what each and every one of us, YES even you Fruit_Cake, use to determine who we like, love, hate, dislike, despise, etc etc. We are either drawn to people or repelled by them - and what determines which reaction? Think about it.

[flamingGalah!]

I would be the same as Aaron. Why be two faced & pretend to be pally with people you don't like?? He knows full well that Jay & Anton don't like him & the feeling is more than mutual, so I respect him more for actually be true to himself & telling Jay exactly how it is...

And as others have said, if Aaron DID talk to them & pretend to be pally everyone would be shouting about how two faced he was, slagging them off behind their backs, yet nice to to their face... :rolleyes:

[Suze]

Silence can sometimes be the best healer after difficulties, Aaron actually gave really good advice to Aden tonight just as Heaven tried to once before.

Jay and Anton do call the shots of those 3, Aden is like their office lackey.

I wouldn't just not speak to Jay in the house, I would move away as far as I could from him anytime he came where I was.
As for Anton, he wouldn't exist as far as I was concerned. He's rotten totally.

Did this all happen after Faye's sister arrived? If so, if she has devulged anything to Jay how he is coming across with Aaron, Jay may be upping a gameplan to reel the audience/fans of the show in, is this possible? If Jay is a C5 and Desmond dream for a win, then it could be why someone was added to give him a heads up? And adding Faye's sister could have the opposite effect for Aaron also. After all, why now? why does he suddenly want to make up with someone he seems to be sla**ing off at every given opportunity, if it was heartfelt surely he would have wanted this long before now? I think Aaron has done the right thing to shrug Jay off.

[Ammi]

Silence can sometimes be the best healer after difficulties, Aaron actually gave really good advice to Aden tonight just as Heaven tried to once before.

Jay and Anton do call the shots of those 3, Aden is like their office lackey.

I wouldn't just not speak to Jay in the house, I would move away as far as I could from him anytime he came where I was.
As for Anton, he wouldn't exist as far as I was concerned. He's rotten totally.

Afternoon Joey:wavey:
..Maybe there's another reason Aaron moves away from him.....the reports of his constant farting...I have a theory he farted over the freezer..and things went further than he planned......Didn't he also say something about 'Clearing the air' being the best thing to stop bitching behind peoples backs....yet when Heaven tried to do that with Rebekah and he had the opportunity to 'clear it up'.....he pleaded the fifth amendment......

[Suze]

You could be right about the farting, Ammi. But why I doubt he intended to just fart is that Heaven said the s**tting was a dare didn't she? Not he was dared to fart in it, or any of them including the girls might have been up for that? or were just joking about his farting ;) :joker:

[joeysteele]

Did this all happen after Faye's sister arrived? If so, if she has devulged anything to Jay how he is coming across with Aaron, Jay may be upping a gameplan to reel the audience/fans of the show in, is this possible? If Jay is a C5 and Desmond dream for a win, then it could be why someone was added to give him a heads up? And adding Faye's sister could have the opposite effect for Aaron also. After all, why now? why does he suddenly want to make up with someone he seems to be sla**ing off at every given opportunity, if it was heartfelt surely he would have wanted this long before now? I think Aaron has done the right thing to shrug Jay off.

Well it is also down to the editing, I have to admit this is getting annoying that we get bits of things likely even out of context which is very bad really.

Aaron was talking to Aden, they were having a good chat and Aden agreed with near all Aaron was saying or appeared to, Jay then joined them,always heading where Aaron is as well as anyone else and the conversation ended.

Earlier though, Jay had gone to Aaron and asked him if there was anything he wanted to say to him. Aaron said he couldn't be bothered with it all and they then had a short discussion that ended with Aaron saying he knew people were saying things behind others backs that they weren't to their faces.

Jay ended with 'you have got me thinking now as to who is 2 faced'.

It was a fair chat however,then Aden came out and joined Jay and Jay just said to Aden, 'I just asked him if he had anything he wanted to say to me' and he said 'not really'.

How much of that was down to editing I don't know but if Jay only said that to Aden, he inferred that Aaron had said only 'not really' and headed off with none of the other dialogue mentioned thereby making Aaron look very bad.

[joeysteele]

Afternoon Joey:wavey:
..Maybe there's another reason Aaron moves away from him.....the reports of his constant farting...I have a theory he farted over the freezer..and things went further than he planned......Didn't he also say something about 'Clearing the air' being the best thing to stop bitching behind peoples backs....yet when Heaven tried to do that with Rebekah and he had the opportunity to 'clear it up'.....he pleaded the fifth amendment......

Afternoon to you too Ammi, ugh he's so gross, I really find him disgusting.

It wouldn't surprise me if he smells of mess,it comes from both ends of him anyway.

[Ammi]

Afternoon to you too Ammi, ugh he's so gross, I really find him disgusting.

It wouldn't surprise me if he smells of mess,it comes from both ends of him anyway.

.....LMAO Joey........

[Suze]

Thanks for explaining Joey. In all honesty, I am resigned to the fact that BB want Jay who is the only one in that house who actually repulses me the more he does in there, to win with Alex runner up, and that is probably what they will get So I am under no delusions we will get anything else if BB have their way. The dinner with Jay's Mum booby prize sort of clinched the list of suspect things with this BB.

[Wee-Mo]

aaron needs to grow a set of balls he should have told jay exactly what he was miffed about but was to scared to,

[fruit_cake]

so the conclusion of this thread..Arron needs to grow up and move on

[billy123]

so the conclusion of this thread..Arron needs to grow up and move on
Pretty much yes he is acting like a 12 year old brat and i see he is pretty much hated everywhere online except here which makes me happy :~)
His support from here seems to be evaporating too except the kids that cant spot people being duplicitous.

[fruit_cake]

Pretty much yes he is acting like a 12 year old brat and i see he is pretty much hated everywhere online except here which makes me happy :~)

yep this forum is an Arron safe zone but outside of here everyone else can see what we can see..there are more and more who see it everyday too as far as I can see

[MTVN]

I wouldnt say he's hated everywhere else online at all, he's leading the "Favourite Housemate" poll on DS as well

[Kazanne]

yep this forum is an Arron safe zone but outside of here everyone else can see what we can see..there are more and more who see it everyday too as far as I can see

:joker::joker::joker:Aaron is not hated at all,but if it makes you feel better you keep telling yourself that,Most of US see what a few REFUSE to:joker:

[Angus]

aaron needs to grow a set of balls he should have told jay exactly what he was miffed about but was to scared to,

What programme are you watching fgs? - he did tell him. There's probably a lot more history between Aaron and Jay as well that we haven't been shown, and Jay understood exactly what Aaron was saying.

[Angus]

so the conclusion of this thread..Arron needs to grow up and move on

No, I think you'll find that is just your conclusion. The rest of us will continue to debate the point without others deciding when the subject is closed.

[Ammi]

What programme are you watching fgs? - he did tell him. There's probably a lot more history between Aaron and Jay as well that we haven't been shown, and Jay understood exactly what Aaron was saying.

It was interesting when Jay referred to Aaron's popularity because of the crowd cheers when he was up...seems to me a lot of the housemates started resenting Aaron from that time..it's like Jay's struggling to keep that resentment under control..

[fruit_cake]

:joker::joker::joker:Aaron is not hated at all,but if it makes you feel better you keep telling yourself that,Most of US see what a few REFUSE to:joker:

I don't think he's hated, those were Bobnots words but I share his sentiment that Arron is not nearly as liked as the Arron fans in here would like us to believe.

[Angus]

I don't think he's hated, those were Bobnots words but I share his sentiment that Arron is not nearly as liked as the Arron fans in here would like us to believe.

Aaron is second fave to win after Alex, and is also Top Male Fave across all betting sites, and Harry is continuously closing the gap with Jay and will soon overtake him.

Aaron also tops the poll on here as well as on Digital Spy where he has 39.18% of the vote, Harry has 24.46% whilst poor old Jay has just 3.26% of the vote:joker:

Sorry to burst your bubble, but it's not the fault of Aaron fans if the haters can't interpret the figures.

[billy123]

Aaron is second fave to win after Alex, and is also Top Male Fave across all betting sites, and Harry is continuously closing the gap with Jay and will soon overtake him.

Aaron also tops the poll on here as well as on Digital Spy where he has 39.18% of the vote, Harry has 24.46% whilst poor old Jay has just 3.26% of the vote:joker:

Sorry to burst your bubble, but it's not the fault of Aaron fans if the haters can't interpret the figures.
He is also one of the least favourites on ds polls :xyxwave:

[joeysteele]

so the conclusion of this thread..Arron needs to grow up and move on

I think he will, I doubt he and Jay will ever get firendly because for some reasons that we haven't likely seen due to editing he is well aware he cannot trust Jay and Anton.

I wouldn't trust or mix with Jay if I was in the house, from what I see of him in the house, it would be harder with Anton because his 2 facedness is done in the diary room.

I watched the highlights last night and the night before, Aaron seems really glad Faye has stayed, I really believe he does like her and think she does him too.
Maisy said they intend to see each other on the outside as sort of dating so it's clear they do like each other.

Now he's got over the Faye/Maisy incident of a few weeks ago, I hope he picks up, it seems Jemma doesn't dislike him as he thinks she does, since she said in the diary room, Aaron has been quiet but she thinks he's just shy.

If he keeps away from Jay,he will need to do that for his sanity really,trust him and Anton with nothing, also if he can hold the friendship of Harry and Alex, I think now Faye may be his saving grace.I hope I am right in thinking that but they do seem really genuine together now, even more so since her Sister came in.

I would like to see all work out for them anyway.

[MTVN]

He is also one of the least favourites on ds polls :xyxwave:

8.8%? Not really

[Angus]

He is also one of the least favourites on ds polls :xyxwave:

Clutching at straws aren't we? I note Jay has over 40% as least favourite on DS compared to just 8.80% for Aaron. Furthermore, it's vote to save this year so the haters will have more trouble getting him out, especially in a 3 or 4 way vote where Jay, Anton and/or Aden were in the mix:xyxwave:

[billy123]

8.8%? Not really
really? 3rd least favourite in the ds polls is one of the least favourites isnt it?

[MTVN]

really? 3rd least favourite in the polls is one of the least favourites isnt it?

Technically I guess so, but it's still quite a small share of the vote and given that he is leading the favourite housemate poll and I wouldn't say it's a signifier that he's hated everywhere away from TiBB

[Angus]

It was interesting when Jay referred to Aaron's popularity because of the crowd cheers when he was up...seems to me a lot of the housemates started resenting Aaron from that time..it's like Jay's struggling to keep that resentment under control..

Jay also said he wished he was up (what a liar) - I hope Aaron and co will grant his wish this week.

I believe a lot has been hidden from the public about Jay's behaviour in the house. Right from the start with the ridiculous wolfpack gang Jay has tried to control the other hms and appointed himself Head of House. Unfortunately for him Aaron and Harry just won't give the guy the respect he thinks is his due, and I think the shopping task rebellion was a way for them to put Jay firmly in his place:joker: Harry said last night that if they gave Jay enough rope he'd hang himself and it seems to be working.

[rusticgal]

so the conclusion of this thread..Arron needs to grow up and move on

No the conclusion to this thread is that Aaron is his own man...he is of an age when he doesnt feel the need to make small talk to people he despises.
So what if he is in the BB house!! So what if other people around him might find the atmosphere bad... Aaron does not NEED them...his friends are the ones he respects.
He is not being two faced and he is not acting....he is being true to himself and thats what I admire.

Many of you talk about Aarons immaturity 'for sulking'...he is not sulking just because he doesnt talk to people he does not like. There are a few immature people in there and Aaron is not one of them.
Jay is not only immature...everything about him is course and vile!!!:dance:

[Cromwell1900]

Jay also said he wished he was up (what a liar) - I hope Aaron and co will grant his wish this week.

I believe a lot has been hidden from the public about Jay's behaviour in the house. Right from the start with the ridiculous wolfpack gang Jay has tried to control the other hms and appointed himself Head of House. Unfortunately for him Aaron and Harry just won't give the guy the respect he thinks is his due, and I think the shopping task rebellion was a way for them to put Jay firmly in his place:joker: Harry said last night that if they gave Jay enough rope he'd hang himself and it seems to be working.


You may not of seen it but Aaron showed last night that he is not averse to a bit of controlling other Hm's himself.

Firstly misleading Harry as to what Jay had said to him, then actively encouraging Faye to smoke after her sister was clearly against it.

Trouble for Aaron now as we saw toward the end of Hl's last night Aaron will be hanging onto Faye like a noose around her neck, and i think will become a wedge between Gem & Faye.

[Angus]

You may not of seen it but Aaron showed last night that he is not averse to a bit of controlling other Hm's himself.

Firstly misleading Harry as to what Jay had said to him, then actively encouraging Faye to smoke after her sister was clearly against it.

Trouble for Aaron now as we saw toward the end of Hl's last night Aaron will be hanging onto Faye like a noose around her neck, and i think will become a wedge between Gem & Faye.

I sometimes wonder if we are all watching the same show. I watched the HLs last night and I didn't hear Aaron misleading Harry about the convo (in fact I've just watched that clip again to make sure) - but I did hear Jay doing that with Aden. As for the smoking thing, last time I looked Faye was a fully grown woman with a mind of her own, who is not answerable to any one, and that includes her sister.

[Cromwell1900]

I sometimes wonder if we are all watching the same show. I watched the HLs last night and I didn't hear Aaron misleading Harry about the convo (in fact I've just watched that clip again to make sure) - but I did hear Jay doing that with Aden. As for the smoking thing, last time I looked Faye was a fully grown woman with a mind of her own, who is not answerable to any one, and that includes her sister.



Jay & Aaron
Aaron - I know who are having conversations behind peoples backs in here
(later)
Jay - you've got me thinking about who is being sly

Aaron & Harry
Aaron - I told him i'm not going to pretend i like you for fear of nomination's
Harry - What did he say to that
Aaron - He didn't really say anything, and then he goes arr so that means your telling me people are being sly.

I think that would make Jay sound like a total...... in the eyes of Harry and regardless it is misleading.

As for Jay misleading Aden. Well he condensed a 5 or 6 point discussion into 2, because that's what people do. It sounded accurate to me though but that is a matter of opinion rather than something to be proven.


Hopefully that clears up the rubbish that is being spoken about Aaron being trustworthy


And yes Faye can do what she likes, but i find it weird that he would encourage her to smoke.

[rk3388]

What programme are you watching fgs? - he did tell him.

No he did not. he told aden, he told harry, he told tom, he told faye, but he defiantly didnt tell jay

[joeysteele]

I sometimes wonder if we are all watching the same show. I watched the HLs last night and I didn't hear Aaron misleading Harry about the convo (in fact I've just watched that clip again to make sure) - but I did hear Jay doing that with Aden. As for the smoking thing, last time I looked Faye was a fully grown woman with a mind of her own, who is not answerable to any one, and that includes her sister.

You are right, the only one not telling the conversations as they were in the main was Jay to Aden. However that may be in part to the editing.We don't know unfortunately if Jay said all Aaron said to him so we can only go from what was actually shown.

I doubt Harry needs any convincing that Jay is a total waste of space, Harry knows Jay lied through his teeth and would have continued to do so had Harry dropped the bath issue which would have meant other housemates under suspicion all the time too.
Harry also did after all tell Aden he was Jays ...., (unpleasant something).

As for Faye, I am coming round to the belief Faye really likes Aaron now,I don't think Jemma has a problem with Aaron either,she said in the diary room, he had been quiet but she thinks he is shy, that doesn't sound like someone who will set out to make bother for him.

As you say Angus, sometimes you are left wondering if people are watching the same thing you are, I watched this 3 times,(maybe the editing is the problem) but the only person not relaying conversations as they were was Jay.

[Cromwell1900]

You are right, the only one not telling the conversations as they were in the main was Jay to Aden. However that may be in part to the editing.We don't know unfortunately if Jay said all Aaron said to him so we can only go from what was actually shown.

I doubt Harry needs any convincing that Jay is a total waste of space, Harry knows Jay lied through his teeth and would have continued to do so had Harry dropped the bath issue which would have meant other housemates under suspicion all the time too.
Harry also did after all tell Aden he was Jays ...., (unpleasant something).

As for Faye, I am coming round to the belief Faye really likes Aaron now,I don't think Jemma has a problem with Aaron either,she said in the diary room, he had been quiet but she thinks he is shy, that doesn't sound like someone who will set out to make bother for him.

As you say Angus, sometimes you are left wondering if people are watching the same thing you are, I watched this 3 times,(maybe the editing is the problem) but the only person not relaying conversations as they were was Jay.

Do you not find my previous post convincing Joey, and can i ask why please?

[joeysteele]

Do you not find my previous post convincing Joey, and can i ask why please?

I don't think it indicates what you were inferring as to Aaron being untrustworthy convincing at all,so no,sorry. That is not simply my recollection or perception of the events in total so I cannot on this occasion agree with your summary of it.

I consider Jay leaving near all out from a conversation and making it sound like Aaron only said 2 words to him far more misleading and more evident of being untrustworthy.

Aaron actually said anyway, 'he couldn't be bothered with it' at first when Jay asked if there was something he wanted to say to him.
Then all Jay said to Aden was, he(Jay) asked Aaron if there was anything he wanted to say to him,then Jay said all Aaron replied was not really.

Totally wrong relaying of the conversation but it would leave Aden thinking that Jay had asked that, Aaron had said 'not really' then just walked off sayng no more, when in fact a fair bit of conversation passed between them.

As I pointed out maybe the editing could be to blame and we maybe don't get the full context of what was said and relayed. Simple as that.

[Cromwell1900]

I don't think it indicates what you were inferring as to Aaron being untrustworthy convincing at all,so no,sorry. That is not simply my recollection or perception of the events in total so I cannot on this occasion agree with your summary of it.

I consider Jay leaving near all out from a conversation and making it sound like Aaron only said 2 words to him far more misleading and more evident of being untrustworthy.

Aaron actually said anyway, 'he couldn't be bothered with it' at first when Jay asked if there was something he wanted to say to him.
Then all Jay said to Aden was, he(Jay) asked Aaron if there was anything he wanted to say to him,then Jay said all Aaron replied was not really.

Totally wrong relaying of the conversation but it would leave Aden thinking that Jay had asked that, Aaron had said 'not really' then just walked off sayng no more, when in fact a fair bit of conversation passed between them.

As I pointed out maybe the editing could be to blame and we maybe don't get the full context of what was said and relayed. Simple as that.


Fair Enough. It is amazing to me though that even when faced with such convincing evidence you are able to dismiss it. If you are also saying Aaron may not of said that, you would realize he did on a re-watch.

But i am inclined to except what your saying about the Jay Convo. I think he was paraphrasing as we all do, and you take a view as to whether the things that are dropped are crucial to the relayed message being accurate. I think he did an adequate job, but i can see how someone else could think differently.

[Gizmo]

I used to like Aaron and he was my fav but he's gone right down in my estimation.

The way he behaved when Jem came in was pathetic. He could hardly bring himself to get up off the sofa to meet her. He says he shy but he could have made more of an effort - it appeared rude and he must know that at his age.

Then he told Faye he would get Jem smoking by the end of the week just because Faye was seeking Jem's approval about her smoking. Jem doesn't want to see her sister harm herself but Aaron couldn't respect that.

And I'm getting irritated watching Aaron's withdrawn behaviour, must be hell for the HMs to live with. He's not good at burying the hatchet after a row and seems to go into this prolongued state of passive anger. For the sake of getting on with other HMs he should learn to snap out of it like the others do.

[Visage]

I used to like Aaron and he was my fav but he's gone right down in my estimation.

What did you like about him to make him your favourite in the beginning ?





The way he behaved when Jem came in was pathetic. He could hardly bring himself to get up off the sofa to meet her. He says he shy but he could have made more of an effort - it appeared rude and he must know that at his age.


I don't think he behaved pathetic, sitting there waiting until the rush of housemates greeting the newbie is polite and not rude.

Rushing in knocking over the housemates so you can be the first to welcome the newbie could be considered rude behaviour.





Then he told Faye he would get Jem smoking by the end of the week just because Faye was seeking Jem's approval about her smoking. Jem doesn't want to see her sister harm herself but Aaron couldn't respect that.

He was joking.......




And I'm getting irritated watching Aaron's withdrawn behaviour, must be hell for the HMs to live with. He's not good at burying the hatchet after a row and seems to go into this prolongued state of passive anger. For the sake of getting on with other HMs he should learn to snap out of it like the others do.

I wish he would lighten up too, if only for the sake of the experience.

[Gizmo]

[QUOTE=Visage;4636716]What did you like about him to make him your favourite in the beginning ?


I used to think he was kind and thoughtful. Now I think he's egocentric for not appreciating how much his prolongued sulks must impact on others.

[rk3388]

i agree with gizom, i thought he was genuine and gave him a chance after his vile vt, but he is just bland and manipulative ( IMO ) His fake crying is also getting on my nerves