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Cromwell1900
21-10-2011, 10:37 PM
Clearly Aaron is playing a game but to what extent we don't yet know.

Anton say's he's trying to trick the public and is a master at the BB game having applied 4 times to be part of the show.

Thought's?

Niamh.
21-10-2011, 10:38 PM
Of course Anton would say that though

tomflint
21-10-2011, 10:38 PM
They are all playing a game!!

rusticgal
21-10-2011, 10:46 PM
Well we have all seen what a good liar Anton has been..... you think he is going to come out the house supporting the man that got the better of him??? the man that along with Harry showed him to be the lying manipulative person he was....he will do anything to make Aaron out to be a bad person and blame the editing....and his lies will go on....

Gravedigger
21-10-2011, 10:51 PM
Clearly Aaron is playing a game but to what extent we don't yet know.

Anton say's he's trying to trick the public and is a master at the BB game having applied 4 times to be part of the show.

Thought's?

I think that Anton's imagination is in need of a good rest and hopefully now it will get one.

Aaron may have a game plan but either way he comes across as someone who isn't trying too hard. This evidently drives some people up the wall!

Cromwell1900
21-10-2011, 10:51 PM
Of course Anton would say that though

Vic said it on Bots a few nights ago also saying Aaron has studied the formula of winning BB

Harry has said His "attention to detail is Unreal" regarding his relations with Faye.

Aaron himself said he has manipulated the noms.

The evidence of Aaron being a Master Game player is mounting.

Niamh.
21-10-2011, 10:54 PM
Vic said it on Bots a few nights ago also saying Aaron has studied the formula of winning BB

Harry has said His "attention to detail is Unreal" regarding his relations with Faye.

Aaron himself said he has manipulated the noms.

The evidence of Aaron being a Master Game player is mounting.

Well, it is a game after all. I don't think he'll win though, unfortunately that crown belongs to Alex, she has the formula sussed better than anyone

karezza
21-10-2011, 10:56 PM
Big Brother is a gameshow. The winner receives £100,000. Every housemate has a strategy. The housemate with the best strategy wins.

Patricia4
21-10-2011, 10:57 PM
They go in to try to win its a game Aaron is the one everyone wants to talk about when they come out of the house they all have something to say about him.
Keep playing the game Aaron

Maia
21-10-2011, 11:01 PM
Big Brother is a gameshow. The winner receives £100,000. Every housemate has a strategy. The housemate with the best strategy wins.

That's American Big Brother. Our version is completely different and isn't a strategy-based gameshow, it's a popularity/personality contest, and if the public don't like you or your personality, you're out. Simple as that.

Cromwell1900
21-10-2011, 11:01 PM
Well we have all seen what a good liar Anton has been..... you think he is going to come out the house supporting the man that got the better of him??? the man that along with Harry showed him to be the lying manipulative person he was....he will do anything to make Aaron out to be a bad person and blame the editing....and his lies will go on....

He's been a snake in the house, i kind of do expect him to be honest when he comes out. But sure he may still be bitter.

The Master game player idea is coming from more than Anton though. It has many sources largely Aaron himself.

Vicky.
21-10-2011, 11:02 PM
Love how all the people who dislike Aaron are now believing what Anton says :joker:

Are you aware that he also called Aaron a legend? :D

Niamh.
21-10-2011, 11:04 PM
Love how all the people who dislike Aaron are now believing what Anton says :joker:

Are you aware that he also called Aaron a legend? :D

Selective hearing I do believe :idc:

StraightEdge695
21-10-2011, 11:06 PM
there all playing a game... but aaron will win the game

Cromwell1900
21-10-2011, 11:06 PM
Well, it is a game after all. I don't think he'll win though, unfortunately that crown belongs to Alex, she has the formula sussed better than anyone

Alex is harmless though.

True though it is a game in which Hm's can manipulate other Hm's in order to win the prize, i just don't like that the public may be roped into the plan.

Cromwell1900
21-10-2011, 11:13 PM
Big Brother is a gameshow. The winner receives £100,000. Every housemate has a strategy. The housemate with the best strategy wins.

I actually thought Aaron's USP has been his "Great Guy" image rather than his skill at the Game. Interesting to see how this new image for Aaron goes down with the public. History shows Players don't do well.

Vicky.
21-10-2011, 11:15 PM
I actually thought Aaron's USP has been his "Great Guy" image rather than his skill at the Game. Interesting to see how this new image for Aaron goes down with the public. History shows Players don't do well.

Tbh I doubt many people will take what Anton had to say very seriously. The only ones who will still be harping on about it come the final...are the people who disliked Aaron to start with and are looking for a new angle to attack from :)

Visage
21-10-2011, 11:16 PM
How does applying to BB 4 times make someone a better master at the game than someone who has applied only once ?

Kazanne
21-10-2011, 11:17 PM
Clearly Aaron is playing a game but to what extent we don't yet know.

Anton say's he's trying to trick the public and is a master at the BB game having applied 4 times to be part of the show.

Thought's?

Anton played a game unfortunately he chose to play it nasty,and look where that got him,Aaron on the other hand may be playing a blinder or maybe he is not playing a game either way,he is a great HM

Vicky.
21-10-2011, 11:17 PM
How does applying to BB 4 times make someone a better master at the game than someone who has applied only once ?

One would imagine that if someone was had BB totally mastered, they would only need to apply once, as they would get straight in since they would be portraying themselves as the perfect housemate :laugh:

Angus
21-10-2011, 11:18 PM
Vic said it on Bots a few nights ago also saying Aaron has studied the formula of winning BB

Harry has said His "attention to detail is Unreal" regarding his relations with Faye.

Aaron himself said he has manipulated the noms.

The evidence of Aaron being a Master Game player is mounting.

And your point is? Big Brother is a game show, if you hadn't noticed, and every single one of the HMs is "playing a game". However, some manage to do it in an entertaining, engaging and interactive way with the viewers, without having to backstab, lie, cheat and be spiteful to other HMs. Aaron is doing remarkably well considering that even the producers are targetting him to take him down, let alone the other HMs. He has been a favourite right from the off, and it's incredible that his popularity increases instead of diminishes, despite BB's best efforts to discredit him.

Visage
21-10-2011, 11:18 PM
One would imagine that if someone was had BB totally mastered, they would only need to apply once, as they would get straight in since they would be portraying themselves as the perfect housemate :laugh:

Ha ha !! Nice one :D

Cromwell1900
21-10-2011, 11:19 PM
That's American Big Brother. Our version is completely different and isn't a strategy-based gameshow, it's a popularity/personality contest, and if the public don't like you or your personality, you're out. Simple as that.

Yep!

Aaron stepping out of the players closet, must make people think. Will the real Aaron please stand up.

Do you Sulk or is it a tactic to gain sympathy
Are you nice to people because your a nice guy or because you want there votes.
Are you Interested in Faye or using her because it's a tactical aim to have a relationship.

All these things can be justified by a good game plan can they? i'm not sure.

Cromwell1900
21-10-2011, 11:26 PM
Vic said it on Bots a few nights ago also saying Aaron has studied the formula of winning BB

Harry has said His "attention to detail is Unreal" regarding his relations with Faye.

Aaron himself said he has manipulated the noms.

The evidence of Aaron being a Master Game player is mounting.

Love how all the people who dislike Aaron are now believing what Anton says :joker:

Are you aware that he also called Aaron a legend? :D

I don't think that is relevant given what i have said previously.

Cromwell1900
21-10-2011, 11:36 PM
Tbh I doubt many people will take what Anton had to say very seriously. The only ones who will still be harping on about it come the final...are the people who disliked Aaron to start with and are looking for a new angle to attack from :)

I can trace this particular "attack" your words, back to around the toy task. Any claim you make of springing up from something Anton has said alone is provably wrong. :blush:

Angus
21-10-2011, 11:55 PM
Clearly Aaron is playing a game but to what extent we don't yet know.

Anton say's he's trying to trick the public and is a master at the BB game having applied 4 times to be part of the show.

Thought's?

Well clearly more people are enjoying Aaron's "game" otherwise he wouldn't still be in the house:laugh:

joeysteele
22-10-2011, 12:02 AM
I would never believe a word that Anton said anyway but no thank goodness, the snake was clearly given the boot from the house tonight and it's long overdue too.

Cromwell1900
22-10-2011, 12:19 AM
Well clearly more people are enjoying Aaron's "game" otherwise he wouldn't still be in the house:laugh:

That's the point, he's hidden his game. Although to be fair to him he entered the house stating he had a game plan, but then when no one actually saw further evidence of it, it looked like just a claim that Hm's make to big them selves up. Everyone saw him as a Great Guy in a house full of morons.

Maisy spoiled his cupcake = maisy is blamed
Faye burps in his ear = Faye is blamed
Jay is blanked by him = Jay is blamed

All because Aaron is a great guy. Right? Wrong. this is the shock people have to come. The first obvious revel was him talking to the cameras, then admitting to Gem he manipulated Hm's nominations. Now Anton adds to the speculation in the public's mind.

Visage
22-10-2011, 12:31 AM
That's the point, he's hidden his game. Although to be fair to him he entered the house stating he had a game plan, but then when no one actually saw further evidence of it, it looked like just a claim that Hm's make to big them selves up. Everyone saw him as a Great Guy in a house full of morons.

Maisy spoiled his cupcake = maisy is blamed
Faye burps in his ear = Faye is blamed
Jay is blanked by him = Jay is blamed

All because Aaron is a great guy. Right? Wrong. this is the shock people have to come. The first obvious revel was him talking to the cameras, then admitting to Gem he manipulated Hm's nominations. Now Anton adds to the speculation in the public's mind.

I get that he's playing a game as I believe most housemates do this. The difference I have seen with Aaron is he hasn't come across as disgusting as Jay or as two faced as Anton to me and some could say I'm watching him through rose tinted glass. I have always believed he is genuine and I have found myself agreeing with him in regards to some of the things that have happened in the house.


If he comes out (well he's going to at some point) and admits that he's played the game just as he had planned from the beginning then I would still be happy and think hats off to him for playing the game. That's the kinda housemate that I like to watch. He's no hero though and he bloody annoys me at times, but then even my own family do that.

Cromwell1900
22-10-2011, 12:51 AM
I get that he's playing a game as I believe most housemates do this. The difference I have seen with Aaron is he hasn't come across as disgusting as Jay or as two faced as Anton to me and some could say I'm watching him through rose tinted glass. I have always believed he is genuine and I have found myself agreeing with him in regards to some of the things that have happened in the house.


If he comes out (well he's going to at some point) and admits that he's played the game just as he had planned from the beginning then I would still be happy and think hats off to him for playing the game. That's the kinda housemate that I like to watch. He's no hero though and he bloody annoys me at times, but then even my own family do that.

That's fair enough. This is where we differ, but there's nowt wrong with that.

The public as far as i can remember? have always disliked the massive game players. And by massive i mean

Alex, Rachele Rice, Josie small
Small players they are generally themselves but may adjust there personality slightly to make life easier in the house

Victor, Anton big
Actively take an interest in messing with Hm's and manipulate voting, keeping the audience involved

Rex, Aaron massive
All the above but, make no admission even to the public that they are playing a game.


The Massive players never win i think.

Visage
22-10-2011, 01:03 AM
That's fair enough. This is where we differ, but there's nowt wrong with that.

The public as far as i can remember? have always disliked the massive game players. And by massive i mean

Alex, Rachele Rice, Josie small
Small players they are generally themselves but may adjust there personality slightly to make life easier in the house

Victor, Anton big
Actively take an interest in messing with Hm's and manipulate voting, keeping the audience involved

Rex, Aaron massive
All the above but, make no admission even to the public that they are playing a game.


The Massive players never win i think.

I think your examples of the different playing styles are spot on. I also agree that the massive players never win and I really don't think Aaron will break that trend.

I do enjoy the game playing, but more-so where the players don't announce it (those that do annoy me because they come across really bigheaded)

Of course it isn't just about the game playing, the housemate has to have certain qualities for me otherwise game or no game I wouldn't be interested.

It will be really interesting to see what affect Anton's departure will have on Aaron. Anton said that Aaron brought the worst out in him and I think the same can be said for Anton with Aaron.

psychtracker
22-10-2011, 01:10 AM
If Aaron is truly is as studied up on BB as Anton claims, and i'm not saying he's not...he's made some major gaffs with his game plan! His over reactions to stuff, i don't think have particularly endeared himself to the public. ie. the Jay joke carrying on, the frosted flakes incident, Faye burping. And generally moping around the house, not talking to people, isn't a good look! He certainly hasn't played the "perfect game".

Blink_Me
22-10-2011, 01:18 AM
What's the object of Big Brother? To win the show.

Despite what anyone says, you go in there to win the show and the money.

Cromwell1900
22-10-2011, 01:22 AM
I think your examples of the different playing styles are spot on. I also agree that the massive players never win and I really don't think Aaron will break that trend.

I do enjoy the game playing, but more-so where the players don't announce it (those that do annoy me because they come across really bigheaded)

Of course it isn't just about the game playing, the housemate has to have certain qualities for me otherwise game or no game I wouldn't be interested.

It will be really interesting to see what affect Anton's departure will have on Aaron. Anton said that Aaron brought the worst out in him and I think the same can be said for Anton with Aaron.

I always thought it was so clever of Aaron in the way he used Anton's weight against him, like in the stranded task, Anton set it up to humiliate Aaron, but Aaron came out of it the winner.

I can see Gem now being Aarons only detractor, as i think Jay is a spent force, which is weird to say but yea, He's happy just to get along with Aaron now.

amalla1970
22-10-2011, 01:24 AM
Everyone is playing the game of course. I dont think he is tricking the public. when nominations where alloud to talk Anton tried to make everyone vote Aaron and Aaron in a way did the same thing just like everyone else.

Cromwell1900
22-10-2011, 01:27 AM
If Aaron is truly is as studied up on BB as Anton claims, and i'm not saying he's not...he's made some major gaffs with his game plan! His over reactions to stuff, i don't think have particularly endeared himself to the public. ie. the Jay joke carrying on, the frosted flakes incident, Faye burping. And generally moping around the house, not talking to people, isn't a good look! He certainly hasn't played the "perfect game".

Well no one can play a perfect game for so long i guess.

makes me wonder where Aaron ends and the Player starts

I can never figure out if he is naturally moody or it's a way to get sympathy with the Audience & Hm's If i were to guess id say it's natural

psychtracker
22-10-2011, 01:30 AM
I always thought it was so clever of Aaron in the way he used Anton's weight against him, like in the stranded task, Anton set it up to humiliate Aaron, but Aaron came out of it the winner.

Agree. I made a few posts in a thread yesterday, that more often Anton's villain role would enhance Aaron popularity rather than detract. And also just make for a more entertaining last couple of weeks. But it was squashed by the frenzied lynch mob mentality to get Anton out!

Cromwell1900
22-10-2011, 01:35 AM
Agree. I made a few posts in a thread yesterday, that more often Anton's villain role would enhance Aaron popularity rather than detract. And also just make for a more entertaining last couple of weeks. But it was squashed by the frenzied lynch mob mentality to get Anton out!

Give Gem a chance. The way she talked to Aaron in the bathroom early on ie

don't try to hide just be yourself cos i can see through it if you don't.

She may just provide the conflict BB needs now Anton has gone.

psychtracker
22-10-2011, 01:41 AM
I can never figure out if he is naturally moody or it's a way to get sympathy with the Audience & Hm's If i were to guess id say it's natural

I think he's naturally moody, but also playing it up a bit. Kinda putting himself on the moral high ground, and playing at his disappointment over these "immature kids" he has to live with. He's walking a fine line between coming off as the Grumpy Dad vs The Voice of Reason.

psychtracker
22-10-2011, 01:49 AM
Give Gem a chance. The way she talked to Aaron in the bathroom early on ie

don't try to hide just be yourself cos i can see through it if you don't.

She may just provide the conflict BB needs now Anton has gone.

Oh yeah! Jem's got way more potential to damage Aaron than Anton ever had!