View Full Version : Jem Ever thought Jem is looking out for Faye?
Benjamin
22-10-2011, 09:42 AM
This goes mostly to the Aaron fans who seem to think that he is 100% perfect. Most of you say that Jem is poisoning Faye's mind but have you ever stopped to think that she is looking out for her sister? I know I'd be the same if it was me and my sister in there. Trusting a relationship in a BB house can be emotionally destroying.
Let me put it to you this way; if it was you and your sibling in there would you not also be cautious and feel protective to your younger sibling?
karezza
22-10-2011, 09:46 AM
I wonder if the poisonous Jem has ruined Faye's previous relationships?
Benjamin
22-10-2011, 09:47 AM
I wonder if the poisonous Jem has ruined Faye's previous relationships?
Have no siblings then yourself?
Visage
22-10-2011, 09:47 AM
It would be nice to think Jem is looking out for her sister, but as they've never been close and always arguing I doubt that could be repaired in just a few weeks.
More like Jem is jealous that Faye seems happy.
For the record, as a fan of Aaron I do not think and never have thought he is 100% perfect
lisa12000
22-10-2011, 09:48 AM
I would urge caution pretty much like she did the first couple of days but i would know that she isnt a baby and needs to make up her own mind and make her own mistakes and leave her to it and just be a shoulder to cry on if things go wrong; All this is doing is causing arguments between the sisters and a rift will grow especially if Fayes feelings are that strong
I find the hatred pouring from Jem quite disturbing, i genuinely think she wanted to go in there and spend all her time with Faye and shes jealous of the closeness she has with someone else, and found it a low blow when she said "mum will think hes a ****head" Shes trying to control Faye, but in the end all she will do is destroy any relationship she has with her
Benjamin
22-10-2011, 09:49 AM
It would be nice to think Jem is looking out for her sister, but as they've never been close and always arguing I doubt that could be repaired in just a few weeks.
More like Jem is jealous that Faye seems happy.
For the record, as a fan of Aaron I do not think and never have thought he is 100% perfect
Why would she be jealous, she has a boyfriend on the outside and clearly loves him.
Benjamin
22-10-2011, 09:50 AM
I would urge caution pretty much like she did the first couple of days but i would know that she isnt a baby and needs to make up her own mind and make her own mistakes and leave her to it and just be a shoulder to cry on if things go wrong; All this is doing is causing arguments between the sisters and a rift will grow especially if Fayes feelings are that strong
I find the hatred pouring from Jem quite disturbing, i genuinely think she wanted to go in there and spend all her time with Faye and shes jealous of the closeness she has with someone else, and found it a low blow when she said "mum will think hes a ****head" Shes trying to control Faye, but in the end all she will do is destroy any relationship she has with her
Maybe their mum does think that already, remember Jem went in late so may know her mums opinion on him.
davidrox2010
22-10-2011, 09:51 AM
This goes mostly to the Aaron fans who seem to think that he is 100% perfect. Most of you say that Jem is poisoning Faye's mind but have you ever stopped to think that she is looking out for her sister? I know I'd be the same if it was me and my sister in there. Trusting a relationship in a BB house can be emotionally destroying.
Let me put it to you this way; if it was you and your sibling in there would you not also be cautious and feel protective to your younger sibling?
I actually agree with you here for the reason that I think that Jem wants to form a bond with her sister and she has seen Aaron on the Telly and already made an immediate judgement of him whether Faye likes it or not so I can see the reason for Jem's actions
I get the impression that Faye's family dont like Aaron at all, and I dont blame them... Jem has heard all the stuff Aaron has said about their 'relationship' and that he doesnt really seem to like her etc.. Im glad Jem stayed last night because shes the only HM left that can break that hidious relationship up
Visage
22-10-2011, 09:56 AM
Why would she be jealous, she has a boyfriend on the outside and clearly loves him.
Because from what I have seen and what's been said about their relationship over the years I get the impression that she is Jealous Faye is doing well on her own.
Fine if she wants to add her personal thoughts on Aaron, but to keep going at it with him indicates to me she doesn't want to see Faye happy.
There's been this rivalry going on for years and no sooner was Jem in the house when she started to interfere with Faye's mind over Aaron.
karezza
22-10-2011, 09:57 AM
In Faye's message from home her mother said "say hello to Aaron". Jem is vile & weird.
I understand what you are getting at here, UkTurtle...Yes, I am sure there is definately an element of Jem trying to protect her sister. However, it is manifesting itself in more of a negative manner than a positive one. She is coming across as being over-bearing and as there seems to be a long standing history of sibling rivalry between them it is kinda blatently obvious that there is some underlying cause of their distent. Jealousy probably...that is usually the crux of the matter.
lisa12000
22-10-2011, 09:59 AM
Maybe their mum does think that already, remember Jem went in late so may know her mums opinion on him.
Its not what has been stated in interviews, and why say hi to him in Fayes letter there was no need to do that if she didnt approve; Whatever that may be, Jem should see that by interfering so much she is upsetting her sister, whether she approves or not is not the issue (i have older twin sisters who i would tell to get lost if they interfered as much as she does) she should be their if Faye needs advice, but mostly there if things do go wrong; Its three weeks to the final, they dont spend a lot of time together in the day, and cuddle at night so its not like its full on and she should know thatif theyre not suited then it will all fizzle out after the show finishes anyway; Its basically a holiday romance, and should be treated as such
karezza
22-10-2011, 10:00 AM
Jem should allow Faye to make up her own mind. Faye & Aaron won't know if they really like each other until they leave the house.
lisa12000
22-10-2011, 10:01 AM
I get the impression that Faye's family dont like Aaron at all, and I dont blame them... Jem has heard all the stuff Aaron has said about their 'relationship' and that he doesnt really seem to like her etc.. Im glad Jem stayed last night because shes the only HM left that can break that hidious relationship up
You do realise that Jem only saw the first week and a half of highlights when they werent together? She said she was away for more than 2 weeks before she went in and had only really had 24hrs to prepare to go in;
You do realise that Jem only saw the first week and a half of highlights when they werent together? She said she was away for more than 2 weeks before she went in and had only really had 24hrs to prepare to go in;
why would she go on a 2 week holiday while her sister is in big brother? :conf: she probably just said that so the HMs stopped asking her questions about how they look to the public.
Visage
22-10-2011, 10:06 AM
In Faye's message from home her mother said "say hello to Aaron".
Yes, good point.
crocs
22-10-2011, 10:13 AM
I understand what you are getting at here, UkTurtle...Yes, I am sure there is definately an element of Jem trying to protect her sister. However, it is manifesting itself in more of a negative manner than a positive one. She is coming across as being over-bearing and as there seems to be a long standing history of sibling rivalry between them it is kinda blatently obvious that there is some underlying cause of their distent. Jealousy probably...that is usually the crux of the matter.
I think this is point on. Sisterly jealousy doesn't have to have anything to do with how well Jemma is doing at the moment and whether she has a boyfriend or not. She has said that their family's life has been tough and Faye has had it easier. She holds a grudge on Faye for having it easier. However, usually as times go by families are better off, for example monetarily, so it might not have anything to do with Faye that she had it easier.
lisa12000
22-10-2011, 10:14 AM
why would she go on a 2 week holiday while her sister is in big brother? :conf: she probably just said that so the HMs stopped asking her questions about how they look to the public.
She was in America trying to sort out her wrestling career as they were on about a draft to WWE
Cherie
22-10-2011, 10:15 AM
Maybe their mum does think that already, remember Jem went in late so may know her mums opinion on him.
So clearly the rules of BB have changed dramatically as previously when new HMs went in they would be warned in no circumstances were they to reveal what the public thought of the HMs....
snookered
22-10-2011, 10:16 AM
If she was looking after her sister surely she'd want her to be happy?
In the present.
Faye's an adult dontchaknow Jem.
snookered
22-10-2011, 10:20 AM
Jem seems to have a chip on her shoulder.
snookered
22-10-2011, 10:22 AM
I wonder if she's jealous of the minor celebrity a Faye/Aaron relationship would carry on the outside.
Jordan.
22-10-2011, 10:30 AM
No you're wrong, Jem is just an evil poisionous bitch who wants to ruin Aaron and Fayes perfect realationship. GET HER OUT.
/sarcasm
Jesus.
22-10-2011, 10:30 AM
Jem seems to have a chip on her shoulder.
No wonder her skin is so greasy then.
The timings of her upping the Aaron hate to the week of the crypt just seems way too suspicious to me.
Previously she was implying that he did like her, but the last few days, she's just flipped that 180 degrees, and is basically saying that she's being played.
If you're looking out for your sibling, you advise them, you don't try and force their hand into dumping someone that they really like. If you're that sure it won't work, then you have to be there to help pick up the pieces when it goes wrong, don't keep poisoning the relationship so that you can then say "I told you so".
Loads of relationships don't make it very far, it doesn't automatically imply that all people are bad. Jem is a bitter old lady.
Pyramid*
22-10-2011, 10:35 AM
I think there is something quite strange about Jem and Faye's relationship.
Jem acts as though she knows it all about everything, including what Faye wants / knows what's best for her sister - and I've seen a fair amount of nagging from Jem no matter what the sujbect (Aaron, what she eats, how she acts, what she says etc). The same sister that she keeps banging on about 'wanting to get to know'. (She's had 19 years, what she was hoping to gain in a month, christ knows!)
Jem also came into the house knowing only too well how backstabbing, sly & stirring Anton was: yet when he and Jay re-entered the house, she was happy to take what Anton said as absolute - re Aaron's not defending her (Jem) when she was the topic of hms conversations.
She acted as though Aaron should have automatically 'stuck up' for what was being said about her (Jem) - yet she drips poison about him to Faye all the time and slags Aaron off in the diary room.
She's deliberately been drip feeding Faye 'half stories'.... putting out half a convo and leaving it in the air - but not actually confirming that Aaron has said / done what she starts saying in the convo.... because she CAN'T. she hides this by always saying, "I can only give my opinion Faye, it's up to you to chose what to do with that information" - yet it is only her opinion - not necessarily fact - yet she expects Faye to take her opinion exactly like that - otherwise she wouldn't get so 'aggressive' in relaying such info to her when Faye questions her.
she also said that she was going in to the house to 'sort out Jay'..... yet was all over him like a rash the minute she entered.
I think she's got some real serious resentment inside for Faye - whether because Faye is far prettier, has a nicer figure, had more growing up than she did.
the way she was crying last night and saying she's never really had friends - I think she is jealous of Faye and resents her - but struggles with the natural in built 'older sister must love and protect' thing going on.
She's never cracked her face in there, she moans, bitches, stirs things up, berates Faye more often than not.
She's a thoroughly unpleasant woman and I can understand why she has no real friends.
That's a great post, Mids :) and pretty much spot on imo.
Pyramid*
22-10-2011, 10:58 AM
That's a great post, Mids :) and pretty much spot on imo.
Good morning Suze! :wavey:
Ta muchly. :)
exoticrosebud
22-10-2011, 11:10 AM
Fayes a big girl....back off Jem...if shes being 'so called played' and she cant see it or wont see it then its her bad luck....if its genuine then good luck to them......if she can see it ...start playing the game back! Jem comes across like a frustrated head mistress and if she wanted to 'bond' with her sister wait till she comes out and spends some time with her the...in the meantime let the girl be!
Mumbles
22-10-2011, 11:10 AM
I would urge caution pretty much like she did the first couple of days but i would know that she isnt a baby and needs to make up her own mind and make her own mistakes and leave her to it and just be a shoulder to cry on if things go wrong; All this is doing is causing arguments between the sisters and a rift will grow especially if Fayes feelings are that strong
I find the hatred pouring from Jem quite disturbing, i genuinely think she wanted to go in there and spend all her time with Faye and shes jealous of the closeness she has with someone else, and found it a low blow when she said "mum will think hes a ****head" Shes trying to control Faye, but in the end all she will do is destroy any relationship she has with her
Spot on, my thoughts exactly.
crocs
22-10-2011, 11:12 AM
I agree with, Pyramid. It is very strange for someone to go to BB house to get closer to their sister. But I'm quite intrigued to see how Jemma would be like without Faye. Faye was partly different without Jemma (except for the really annoying side of her which is always there).
Mumbles
22-10-2011, 11:14 AM
Why would she be jealous, she has a boyfriend on the outside and clearly loves him.
I don't think she's jealous of Faye, I think she's actually jealous of Aaron. She went in the house hoping to spend time with her sister and found that Faye would rather spend time with someone else, and she hates it.
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