View Full Version : What must channel 5 do to improve bb next year?
Petershaw1984
22-10-2011, 10:11 AM
I have in many ways enjoyed bits of this series, however I feel that 5 have ruined bb in the final parts of the serie, so what could they do to improve the series?
Live feed. (even a couple of hours a day would do)
Wider mix of housemates
Longer series
Better editing
No world premiers
Have a few tasks where they win personal prizes such as £1000 for the winner of a task, holidays etc.
A proper summer bb.
And maybe even allow them to talk about noms?
Unlimited food budgets with shopping tasks for luxeries such as hair straighteners, hot water
I liked the task where they won prizes like a date with becca etc
Visage
22-10-2011, 10:18 AM
The main thing they need to do is listen to the fans.
-live feed (just to shut everyone up)
-better housemates (not just young attractive people)
-better pre-show spin off (bring back BBLB instead of OKTV)
-NO stupid movie premiers
-ALWAYS more than 2 people up for eviction
-Dont tell the HMs who got most votes (it changes nominations)
-Dont let HMs hear the crowd (although this is good sometimes, its good for them not to hear the reaction)
Jordan.
22-10-2011, 10:24 AM
- Live Feed
- A better website
- Better updates
- No random people going in and out
Kate!
22-10-2011, 10:28 AM
Live Feed.
No meddling with the nominations.
No newbies unless someone walks.
Wider age range.
No family members/boyfriends/girlfriends.
Things to keep from this year -
Allowed to discuss noms.
Announcing who got the most votes.
karezza
22-10-2011, 10:33 AM
No more manipulation - be impartial in the editing.
No more pointless housemates like Tom.
More intelligent housemates like Harry & Aaron.
Alex must be the last of the Big Brother morons.
billy123
22-10-2011, 10:35 AM
Live feed
Less miserable twats
Less media hungry knobheads
Stop the childish cbeebies style editing
- Live Feed
- NO discussing nominations. It should be completely against the rules.
- More communication with us (i.e. Brian doing what Davina used to do at the end of the eviction shows and announce an upcoming twist, and not just "that's it for tonight, join us again next week")
- Listen to the fans more, as it's us that are watching the show. Without us there'd be no show.
- More/better spin-off shows (i.e. the return of BBLB)
- Promote Alice Levine to host of BOTS and Emma to the main show
- Tone down the editting, less American style flashbacks and more content (although if we had the live feed it wouldn't matter)
Kate!
22-10-2011, 10:50 AM
- Live Feed
- NO discussing nominations. It should be completely against the rules.
- More communication with us (i.e. Brian doing what Davina used to do at the end of the eviction shows and announce an upcoming twist, and not just "that's it for tonight, join us again next week")
- Listen to the fans more, as it's us that are watching the show. Without us there'd be no show.
- More/better spin-off shows (i.e. the return of BBLB)
- Promote Alice Levine to host of BOTS and Emma to the main show
- Tone down the editting, less American style flashbacks and more content (although if we had the live feed it wouldn't matter)
this
exoticrosebud
22-10-2011, 11:02 AM
...explain to them that it is actually a GAME SHOW...and to stop whinging and whining when it dont go their way.!
BigBrotherfan4ever
22-10-2011, 11:17 AM
- Live Feed
- A better website
- Better updates
- No random people going in and out
Totally agree Jordan with all of them. Plus a few older HM's
Barf_andotherthings
22-10-2011, 11:24 AM
more actual content. It just seems to be a series of snippits. So they attend a movie premier and celebs enter the house- can we actually get to see what happened there instead of being thrown a few silly clips?
The editing/manipulation is just terrible.
waterhog
22-10-2011, 01:13 PM
select only people with a IQ above 10 % i do understand with need to have a vairety of people but nealy all of the ones are in there becase "they will be entertaining to watch" bored of jay now, there only so many times you can hear someone fart, alex is dim but she has not got a bad bone in her - we need normal people this time round not these fame seeking lot , rember glen, freddie, just people with morals that dont get off on how crude they can be and the farct that behavour is going to make them a superstar (well for 1 week lol).
Beastie
22-10-2011, 01:17 PM
- Bring back 24 7 LIVE FEED please.
- I have enjoyed this series. Better than BB11 and BB10 but next year I want more of a diverse bunch of housemates. A bit like BB9.
- NO family members etc going in.. So **** that Gem went in when we could have had an "unknown" girl going in.
- Want to see more footage of all the housemates. Share the editing equally. Not just turn it into a fauxmance show.
armand.kay
22-10-2011, 01:26 PM
They need the queen of vagina to go in ther :joker:
michael21
22-10-2011, 02:00 PM
live feed
lots of very sexy girls :dance:
They should have a Channel 5 +1
michael21
22-10-2011, 02:03 PM
They should have a Channel 5 +1
do you mean channel 6 :suspect:
InOne
22-10-2011, 02:10 PM
- Live Feed
- Better editing, it started off pretty good, but now all they seem to do is tell us what happened the night before of even weeks before.
- Alice as host at BOTS with Emma on sometimes
- No communication with the outside at all, no calls from home or anything until at least 3 weeks in.
- More stict on discussing noms and writing things on the wall.
- Better website
- Tell Marcus to tone it down
Mumbles
22-10-2011, 02:39 PM
Live Feed - selectable multi camera feeds so viewers can pick who and what they want to watch live. This should minimise the possibility of biased editing of the masin show and increase fairness from BB.
No contact with the outside world - including phone calls, videos, non-housemates entering the house, etc. I'd also include housemates getting to know vote results and hearing the cheers/boos of eviction night crowds. They should be totally cut off from the outside world.
No related housemates - including ex/current girlfriends/boyfriends. All the housemate should be strangers to each other on entering.
No secret tasks - they're too easily used to manipulate and artificially create situations in the house.
More openness - if there's a task that could effect nominations or evictions, the viewers need to be informed in advance before any big reveal to the housemates. It's the only way we can be sure there's no foul play from BB.
Bascially, BBs role should be minimised to that of rule enforcer, shopping task setter and protector. The entertainment should be allowed to come from genuine interactions between housemates, not from manipulation at the hands of biased produccers.
Given the above, better housemates would be required than we've seen for the last few series - there should be people who actually have something to say and are willing to say it, with stories to tell and not just a hunger for fame at all costs.
Edit: And get rid of the emotive music in the main show.
Bluerang1
22-10-2011, 02:54 PM
-Live Feed: so no more complaining of rigging etc
-Housemate variety: didn't mind them this year but we can see that they get boring after a while.
-BBLB. No OKTV. Useless I think, I don't watch it so I don't know. Emma on BBLB, crudeness doesn't suit her, and Alice on BBOTS. Or whatever.
-Yes, more than Two People up at a time.
-More twist, not with noms though. Secret House etc.
-Immunity task every week.
-BB should be tougher with rule break. Remove right to nominate or get an automatic nomination.
-Better advertising -_-
-No outside world contact except one message from family at some point.
-No outside tasks at all.
-Global openness. BBUK has, can you believe it, international fans! =o
-More fan interjection, like what should be next task etc.
-No to known relations or friends entering. Ruins things.
-Noms discussion should be privileged for select few who have earned it. Like the pod thing.
Got some ideas from above posters.
Petershaw1984
22-10-2011, 05:19 PM
Move it back to 9 o'clock every evening
Big brother bit on the side at 10
Then 1 -2 hour of live feed would make me happy
swinearefine
22-10-2011, 06:41 PM
Live Feed: Even if I couldn't watch it from America, it would eliminate a lot of biased editing.
Better Casts: Diversity in age, looks, etc. And less trashy people.
NO contact with the outside world: Don't let the housemates hear the crowd outside, don't announce the order of who's staying, no houseguests.
NO discussing nominations, ever.
Better spin offs: Axe BOTS and bring back BBLB, BBBM, DR Uncut, and Big Brain.
Better editing: Name tags and previously on/coming up are fine and helpful, but music is stupid.
dizzy bint
22-10-2011, 06:52 PM
Some live feed.
A broader age range of housemates.
Less bias in the main show and BBBOTS.
No one hour wait between shows on a Friday.
No contact whatsoever with the outside world.
Some pieces by psychologists, either a show or on BBBOTS.
Beastie
22-10-2011, 06:58 PM
I have liked it that they kept this series quite simple. Like not just chucking in newbies. Only put a newbie in if someone walks.
Also next series they should just be allowed to discuss nominations all the time. They do it this series. All of them have or the "favourites" have and they have not been punished for it.
But yeah it's been quite a good series. They have had a bit more luxury with alcohol and parties. Maybe not with the food but we need a few arguments to stir up in which they always do with the lack of food :hugesmile:
But yes.. next year.. a more diverse bunch of housemates please! No one from agencies!! :bored:
luminoussun
22-10-2011, 07:32 PM
LIVE FEED
4 contestants that are 30+ at least maybe a few 40+
Naked sundays..no need to explain that one :)
Bring head of house into show again but this time hoh is excempt from nominations.This will make it worth winning.Plus giving them treats and own luxury room.
Make food tasks more like the american version. split the house and make them compete with eachother..That way half the house is always pissed off and grumpy while they watch the other half living it up.
Stop all nomination talk!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Stop people coming into the house...cabin fever is a big factor in big brother and celebs coming in along with family ruins it.
for 4 weeks they do not nominate..they are all put up and the least popular get evicted so 4 bores go out the door before they are allowed to remove the characters.
boomoo
22-10-2011, 08:28 PM
-live feed (just to shut everyone up)
-better housemates (not just young attractive people)
-better pre-show spin off (bring back BBLB instead of OKTV)
-NO stupid movie premiers
-ALWAYS more than 2 people up for eviction
-Dont tell the HMs who got most votes (it changes nominations)
-Dont let HMs hear the crowd (although this is good sometimes, its good for them not to hear the reaction)
Really good points.
I would divide the women and men for two weeks and vote out one male and one female each week. Then put the house together.
This way there will be no males and females jumping on each other in the first week.
We need to get to know them first.
The idea that a romance makes you a winner has spoilt BB
Bollo
22-10-2011, 08:37 PM
Get rid of Brian, it would be cheaper and more entertaining if he was replaced by a plank of wood
Gizmo
22-10-2011, 08:54 PM
Live feed...but apart from that nothing it's been good this year.
I don't think there's anything wrong in having 30- HMs...just coz the mean age is younger it doesn't mean that you won't get entertaining viewing.
spitfire
22-10-2011, 08:58 PM
Stop showing ten mins of the previous week on every episode.
rsefitpro2011
22-10-2011, 09:27 PM
I have found this year's series quite interesting, I have liked how they have pretty much kept all the housemates the same, I have liked the age range within the house.
Channel 5 need to add Live Feed, I also feel they need to stop editing and let the show run its natural course, at the moment all we are seeing is what Channel 5 want us to see.
I think theirs much more going on in that house, than what we are being shown, perhaps Aaron as an example would come out in even a better light with the inclusion of live feed. Perhaps Alex is doing more than what we are being shown?
They just need to tweek the show and add certain things and I am sure it will be a hit!
BBfanUSA
22-10-2011, 10:50 PM
Live Feed
Discussing nominations works well in BB Africa (I think they are still allowed to since S4 The Revolution) so try it for one season
Try Emma as the host
Mumbles
24-10-2011, 12:10 PM
I think there should be a 2nd house from the beginning of the series with replacements for people who want to walk. The 2nd house should be part of the live feed but not get any tasks or do nominations or anything like that, just live there until called upon to replace a walker from the main house. Then, whenever anyone from the main house decides they want to leave, BB can kick them straight out the first time they come to the Diary Room and say they want out, no messing about, no sleeping on it, nothing - they come to the Diary Room and say "I want to leave" and BB can go "Fine, exit via the door to the left" and within an hour a new housemate can be in the main house. There could even be voting for which 2nd house resident should replace the walker, so viewers get a bit of a say in it. It would also mean you don't get new housemates who've watched the show and know more than the others about what's been going on.
live feed, minimal editing, better presenter, no outside world contact in any way shape or form (other than videos/letters from home)
Eviction shows need looking at too. They need to get rid of the platform and the huge stage, watching the housemates walk through the crowd was always a lot better
Raven
24-10-2011, 12:43 PM
24/7 Live feed (Obviously)
Full age range, rather than a bunch of kiddies like this one
Normal people rather than agency run media wannabe's
No thicko's
Keep vote to save (I think it helps keep interesting folks in over boring ones but doesn't prevent tactical voting... as shown by jem staying over anton)
Absolutely NO contact from the outside world... no 'message from home', no hearing crowd reaction, no informing the HM's who came first, no celebrity visits etc.
No new HM's unless someone walks or is removed from rule breaking...... threaten to walk in the DR... you are removed right there and then, no BB trying to persuaide you to stay, no 'sleep on it', just OK out you come! The first the other HM's know about it is when the replacement HM walks in!
Bring back the chickens :D and provide flour etc for HM's to make their own bread to supliment their budgets.
Individual food budgets...... then sit back and watch the arguments fly between those who put the effort in and got big budgets and the slackers who failed and are scraping by on basics.
Punishments for the whole house if the house is left like a pigsty
Nomination discussion possible but restricted..... like the pod thing, so other HM's can know who is in there and the only reason to be in there is to discuss nominations.
Live feed is top of my list - no question
People who can hold an intelligent and interesting conversation
HMs who say they want to leave should be shown the door and not brought onto spin-off programmes
Rule breakers should be properly punished.
Only singles
alex_front2
24-10-2011, 01:52 PM
C5 needs to
1) Stop the soap opera aspect to BB which began in earnest last year on C4 with the whole Josie and John James saga as it means a few HM get all the air time <tedious if it's not your fav> and prevents us seeing others. C5 needs to revert back to showing as much as possible of what happens in a day even if its a one-off and not part of a story eg showing HMs having a good time
2) Stop trying to favour certain HM over others. It's blatently obvious that they like Jay and if that's the case, why not have a house full of Jay types so that they'll get a winner they want and stop trying to make <unfavoured> but popular Housemates like Aaron look bad in contrast
3) No showbiz or celebs in house eg Pamela and Jordan. It's about ordinary people, CBB is for celebs
4) Tell us about twists and surprises in advance eg the Ghost Crypt which went to Jay and Anton. Would this have happened if Tom and Aaron were up, then? Doubt it
5) Better tasks. Last year was amazing especially the 'Ignore the obvious'. This years tasks have been utter bilge. Even the YES/ NO task was quite average
6) Call a non-specified HM to come to the diary room to do a task like they used to until BB7 rather than saying 'Will X come to the DR' as it looks like it's trying to get certain HMs extra air time and contrive certain situations. Why did Faye and Jem have to do the burping task. Why did have to be burping to Aaron? Why has Alex had alot of secret tasks? Can't she be entertaining without BB's help? :xyxwave::spin: Aaron has had ZERO secret tasks. In BB6 when BB wanted a RANDOM HM to come to the DR on opening night to be 'unlucky 13' it was Makosi. The big characters always step up to the plate on this, don't contrive it. If they did that now they'd say 'Will Jay come to the DR'. It's pathetic.
7) No 'previously' re-caps. If people want a re-cap then they can go and look at old episodes and clips on line. Stop pandering to the under 25-market. Or they can always do an extended BB edition for an 1h and 30 mins with recaps
8) Make BBOTs mroe neutual. Before I was an Aaron supporter I was 100% in Mark camp and even back then I noticed an Anti-Aaron and pro-Jay stance. Let us decide who to like
9) Pick a greater range of HMs, what about people from different cultures etc. One thing about BB5 and BB10 was the diversity eg transgendered Portuguese HMs, Sree, gay housemates, Siavash. Brilliant and it added to the mix. Loved the Marco gay v Ahmed Muslim stand-off in BB5.
10) Stop trying to depict Hms as 1-dimensional. Aaron has a lot of fun and high-jinx as we see on Twitter updates and on FB website but this never makes it onto HL as it doesn't fit in with BB's new dumb-down narrative as portraying Aaron as a misery guts who is introspective with Faye.
11) Stop covering up for vile behaviour. If HMs act unacceptably eg pooing in freezer or making racist comments this must be reflected in the show.
12) Stop changing the rules if the wrong HMs succeeds eg Aaron winning face peg, Alex winning the rowing and therefore it stops being a team task (as Aaron is on her team)
13) Stop keeping the DR closed to certain HM. I've noticed Tom, Aaron and Aden always had to wait to get into DR whilst Jay, Anton and Alex always seem to have the door open immediately and walk straight in.
14) BRING BACK LIVE FEED
rogerb
24-10-2011, 03:01 PM
5 star hasnothing on it but cheap ads most of the time, surely it could be used for a few hours of live feed.
i think they would get more for the advertising then.
alex_front2
24-10-2011, 03:04 PM
5 star hasnothing on it but cheap ads most of the time, surely it could be used for a few hours of live feed.
i think they would get more for the advertising then.
Exactly, good suggestion. 5* just has repeats of shows such as 'Britain's sexiest dog trainer', 'Holiday Traffic Police' and repeats of Remington Steel. It could be easily used for wall to wall live feed.
Jarrod
24-10-2011, 03:11 PM
Live Feed: After the controversy and arguments made by fans and the channel, if they don't bring it back I Think it will be the worst decision they've ever made. Even if it's just for a few hours during the day and night.
Eye Design: Re-Design. Or go back to the old template
Website Design: They need more things on the website. Remember the website Channel 4 had. Clips everyday (Even WITH Live Feed), Competitions, exclusives. They don't even have Housemate profiles..
Longer Series: Maybe the length of Big Brother 11
Time slot: Channel 5 need a permanent time slot. 9pm or 10pm.
Spin-Off Shows: Big Brother's Little Brother needs to come back. BBBOTS is ok but it's on to late sometimes.
Twists: No boring twists. Or unexpected
Fan Involvment:They need to get fans more involved in the show. Less favouritism over certain Housemates
Vote to EVICT: This needs to return.
Kazakh
24-10-2011, 04:51 PM
On the issue of "more intelligent HMs" I can assure you that is the last thing Endemol want in there.
Zebidee
24-10-2011, 04:51 PM
Live feed
Tourmaline
24-10-2011, 05:07 PM
Sack the whole production team!!!!
Stop interfering with nominations/nomination results.
Stop trying to come up with good twists cos lets face it they are all ****.
Bring back LIVE FEED.
Don't put any hms relatives or partners in.
crocs
24-10-2011, 07:48 PM
live feed, at least for a couple of hours a day
no outside contact at all, no letters, no phone calls, no visitors, no nothing
no "previously" bits
no new housemates
plain nominations each week (the only thing that can be tampered with in that is that housemates nominate, but BB still puts everybody up)
older housemates in as well, not all from the same age group, similar body type or similar fame hungry type
Oh yes, I almost forgot. In the editing, I want the early days of editing back and at times I want to hear proper conversations. And l want to see longer tasks as well.
On the issue of "more intelligent HMs" I can assure you that is the last thing Endemol want in there.
I don't want intelligent housemates as such (which to me is people like Carol Vorderman) but some housemates that are eccentric but not in an overt way, have depth and a bit of life experience wouldn't go a miss. The kind of people I mean is like Lisa from BB9, completely off her head and not all there, but great telly
If they're all thick, all hopping in and out of each others beds and in there for one thing, the deals afterwards, then it will be a disaster. Just have to look at this very series to see that. I got into it about 2-3 weeks ago and it was really good, I'd say to BB5-7 levels but for me it has become very stale very quickly because the housemates are all one dimensional.
Brother Leon
24-10-2011, 08:35 PM
This show had so much potential but anyone half entertaining got voted out by the public.
Marsh.
24-10-2011, 08:56 PM
The fact that the last couple of years this discussion has been made dozens of times every series shows that no "improving" is going to be done and the show has well and truly had its time.
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