Jem... nasty piece of work?

[westiebabe]

What a nasty piece of work Jem appears to be. I think this whole episode of being in BB house is less about the experience, and more about the serious issues of jealousy she harbours about her sister. I am not a fan of Faye at all, but feel Jem is determined to spoil any happiness or enjoyment Faye may have - in the house or not! Dearie me...

[Babschap]

What a nasty piece of work Jem appears to be. I think this whole episode of being in BB house is less about the experience, and more about the serious issues of jealousy she harbours about her sister. I am not a fan of Faye at all, but feel Jem is determined to spoil any happiness or enjoyment Faye may have - in the house or not! Dearie me...

I had the same thought, poor Faye, 20 years old and her sister is emotionally blackmailing her with " mummy will be upset about you and Aaron," or about her smoking. Jem needs to go.

[Pyramid*]

Couldnt' agree more.

She's spiteful, nasty, self centred, dogmatic and completely resents Faye - in just about everything as far as I can see - from her as a person, to what she does, and which who.

I think Jem is a pretty despicable woman. No wonder she has no friends. !!

[westiebabe]

The argument she uses to manipulate and undermine Faye..."mummy wouldn't like what she is seeing" is food for thought.

Memo to Jem and Faye's parents: Worry less about Faye making a pratt of herself on BB.....worry a great deal more about her sister. Serious problems or what!!

[Josy]

I wish one of them would just hurry up and leave, I don't even care which one.

[Pyramid*]

I wish jem would **** ..... I thought Faye was bad, but geezo... having seen Jem, no wonder faye wanted away for a couple of weeks from her.

[Jords]

Couldnt' agree more.

She's spiteful, nasty, self centred, dogmatic and completely resents Faye - in just about everything as far as I can see - from her as a person, to what she does, and which who.

I think Jem is a pretty despicable woman. No wonder she has no friends. !!

You are blowing what has happened well out of proportion!

Jem and Faye clearly have a lot of sibling love for each other. Why would Jem be jelous? She has a boyfriend of her own, has a more successful career...

They have been brought up very differerntly and think very differently in result to it. Its just a matter of disagreeing a lot rather than having all those negative personality traits. But they still try their best to look out for each other.

Jem is obviously more serious more often than Faye.

[SocietyIsRuined]

If I had her as my sister then I wouldn't need an enemy. Horrible woman.

[BJ]

I wish one of them would just hurry up and leave, I don't even care which one.

I wish they'd both go. Faye is so needy and Jem is a vile spiteful person.

It's the Rex scenario all over again.

[Pyramid*]

You are blowing what has happened well out of proportion!

Jem and Faye clearly have a lot of sibling love for each other. Why would Jem be jelous? She has a boyfriend of her own, has a more successful career...

They have been brought up very differerntly and think very differently in result to it. Its just a matter of disagreeing a lot rather than having all those negative personality traits. But they still try their best to look out for each other.

Jem is obviously more serious more often than Faye.

I'm blowing nothing out of proportion. I'm commenting on what I see, and I can tell you now, there is something seriously wrong with Jem in the manner in which she tries to control and continually berate Faye.

[Jords]

I'm blowing nothing out of proportion. I'm commenting on what I see, and I can tell you now, there is something seriously wrong with Jem in the manner in which she tries to control and continually berate Faye.

Its clearly just the 'Big sister looking out for little sister, little sister thinks she knows what she is doing' effect.

I think Jem should butt out a bit, but its really not that surprising whats going on!

[Pyramid*]

Its clearly just the 'Big sister looking out for little sister, little sister thinks she knows what she is doing' effect.

I think Jem should butt out a bit, but its really not that surprising whats going on!


I couldn't disgree more Jords. Jem is controlling, manipulating, using emotional blackmail, and clearly resents her far prettier, far more popular sister. that's very much my take on it, and nothing will steer me from thinking otherwise.

[westiebabe]

You have your opinion - I have mine. Why is it that Jem constantly criticises and Faye always tries to placate? Why does she always use the adage.."I know what Mummy and Daddy are thinking...or.. I am always having to pick up the pieces after you"?
She would be better trying to enjoy her OWN experience, but then...(excuse me if I am cynical)..this is not about BBhouse, but about sibling rivalry in extremis! God help her if her machinations backfire...calling all psychologists.....get there quick!!!!!

[Rustic bauble]

Jem is totally jealous of Faye....I feel for Faye cos she so does not want to let her sister down an obviously loves her.....but Jem has a lot of issues. Jem needs to stop being selfish. Maybe its the big sister syndrome that she feels she should be the one with all the attention.
Faye is clearly the more attractive and probably has more male attention....that sounds cruel but maybe its true.
Jemma should never have gone into the BB house knowing her sister was in there...it was always going to take away her thunder... however Jem is so selfish she didnt give that a second thought...she has steamed in there dictating to Faye and completely undermining everything she does to choice of company she keeps down to smoking the odd cigarette...let her be.
Then to top it all despite the valant support she had she still wants to go....

I hope to god she goes within the next 24hrs....or be up and she will inevitably go on friday.

[Santa's NaughtiNess]

I'm back on this forum. I just left Digital Spy. I feel like crap!:bawling:

[joeysteele]

I wouldn't like to have a Sister like Jemma. She is too controlling, can see why Faye is the way she is partly because of her older Sister.
Everytime though that things are looking right between Fay and Aaron and they are happy,Jemma jumps in to bring her down, that is not what good Sisters do and it's not looking out for your Sister either.

[Santa's NaughtiNess]

I wouldn't like to have a Sister like Jemma. She is too controlling, can see why Faye is the way she is partly because of her older Sister.
Everytime though that things are looking right between Fay and Aaron and they are happy,Jemma jumps in to bring her down, that is not what good Sisters do and it's not looking out for your Sister either.
Big Brother sent Jem to the House to break Aaron and Faye up.:bored:

[Raven]

Jem is controlling, manipulating, using emotional blackmail,

Funny, from here it looks like that is the very thing she is trying to protect faye from.... from Aaron controlling, manipulating, using emotional blackmail and trying to cause a rift between faye and her sister.

Remember it was jem who tried to talk and clear their differences, it was aaron who point blank refused to discuss things like an adult, which was obviously going to cause problems in such close confined conditions... as he well knew.

[joeysteele]

Big Brother sent Jem to the House to break Aaron and Faye up.:bored:

I agree and nice to see you back too.

[chid646]

Faye and Jem are so alike - Faye manipulation of Aaron with the "you're scaring me now" and with the on again and off again relationship - it's exactly like what Jem is doing with Faye down to the I'm leaving, I'm not leaving the house. Growing up in that family seems to have left a similar scar on both of them

[luminoussun]

haha should of got rid of her when you had the chance :)

[In the Drunk Tank]

Actually felt sorry for Faye tonight, Jem was a bit out of order

[waterhog]

seen as its fay all i can say is oh dear lol

[rk3388]

she made a mistake but theres no need to be so harsh :O
I feel quite bad for her sometimes

[Angus]

Funny, from here it looks like that is the very thing she is trying to protect faye from.... from Aaron controlling, manipulating, using emotional blackmail and trying to cause a rift between faye and her sister.

Remember it was jem who tried to talk and clear their differences, it was aaron who point blank refused to discuss things like an adult, which was obviously going to cause problems in such close confined conditions... as he well knew.

Jem had no intention of "trying to talk and clear their differences". She was out for more air time which would show her berating and demeaning Aaron, for what exactly? Being good enough to put up with her vile, manipulative, nasty little sister that's what. For making sure there was a 5 way eviction the week Faye was up to give her the best chance of survival, that's what.

Who the hell does she think she is? She has absolutely NO right to butt into a private relationship between two grown up consenting adults. Jealous mare. She is determined to destroy what little chance Faye had of progressing in the house.

I just wish to goodness Aaron would get rid of the emotionally immature and snidey Faye, and very glad he told Jemma where to go. No wonder Jemma was boohooing and threatening to leave - Aaron wouldn't play ball in her game plan to use Aaron for a story line, so now she resorts to threatening and manipulating the sister she says she loves. Yeah right. With a sister like Jemma no-one needs enemies.

[Cherry Christmas]

The really scary part is when Jem brings her Mum, Dad, friends, family, and the neigbour dog into in, and how DISAPPOINTED they all are (especially the dog)...WTF

In Fayes letter from home, her Mum said and I quote "say hello to Aaron for us", would you say that if you totally DISAPPROVED of the relationship...Jem is looking for airtime and trying to bring Faye and Aaron down.

[The Human Santapede]

She's not all bad, she stepped down for Alex in that task despite the fact she probably could have gone on for a lot longer.

[Cherry Christmas]

She's not all bad, she stepped down for Alex in that task despite the fact she probably could have gone on for a lot longer.


I guarantee you she would not have stepped off if Faye was still rowing...:nono::nono:

[The Human Santapede]

I guarantee you she would not have stepped off if Faye was still rowing...:nono::nono:

That's sibling rivalry, very different. But everyone makes out as if she is some monster, she isn't that bad.

[Jackie]

She is especially when she said shes walking and tried emotional balckmail on Faye

[exoticrosebud]

..regarding the ....mommy wouldnt like it.........do these people not ever watch any of the shows and know what goes on in them.....???

[Cherry Christmas]

That's sibling rivalry, very different. But everyone makes out as if she is some monster, she isn't that bad.



So on the one hand we have sibling rivaly, on the other her so called "protection" of Faye, given she is the MUCH older sister, letting Faye win a task shouldnt have been too much for her should it? She let Alex win as she knows she is popular on the outside and the public would warm to her for letting her win....:devil:

[Gravedigger]

I'm inclined to think Jem does not have Faye's interests as her priority.

Apart from anything else, when she arrived in the house, mention was made of the fact that she and Faye had not always been close and I got the impression that they'd had quite a big falling out at some point, beyond the usual 'sibling rivalry'.

In last night's show, her reasons for leaving seemed to veer from 'doing it for Faye' to 'doing it to make herself happy' and back and forth depending upon what Faye was saying at that moment. There did not seem to be much consistency or truth coming from her.

It's also unfortunate that her overall manner is a bit hard and no-nonsense. I appreciate that her life experience may have influenced this but it doesn't help to endear her to the viewers, in my opinion.

Finally, her attitude towards Aaron seems to be based more on how it will affect her than it will Faye. When she entered the house, she tried to make out she had a mainly impartial attitude and just wanted to make sure her sister was being treated properly but as time has gone on it seems she has a more deep-rooted agenda.

There wasn't much she had seen from watching the show to give her some great insight into 'the real Aaron', as all we'd seen was his audition tape (as unrealistic a portrayal of a HM as they ever are) and someone being a bit confused as to what was going on with a girl he'd just met on a reality show. Initially, she seemed to agree with the anti-Anton perception but changed that, not I believe because of some great revelation in the house, but because of her own interests.

[ibkaz]

Take the cameras out of the equation, and they are probably behaving exactly how they would on the outside. Their mother is probably not surprised by the arguments. It was very wrong to throw 'mum would be disappointed' at Faye.

Faye seems to be the one always trying to make amends. It seems to me that Jem is jealous of Faye yet Faye actually looks up to Jem.

[Ammi]

I don't think Jem's a 'nasty piece of work'..I think she genuinly thinks she knows what's best for Faye and can't accept that if Faye is going to make any 'mistakes', she's perfectly entitled to do that and live her life the way she pleases...whether Jem thinks it's right or not..
I also think Jem's too serious..I don't think she knows how to lighten up..maybe that's to do with her disciplined physical routine

[ChristmasNeeve]

She's not all bad, she stepped down for Alex in that task despite the fact she probably could have gone on for a lot longer.

Or maybe she just had enough and wanted to quit but acted like she was doing a good deed for Alex to save face? I think saying that s**t to Alex was quite patronizing and basically saying I could win if I wanted to but I'm going to let you win cos I'm such a nice person.

[joeysteele]

I don't think Jem's a 'nasty piece of work'..I think she genuinly thinks she knows what's best for Faye and can't accept that if Faye is going to make any 'mistakes', she's perfectly entitled to do that and live her life the way she pleases...whether Jem thinks it's right or not..
I also think Jem's too serious..I don't think she knows how to lighten up..maybe that's to do with her disciplined physical routine

True. that all makes a lot of sense.Well said Ammi.

[karezza]

She's not all bad, she stepped down for Alex in that task despite the fact she probably could have gone on for a lot longer.

She is trying to win favour with Alex & the public.

[dyfed]

I guarantee you she would not have stepped off if Faye was still rowing...:nono::nono:
So right,I think Jem is spoiling Faye's time in BB,I would tell Jem to walk and to close the door on her way out..............Jem thinks the puplic like her,she doesnt get it....she was kept in because so many wanted Anton or Jay out.

[kistar]

She does wear funky hats though and I love the hoody with ears on that has little paws for your hands .

[fruit_cake]

Jem's frosted flake dance was really funny. That was one of my favourite part of the series so far

[tweetypiebabe1]

Here's my take on it that I posted in another thread:

I kind of agree. I understand where Jem is coming from but she's making Faye miserable and sending her on the emotional mind ******* she went during the second or third week but without the crying.

There is jealousy, there will always be jealousy but jealousy comes in many different shapes and forms and it's not necessarily a bad thing. They've both said, their mother included, that they've had quite a rough history and Jem has said that Faye grew up more privileged then she did. There's also a lot of competition between the two and, especially when it comes to wrestling, I just think it's a classic case of younger sister looking up to older sister and trying to emulate her in an effort to become closer with her and forge a better relationship. Faye said from the beginning that her and Jem aren't close, but she wants to have that kind of sisterly relationship where they can speak with each other and depend on each other, be best friends of sorts and Jem has said she wasn't sure if Faye would embrace her or hit her, but she loves her and she appreciates the way Faye has stepped up to care for her in the house.

This Aaron situation is causing unnecessary drama that, when it boils down to it, probably isn't even about Aaron in the first place. Probably just bringing up old feelings about old things. It's ok for your sister to want to protect, especially given you past history but Faye is stuck between a rock and a hard place. She either has to take Jem's word or Aaron's word because at the moment, there's no other way she can determine what's true and what's false.

[kistar]

She is of course a girl and we are all a bit wierd to be honest , I often surprise myself with what I think and say.

[Kazanne]

I'm back on this forum. I just left Digital Spy. I feel like crap!:bawling:

Why did you leave DS:joker::joker::joker:great to have you on here anyway,their loss our gain

[Livia]

She should butt out of her sister's life. She had a proper cheek trying to "have a word" with Aaron, her sister's an adult (believe it or not) and Jem has no right to stick her beak in.

And all that stuff about how upset and disappointed Faye's Mother and all their family and friends would be in her... bitchy - but not even clever-bitchy... just spiteful, amateur bitchy. No wonder there's been a rift between them. Jem seemed nice giving up the rowing task for Alex, but personally I think she wasn't going to win anyway. She isn't nearly as fit as she thinks she is but she made a big thing about looking magnanimous and stepping aside for Alex.

[ChristmasNeeve]

She should butt out of her sister's life. She had a proper cheek trying to "have a word" with Aaron, her sister's an adult (believe it or not) and Jem has no right to stick her beak in.

And all that stuff about how upset and disappointed Faye's Mother and all their family and friends would be in her... bitchy - but not even clever-bitchy... just spiteful, amateur bitchy. No wonder there's been a rift between them. Jem seemed nice giving up the rowing task for Alex, but personally I think she wasn't going to win anyway. She isn't nearly as fit as she thinks she is but she made a big thing about looking magnanimous and stepping aside for Alex.

Yeah, exactly.

Re. her opinion on Aaron, she has her opinion on the situation and that's fair enough, she's made Faye aware of what she thinks and now she needs to leave her decide for herself. Also, she keeps implying that she knows something from the outside about Aaron, like what? If anything as a viewer Faye was the one who's been dishonest with Aaron, what with nominating him 3 times and all :bored:

[Livia]

Yeah, exactly.

Re. her opinion on Aaron, she has her opinion on the situation and that's fair enough, she's made Faye aware of what she thinks and now she needs to leave her decide for herself. Also, she keeps implying that she knows something from the outside about Aaron, like what? If anything as a viewer Faye was the one who's been dishonest with Aaron, what with nominating him 3 times and all :bored:

Has she nominated him three times? I thought it was just once... Wow... How'd I miss that?!

I thought it was quite cynical last night, when after antagonising Faye the whole evening and trying to make her feel guilty about the Aaron thing spoiling Jemma's time in the house, Jem only hugged Faye when she got into bed with her. It was like she'd separated her from Aaron and that was her little agenda fulfilled.

[ChristmasNeeve]

Has she nominated him three times? I thought it was just once... Wow... How'd I miss that?!

I thought it was quite cynical last night, when after antagonising Faye the whole evening and trying to make her feel guilty about the Aaron thing spoiling Jemma's time in the house, Jem only hugged Faye when she got into bed with her. It was like she'd separated her from Aaron and that was her little agenda fulfilled.

Yeah, the first time was before she got together with Aaron so that can be forgiven but she nominated him twice after that, two weeks in a row :bored:

And yeah I noticed that too Livia, I hope she either walks or is evicted next, she's messing with her sisters head so much more than Aaron is, that's for sure.