How do Aaron fans reconcile Aaron's VT and audition tapes with what's in the house?

[vesavius]

Is it by just accepting that the bumbling nerd persona is 100% constructed and designed to fool others into believing he is something that he obviously isn't?

Or do you actually believe he is this Hugh Grant type of nervous gent he pretends to be?

Not a flame, genuinly interested in how people rationalise the Aaron that he is pretending to be with the real one that obviously lies underneath.

[Josy]

I don't think he is pretending to be anything, and there was also nothing on his VT to prove that he was anything different to the way he's been in the house since day 1.

[alex_front2]

I reconcile by the fact he told us in his launch night VT that he's bit of a game player and he mentioned this in week 1 - hence his boos when he entered the house. Aaron's always been careful in what he says. On about day 9 Faye (who I suspect fancied him back then) question him about dating and he did say he has no problem getting women, he just doesn't do one night stands.

Cleverly he's not gone on and on about his game playing to the viewers so the game player tag went to Anton. If Aaron's caught game playing more obviously we can't say 'Oh look the mask has slipped' as he told us he wasn't going to be 100% truthful in first place. Good game play from him.

[Cherry Christmas]

I believe he is playing an excellent game, and he is mixing it up and making a good show....i have said it before and I will say it again. Im sick of FENCE SITTERS winning BB simply by going in and being nice to everyone, then coming out and never seeing any of their fellow HMs ever again....

[crocs]

In the same way we reconcile other housemates' VTs. The rest are not exactly like their VTs. I think the VTs should be disregarded at all times because they don't reflect the truth.

[vesavius]

I don't think he is pretending to be anything

Except the people that are living with him seem to think differently.

Cover blown tbh.

I guess by your answer you fall more into the "Or do you actually believe he is this Hugh Grant type of nervous gent he pretends to be?" category.

[Tourmaline]

I love easy questions me :blush:

Answer: The exact same way we reconcile all other audition tapes which are just made to set them apart from the other 1000s of entries. What we see in the BB House is the REAL person because there's no way they can keep up a false persona for any great length of time :hugesmile:

[vesavius]

What we see in the BB House is the REAL person because there's no way they can keep up a false persona for any great length of time :hugesmile:

Actually, it's possible to maintain false appearences and constructed personalities all your life, let alone the time in that house.

It's actually very common.

[Samuel.]

Aaron's pretty much exactly like he is in his VT.

[vesavius]

Aaron's pretty much exactly like he is in his VT.

Erm... he really wasn't.

[Vicky.]

I dont actually think his VT was much different from how he has been in the house. Maybe a little more arrogant, but you have to sell yourself to get in. The only part that was questionable really was the ladies man part, but you can be a ladies man without being a *****.

Infact I would say he's one of the few who has actually remained pretty true to their VT :laugh:

[Tourmaline]

Actually, it's possible to maintain false appearences and constructed personalities all your life, let alone the time in that house.

It's actually very common.

Then the false appearance and the constructed personality becomes integrated into who we actually are so therefore it is REAL

[alex_front2]

Aaron's pretty much exactly like he is in his VT.

No, Aaron was very very confident on his VT and no way near as geeky or camp as he's in the house. It's the same with his launch night intro. He didn't seem camp or geeky in that and i was shocked at how camp he was when he entered the house.

For the first 2-5 days Aaron went into the DR and told us about his 'game' but he gave up after that when he went for love action with Faye

[In the Drunk Tank]

I think he was the most different in his VT out of the four of them that had theirs shown but it still wasn't that dissimilar to how he is in there

[LivT]

In the same way we reconcile other housemates' VTs. The rest are not exactly like their VTs. I think the VTs should be disregarded at all times because they don't reflect the truth.

I agree with Crocs sentiments. The VT's don't serve a purpose other than a means to an end. It is a selling point, and like any advertisement, it doesn't always do what it says on the packet!

[Samuel.]

-kxZmm3nIKE

1. People think he's arrogant when they first meet him? Tick.
2. Doesn't really want to get involved with people until he's had a chance to judge them and think it's worth talking to them? Tick.
3. Never had a problem getting a girlfriend? Tick.
4. Wants to always get his way, believes he has the best ideas 9 times out 10, right 10 times out of 10? Tick.
5. Hundreds of things that could upset him in the house? Tick.
6. Have a big impact in the house? Tick.
7. Some people will like him, some won't, majority will love him? (assuming he meant outside of the house) Tick.
8. Not there to be a piece of wallpaper in the background? Tick.

Even if he came across more confident, everything he said was spot on.

[vesavius]

Then the false appearance and the constructed personality becomes integrated into who we actually are so therefore it is REAL

No Tour, thats not right at all. It is false, by definition.

The fact that Aaron has obviously adopted the bumbling Hugh Grant nervous gent persona to go into that house with, the one so at odds with the man who auditioned and the man who plays the house and public with such confidence, is obviously being furiously rationalised by his supporters here, but the fact remains the man we are seeing is obviously not the man that exists in the real world.

But then he has tried to get in 4 times and studied this game, so I guess he knows which personality type the public will best respond to.

[Kazanne]

-kxZmm3nIKE

1. People think he's arrogant when they first meet him? Tick.
2. Doesn't really want to get involved with people until he's had a chance to judge them and think it's worth talking to them? Tick.
3. Never had a problem getting a girlfriend? Tick.
4. Wants to always get his way, believes he has the best ideas 9 times out 10, right 10 times out of 10? Tick.
5. Hundreds of things that could upset him in the house? Tick.
6. Have a big impact in the house? Tick.
7. Some people will like him, some won't, majority will love him? (assuming he meant outside of the house) Tick.
8. Not there to be a piece of wallpaper in the background? Tick.

Even if he came across more confident, everything he said was spot on.

Yes agree,Faye's needs to be looked at,hers was much worse!:xyxwave:

[vesavius]

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1. People think he's arrogant when they first meet him? Tick.
2. Doesn't really want to get involved with people until he's had a chance to judge them and think it's worth talking to them? Tick.
3. Never had a problem getting a girlfriend? Tick.
4. Wants to always get his way, believes he has the best ideas 9 times out 10, right 10 times out of 10? Tick.
5. Hundreds of things that could upset him in the house? Tick.
6. Have a big impact in the house? Tick.
7. Some people will like him, some won't, majority will love him? (assuming he meant outside of the house) Tick.
8. Not there to be a piece of wallpaper in the background? Tick.

Even if he came across more confident, everything he said was spot on.

I don't disagree with any of this, and I conceed willingly that he is a skilled games player, that's not what I am asking.

I am asking how you reconcile the confident alpha (because alphas are not always muscle bound bufoons in society, in fact they mostly aren't) in those tapes with the bumbling Hugh Grant gent he has pretended.

[Tourmaline]

No Tour, thats not right at all. It is false, by definition.

The fact that Aaron has obviously adopted the bumbling Hugh Grant nervous gent persona to go into that house with, the one so at odds with the man who auditioned and the man who plays the house and public with such confidence, is obviously being furiously rationalised by his supporters here, but the fact remains the man we are seeing is obviously not the man that exists in the real world.

But then he has tried to get in 4 times and studied this game, so I guess he knows which personality type the public will best respond to.

Vesavius.....the audition tapes are a one minute long snapshot designed purely to sell themselves as a means of getting into the house....thats all. Weigh that one minute against all the hundreds of hours he has spent in there.

[Vicky.]

I am asking how you reconcile the confident alpha (because alphas are not always muscle bound bufoons in society, in fact they mostly aren't) in those tapes with the bumbling Hugh Grant gent he has pretended.

Because a minute of selling yourself(Harry I think it was..pointed out that the snippet they showed was after a 'describe yourself in 60 seconds' question)...is the same as hours and hours of real life footage?

Its a bit like a job interview. You do your best to get the job, even if this means acting a bit more like how you think they want you to act, than yourself.

[vesavius]

Vesavius.....the audition tapes are a one minute long snapshot designed purely to sell themselves as a means of getting into the house....thats all. Weigh that one minute against all the hundreds of hours he has spent in there.

So you reconcile it by denial that the Aaron you don't like is the false one, and the one you do like is the true one?


And, like I say, it IS more then possible (and actually very common) to live under a constructed false personality for extended periods, especially when that personality is built around regularly removing yourself from the social group. The popular thought that no one can do this is pretty much a myth.

[Tourmaline]

So you reconcile it by denial that the Aaron you don't like is the false one, and the one you do like is the true one?


And, like I say, it IS more then possible (and actually very common) to live under a constructed false personality for extended periods, especially when that personality is built around regularly removing yourself from the social group. The popular thought that no one can do this is pretty much a myth.

I like Aaron.....I didn't find his VT to be that dissimilar to who he is in the house. Who said anything about disliking the "false" one? You are the one that's decided the REAL Aaron is the one in his VT when IMO they are both the same :conf:

[vesavius]

I like Aaron.....I didn't find his VT to be that dissimilar to who he is in the house. Who said anything about disliking the "false" one? You are the one that's decided the REAL Aaron is the one in his VT when IMO they are both the same :conf:


I guess then you also fall into the "Or do you actually believe he is this Hugh Grant type of nervous gent he pretends to be?" category

[Tourmaline]

I guess then you also fall into the "Or do you actually believe he is this Hugh Grant type of nervous gent he pretends to be?" category

Except that I don't like Hugh Grant and never have :hugesmile:

[Novo]

-kxZmm3nIKE

1. People think he's arrogant when they first meet him? Tick.
2. Doesn't really want to get involved with people until he's had a chance to judge them and think it's worth talking to them? Tick.
3. Never had a problem getting a girlfriend? Tick.
4. Wants to always get his way, believes he has the best ideas 9 times out 10, right 10 times out of 10? Tick.
5. Hundreds of things that could upset him in the house? Tick.
6. Have a big impact in the house? Tick.
7. Some people will like him, some won't, majority will love him? (assuming he meant outside of the house) Tick.
8. Not there to be a piece of wallpaper in the background? Tick.

Even if he came across more confident, everything he said was spot on.

Great post

[mr rochester]

Shaaron is highly intelligent and pretty much keeps his principles high in the house. The big thing that lets him down (thus giving Harry the edge) is that he is an Amazing Sulk - however, he is exactly the same in the house as he is in the V.T.

He is playing the game exceedingly well - and everyone who goes in there IS playing a game. I have never understood why some people get upset and label Housemates game players - nor have I ever understood the staunch and proud claims 'I have been myself' - who else could they be?

Imagine someone going in saying 'I am not going to be myself I am going to be Winston Churchill and tomorrow I am going to give Robbie Williams a go' - how silly would that be?

I hope Shaaron and Harry (not Tom or D***head) are up as the final 2. Otherwise Channel 5 will have won a pyrrhic victory and no-one will watch next year.

[qwertyell]

I don't even know why people seem to think he's "outed" himself as a ladies man on his VT.

Here he is talking about pulling with Faye on day 11.

http://youtu.be/Nfbn_QXT2Fs

[Suze]

VT's are nothing, but probably BB telling them to big themselves up for a more interesting tape. Infact a lot of VT's you can quite clearly see where they jump from one part to another, so some stuff can easily be taken out of context if we are not seeing the full VT.

Aaron's is not the only VT that will differ slightly from him in the house, there are other housemates in there. Plus look at some of the past housemates VT's and tell me how many of them reflected the housemates in the house. Poor try to dig at a housemate because of their VT's.

And as I don't need to give my reasons for liking Aaron, as I have given plenty before in other threads/posts, I will exit this thread now :xyxwave:

[The Human Santapede]

I dont actually think his VT was much different from how he has been in the house. Maybe a little more arrogant, but you have to sell yourself to get in. The only part that was questionable really was the ladies man part, but you can be a ladies man without being a *****.

Infact I would say he's one of the few who has actually remained pretty true to their VT :laugh:

As much as Aaron annoys me I would have to agree. Him and Alex are probably most like the way they portrayed themselves in their VT's.

[Bill Carson]

I reconcile by the fact he told us in his launch night VT that he's bit of a game player and he mentioned this in week 1 - hence his boos when he entered the house. Aaron's always been careful in what he says. On about day 9 Faye (who I suspect fancied him back then) question him about dating and he did say he has no problem getting women, he just doesn't do one night stands.

Cleverly he's not gone on and on about his game playing to the viewers so the game player tag went to Anton. If Aaron's caught game playing more obviously we can't say 'Oh look the mask has slipped' as he told us he wasn't going to be 100% truthful in first place. Good game play from him.


I think maybe you have misundertood...In order for his gameplay to work (which is to persuade the viewers into voting to save him)it is imperative that he deceives you into liking him,otherwise it hasn't worked...A vast tract of the public are voting to save him,not because they think he is playing a 'clever' game,but because ultimately,he has fooled them into believing that.

[Livia]

If everyone else - and I mean every single housemate I've ever seen - turned out to be even bit like their VT, then I'd say Aaron was playing a game. As it is, every one of them talk absolute b*ll*cks on their VT, and Aaron was no different.

[alex_front2]

Let's be honest, Faye's VT was worse 'oh, I am so sexy and good looking all the other girls will be jealous and hate me, as girls always hate me as I'm sexy and funny etc' Cut to <much prettier> Louise starring in disbelief. But of course, Aaron is the most talked about HM so he's getting all the discussion on this!

[Livia]

Let's be honest, Faye's VT was worse 'oh, I am so sexy and good looking all the other girls will be jealous and hate me, as girls always hate me as I'm sexy and funny etc' Cut to <much prettier> Louise starring in disbelief. But of course, Aaron is the most talked about HM so he's getting all the discussion on this!

LOL yeah... No Faye, mostly girls hate you because you're an arrogant, vacuous, immature, whiney little b****.

[BigBrotherfan4ever]

I dont actually think his VT was much different from how he has been in the house. Maybe a little more arrogant, but you have to sell yourself to get in. The only part that was questionable really was the ladies man part, but you can be a ladies man without being a *****.

Infact I would say he's one of the few who has actually remained pretty true to their VT :laugh:

Totally agree with you Vicky.

[tweetypiebabe1]

Aaron's a game player, end of, and a much better one than Anton.

People forget what he was like in the first week, what he said in his VT, what he set out to do with Rebeckah and Louise. I still think he's playing a game but I don't think he's playing a heavy one with Faye, what I mean by that is I think he's genuinely interested in her. How much? That I don't know but he is.

He's made no bones about it to the public he's been there to play a game from day one and I appreciate his honesty like that, it's what the games about.

[Gravedigger]

Is it by just accepting that the bumbling nerd persona is 100% constructed and designed to fool others into believing he is something that he obviously isn't?

Or do you actually believe he is this Hugh Grant type of nervous gent he pretends to be?

Not a flame, genuinly interested in how people rationalise the Aaron that he is pretending to be with the real one that obviously lies underneath.

Do Aaron fans need to reconcile these two supposedly different characters? I don't just like one type of person in life!

Surely it would be possible to like the on-screen, HM Aaron and also the VT Aaron, admiring the game-playing and acting abilities of the latter should it transpire that the former is not 'real'?

I am not convinced the discrepancy between the two is as extreme as you perceive it to be but if so I'll certainly give him his due if he pulls it off.

[Cromwell1900]

Is it by just accepting that the bumbling nerd persona is 100% constructed and designed to fool others into believing he is something that he obviously isn't?

Or do you actually believe he is this Hugh Grant type of nervous gent he pretends to be?

Not a flame, genuinly interested in how people rationalise the Aaron that he is pretending to be with the real one that obviously lies underneath.

Probably because they have decided they like him and not being a "fickle Fan" as i heard someone term it means denial of blame, any blame, all blame, even blame which is deserved.:sleep:

[boomoo]

I don't think he is pretending to be anything, and there was also nothing on his VT to prove that he was anything different to the way he's been in the house since day 1.

Well on his VT he said he was a ladies man yet one of the first things he did was stick his tongue down Tom's throat pretending he was interested in that way.

I would not be suprised if it is not a replay of Jen and Dale. Where Jen was said to be separated from her husband, she made the money and took it back to him.

[MrWong]

Is it by just accepting that the bumbling nerd persona is 100% constructed and designed to fool others into believing he is something that he obviously isn't?

Or do you actually believe he is this Hugh Grant type of nervous gent he pretends to be?

Not a flame, genuinly interested in how people rationalise the Aaron that he is pretending to be with the real one that obviously lies underneath.

Couldn't give a stuff about all that.

Simply put, he's the most entertaining housemate this year. Imo.

[GabbygalEvs]

noones tapes are the same-fayes i dont like other girls bodies im tough that wasnt the same

jems im hard and im going to split jay and louise up

revekeahs im so sweet and nice arent i running a charity

whos vt is the same as the person thats in there?

[Vicky.]

Well on his VT he said he was a ladies man yet one of the first things he did was stick his tongue down Tom's throat pretending he was interested in that way.


For a dare :idc:

[Josy]

Well on his VT he said he was a ladies man yet one of the first things he did was stick his tongue down Tom's throat pretending he was interested in that way.

I would not be suprised if it is not a replay of Jen and Dale. Where Jen was said to be separated from her husband, she made the money and took it back to him.

Oh give over, Aaron and Tom kissed during a game nothing more or less, the fact is he wasn't much different from his VT from what he's been in the house, but the people who dislike him are going to jump on his VT and try use it against him because they have nothing else to slate him for.

[flamingGalah!]

Everyone over exaggerates their personality in their VT, they are trying to get in the house... So I don't think anyones auditions should be held against them...