Can someone specify how exactly Aaron has messed with Faye's head

[alex_front2]

Alot of people have said 'Ohh, I feel Aaron is messing with Faye etc'. 'I get the impression he's using Faye' 'Aaron will dump Faye' etc. Forget the guess work and conjecture, can someone specifically give clear examples.

Bare in mind Faye nominated Aaron 3 times, slags him off behind his back, slags him off to his face, never let's him forget the fact that as a single man not then with Faye he kissed Maisy, and she draped herself all over Anton on evening and said 'have you got a semi Anton?'.

Thanks

[JTM45]

He hasn't! In fact she's messed with his head waaaaay more!!!!
BB has gone so far beyond being a joke now i don't think it can possibly be saved.

[crocs]

This is a good question and I'm waiting to hear those examples as well. :conf:

[alex_front2]

Anyone?

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[Kazanne]

Faye is messing with his head,she is so needy,the whole family is puddled,and gem,don't even go there!!

[Vicky.]

Seems to be the other way round to me.

Though I still like Faye and think shes just highly emotional rather than doing it on purpose.

[ChristmasNeeve]

Seems to be the other way round to me.

Though I still like Faye and think shes just highly emotional rather than doing it on purpose.

It's no wonder she's such an emotional mess with a family like hers, I feel sorry for her actually

[Pyramid*]

Hard as I've tried, I cannot for the life of me see any replies that give solid, concrete reasons or evidence from anyone so far that Aaron has messed with Faye's head........ unless treating her like a responsbile adult when it's due, respecting her, not jumping on her bones when she's pissed, not falling out with her when she's blind drunk but looks after her and makes sure she's in bed before he falls asleep,, doesn't fall out with her or cause a scene when she's pissed & groping other men and trying to get them to kiss her, apologising to her when he feels he has hurt or offended her, and even discussing with other housemates that if it worked out on the outside, he would be able to work from her home town area - if it was serious enough - unless any of that can be regarded as messing with her head.

If anyone is messing - it's her. Not him.

[fruit_cake]

he jumped into bed with Maisy after telling her he really liked her on that date thing..he ignore her the other day just after she told him how much she loved him.

but it's all ok now he's stood up for her and he's there for her! Faye and Aaron 4ever!

[Pyramid*]

It's no wonder she's such an emotional mess with a family like hers, I feel sorry for her actually

but she's clearly learning nothing though.

She's behaving in the way in which it appears she has been conditioned to: by berating him, critisising him, acting with him the way Jem acts with her.

You think she'd see the bigger picture here - but she doesn't - she seems to think only of when that type of behaviour affects HER - not how that same behaviour that SHE displays, affects him.

[Vicky.]

It's no wonder she's such an emotional mess with a family like hers, I feel sorry for her actually

Yeah I know.

I'm glad I have a supportive family, rather than ones who just try to run my life. They dont agree with a lot of my decisions, but realise they are MY mistakes to make, and are just there to pick up the pieces if it all goes wrong. I thought most families were like this :/

[fruit_cake]

Yeah I know.

I'm glad I have a supportive family, rather than ones who just try to run my life. They dont agree with a lot of my decisions, but realise they are MY mistakes to make, and are just there to pick up the pieces if it all goes wrong. I thought most families were like this :/

you're really lucky Vicky not all families are like that

[Marmalite]

Faye's pretty emotionally immature and extremely high maintenance and I take my hat off to Aaron for lasting this long!

[Pyramid*]

Yeah I know.

I'm glad I have a supportive family, rather than ones who just try to run my life. They dont agree with a lot of my decisions, but realise they are MY mistakes to make, and are just there to pick up the pieces if it all goes wrong. I thought most families were like this :/

TBH Vicky, I'd have thought not only most families were like this: but most people who care for someone else, whether families, friends, other loved ones.

We can steer people on a path -but as adults, they are individuals, with their own thoughts, ideas, views, wants, needs and desires and that must be respected. One size does not fit all - that's what families/friends care about - them being there if adn when those times come, to comfort - not the 'be there to berate and make the person feel like crap and want to control'.

[Vicky.]

In my honest opinion...Fayes mother and sister have made her look more of a fool than Aaron could have ever done.

They have basically told the world that at 21 she is incapable of making her own decisions...still needing mummy and big sis' backing for everything. Fayes mum had to wait like 2 weeks to tell her daughter her concerns, not do it on TV where 1m ish people will see. Shes kinda made her a laughing stock :/

[Cromwell1900]

Alot of people have said 'Ohh, I feel Aaron is messing with Faye etc'. 'I get the impression he's using Faye' 'Aaron will dump Faye' etc. Forget the guess work and conjecture, can someone specifically give clear examples.

Bare in mind Faye nominated Aaron 3 times, slags him off behind his back, slags him off to his face, never let's him forget the fact that as a single man not then with Faye he kissed Maisy, and she draped herself all over Anton on evening and said 'have you got a semi Anton?'.

Thanks

Two things stick out to me

Harry said
"The attention to detail is unreal" regarding his relationship with Faye
Aaron made no effort to correct him.

In the bathroom suggesting she could of dumped her mates to support him. After he had took the brunt of the criticism after the stranded task

What do you think?

[Pyramid*]

In my honest opinion...Fayes mother and sister have made her look more of a fool than Aaron could have ever done.

They have basically told the world that at 21 she is incapable of making her own decisions...still needing mummy and big sis's backing for everything. Fayes mum had to wait like 2 weeks to tell her daughter her concerns, not do it on TV where 1m ish people will see. Shes kinda made her a laughing stock :/

yep, hard not to agree with that.

the mother has also shown to the whole BB viewing audience: what type of family Faye has and their influence on her. (as well as Jem).

Let's be honest: it would be enough to send many a half decent bloke running for this hills....... Mrs 'Bates' clearly wants to control her daughters - and they are allowing her to do precisely that.

[Cromwell1900]

Anyone?

****tumbleweed*********************

Well Aaron non Fans are a rare bread around here be patient, were like the no 49 bus, one will turn up eventually. :wink:

[stitch1]

the only ones messing with fayes head are her sister and mother and not Aaron

[alex_front2]

he jumped into bed with Maisy after telling her he really liked her on that date thing..he ignore her the other day just after she told him how much she loved him.



Let's break this down.

He jumped into bed with Maisy after date. Yes and Faye made it clear that she didn't fancy Aaron and that she saw him as a geek and bit of a joke. She also fancied Jay back then but he turned her down. After the date she mocked Aaron romantically, ridiculed him with Tom for not speaking dirty and even offered to help him come out as gay.

Ignored her when she declared her love - Aaron was deep in conversation with Tom and Faye was just jumping in like an attention-seeking toddler. He can speak to other people and she needs to realise that Aaron's life doesn't evolve around pleasing her. In the real world Aaron has a 6 year old, he doesn't need another one. That's not messing with her head, that's putting her in her place and telling her to grow the ******* up!!! :joker:

[alex_front2]

Two things stick out to me

Harry said
"The attention to detail is unreal" regarding his relationship with Faye
Aaron made no effort to correct him.

In the bathroom suggesting she could of dumped her mates to support him. After he had took the brunt of the criticism after the stranded task

What do you think?

So if Harry says something that becomes evidence. Really?! :joker: Tell me you're not a lawyer. What next, Jay says that Tom is a leprechaun so it *must* be true. :joker: btw Aaron also did correct Harry if you watch that back ONLINE.

Not sure what you mean about stranded task

[Tourmaline]

Hard as I've tried, I cannot for the life of me see any replies that give solid, concrete reasons or evidence from anyone so far that Aaron has messed with Faye's head........ unless treating her like a responsbile adult when it's due, respecting her, not jumping on her bones when she's pissed, not falling out with her when she's blind drunk but looks after her and makes sure she's in bed before he falls asleep,, doesn't fall out with her or cause a scene when she's pissed & groping other men and trying to get them to kiss her, apologising to her when he feels he has hurt or offended her, and even discussing with other housemates that if it worked out on the outside, he would be able to work from her home town area - if it was serious enough - unless any of that can be regarded as messing with her head.

If anyone is messing - it's her. Not him.

Well said :thumbs:......I agree

[qwertyell]

Harry said
"The attention to detail is unreal" regarding his relationship with Faye
Aaron made no effort to correct him.



Not true. Aaron said: "I do like her."

Harry: "I know. That's the problem." (or "that's what I'm worried about" - something like that)

[alex_front2]

Not true. Aaron said: "I do like her."

Harry: "I know. That's the problem." (or "that's what I'm worried about" - something like that)

Exactly but I think that was cut off right at the end of the HL but on BB website

[fitz2k2]

really?go back n watch highlights

[Kazanne]

the only ones messing with fayes head are her sister and mother and not aaron

this^

[Kazanne]

No real evidence then,just proving that people are jumping on the bandwagon because whoever they are a fan off dissed him,sad really

[alex_front2]

I know, for a minute I was worried that there was some footage that I'd missed but it seems a bit based on what Harry cryptically said, Aaron admitting early on that he had some sort of game plan, Aaron kissing Maisy (before he got with Faye), the fact that Aaron often refuses to pander to Faye and an impression that Aaron gives off. That's it. That's it.

[ChristmasNeeve]

In my honest opinion...Fayes mother and sister have made her look more of a fool than Aaron could have ever done.

They have basically told the world that at 21 she is incapable of making her own decisions...still needing mummy and big sis' backing for everything. Fayes mum had to wait like 2 weeks to tell her daughter her concerns, not do it on TV where 1m ish people will see. Shes kinda made her a laughing stock :/

Yep. You hit the nail on the head there. You can bet your life, her mothers nomination will have humiliated and hurt her far more than anything that's gone on between her and Aaron.

[jet]

Yes, Faye IS emotionally needy and insecure. Whether she is like this in the outside world I have no idea, but in the house Aaron unfortunately entered into a relationship with her and his odd behaviour towards someone he says he fancies IS messing with her head - and being the way she is, she is reacting to that.
This is only 1 example - when she burped, he rejected her and it almost ended the relationship. How normal is this? How could he possibly let something like that cause someone he cared for to feel disgusting? He goes around shaking his head and sulking over things she does that don’t please him. The overall impression is that he disapproves of her and is only with her because she perseveres. When she is open about her feelings, he is often cold and cagey. He refused to try and mend bridges with Jem, which he would have done if he really cared for Faye. All Aaron really cares about is himself and how HE feels.
He is certainly not aggressive towards her - his actions are subtle and manipulative. If Aaron really wanted her and made her feel cared for, Faye wouldn’t have any reason to be needy and Jem, her mother, the other mothers and many more of us who can see the true dynamics in this relationship would have no inclination to ‘pick’ on Aaron. He is playing her like a cat plays with a mouse - and stupidly she lets him and goes back for more.
I am not a fan of Aaron, obviously. I liked him the first week or two, then I was on to him. I don’t particularly like Faye either, but she is a young girl and Aaron has more experience of the world - he already has a failed marriage behind him. It seems to me that any woman entering into a relationship with him will have to mould herself to be what Aaron wants, or else she will be subjected to his moods and periods of aloofness. This is what people see who are not Aaron fans, and therefore more objective - from what I have observed on the net.

[jyunga]

Aaron: I really like you.
Faye: *burp*
Aaron ignores Faye for 24 hours.

That's not treating someone you care about very good. Should be telling someone how much you like them and then doing things that show you don't really care about them as you say.

[kistar]

I think Aaron is quite self contained and knows his own mind who he is excetera, Faye tries to make him react to situations and what she says and generally he doesnt, I think she finds that quite frustrating . Its like she wants to know she can "move" him but he isnt that type of person , also the age difference along side her emmotional immaturity makes it seem like he is playing with her , however in my opinion he is just not playing her game.

[MeMyselfAndI]

Half the people that say all of this, you'd think were living in the house itself or had 24 hour live feed :idc:

[jet]

Half the people that say all of this, you'd think were living in the house itself or had 24 hour live feed :idc:

Well, the other boys ARE living in the house. Maybe you would believe them? Watch the latest video on facebook.
http://apps.facebook.com/bigbrother-uk/?ref=bookmarks&count=0&fb_source=bookmarks_apps&fb_bmpos=1_0

[alex_front2]

Aaron: I really like you.
Faye: *burp*
Aaron ignores Faye for 24 hours.

That's not treating someone you care about very good. Should be telling someone how much you like them and then doing things that show you don't really care about them as you say.

But that's exactly what I'd do to be fair! :nono: You don't always have to pander to your partner. A relationship doesn't have to be about giving in. Besides I think it's good to sometimes be emotional unavailable.:joker:

Besides I think Faye was worst when she ignored Aaron, sought out Anton, leaned on him and asked him if he had a semi and didn't berate Jay when he called Aaron 'that'

[Kazanne]

Aaron: I really like you.
Faye: *burp*
Aaron ignores Faye for 24 hours.

That's not treating someone you care about very good. Should be telling someone how much you like them and then doing things that show you don't really care about them as you say.

She didn't just 'burp' though did she,WHY would she chose to do it down his ear!!! doesn't she realise SOME people were brought up with manners,not everyone finds this kind of behaviour acceptable.If Aaron did not like it,why should he pretend he did,just to keep the peace with her?Love someone who sticks to their principles no matter what.

[ChristmasNeeve]

Well, the other boys ARE living in the house. Maybe you would believe them? Watch the latest video on facebook.
http://apps.facebook.com/bigbrother-uk/?ref=bookmarks&count=0&fb_source=bookmarks_apps&fb_bmpos=1_0

Yes, that's the same Tom who just the other day said that Aaron was the consistent one of the two of them and Faye was the mess? You don't think that the family nominations could have changed his mind at all?? Shock. Horror. :idc:

http://apps.facebook.com/bigbrother-uk/article/Day-44-Jem-and-Tom-wake-up-and-talk-Faye/

[Vicky.]

Yes, that's the same Tom who just the other day said that Aaron was the consistent one of the two of them and Faye was the mess? You don't think that the family nominations could have changed his mind at all?? Shock. Horror. :idc:

http://apps.facebook.com/bigbrother-uk/article/Day-44-Jem-and-Tom-wake-up-and-talk-Faye/

Exactly.

Just how they were planned to do too :wink:

The housemates now think that Aaron is massively unpopular with the general public just because of a couple of people, when they couldnt really be more wrong. Only JAY...and this shocked me a lot...seems to not have changed in his attitude towards Aaron :shocked:

[ChristmasNeeve]

Exactly.

Just how they were planned to do too :wink:

The housemates now think that Aaron is massively unpopular with the general public just because of a couple of people, when they couldnt really be more wrong. Only JAY...and this shocked me a lot...seems to not have changed in his attitude towards Aaron :shocked:

Yeah, I was impressed with Jay actually, he seems to have turned into Aarons unlikely and only allie. Fingers crossed that he beats Jem on Friday but I'm getting less and less sure as time goes on.

[Vicky.]

Yeah, I was impressed with Jay actually, he seems to have turned into Aarons unlikely and only allie. Fingers crossed that he beats Jem on Friday but I'm getting less and less sure as time goes on.

Yeah I'm pretty sure hes gone on friday too.

I'm at work friday night though so will miss the eviction :laugh:

[jet]

Yes, that's the same Tom who just the other day said that Aaron was the consistent one of the two of them and Faye was the mess? You don't think that the family nominations could have changed his mind at all?? Shock. Horror. :idc:

http://apps.facebook.com/bigbrother-uk/article/Day-44-Jem-and-Tom-wake-up-and-talk-Faye/

They were talking about a specific incident, not about the relationship as a whole, as they were in the sauna. :nono:
So do you think Harry's mind has been changed by the family noms too? He feels the same as Tom.

[ChristmasNeeve]

They were talking about a specific incident, not about the relationship as a whole, as they were in the sauna. :nono:
So do you think Harry's mind has been changed by the family noms too? He feels the same as Tom.

Yes I do think that............seeing as Harry actually said that........

[Kazanne]

Aarons a thinker,Fayes a drinker,they need to split

[ibkaz]

Seems to be the other way round to me.

Though I still like Faye and think shes just highly emotional rather than doing it on purpose.

This

I feel Faye is far to needy, and wants Aaron to express how he feels about her more and it is not happening. They are very awkward with each other when it comes to expressing feelings. I mean she beats round the bush in explaining how she feels and expects Aaron to guess what she is trying to say, and then gets a bit huffy when he not getting the vibes. When he has tried she like 'what you mean?, or oooooooo kaaaay.

I'm afraid the realationship is doomed now, and for anti Aaron fans he is in a no win situation. Faye is in the I don't know what to believe situation. Aaron is like what the .....?

[flamingGalah!]

Aaron has done NOTHING wrong to Faye at all... :nono:

And for those nominations to mention that he has, smells more fishy than Jay's fingers after his night with Louise... The friends/relatives have only seen the broadcast hi-lights that we have all seen, so either they were lying, were told to nominate him, or have had access to 24 hour live feed where Aaron has been treating Faye apallingly... Hmmm...

[jet]

Aaron has done NOTHING wrong to Faye at all...

Good Lord. You couldn't make this stuff up. :laugh2::laugh2::laugh2:

[ibkaz]

Yes, Faye IS emotionally needy and insecure. Whether she is like this in the outside world I have no idea, but in the house Aaron unfortunately entered into a relationship with her and his odd behaviour towards someone he says he fancies IS messing with her head - and being the way she is, she is reacting to that.
This is only 1 example - when she burped, he rejected her and it almost ended the relationship. How normal is this? How could he possibly let something like that cause someone he cared for to feel disgusting? He goes around shaking his head and sulking over things she does that don’t please him. The overall impression is that he disapproves of her and is only with her because she perseveres. When she is open about her feelings, he is often cold and cagey. He refused to try and mend bridges with Jem, which he would have done if he really cared for Faye. All Aaron really cares about is himself and how HE feels.
He is certainly not aggressive towards her - his actions are subtle and manipulative. If Aaron really wanted her and made her feel cared for, Faye wouldn’t have any reason to be needy and Jem, her mother, the other mothers and many more of us who can see the true dynamics in this relationship would have no inclination to ‘pick’ on Aaron. He is playing her like a cat plays with a mouse - and stupidly she lets him and goes back for more.
I am not a fan of Aaron, obviously. I liked him the first week or two, then I was on to him. I don’t particularly like Faye either, but she is a young girl and Aaron has more experience of the world - he already has a failed marriage behind him. It seems to me that any woman entering into a relationship with him will have to mould herself to be what Aaron wants, or else she will be subjected to his moods and periods of aloofness. This is what people see who are not Aaron fans, and therefore more objective - from what I have observed on the net.

This is a fairly good read, however Faye has put Aaron down many times too, mention his son, calling him wierd because he hasn't slept with anyone for so many years, or snogged anyone for x amount of months, she even told him he is like a very attractive geek

Many a time when she be trying to have a conversation with him she would 'expect a certain answer to suit what she asked' when this didn't happen, she would say 'oh Aaron' and make him look small < hard to explain, but to me this is the same moulding situation that you speak of Aaron.

I think Aaron likes prim and proper ladies, it is not really his fault if he shows anoyance if he sees what he think os as childish behaviour ( this is probably from his upbringing)

He over reacts about things about Faye as much as she gets stroppy over things with him.

[flamingGalah!]

Good Lord. You couldn't make this stuff up. :laugh2::laugh2::laugh2:

Please give an example to what he has done wrong then??!!?? :conf:

[Vicky.]

I see as usual noone has a convincing argument about how Aaron is so horrible to Faye.

Interesting that the main thing seems to be when he got pissed off over her burping in his face. I wonder how many of the people slating him for that would be happy with their partner of a few weeks purposely burping in their face...knowing they didnt like it... because someone they disliked told them to ;)

[waterhog]

if any man dose not no what he wants at his age < then he is messing with everyone heads < has he been like alex < harry < and kept himself to himself < not he has jumped in the deep end and he can not swin well.


aaron dont ask me to chuck in the red ring to help you swim, and yes i am being serious.

[Kazanne]

if any man dose not no what he wants at his age < then he is messing with everyone heads < has he been like alex < harry < and kept himself to himself < not he has jumped in the deep end and he can not swin well.


aaron dont ask me to chuck in the red ring to help you swim, and yes i am being serious.

Oh dear is THAT supposed to be the answer:joker::joker::joker::laugh3::laugh3::pat::p at:

[alex_front2]

I definitely think Aaron likes prim and proper ladies not beer swilling ladettes which is sort of what Faye is. When she mentioned she wanted to get both nipple pierced to Jay, Aaron look revolted and shocked. He wants walks in the country with a lady, not boozy nights out.

When Fay mentioned that it was weird how he hadn't slept with the woman he was seeing before entering the house, Aaron tellingly said 'it's because she's a proper lady!'. And herein lies the problem Aaron likes ladies to be ladylike. Not beer drinking, overtly sexual, vulgar, boob flashing, burping and loud.

In the recently shown VT he even says he hates loud women. He likes to chase women, not have them throwing themselves at him which is too easy. So he's old school (which I love). I'd be the same if I was a bloke, can't stand women who are too sexual forward, it's tacky. Faye did ALL the running when they got together.

[cell]

Aaron is only guilty of taking her back time and time again. He probably fears what may happen if he doesn't, he really put himself in a bad situation getting involved with her. They are completely un compatible. I guess the flack lays on him because he is older and should recognize a bad thing when he sees it and make distance but didn't.

[jyunga]

She didn't just 'burp' though did she,WHY would she chose to do it down his ear!!! doesn't she realise SOME people were brought up with manners,not everyone finds this kind of behaviour acceptable.If Aaron did not like it,why should he pretend he did,just to keep the peace with her?Love someone who sticks to their principles no matter what.

It's not about pretending he liked it. He can be disgusted and annoyed with her. But you don't normal ignore a person for hours on end because of something childish they did when they were drunk. His reactions are what make him come off looking like he is using her. I don't know of anyone that has really liked someone I know and acted the way he does when something happens he doesn't like. I'd like to believe that's just the type of person he is. But at the same time, it does make it look like he isn't very interested in her when he reacts like that... which makes all his "i really really like you" talk seem like game play at times.

ps: i like aaron and think he really likes her. he's just odd and she's immature... and BB feeds them too much alcohol = troubles.

[ChristmasNeeve]

It's not about pretending he liked it. He can be disgusted and annoyed with her. But you don't normal ignore a person for hours on end because of something childish they did when they were drunk. His reactions are what make him come off looking like he is using her. I don't know of anyone that has really liked someone I know and acted the way he does when something happens he doesn't like. I'd like to believe that's just the type of person he is. But at the same time, it does make it look like he isn't very interested in her when he reacts like that... which makes all his "i really really like you" talk seem like game play at times.

ps: i like aaron and think he really likes her. he's just odd and she's immature... and BB feeds them too much alcohol = troubles.

Another problem imo is that when you start dating someone in r/l, you're not living with them straight away and in their company 24/7 that has to be a bit much for anyone, surely?

[Kazanne]

It's not about pretending he liked it. He can be disgusted and annoyed with her. But you don't normal ignore a person for hours on end because of something childish they did when they were drunk. His reactions are what make him come off looking like he is using her. I don't know of anyone that has really liked someone I know and acted the way he does when something happens he doesn't like. I'd like to believe that's just the type of person he is. But at the same time, it does make it look like he isn't very interested in her when he reacts like that... which makes all his "i really really like you" talk seem like game play at times.

ps: i like aaron and think he really likes her. he's just odd and she's immature... and BB feeds them too much alcohol = troubles.

It could also be said that her nominating him 3 times is not the act of someone you fancy,also Faye bringing his son into an argument,faye giving Anton a drunken grope,sorry but there are lots of things Aaron should be pissed off about,faye has often ridiculed Aaron,have not seen him to that to her,maybe his way of handling things is to shut up and think about the situation,which some see as a sulk.he was very hurt when he heard Fayes nomination of him and again with Fayes family,imo Aaron would do much better to steer clear of both those sisters.

[alex_front2]

But that's what I am saying. Aaron has an awkward way of dealing with situations. He's non confrontational so either walks away, ignores, heads to smoking area for contemplation, imposes speaking ban, runs to DR or dives under duvet. This is often foolhardy but at least it leads to talking points. For example when the whole Maisy situation blew up he heads to DR and Maisy was left to deal with it. Not the best from Aaron but he's flawed and being 100% perfect would be dull.

Having said that I do think Aaron uses his awkwardness to get away with things for example when he kissed Maisy I am totally convinced he knew full well Faye fancied him and wanted to goad her into feeling jealous. That's the only overt manipulation I've seen, but that's not particually bad as it made Faye confront her attraction to him which she had been suppressing by constantly mocking him and labeling him gay etc.

[Ellen]

He cant tell her to s*d off so his way of dealing with her is to remove himself from the situation or any situation in the house he doesnt like.

Maybe people think all his speaking, not speaking is mind games

[fruit_cake]

I find it very difficult to trust Aaron personally after the Maisy/bed swapping affair

[jyunga]

But that's really the problem isn't it. His awkwardness gives the perception to some viewers that he is using her because of his reactions. To me a lot of Faye's actions against Aaron come off as her being a spoiled brat. Boy doesn't seem to like me? Vote him out. I don't think she had much gameplay in the early weeks.


I find it very difficult to trust Aaron personally after the Maisy/bed swapping affair

Well he said he was interested in her and for a week she did nothing to show she was interested back in him. So what can you do? Another girl cuddles up in bed with you and shows interested. I think his not talking to Faye was likely cause he was interested but didn't know how to approach her. That first week she was a tease with him and blew him off emotionally. I'd probably have kissed maisy in the same situation too ;d

[ChristmasNeeve]

He cant tell her to s*d off so his way of dealing with her is to remove himself from the situation or any situation in the house he doesnt like.

Maybe people think all his speaking, not speaking is mind games

maybe so, in real life he could just go home

[chuff me dizzy]

Watch it spit its dummy out again ,God shes one boring ,needy cowbag http://apps.facebook.com/bigbrother-uk/article/pick-on-Faye-day/

[chuff me dizzy]

I find it very difficult to trust Aaron personally after the Maisy/bed swapping affair

Your hero was not put off by it was she? soon jumped in for sloppy seconds ,minging cow she is

[Ellen]

maybe so, in real life he could just go home

Exactly...

In real life i dont think he would go anywhere near Faye

[flamingGalah!]

I find it very difficult to trust Aaron personally after the Maisy/bed swapping affair

'bed swapping affair' :conf: :joker:

You mean when he SNOGGED Maisy after Faye showed NO INTEREST in him & then SHE had a fit because she liked him?! Yes, makes him very untrustworthy that :joker:

[alex_front2]

I find it very difficult to trust Aaron personally after the Maisy/bed swapping affair

But what actually was wrong about that. Aaron's a single guy, Maisy admitted she wanted some sexual attention, and she had grown closer to Aaron after they resolved cup-cake gate. Faye did not overtly express her attraction to Aaron and was actually mocking him 2 days earlier for being camp and jokingingly not able to talk dirty to her and Tom.

Faye was mad with Aaron over Maisy as he seemed to get over her rapidly after he confessed to fancying her on the date and she didn't reciprocate. Having said that, I do think Aaron knew that Faye fancied him as she began to follow him around the HM and start conversations about dating and love life.

[fruit_cake]

Your hero was not put off by it was she? soon jumped in for sloppy seconds ,minging cow she is

Shock Horror! Faye knows what she wants and isn't afraid to go and get it. She doesn't fake anything what you see is what you get. She's the one who got Aaron, nobody else.. Faye is the one who won the 'lord'.

[chuff me dizzy]

Shock Horror! Faye knows what she wants and isn't afraid to go and get it. She doesn't fake anything what you see is what you get. She's the one who got Aaron, nobody else.. Faye is the one who won the 'lord'.

Oh please :bored::bored:

[fruit_cake]

But what actually was wrong about that. Aaron's a single guy, Maisy admitted she wanted some sexual attention, and she had grown closer to Aaron after they resolved cup-cake gate. Faye did not overtly express her attraction to Aaron and was actually mocking him 2 days earlier for being camp and jokingingly not able to talk dirty to her and Tom.

Faye was mad with Aaron over Maisy as he seemed to get over her rapidly after he confessed to fancying her on the date and she didn't reciprocate. Having said that, I do think Aaron knew that Faye fancied him as she began to follow him around the HM and start conversations about dating and love life.

I didn't say there was anything wrong with it, I just said it means I personally wouldn't trust him.

In my view he made things better when he stood by her after the nominations fiasco last night! Now I trust him again

[jet]

I see as usual noone has a convincing argument about how Aaron is so horrible to Faye.

Interesting that the main thing seems to be when he got pissed off over her burping in his face. I wonder how many of the people slating him for that would be happy with their partner of a few weeks purposely burping in their face...knowing they didnt like it... because someone they disliked told them to ;)

Personally, I'm not saying Aaron is HORRIBLE to her - he just doesn't treat her right sometimes and is manipulative and odd.
If you burped in YOUR partners ear when you'd had a few, would you be happy if he acted as if he was disgusted, talked about ending the relationship and wouldn't speak to you for a whole day?

[fruit_cake]

Faye is the way ladies and gentleman! Faye is the way

[alex_front2]

Personally, I'm not saying Aaron is HORRIBLE to her - he just doesn't treat her right sometimes and is manipulative and odd.
If you burped in YOUR partners ear when you'd had a few, would you be happy if he acted as if he was disgusted, talked about ending the relationship and wouldn't speak to you for a whole day?

But that's the whole point, everyone is different and has different things that p*ss them off. For example Jay loves Louise's farts. I'd hate it. Aaron is a BB maverick

[jet]

I see as usual noone has a convincing argument about how Aaron is so horrible to Faye.

Interesting that the main thing seems to be when he got pissed off over her burping in his face. I wonder how many of the people slating him for that would be happy with their partner of a few weeks purposely burping in their face...knowing they didnt like it... because someone they disliked told them to ;)

I'm seeing some pretty convincing points, and I also saw them with my own eyes on BB. Personally, I'm not saying Aaron is HORRIBLE to her - he just doesn't treat her right sometimes and is manipulative and odd.
If you burped in YOUR partners ear when you'd had a few, would you be happy if he acted as if he was disgusted, talked about ending the relationship and wouldn't speak to you for a whole day?

[Vicky.]

Well, the other boys ARE living in the house. Maybe you would believe them? Watch the latest video on facebook.
http://apps.facebook.com/bigbrother-uk/?ref=bookmarks&count=0&fb_source=bookmarks_apps&fb_bmpos=1_0

Will post this again.

T: He is getting boring though isnt he
H: What the whole relationship thing?
T: mmm
H: Yeah
J: Cant make it out D:
T:Yeah thats what louise as saying she was like, she said er, like, its horrible coz sometimes theres tension in here, you do feel it sometimes
J: I must admit like, Im glad, like, ya na what I mean, I do feel for the bloke but Im glad Im not like that with lou
H: god yeah
Tom: At the end of the day jay, nobody said I dont like the way Jay treats louise, or that I think louise leads jay on, or anything like that..nobodys said that have they?
H:Yeah and you two are like..
T: your quite casual like..
H: your still yourselves, I still see you as jay and louise as louise where as now
T: Aaron and faye is aaron and faye
J: it is aaron and faye aye
H: Theyre constantly just bickering, and like, Ive given up
T: They do dont they, theres no giving them advice coz they just
H: Faye will come to us and say 'oh yeah me and aaron what do you think I should do' and then aaron will be like 'oh yeah du du du du'
T: its like that night when she was like oh I think Im just gunna leave it til im out and see what happens and she gave her reasons for it and i thought well i think if thats what you think then
J: I think that was the best thing to do but then a couple of hours later shes in his bed
H:Yeah exactly, and I was just like
J: At the end of the day Aaron did turn round and say if jem leaves if faye tries to get back into is I will tell her where to gan
H: Yeah
J: because he was hurt by the whole..thing
T: Thats it Jay, I think he thinks its just what jemma has said but its not just that
J: yeah a na, its not
T:Theres other things like, I think hes trying to put all the blame on jem, which isnt the case I did say actually there is other things and he was like what and I was like, well I dunno youl have to speak to faye about everything wont ya. But I know like he doesnt treat her very nice sometimes
H:No exactly
T: Its not like hes standing there going your a bitch, but ya cant be with someone in a house like this were you've gotta be with them, and ignore them for days
J: Aye its coz of stuff like that thats what looks bad
H:Shel come over to him and hes like..
T: And have like a drastic falling out coz she burped
H: Yeah I couldnt believe that
J: Aye that was ridiculous
H: He took a whole day to get over a burp, I was like...

Nowhere near as bad as how people are making it out to be. Its not like they are sat discussing how Aaron had badly mistreat faye like some would like it to be. They are merely pointing out what we already know, that faye and Aaron have a complicated relationship, and that he takes huffs over little things. Nothing in that conversation contradicts what we have seen for ourselves already.

And again, their main criticism seems to be the burp thing. Yes, he overreacted, but noone would be happy with their 'new' partner burping in their face purposely when they knew they didnt like it. In real life he would probably have just gone home and seen her the next day, but he CANT do that in there.

[Vicky.]

I'm seeing some pretty convincing points, and I also saw them with my own eyes on BB. Personally, I'm not saying Aaron is HORRIBLE to her - he just doesn't treat her right sometimes and is manipulative and odd.
If you burped in YOUR partners ear when you'd had a few, would you be happy if he acted as if he was disgusted, talked about ending the relationship and wouldn't speak to you for a whole day?

OK first off...I wouldnt do that.

If I knew that burping in his ear would piss him off...and someone who my 'new' partner didnt get on with was egging me on to do it just to piss him off, and I knew he was sensitive about manners then no way would I do it.

And if I did I would expect him to probably go home, or at least have an argument about it. As it happens, Aaron doesnt really do arguments, so obviously he would have just removed himself from the situation. Unfortunately in the BB house he cant exactly do that can he?

[jet]

I see as usual noone has a convincing argument about how Aaron is so horrible to Faye.

Interesting that the main thing seems to be when he got pissed off over her burping in his face. I wonder how many of the people slating him for that would be happy with their partner of a few weeks purposely burping in their face...knowing they didnt like it... because someone they disliked told them to ;)

I'm seeing some pretty convincing points, and I also saw them with my own eyes on BB. :nono:
Personally, I'm not saying Aaron is HORRIBLE to her - he just doesn't treat her right sometimes and is manipulative and odd.
The burping event - If you burped in YOUR partners ear when you'd had a few, would you be happy if he acted as if he was disgusted, talked about ending the relationship and wouldn't speak to you for a whole day? It seems most Aaron fans think this is a good way to deal with such a situation and that just doesn't seem real to me.

[flamingGalah!]

My other half sometimes burps in my face & I literally smack him in the mouth. He knows I find it disgusting, which it is, so I can understand Aaron being repulsed by it too...

[fruit_cake]

do you go of in a huff for the next 24 hours flaming?

[flamingGalah!]

do you go of in a huff for the next 24 hours flaming?

Not 24 hours no, but I do have a hissy fit for a good while :p

[Vicky.]

My other half sometimes burps in my face & I literally smack him in the mouth. He knows I find it disgusting, which it is, so I can understand Aaron being repulsed by it too...

:o

You have an interesting relationship I assume? :p

[fruit_cake]

I wouldn't like it if someone burped in my face either, but personally I'd just see it as how disgusting they were and would never touch them again If I even let them touch me in the first place.

[boomoo]

Alot of people have said 'Ohh, I feel Aaron is messing with Faye etc'. 'I get the impression he's using Faye' 'Aaron will dump Faye' etc. Forget the guess work and conjecture, can someone specifically give clear examples.

Bare in mind Faye nominated Aaron 3 times, slags him off behind his back, slags him off to his face, never let's him forget the fact that as a single man not then with Faye he kissed Maisy, and she draped herself all over Anton on evening and said 'have you got a semi Anton?'.

Thanks

I suppose he said it himself when he thought his plan had unravelled. Last night's clip where he said 'ten years work down the drain'.
So yes she is part of his plan. He is worried becaus Faye's Mum nominated him.

[flamingGalah!]

:o

You have an interesting relationship I assume? :p

Oh yes, but the make up sex is great ;)

[fruit_cake]

If it were someone I liked who burped in my face.. I think I'd just laugh it off I reckon but I'd have to really like them I guess

[boomoo]

I wouldn't like it if someone burped in my face either, but personally I'd just see it as how disgusting they were and would never touch them again If I even let them touch me in the first place.

But he has to because he thinks wrongly you need a fauxmance to win BB. You don't. Sophie Reid proved that.

[fruit_cake]

Oh yes, but the make up sex is great ;)

TMI :joker:

[boomoo]

I definitely think Aaron likes prim and proper ladies not beer swilling ladettes which is sort of what Faye is. When she mentioned she wanted to get both nipple pierced to Jay, Aaron look revolted and shocked. He wants walks in the country with a lady, not boozy nights out.

When Fay mentioned that it was weird how he hadn't slept with the woman he was seeing before entering the house, Aaron tellingly said 'it's because she's a proper lady!'. And herein lies the problem Aaron likes ladies to be ladylike. Not beer drinking, overtly sexual, vulgar, boob flashing, burping and loud.

In the recently shown VT he even says he hates loud women. He likes to chase women, not have them throwing themselves at him which is too easy. So he's old school (which I love). I'd be the same if I was a bloke, can't stand women who are too sexual forward, it's tacky. Faye did ALL the running when they got together.

So if Faye is everything he hates in a woman what is he doing with her. Harry is doing fine and he has not had a fauxmance. Read the thread on Digitalspy where Aaron's wife puts a few matters straight. When asked if Aaron had not had sex for seven years she laughed. So why does he keep saying this. Does he think it will make him more attractive to women or that women will think well I will be the one to change you.
His relationship with Faye might last as long as their photoshoot although not many papers seem to interested this year.

[Vicky.]

Oh yes, but the make up sex is great ;)

Heh. Been there.

Well, kinda currently there. Mine and my lads relationship is 'questionable' by many peoples standards, but it works for us :laugh:

[jet]

OK first off...I wouldnt do that.

If I knew that burping in his ear would piss him off...and someone who my 'new' partner didnt get on with was egging me on to do it just to piss him off, and I knew he was sensitive about manners then no way would I do it.

And if I did I would expect him to probably go home, or at least have an argument about it. As it happens, Aaron doesnt really do arguments, so obviously he would have just removed himself from the situation. Unfortunately in the BB house he cant exactly do that can he?

She didn't know him that well, and couldn't possibly have predicted Aaron would behave the way he did about it, because it was a way over the top reaction. That is my point. It is Aaron's WAY of dealing with situations that is just not mature or rational that gets him into trouble. He could have explained to her that he REALLY REALLY doesn't like that, asked her not to do it again, and left it at that. Instead he makes a whole drama out of it.

[flamingGalah!]

Heh. Been there.

Well, kinda currently there. Mine and my lads relationship is 'questionable' by many peoples standards, but it works for us :laugh:

Yep us too :)

We can be having a blazing row & 5 minutes later be in bed... But that's slightly off topic :joker:

[Cromwell1900]

So if Harry says something that becomes evidence. Really?! Tell me you're not a lawyer.

Yes it does how come you are even questioning that, are you demanding a rediculously high standard of evidence here? ask any good lawyer.

btw Aaron also did correct Harry if you watch that back ONLINE.

So I'll quote a post of mine from before Aaron admited manipulating people to Gem.
http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/forums/showthread.php?t=187551&page=3

Well i did hear some talk about there being more to that conversation so i'm not suggesting i no it all but Harry did say it.

"The whole relationship thing, the attention to detail is unreal"

Then Aaron says

"I've down played it, haven't played it sort of thing"

"I don't want to come out and just have questions about Faye"

Aaron went on to say I do like Faye, to which Harry replied that's what worries me.


Unless your telling me BB have jumbled up the first 3 lines of dialogue (are you?) in the edit. i can't believe this is not a clear example of Aaron playing with Faye, which is what you have asked for.

Not sure what you mean about stranded task

If you cast your mind back to the letters from home task in which Aaron was upset because of the Frosties fight the night before, he had a conversation with Faye in the bathroom.

He pointed out that she had been friendly with Louise since the stranded task, even though he had
taken the brunt of the blame for walking out of the Stranded task.

Why if not to guilt trip her did he connect those two things? I am open to alternative possibilities as i am at a loss for one

Lots of people are asking people who disaprove of Aaron to justify there disaproval, and that is fair. I think i have done it as openly and honestly as i possibly can be. I have not simply pointed at an incident then drawn assumptions from that incident to justify my opinion, but i have given checkable, provavble facts which can easily be shown to be false by anyone who genuinely believes my motives are to "Get Aaron" here is your chance.

"Come Get Me" :wink:

And if you do, ill be happy to.........Run away & hide for a few days till my tail resumes it's normal position. :thumbs:

[Vicky.]

She didn't know him that well, and couldn't possibly have predicted Aaron would behave the way he did about it, because it was a way over the top reaction. That is my point. It is Aaron's WAY of dealing with situations that is just not mature or rational that gets him into trouble. He could have explained to her that he REALLY REALLY doesn't like that, asked her not to do it again, and left it at that. Instead he makes a whole drama out of it.

She did know how much it annoyed him though, as when they were sitting burping round the table, he was clearly disgusted...she knew that it would cause a reaction, plus she only did it because jay told her to, which makes it worse :/

Anyway, his way of dealing with things does come across as very immature, but if his normal coping mechanism outside of the house is to walk away from things that annoy him until he calms down...well...would it seem as bad if that happened on the outside?

[alex_front2]

I suppose he said it himself when he thought his plan had unravelled. Last night's clip where he said 'ten years work down the drain'.
So yes she is part of his plan. He is worried becaus Faye's Mum nominated him.

Erm, no it refers to the fact Aaron first auditioned for BB in 2002 (BB3) and got into the final 30 group and actually was in pre-show group with both Jade Goody (RIP) and the winner Kate Lawler. He would have been 20/ 21 back then so only a year older than Jade which seems weird to think now. I think Lee the muscular guy who got with Sophie and Adele and and another ex-BB3 HM Tweeted this .

[chuff me dizzy]

My other half sometimes burps in my face & I literally smack him in the mouth. He knows I find it disgusting, which it is, so I can understand Aaron being repulsed by it too...

If someone did it to me they would be picking their molars of their feaces (See I never swore?)

[Kazanne]

I suppose he said it himself when he thought his plan had unravelled. Last night's clip where he said 'ten years work down the drain'.
So yes she is part of his plan. He is worried becaus Faye's Mum nominated him.

When did aaron say "10 years work down the drain" I watch it but must have missed that bit?

[Kazanne]

If someone did it to me they would be picking their molars of their feaces (See I never swore?)

:joker::joker::joker::joker:chuff you should post more often,you always make me laugh

[chuff me dizzy]

:joker::joker::joker::joker:chuff you should post more often,you always make me laugh

Im on my best behaviour ,are you proud of me ? :angel:

[chuff me dizzy]

:joker::joker::joker::joker:chuff you should post more often,you always make me laugh

Kazanne WTF do you have these 2 sha**ing on your sig? Ive just had my tea :yuk:

[jet]

She did know how much it annoyed him though, as when they were sitting burping round the table, he was clearly disgusted...she knew that it would cause a reaction, plus she only did it because jay told her to, which makes it worse :/

Anyway, his way of dealing with things does come across as very immature, but if his normal coping mechanism outside of the house is to walk away from things that annoy him until he calms down...well...would it seem as bad if that happened on the outside?

Not as much. Outside, he wouldn't have been near her, say until the next day. But he was in the house, and she was there, so he should have resolved the situation much sooner. As it was, it made him look bad - as his behaviour often does.

[Vicky.]

Not as much. Outside, he wouldn't have been near her, say until the next day. But he was in the house, and she was there, so he should have resolved the situation much sooner. As it was, it made him look bad - as his behaviour often does.

Oh I agree with this. I just find it hard to understand how people think this is some of the main 'proof' of how badly he treats faye.

[Cromwell1900]

Anyone?

****tumbleweed*********************

I know the feeling :thumbs:

[jet]

I just saw a clip of Aaron in the diary room on OK TV. He's in a bad way. Even though I believe he brought it all on himself, I am beginning to feel sorry for him. It's hard to see someone genuinely hurting that bad.

[Cromwell1900]

I just saw a clip of Aaron in the diary room on OK TV. He's in a bad way. Even though I believe he brought it all on himself, I am beginning to feel sorry for him. It's hard to see someone genuinely hurting that bad.

Yep!

I too feel sorry for him last night on Bbots he looked like a broken man, and that suggests something has gone wrong in BB this year.

If it be a particularly scheming Hm peeing off BB such that they sought revenge i can only guess. But yep its too far.

[Pyramid*]

Yep!

I too feel sorry for him last night on Bbots he looked like a broken man, and that suggests something has gone wrong in BB this year.

If it be a particularly scheming Hm peeing off BB such that they sought revenge i can only guess. But yep its too far.

this is one of the first times I wholeheartedly agree with you. I'm not saying that as an Aaron fan - I'm saying that as a fan of BB - and if any housemate was being targeted in the way Aaron is being - with BB manipulating much to ensure he feels like that: the fact that he himself said in the diary room, "it's obvious BB don't want me to be here".... now that's a comment that many of us on this very forum have said - even non Aaron fans.

I've just watched a clip of Jay speaking with Aaron and considering I really dislike Jay - again, I have to say, Jay came across incredibly sincere and I hope Aaron listened to what Jay said.

The fact that Jem said she would stay in the house if aaron wasn't there - who the hell does she think she is? As for Faye: sorry, but she's loosing all credibility - not that I held her in high esteem.

If she give a damn about Aaron - truly - she'd click on that her own life, and Aaron's, has been a bloody miserable one since Jem walked in - and she's be telling Jem to sod right off and that they'd deal with their own sisterly issues when they both got out of the house.

No wonder Aaron looks completely brow beaten - and he really has done nothing to deserve this crap he is getting.

[Foebane100]

Because he doesn't react well to childishness

[Pyramid*]

Because he doesn't react well to childishness

or.... Vulgarity, bad manners, or drunken females making a show of themselves. Can't say I blame him.

[j9dw]

It's not about pretending he liked it. He can be disgusted and annoyed with her. But you don't normal ignore a person for hours on end because of something childish they did when they were drunk. His reactions are what make him come off looking like he is using her. I don't know of anyone that has really liked someone I know and acted the way he does when something happens he doesn't like. I'd like to believe that's just the type of person he is. But at the same time, it does make it look like he isn't very interested in her when he reacts like that... which makes all his "i really really like you" talk seem like game play at times.

ps: i like aaron and think he really likes her. he's just odd and she's immature... and BB feeds them too much alcohol = troubles.

I've read this thread and everything I've read has added to my personal conclusion that Aaron is an undiagnosed person with Asperger's Syndrome. They often come over as odd, but only because thy don't display the same reaction to things as ordinary people do.

He's not responding to social cues as people would expect. Watch his eye contact, he does less eye contact when he's under stress or in confrontation and to cap it all, the conversation that first got me thinking about it was when he was telling Harry about his obsession with Lego; how he gets excited when a new Lego set comes out and has a whole room of made up Lego models.

His reaction to the burp is classic undiagnosed Asperger's behaviour. If he had been diagnosed, the chances are he would have learnt that an ordinary person wouldn't have reacted in that way, but as it is, it wouldn't occur to him to modify his reaction. He's probably just as confused at Fayes inability to understand his reaction as everyone else is about his apparent over reaction.

I do hope he stays in because I'm going to be watching him in a different light now.

[Pink Pegasus]

As I've mentioned quite a few times, I have never really been a fan of Aaron's.
I find his moodiness and sulks unbearably annoying.
I do think that he has played a game by trying to make himself look like some sort of victim, not a bullying victim, but a "victim" in the sense that he whinged so much about how "dreadful" and "horrific" some of the other housemates are, and how he was just a poor, innocent, "nice" guy who had to put up with living with them all.
I think this was a game and a bit of an act, because I think he played just as big a part in trying to wind up Jay and Anton, but then as soon as they reacted, he would use it as some sort of false proof of what horrible people they were, and went to moan about it in the diary room, whilst acting like a completely innocent party in it all.
At first he had no interest in making peace with Jay, or trying to get along better - as was Jay's suggestion, until he heard all the cheers that Jay got the first week he was up. He suddenly started speaking properly again with Jay after that. I know he did nominate him again after that, but he was much nicer about him, and said that he was getting on better with him etc.
They've had their rivalries for sure, but Jay also seems to be trying his best to comfort Aaron after this nominations twist, so is clearly not the horrible human being that Aaron tried to make him out to be.

Regarding Faye and Aaron, I never really thought too much about whether it was a fake or real relationship. I just found them very annoying with all their bickering, and found both of their moody strops and sulks headwrecking to watch.
When I first heard of this twist I thought it was going to be absolutely awesome. I still think it was a really cool twist idea in theory, but the way it panned out just doesn't seem right to me.
It was unfair that two of the closest people to Jem got to vote, her mum and her boyfriend. It would have been fairer if it had just been one of them, but because it was practically two people connected to the person who likes him least, it was basically like Jem got to have 2 votes and give Aaron 2 nominations instead of 1.
I know that anyone they got for Faye would probably also be linked to Jem, that is one problem with having family in there together I guess. It just might have been fairer if they got one of Faye's mates to nominate instead of her Mum, who was going to side with Jem.

For the first time in the entire series I actually felt really, really, sorry for Aaron. His face and reaction to what was being said seemed like genuine disbelief to me. His fear both in the diary room where he felt like his reputation was in tatters for being falsely accused of leading on or using a young girl like Faye, his hands shaking in the garden. His very pained expression when he went to talk to Faye in the bathroom, and he just didn't know what to say to fix things. He just seemed completely genuinely crushed and heartbroken about the whole thing, and very very fearful that he is being portrayed as horrible to Faye on the outside.

So yes I think he definitely a gameplayer in alot of ways, but after watching all of his reactions to this twist, I think they were genuine shock, and that it was very unfair for him to be targeted so much by such accusations over Faye.
He is unbearable and completely ridiculous at times, such as sulking over the burping, and frosted flakes fight etc. I would dump someone like him in a heartbeat. However despite these things, I think he does hold some sort of affection for Faye, and think that the harsh accusations about his treatment of Faye are unfounded.

I actually think this could possibly work in Aaron's favor vote wise. As someone who normally can't stand him (apart from when he is being witty), I actually really felt for him tonight, and softened towards him slightly. Maybe some other people who are not Aaron fans will feel some sympathy for him too. (I know he has a huge fanbase anyways already so will probably be safe regardless)

[fruit_cake]

As I've mentioned quite a few times, I have never really been a fan of Aaron's.
I find his moodiness and sulks unbearably annoying.
I do think that he has played a game by trying to make himself look like some sort of victim, not a bullying victim, but a "victim" in the sense that he whinged so much about how "dreadful" and "horrific" some of the other housemates are, and how he was just a poor, innocent, "nice" guy who had to put up with living with them all.
I think this was a game and a bit of an act, because I think he played just as big a part in trying to wind up Jay and Anton, but then as soon as they reacted, he would use it as some sort of false proof of what horrible people they were, and went to moan about it in the diary room, whilst acting like a completely innocent party in it all.
At first he had no interest in making peace with Jay, or trying to get along better - as was Jay's suggestion, until he heard all the cheers that Jay got the first week he was up. He suddenly started speaking properly again with Jay after that. I know he did nominate him again after that, but he was much nicer about him, and said that he was getting on better with him etc.
They've had their rivalries for sure, but Jay also seems to be trying his best to comfort Aaron after this nominations twist, so is clearly not the horrible human being that Aaron tried to make him out to be.

Regarding Faye and Aaron, I never really thought too much about whether it was a fake or real relationship. I just found them very annoying with all their bickering, and found both of their moody strops and sulks headwrecking to watch.
When I first heard of this twist I thought it was going to be absolutely awesome. I still think it was a really cool twist idea in theory, but the way it panned out just doesn't seem right to me.
It was unfair that two of the closest people to Jem got to vote, her mum and her boyfriend. It would have been fairer if it had just been one of them, but because it was practically two people connected to the person who likes him least, it was basically like Jem got to have 2 votes and give Aaron 2 nominations instead of 1.
I know that anyone they got for Faye would probably also be linked to Jem, that is one problem with having family in there together I guess. It just might have been fairer if they got one of Faye's mates to nominate instead of her Mum, who was going to side with Jem.

For the first time in the entire series I actually felt really, really, sorry for Aaron. His face and reaction to what was being said seemed like genuine disbelief to me. His fear both in the diary room where he felt like his reputation was in tatters for being falsely accused of leading on or using a young girl like Faye, his hands shaking in the garden. His very pained expression when he went to talk to Faye in the bathroom, and he just didn't know what to say to fix things. He just seemed completely genuinely crushed and heartbroken about the whole thing, and very very fearful that he is being portrayed as horrible to Faye on the outside.

So yes I think he definitely a gameplayer in alot of ways, but after watching all of his reactions to this twist, I think they were genuine shock, and that it was very unfair for him to be targeted so much by such accusations over Faye.
He is unbearable and completely ridiculous at times, such as sulking over the burping, and frosted flakes fight etc. I would dump someone like him in a heartbeat. However despite these things, I think he does hold some sort of affection for Faye, and think that the harsh accusations about his treatment of Faye are unfounded.

I actually think this could possibly work in Aaron's favor vote wise. As someone who normally can't stand him (apart from when he is being witty), I actually really felt for him tonight, and softened towards him slightly. Maybe some other people who are not Aaron fans will feel some sympathy for him too. (I know he has a huge fanbase anyways already so will probably be safe regardless)

I feel the same, my feelings towards him have changed recently

[JetBlackJo]

Does anyone else wonder whether the relatives have voted for Aaron, not for the reasons they gave, but because he is so popular? In that targeting him would make their own relatives/friends have a better chance of winning? Aaron now thinks he is unpopular outside when the reverse is true. It would be a shame if he was forced out because of this twist.

[rk3388]

1. Kissing Maisy and Tom after saying he liked her.
2. Falling out over a burp
3. Making rude comments to her like when she entered he thought "ok."

That is more than enough.

[ChristmasNeeve]

1. Kissing Maisy and Tom after saying he liked her.
2. Falling out over a burp
3. Making rude comments to her like when she entered he thought "ok."

That is more than enough.

1. iirc he kissed Tom -as a dare in a game :rolleyes: - before he had that date with Faye and told her he liked her. And yeah, he said he fancied Faye after she asked him straight out and more or less gave him no option but to say yeah he did (and why wouldn't he fancy her anyway? she's a beautiful girl, what man wouldn't fancy her or Maisy or Louise???) anyway, when he said that yeah he did fancy her, did she say, I fancy you too? No she did not. Which is a bit mean I would think after basically making him say it but then not return the compliment. Infact she came out after the date and told people that she didn't fancy him. So, tbh it looked very much like she was messing him around. He was a free agent, Faye invited Maisy into the bed with her and Aaron, then left and told Aaron to spoon Maisy. Mixed messages? I think so.

2. I agree, the burp incident was silly and Aaron was OTT. Just like when faye nominated him 3 times, got drunk draped herself over Anton, asked him if he had a semi and tried to kiss him. Tit for tat.

3. Rude comments? hardly. How about calling him a geek, saying he was a closet gay? I could go on and could list far ruder things she's said about him then "Ok".

[tonyface]

1. He tried it on with Rebeckah in the first week. (Not shown) Reported by Rebeckah in BOTS, before you say it yes I would rather believe Rebeckah.
2. He spent a week trailing Louise, before he realised that she did not fancy him, saying "she could not understand why all the girls were after him". He still has that glint in his eye whenever he talks to Louise, e.g Burpgate. (He still fancies her, more than Faye)
3. He snogged Tom, wonder what demographic he was appealing to there.....hmmmm
4. He then snogged Maisy, as his next choice for his fake love interest, until, she started to sit on his knee and trail him, and he realised that she was too childish.
5. He then settled for 4th choice, poor Faye, who he knew fancied him all along.
6. Faye has been putty in his hands to give him the attention he wanted. e.g Burpgate, after you have had your tongue down someone's throat, why would a burp near you from her bother you.
7. It just gave him the perfect opportunity to deliver another one of his pompous speeches in the diary room, or play to the camera's.
8. His choice of phrases if you listen, makes it clear he is trying to manipulate people. e.g Jem, getting more votes than Jay...."That really threw me" (oh really).
9. He admitted it to Jem, that he works hard at manipulating people, changing Louise's vote (Fell for he fake flattery from Jem, thats when she sussed him out).
10. Following th initial nominations, did he go over to Faye to try and re-assure her about their relationship, NO, he went to twine to big brother about they did not want him to win, say this wasnt supposed to happen.
11. Now that they are nearing the run in and the sister is out of the way, he has decided to ditch Faye, without so much as a text, deliver another one of his pompous speeches, laced with rhetorical questions for the easily led, trying to switch he focus on Faye for wanting a fancy car, when his own interest is winning the 100K.

etc etc etc.....

Is this evidence, to remove this de-luxe rose tinted specs......I thought so.....


etc etc etc....

[tonyface]

The evidence that he has been playing Faye...

1. He tried it on with Rebeckah in the first week. (Not shown) Reported by Rebeckah in BOTS, before you say it yes I would rather believe Rebeckah.
2. He spent a week trailing Louise, before he realised that she did not fancy him, saying "she could not understand why all the girls were after him". He still has that glint in his eye whenever he talks to Louise, e.g Burpgate. (He still fancies her, more than Faye)
3. He snogged Tom, wonder what demographic he was appealing to there.....hmmmm
4. He then snogged Maisy, as his next choice for his fake love interest, until, she started to sit on his knee and trail him, and he realised that she was too childish.
5. He then settled for 4th choice, poor Faye, who he knew fancied him all along.
6. Faye has been putty in his hands to give him the attention he wanted. e.g Burpgate, after you have had your tongue down someone's throat, why would a burp near you from her bother you.
7. It just gave him the perfect opportunity to deliver another one of his pompous speeches in the diary room, or play to the camera's.
8. His choice of phrases if you listen, makes it clear he is trying to manipulate people. e.g Jem, getting more votes than Jay...."That really threw me" (oh really).
9. He admitted it to Jem, that he works hard at manipulating people, changing Louise's vote (Fell for he fake flattery from Jem, thats when she sussed him out).
10. Following the initial nominations, did he go over to Faye to try and re-assure her about their relationship, NO, he went to twine to big brother about how they did not want him to win, saying this wasnt supposed to happen.
11. Now that they are nearing the run in and the sister is out of the way, he has decided to ditch Faye, without so much as a text, deliver another one of his pompous speeches, laced with rhetorical questions for the easily led, trying to switch the focus on Faye for wanting a fancy car, when his own interest is winning the 100K.

etc etc etc.....

Is this enough evidence, to remove the de-luxe rose tinted Aaron specs......I thought so.....

[fruit_cake]

The evidence that he has been playing Faye...

1. He tried it on with Rebeckah in the first week. (Not shown) Reported by Rebeckah in BOTS, before you say it yes I would rather believe Rebeckah.
2. He spent a week trailing Louise, before he realised that she did not fancy him, saying "she could not understand why all the girls were after him". He still has that glint in his eye whenever he talks to Louise, e.g Burpgate. (He still fancies her, more than Faye)
3. He snogged Tom, wonder what demographic he was appealing to there.....hmmmm
4. He then snogged Maisy, as his next choice for his fake love interest, until, she started to sit on his knee and trail him, and he realised that she was too childish.
5. He then settled for 4th choice, poor Faye, who he knew fancied him all along.
6. Faye has been putty in his hands to give him the attention he wanted. e.g Burpgate, after you have had your tongue down someone's throat, why would a burp near you from her bother you.
7. It just gave him the perfect opportunity to deliver another one of his pompous speeches in the diary room, or play to the camera's.
8. His choice of phrases if you listen, makes it clear he is trying to manipulate people. e.g Jem, getting more votes than Jay...."That really threw me" (oh really).
9. He admitted it to Jem, that he works hard at manipulating people, changing Louise's vote (Fell for he fake flattery from Jem, thats when she sussed him out).
10. Following th initial nominations, did he go over to Faye to try and re-assure her about their relationship, NO, he went to twine to big brother about they did not want him to win, say this wasnt supposed to happen.
11. Now that they are nearing the run in and the sister is out of the way, he has decided to ditch Faye, without so much as a text, deliver another one of his pompous speeches, laced with rhetorical questions for the easily led, trying to switch he focus on Faye for wanting a fancy car, when his own interest is winning the 100K.

etc etc etc.....

Is this enough evidence, to remove the de-luxe rose tinted Aaron specs......I thought so.....

etc etc etc....

:worship:

[Vicky.]

So basically, we are back to kiss-gate, burp-gate and the fact that he changed other peoples nominations in a week where they were allowed to do this...in the hope of giving faye a better chance of staying?

What a monster :eek:

[fruit_cake]

Aaron fans can no longer complain that the argument has not been made, If they choose to ignore it that's different

[alex_front2]

The evidence that he has been playing Faye...

1. He tried it on with Rebeckah in the first week. (Not shown) Reported by Rebeckah in BOTS, before you say it yes I would rather believe Rebeckah.
2. He spent a week trailing Louise, before he realised that she did not fancy him, saying "she could not understand why all the girls were after him". He still has that glint in his eye whenever he talks to Louise, e.g Burpgate. (He still fancies her, more than Faye)
3. He snogged Tom, wonder what demographic he was appealing to there.....hmmmm
4. He then snogged Maisy, as his next choice for his fake love interest, until, she started to sit on his knee and trail him, and he realised that she was too childish.
5. He then settled for 4th choice, poor Faye, who he knew fancied him all along.
6. Faye has been putty in his hands to give him the attention he wanted. e.g Burpgate, after you have had your tongue down someone's throat, why would a burp near you from her bother you.
7. It just gave him the perfect opportunity to deliver another one of his pompous speeches in the diary room, or play to the camera's.
8. His choice of phrases if you listen, makes it clear he is trying to manipulate people. e.g Jem, getting more votes than Jay...."That really threw me" (oh really).
9. He admitted it to Jem, that he works hard at manipulating people, changing Louise's vote (Fell for he fake flattery from Jem, thats when she sussed him out).
10. Following the initial nominations, did he go over to Faye to try and re-assure her about their relationship, NO, he went to twine to big brother about how they did not want him to win, saying this wasnt supposed to happen.
11. Now that they are nearing the run in and the sister is out of the way, he has decided to ditch Faye, without so much as a text, deliver another one of his pompous speeches, laced with rhetorical questions for the easily led, trying to switch the focus on Faye for wanting a fancy car, when his own interest is winning the 100K.

etc etc etc.....

Is this enough evidence, to remove the de-luxe rose tinted Aaron specs......I thought so.....

HE WAS SINGLE WHEN HE SNOGGED MAISY AND TOM. why do people forget this.

Plus Faye made it clear that he wasn;t fanciable in the first week and on the date she managed to get a confession that he fancied her, yet she spent the next few days mocking him, telling him he should come out.

Basically the Anti-Aaron brigade are re-writting facts and claiming now that Aaron cheated on Faye with Maisy and Tom. You can't really make it up.

As for Aaron kissing Tom. Jay kissed Tom, too. But hey, facts and anti-Aaron brigade don't necessarily live in the same postcode!

[Vicky.]

Aaron fans can no longer complain that the argument has not been made, If they choose to ignore it that's different

Yeah, except the majority of that post is BS...but ok

[fruit_cake]

lots of people agree with it though, I don't think it's fair to dismiss it as BS personally

[Vicky.]

Yeah, that tends to happen, people looking for a reason to dislike someone will twist every little thing to make every situation seem worse than it is. Doesnt mean its true ;)

[fruit_cake]

doesn't stop the snowballing rolling and getting bigger either

[connie]

The only way Arron has mess with Fayes head is the fact that he wouldn't do as she asked, like not shaving his beard off or she wouldn't speak to him for 3 days, Arron should do just to have a bit of piece from her nagging,EXAMPLE.:spin:

[connie]

HE WAS SINGLE WHEN HE SNOGGED MAISY AND TOM. why do people forget this.

Plus Faye made it clear that he wasn;t fanciable in the first week and on the date she managed to get a confession that he fancied her, yet she spent the next few days mocking him, telling him he should come out.

Basically the Anti-Aaron brigade are re-writting facts and claiming now that Aaron cheated on Faye with Maisy and Tom. You can't really make it up.

As for Aaron kissing Tom. Jay kissed Tom, too. But hey, facts and anti-Aaron brigade don't necessarily live in the same postcode!

I thought you knew that this is BB it's a GAME even though at times things can get out of hand, like the food situation all over the floor then moan because of hunger thats life, Arron wasn't that petty or childish BB should have stopped it.
And as far as the poison drawfs are concerned hope Faye joins her sister friday.

[tonyface]

HE WAS SINGLE WHEN HE SNOGGED MAISY AND TOM. why do people forget this.

Plus Faye made it clear that he wasn;t fanciable in the first week and on the date she managed to get a confession that he fancied her, yet she spent the next few days mocking him, telling him he should come out.

Basically the Anti-Aaron brigade are re-writting facts and claiming now that Aaron cheated on Faye with Maisy and Tom. You can't really make it up.

As for Aaron kissing Tom. Jay kissed Tom, too. But hey, facts and anti-Aaron brigade don't necessarily live in the same postcode!

If you read point 5, I know he was on the prowl for the fake love interest until he finally settled for Faye.

Also you have to be blind not to see, Jay's kack handed attempts to copy from the maestro, in kissing Tom. And what was all that attempted ham acting up to the camera's all about, he left Louise totally befuddled....There is really no point trying to sway the Aaron minnions because they are the shows main audience, and C5 know it......:dance:

[Parmy]

Without getting into it in too much detail, it's aarons way or the highway.

[flamingGalah!]

Aaron fans can no longer complain that the argument has not been made, If they choose to ignore it that's different

You really are hilarious! Your argument has no basis though & all your 'facts' have been blown to pieces :joker: So please, try again... :xyxwave:

[tonyface]

You really are hilarious! Your argument has no basis though & all your 'facts' have been blown to pieces :joker: So please, try again... :xyxwave:

Please, try and explain away, how all the facts have been blown out of the water......lets see you try...:dance:

More empty rhetoric from comical Aaron fans.

It really is quite disturbing that Aaron like behaviour has become quite acceptable now, in our something for nothing society....:joker:

The one thing that I do admire about Aaron is that he has put in the work, to try and earn the 100K, but in trying to Americanize the show and promote game-playing, I think that C5 will switch a lot of people off the show for good, leaving the usual narrow demographic of people following the show, with the same type of people winning....(Young male eye candy) :dance:

[fruit_cake]

You really are hilarious! Your argument has no basis though & all your 'facts' have been blown to pieces :joker: So please, try again... :xyxwave:

crickey..I wish it were my argument as it was so well put together but I can't take the credit, it was Tony's argument Monsieur Galah!

[flamingGalah!]

Please, try and explain away, how all the facts have been blown out of the water......lets see you try...:dance:

More empty rhetoric from comical Aaron fans.

It really is quite disturbing that Aaron like behaviour has become quite acceptable now, in our something for nothing society....:joker:

The one thing that I do admire about Aaron is that he has put in the work, to try and earn the 100K, but in trying to Americanize the show and promote game-playing, I think that C5 will switch a lot of people off the show for good, leaving the usual narrow demographic of people following the show, with the same type of people winning....(Young male eye candy) :dance:

Because everything you mentioned stll does not point to Aaron 'messing' with Faye! And you have twisted practically everything to suit your own agenda, so yes it has all been blown out of the water...

Methinks your hate for Aaron is clouding your biased judgement... :xyxwave:

[crocs]

We are never going to be on the same page on the matter but I suppose that's the beauty of it.

[tonyface]

Because everything you mentioned stll does not point to Aaron 'messing' with Faye! And you have twisted practically everything to suit your own agenda, so yes it has all been blown out of the water...

Methinks your hate for Aaron is clouding your biased judgement... :xyxwave:

What not even an attempt at explaining your arguments versus the points/facts that I stated......of course not.
I wonder who's judgement is really clouded.....:joker:

I agree with previous post, never going to agree, but IMO the ladies have decided who they support based simply on who they fancy the most.:dance:

a) The suave, charmer.
b) The Geordie bit of rough.
c) The independently wealthy Yuppee

:dance:

[flamingGalah!]

What not even an attempt at explaining your arguments versus the points/facts that I stated......of course not.
I wonder who's judgement is really clouded.....:joker:

I agree with previous post, never going to agree, but IMO the ladies have decided who they support based simply on who they fancy the most.:dance:

a) The suave, charmer.
b) The Geordie bit of rough.
c) The independently wealthy Yuppee

:dance:

Erm if you REALLY want me to go back to every single point you tried to make I will, but they were all codswallop...

And no my judgement isn't clouded at all, I just say what I see...

And lastly I'm not even female, so that blows another of your 'theories' out if the water... :xyxwave:

[tonyface]

Erm if you REALLY want me to go back to every single point you tried to make I will, but they were all codswallop...

And no my judgement isn't clouded at all, I just say what I see...

And lastly I'm not even female, so that blows another of your 'theories' out if the water... :xyxwave:

Nice to see that you have raised the white flag....actually that is what I asked in the first place for you to go through and make your argument point by point since you are so insistant that they are all codswallop.

I was very careful to state only facts.......but feel free to make a*se of yourself....::dance: