Aaron really is the only deserving winner of the show

[Novo]

Love him or hate him we all have an opinion on him and i don't think i ever seen a housemate talked about so much in a series then Aaron has this year.. he is running the whole show at the minute with Anton gone and some people might say he sulks but then after all that he produces great moments out of no where like the singing tonight and whole rivalry with the Wolfpack which has been the center story of this big brother along with his romance with Faye.. I like Harry but even if he won the series it wouldn't have near as much impact like if Aaron won.. and as for Alex she is nice enough but that should not be enough to win big brother she has gone under the radar far to much along with tom.. Aaron has gave this show his all and for that deserves it

I am pretty confident Alex will win the show but most of us will know who carried Big Brother 12 when it is all said and done

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[Mystic Mock]

I agree Novo.

[StraightEdge695]

i agree =)

[MTVN]

Jay or Aaron for me (would obviously prefer Jay), as much as I like Harry he hasn't been as a big a character and provoked so strong a response as those two

[Kazanne]

Love him or hate him we all have an opinion on him and i don't think i ever seen a housemate talked about so much in a series then Aaron has this year.. he is running the whole show at the minute with Anton gone and some people might say he sulks but then after all that he produces great moments out of no where like the singing tonight and whole rivalry with the Wolfpack which has been the center story of this big brother along with his romance with Faye.. I like Harry but even if he won the series it wouldn't have near as much impact like if Aaron won.. and as for Alex she is nice enough but that should not be enough to win big brother she has gone under the radar far to much along with tom.. Aaron has gave this show his all and for that deserves it

I am pretty confident Alex will win the show but most of us will know who carried Big Brother 12 when it is all said and done

http://i55.tinypic.com/14c7f3c.gif

:joker::joker::joker:Love that siggy Nova:joker:

[King Gizzard]

I just love how theyre all seriously looking at his dance moves as if he's some sort of oracle in that gif :joker:

[Niamh.]

:worship:

[Visage]

I hope he does win the show.

[Colbert-Bump]

Aaron vs Jay would be a great final 2, obviously the 'Chosen One' will be a winner.

[flamingGalah!]

I agree, Aaron for the win! :dance:

[vesavius]

Love him or hate him we all have an opinion on him and i don't think i ever seen a housemate talked about so much in a series then Aaron has this year..



I actually have an opinion on all the HMs... not sure that qualifies them all to win :puzzled:

and didn't the stat breakdown on BOTS show that Aaron wasn't even the most talked about this year, let alone ever... I can't remember properly tbh.

[JTM45]

I concur!!!

Alex is nice and stuff and she's said about five funny things but Aaron's worked his ass off in there to get this far against a constant barrage of negative editing and biased tasks/nominations interference.

I actually think he's got a very good chance of winning and if anything i think BB's interference has probably heped him.
I think people will be surprised when Alex gets less votes than some people are expecting.

[Novo]

I actually have an opinion on all the HMs... not sure that qualifies them all to win :puzzled:

and didn't the stat breakdown on BOTS show that Aaron wasn't even the most talked about this year, let alone ever... I can't remember properly tbh.

That also showed Alex was more fanciable then Louise and Faye at one point so pipe down berty

[kisywisy]

you have a short memory if you think aaron has been the most talked about hm from any series

i hope jay wins. for me, he's been the most fun to watch (in my opinion)

[vesavius]

That also showed Alex was more fanciable then Louise and Faye at one point so pipe down berty

So your opinion against stats professionally gathered from across social media then?

hoookaaay :joker:

[Samuel.]

Yes. No one else even comes close.

Honestly believe the online/forum favourite will win it this year with Facebook voting, and, as we all know, Aaron's walking all the polls with over half the vote.

[Babschap]

Yep, Aaron should win, by far the best HM

[Vicky.]

So your opinion against stats professionally gathered from across social media then?

hoookaaay :joker:

You believe the stats on BBBOTS are real and 'professionally gathered'?!

They said 20m people were talking about Anton FGS :joker:

Thats like 20x more than the amount that watch the show :D

[JTM45]

You're a Vinnie Jones fan as well as a Jay fan then? :yuk:

[Samuel.]

Those online stats on BOTS are so ridiculous and inaccurate. Load of rubbish.

[Mystic Mock]

Plus BBBOTS are so out of touch with the public.

[Niamh.]

you have a short memory if you think aaron has been the most talked about hm from any series

i hope jay wins. for me, he's been the most fun to watch (in my opinion)

Kisywisy! :amazed:

[Brother Leon]

Anton was the original deserving winner........he has now passed that down to Aaron however no doubt

[JTM45]

Those online stats are so ridiculous and inaccurate. Load of rubbish.

They totally are!
Last night because his 'stats' didn't match up with what actually happened in the eviction he said he had 're-worked' them to come up with the correct outcome.

Sounds so scientific doesn't it :joker:

[vesavius]

You believe the stats on BBBOTS are real?!

They said 20m people were talking about Anton FGS :joker:

Thats like 20x more than the amount that watch the show :D

let me weigh things up...

The stats gathered professionally on behalf of BB and shown on BOTS... vs... the opinions of individuals on a niche forum that has a strong Aaron clique...

Hrm... tough one that. :joker:



Oh, and what show was that Vicky? Don't disbelieve you, ofc, but I would like to see it and how it was presented... to see it in context etc. Links are always good :)

[vesavius]

Those online stats on BOTS are so ridiculous and inaccurate. Load of rubbish.

Proof?

I assume you have gathered your own set of stats or something?

[JTM45]

How many times does it need to be proved that those 'stats' are bull**** and made up 5 minutes before they go on air ?

[Toxic]

I wouldn't mind him winning, he has been the stand out housemate of the series, but I do like Alex too though

[vesavius]

How many times does it need to be proved that those 'stats' are bull**** and made up 5 minutes before they go online ?

So you can link some of that proof here then?

I always have an open mind about things if they are supported and not just empty claims :)

[rusticgal]

Yes he does deserve to win the show....he really has had all elements thrown at him and without him this BB would not be so great.
It cannot be easy in that house...not knowing with what is going on or being said or how you are being edited and I believe Aaron has taken the biggest bashing.

He soooooo deserves the 100,000... he has been loyal but not followed the pack..he doesnt swear and never loses his temper....he takes himself out of a situation if its likely to end in an arguement and thats so commendable.:dance:

[JTM45]

The guy diss-proved his own stats last night! Do you not watch it ?

[Samuel.]

Proof?

I assume you have gathered your own set of stats or something?

It's all calculated by words said in sentences along with housemates names. Zero context taken into account, how it was said or who was saying it. It may give a very, very general idea, but nowhere near accurate enough to be used to back up arguments with.

[Vicky.]

let me weigh things up...

The stats gathered professionally on behalf of BB and shown on BOTS... vs... the opinions of individuals on a niche forum that has a strong Aaron clique...

Hrm... tough one that. :joker:



Oh, and what show was that Vicky? Don't disbelieve you, ofc, but I would like to see it and how it was presented... to see it in context etc. Links are always good :)

Was the show after he had been evicted IIRC. I do not remember the exact episode, why would I?! :laugh:

The bit in bold is just hilarious.

[MTVN]

You're a Vinnie Jones fan as well as a Jay fan then? :yuk:

Vinnie was a legend

[Kazanne]

QUOTE=Novo;4691463]That also showed Alex was more fanciable then Louise and Faye at one point so pipe down berty[/QUOTE]

:joker::joker::joker::joker:@ berty

[Vicky.]

The guy diss-proved his own stats last night! Do you not watch it ?

:joker: I missed that.

Had to happen eventually though, the guy talks utter rubbish. I thought everyone knew the 'stats' were just made up :D

[Novo]

Proof?

I assume you have gathered your own set of stats or something?

And i take it you have proof that they are actually real? give it up:spin:

[vesavius]

And i take it you have proof that they are actually real? give it up:spin:

I have the choice of believe them, or you.

Forgive me if it isn't, based on your typical post content, you :joker:

[Samuel.]

Are we really questioning the integrity of such a highbrow, factual show like BOTS?

[vesavius]

:joker: I missed that.

Had to happen eventually though, the guy talks utter rubbish. I thought everyone knew the 'stats' were just made up :D

that's because the stat guy wasn't even on the show last night?

No proof then, just an assumption and insistence by you?

[vesavius]

Was the show after he had been evicted IIRC. I do not remember the exact episode, why would I?! :laugh:


Just seems you are basing everything you say off vague memories and assumptions that suit how you want things to be then.

[vesavius]

Are we really questioning the integrity of such a highbrow, factual show like BOTS?

I guess we are comparing the integrity of that one part of the show against the integrity of certain posters here...

But I should probably stop and bow out of the thread before I get modded.

It's going around in circles now anyhow, seeing as no one wants to actually provide any links to back up their opinions :/

:xyxwave:

[Vicky.]

Just seems you are basing everything you say off vague memories and assumptions that suit how you want things to be then.

Its not a vague memory, I remember it very clearly. I remember a thread about it on here too actually.

Edit. http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/forums/showthread.php?t=187874.

So...do you honestly think that 20m people were talking about anton...even though the show gets like 1.5m at the most viewers? :D

[Locke.]

Any of Harry, Faye, Aaron or Jay will do.

[Truth Teller]

Agree.

[vesavius]

Its not a vague memory, I remember it very clearly. I remember a thread about it on here too actually.

Edit. http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/forums/showthread.php?t=187874.

So...do you honestly think that 20m people were talking about anton...even though the show gets like 1.5m at the most viewers? :D

I know I said I was gonna leave the thread, but your post demanded a response Vicky, so... :)

http://www.channel5.com/shows/big-brothers-bit-on-the-side/episodes/episode-39-50

At around 18mins in.

This is what I mean about context... you obviously remembered the thread more then the show. This is why I asked for a link.

The '20 million comment' was '20 million people around the world have seen the name Anton AND Big Brother'... it was talking about 'reach' ('reach' as used in the advertising sense).

Do I think the show of 1.5 million has a global reach of 20 million people through FB, Twitter, and websites? I actually do, yes. This does not mean 20million have watched it, or are even interested, obviously, but that wasn't what he was saying.

[Vicky.]

:laugh2: OK whatever you say.

[Locke.]

vesavius is right though, Anton does have 20 million fans around the world :)

And even one hater in Afghanistan :)

[vesavius]

:laugh2: OK whatever you say.

Why do you laugh at people that disprove what you say in a reasonable manner instead of just answering in a reasonable way?

I thought we were just chatting, but you seem to want to be insulting, demeaning, and rude :/

[DoM-h]

Yeah. Ever since Rebeckah left he basically IS all the show has been about.

[vesavius]

vesavius is right though, Anton does have 20 million fans around the world :)


Not exactly what i was saying, but hell... it's closer to the truth then most of the replies in this thread so go for it :joker:

[Josy]

What an amazing thread.

[MartianMark]

I concur!!!

Alex is nice and stuff and she's said about five funny things but Aaron's worked his ass off in there to get this far against a constant barrage of negative editing and biased tasks/nominations interference.

I actually think he's got a very good chance of winning and if anything i think BB's interference has probably heped him.
I think people will be surprised when Alex gets less votes than some people are expecting.

You took the words right out of my mouth JTM. I said this before, Alex is a sweet girl, but hardly deserving of winning Big Brother. Aaron has had everything but the kitchen sink thrown at him and has undoubtedly been the season's most interesting and entertaining HM. He has an excellent chance of winning and I truly believe he has the support to do it. It would definitively be well deserved win in my book.

[Jords]

Hes 1 of the most overrated HMs imo

I loved him at the start, but he lost it after Week 4-5 but people are reluctant changing their favourites after so long and carried on the whole saga.

Hes still 1 of the most entertaining HMs, but Alex and Harry arnt half as annoying as him and thoroughly deserve it more. Id even add Faye to the mixture as well.

Aaron deserves 4th place, unless he sorts himself out over the last 2 weeks or so.

[vesavius]

Hes 1 of the most overrated HMs imo

I loved him at the start, but he lost it after Week 4-5 but people are reluctant changing their favourites after so long and carried on the whole saga.

Hes still 1 of the most entertaining HMs, but Alex and Harry arnt half as annoying as him and thoroughly deserve it more. Id even add Faye to the mixture as well.

Aaron deserves 4th place, unless he sorts himself out over the last 2 weeks or so.

I wouldn't mind 1. Alex, 2. Harry, 3. Faye at all tbh.

[Bluerang1]

I guess but I don't want him to. Him winning would ruin BB for me because he was a majority favourite for some odd reason from week 2 making the winner decided before the show has even ended.

[rk3388]

he is only talked about because they only focus on him! I personally find it boring him and faye storyline. We need more about alex and tom!

I literally have to start fast forwarding through the aaron parts cause it makes me snore

[rk3388]

I guess but I don't want him to. Him winning would ruin BB for me because he was a majority favourite for some odd reason from week 2 making the winner decided before the show has even ended.

this. he is the chosen one. Channel 5 know what theyre doing

[Jords]

he is only talked about because they only focus on him! I personally find it boring him and faye storyline. We need more about alex and tom!

I literally have to start fast forwarding through the aaron parts cause it makes me snore

This is true also. Hes been helped a lot.

[rk3388]

Hes 1 of the most overrated HMs imo

I loved him at the start, but he lost it after Week 4-5 but people are reluctant changing their favourites after so long and carried on the whole saga.

Hes still 1 of the most entertaining HMs, but Alex and Harry arnt half as annoying as him and thoroughly deserve it more. Id even add Faye to the mixture as well.

Aaron deserves 4th place, unless he sorts himself out over the last 2 weeks or so.

This! though i do not like him, i would like either him or faye make the final, not both ( or they'll play up on the showmance )

[paper-cut-exit]

I also think the guy is overrated - I find him rather dull tbh + I find him a bit patronising at times.

[MTVN]

I actually think the 20m comment about Anton is feasible tbh, social media has transformed television to make such a thing possible, there has been times this year when BB related stuff has been "trending" on Twitter so it's not that unimaginable that so many people could have at least heard of Anton

Edit - ah I didn't know the threads moved on from there, hadn't realised there was a third page :laugh:

[InOne]

Faye deserves to win.

But wouldn't mind Aaron winning

[Pink Pegasus]

I don't really want him to win.
I feel sympathy for him over the accusations that were thrown at him in the nomination twist, and I have enjoyed the times when he has been witty and fun-loving. The majority of the time though he has just annoyed the hell out of me, and I could just never warm to him fully.

There is nobody who I really, really, REALLY want to win.
Jay and Harry are my favourites just out of this bunch.
However I have had favourite housemates from other BB series who I have preferred and warmed to far more than Jay or Harry.

Despite being my favourites, Jay and Harry both have traits that annoy me at times. Jay can be a little cocky and sometimes says things that make him seem too worried/aware about the public's perception.
Harry can be just down a downright patronising snob at times, and can also do/say things to annoy people but can't take it if they give it back.
(Aside from these traits, I find Jay and Harry my favorites to watch, and I think that both have very good hearts,and I find all the hate from anti Jay sides a bit silly at times. It's just too over the top.)

Alex seems to be a very, very nice girl, and can be kinda funny, but that's about it. I've seen no other sides to her personality, and she has never faced the public even once.

Tom, I actually quite like and also find funny at times. I like that he can be very fiery, except he then goes too far by physically threatening people which I dislike. He also has never faced the public vote, and has not really been a central character in the show.

Louise, I've started liking her a bit more recently, but still find her too boring to win the show.

Faye, I feel sorry for all the upset she has been going through since that nomination twist, and felt really bad for her when she was crying after her Mum's nominations. For most of the series though, I have just found her overly irritating when drunk, but the rest of the time a little dull.

So I don't really care hugely who wins at the minute, but if there was no eviction this week, and if I could pick a final line up, at the minute it would be something like this.

1st: Jay/ Harry
2nd: Jay/Harry/Aaron (I wouldn't really be pissed if Aaron came 2nd)
3rd: Aaron/Harry
4th: Faye/Tom
5th: Faye/Tom
6th: Louise/Alex
7th: Louise/Alex

I know that just looks like a complete mess of a line up!:blush:
I'm basically trying to say I would like Jay or Harry to win.
I would also be ok with Jay or Harry coming second as long as one of them won. I would prefer at least one of them to beat Aaron.
If either Jay or Harry won, I also would be ok with Aaron coming second.
If Jay and Harry came 1st and 2nd I would want Aaron third.
If Jay came first and Aaron came second, Harry would have to be third, (although I would prefer him higher up). I want Jay in the top 2.
I think Faye or Tom should come either 4th or 5th. (Order not important)
I think Louise or Alex should come either 6th or 7th. (Order not important)

As it stands due to this crap and unfair eviction coming up, one of the housemates from my list will be gone.
I think it will be either Jay or Harry who is going.

If Jay goes, I want either Harry or Aaron to win and the remaining one of them to come second.

If Harry goes, I want Jay to win and Aaron to come 2nd.

I definitely want Aaron to do well (2nd or 3rd), because despite not being a huge fan of his, he has played the game well and also survived many evictions. I would just prefer someone who I actually liked the most to be the overall winner.

I have a feeling Aaron has this in the bag though. He has a huge fanbase, and I can see him winning. I would prefer he didn't, but I won't be hugely disappointed if he does, because he has being better than a lot of the more boring housemates like Louise etc.

Of course my opinions on all this could change over the coming days and final week. I can go off housemates fairly quickly if they do something bad enough, and I can also start to like other housemates a lot more if I start to see them in a new light, or they do something very nice.

[Jords]

#1 - Alex/Harry/Faye
#2 - Alex/Harry/Faye
#3 - Alex/Harry/Faye
#4 - Aaron/Tom/Louise
#5 - Tom/Louise
#6 - Tom/Louise/Jay
#7 - Jay/Aaron

[rsefitpro2011]

I am reallly confused by the general opinion of Aaron. On the internet, He's very popular the guy tops every single online poll, and he's not just been topping the polls, hes been in total command. When it comes to the vote to saves he's come out on top on each and every occasion (up to now anyhow).

However I look at some posts regarding Aaron and he's being slated left right and centre?

The one thing for certain is that he is without question the most talked about housemate of the series?. If the voting was based on the mos talked about housemate and the one whos done the most then Aaron would win!

However the shows based on whos the nicest, funniest, and least offensive person, and with that in mind I really can't see past Alex!

[jyunga]

There's no way Anton has 20million fans world wide. You realize the view audience of BBUK including around the world is still probably less the 2million. Even with twitter and social media it doesn't make any sense that 18 million people more then the view audience would be a fan of a random guy from BBUK.

IMO Anton has less then a million fans easily. Less then half a million... and probably less then 100k fans.

[vesavius]

There's no way Anton has 20million fans world wide. You realize the view audience of BBUK including around the world is still probably less the 2million. Even with twitter and social media it doesn't make any sense that 18 million people more then the view audience would be a fan of a random guy from BBUK.

IMO Anton has less then a million fans easily. Less then half a million... and probably less then 100k fans.

No one said he had 20 million 'fans'... (except Locke, who is obviously just having a laugh). That would be ridiculous. Re read the post where I explain :rolleyes:

[vesavius]

I actually think the 20m comment about Anton is feasible tbh, social media has transformed television to make such a thing possible, there has been times this year when BB related stuff has been "trending" on Twitter so it's not that unimaginable that so many people could have at least heard of Anton

Edit - ah I didn't know the threads moved on from there, hadn't realised there was a third page :laugh:

Exactly MTVN.

A lot of people don't get what 'reach' means... it dosen't make them fans or watchers of Anton or BB, it just means they have been exposed to the names.

Most folks that Twitter, as an example, have 100+ followers. It wouldn't take long for 1.5 million to become 20 million views of the names Anton and BBover the course of a week.

I think also a lot of folks don't get how easy and accurate it is to track the travel and density of information of info across the net with the right software either so they just dismiss it as 'nonsense witchcraft' (especially when it is saying something they don't agree with that based on their personal experience of small niche forums).

[Roy Mars III]

Yes, he does. Great thread, glad to see everybody in the thread agrees as well.

[ozzyshaggah]

the only thing pathetic little sooky boy aaron deserves is to be tossed out on friday night

[fruit_cake]

in order of deserving to win the show, in terms of putting one's self on the line and giving out as much as possible, I would say it was

Faye
Aaron
Jay
Harry
Tom
Louise
Alex

[chuff me dizzy]

LOVE Alex and Harry, but after all the cr*p Aaron has had to put up with I truly hop he does win

[Tourmaline]

Agree with the OP. Aaron to win

[robb]

this. he is the chosen one. Channel 5 know what theyre doing

Do they? There are less than 1.5 miilion viewing, a tiny percentage are voting, and only a percentage OF THOSE are voting/liking Aaron. This hardly makes him Brian Dowling Or Jade Goody material! . :joker:

Most of his problems are his own making. Jem took a lot of flak but she was only being brave enough to say in front of him what others inside and outside the house thought of him before she even got there. And both Faye AND Maisy nominated him....Faye more than once!! Why is it all everybody else's fault?
Jay...Faye...Jem....Anton.....Maisy...Tom.....who else you wanna blame?? :nono:

[Beso]

I must say I am delighted for Aaron.

Imagine spending ten years trying to get on big brother to finally get on when it's on c5, when it's the worst big brother there has ever been, when the viewing figures are at an all time low, when you have made yourself out to be a control freak, hypocrite, sulking cry baby, old woman, nasty and spiteful. not to mention fake and uncaring.

Yes if Aaron wins it will be very very apt for this years big brother..some might say the final nail in the coffin.:joker:

[Novo]

I must say I am delighted for Aaron.

Imagine spending ten years trying to get on big brother to finally get on when it's on c5, when it's the worst big brother there has ever been, when the viewing figures are at an all time low, when you have made yourself out to be a control freak, hypocrite, sulking cry baby, old woman, nasty and spiteful. not to mention fake and uncaring.

Yes if Aaron wins it will be very very apt for this years big brother..some might say the final nail in the coffin.:joker:

Some might say it will be the time Big Brother reached its golden moment

[dyfed]

The amount that has been thrown at Aaron,he deserves to be in the final,as much as it goes against all my principles on manners and behaver.....Jay has been the one who has shocked me with his disgusting ways,not knowing what he will do next,in a perverted way,it's entertaining (i think ).
So my vote goes to ,Aaron and Jay, both have put themselves out there,warts and all...

[dyfed]

Some might say it will be the time Big Brother reached its golden moment
Also if he wins,C5 would have been sent a message,things don't always go the way you want them to, even when you edit and manipulate HM feelings,so let the people speak and vote for Aaron.........I so want to stick it to BB/C5....

[BigBrotherfan4ever]

Aaron is the most deserving winner in my opinion, he has been the most talked about HM this year on all the forums, also every times he has been up for eviction, he top the votes, in my opinion that speaks volumes.

Aaron to WIN:hugesmile:

[alex_front2]

I like Aaron because

1) After my fav Mark left he's the only one I find remotely entertaining on a regular basis
2) He gives viewers something good or bad to talk about eg peeing standing up trended a bit on Twitter
3) Yes, he has a show-mance with Faye but actually doesn't really need it for AT the way Louise and Jay do
4) He handles things in a random way that I wouldn't eg diving under the duvet when he came under fire for being a single man and kissing *gasp* Maisy, which makes him stand out from typical 'funtime franky' type male housemates
5) He has the best one-liners and wittiest quotes

http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showthread.php?t=1533492

6) His singing and dancing this week have been legendary. It's nice to see loads of Jay and Alex fans admit that his cringy singing has been one of the highlights of the whole series
7) He exposed Jay's freezer antics to the public in a classy way
8) He didn't pander to Rebeckah's flirty ways on launch night
9) He dealt with Jay's wannabe alpha male 'I've shagged 1000 women' boasts by saying he hasn't had sex in 7 years
10) His DR entries good or bad are always watchable - when did Tom last have a good DR entry???
11) He doesn't need a secret task to make the HL - the producers and editors probably struggle to cut footage out
12) He's the only feminist in the house, scolding Anton and Jay's misogyny - not even the women did this. Sure Louise and Alex sculked in the background about sexism but they let Anton get away with it. So much for girl power
13) He;s insightful
14) He's intelligent - even though he knows he has to play it down to appeal to the masses (nobody likes a smart arse)
15) He actually loves the show unlike Louise who is using it to become the new Jordan
16) He's unpredictable and EVEN JAY wisely realises he's difficult to read and that's why he's an awesome HM
17) He's been badly treated by BB and has dealt with this well. Again, he's smart and knows he's being treated like crap
18) He knows Alex is playing dumb and is gently undermining this, without destroying her game plan
19) He is fully aware that Faye slags him off behind his back, nominates him, flirted with Anton but has dealt with this with equanimity. I'd dumped her ASAP
20) He tolerates Tom always demanding hugs and kisses without having the urge to slap him
21) Aaron has been involved in nearly ever drama (bar winegate)
22) If you took Aaron out of the equation we'd have to see more of Tom, Louise and Alex on HL show *shudders*