The oh - so Loving Faye and Aaron 'Romance'....

[jet]

IMO Aaron wanted to have a relationship in the house for whatever reason. At first he fancied Louise, but she likes a mans man. He wasn’t sure whether to go for Faye or Maisy and when he tried it on with Maisy that blew up in his face and she obviously wasn’t that interested anyway. That left Faye, who DID fancy him. Alright then, Faye it is...
But it was obvious from the start that there was no spark on Aaron’s part. Can you truly say that there is any genuine passion, or romance, or loving affection on Aaron’s part? He’s about as passionate and romantic towards her as a dead herring. He looks at her as a possible girlfriend so coldly and dispassionately. She burped - take off 10 points. She wants kids and a Range Rover - take off 50 points.
If you care deeply for someone you comfort them when they are suffering (Jem leaving) - but he was all ‘oh she told me not to speak to her’.) Get things in PERSPECTIVE man. At the worst, he’s a callous selfish B******; at best he’s a childish immature limp noodle. And if you care for someone you are delighted when they are happy, you don’t start cynically thinking about their ‘gameplan’ - unless you have one yourself and that’s all you really think about.
I think Faye is a very emotional and needy person, and most of her moods where a result of Aaron’s coldness towards her, the lack of nice little romantic gestures that are a part and parcel of a man wooing a women, and a total lack of mutual understanding between them. She seen how Jay was with Lou and probably longed for some little thing, however small, that would show that he really thought she was desirable and cared for her.
Apart from when they went to bed at night, they rarely sat and had a normal conversation, let alone cuddled or touched each other affectionately. It was either Faye in a mood or Aaron in a strop and not talking to her for some stupid reason. He seems a very closed - off and self centered person, and I don’t know how any relationship could survive that - certainly not when the girl is as young as Faye is compared to him.
I’m not an Aaron fan, obviously, and not really a Faye fan either, but I feel for her. She needs to dump him pronto, for the girl has had a horrible time with not only her cow of a sister but her so - called ‘boyfriend’ messing with her head, intentionally or not. Maybe the best thing that could happen to her is being evicted on Friday and getting away from Aaron, though I would rather see HIM go. He won’t though - that kind of emotionally stunted man holds a strange fascination for many women, unfortunately. (If they ever actually got involved with him, I wonder how THEY would fare!)

[headaball]

Do us a favour and make that your last post.

[jet]

Do us a favour and make that your last post.

Why, did it hit a raw spot?

[headaball]

It was 'limp noodle' that got to me. I felt like smashing the screen.

[jet]

It was 'limp noodle' that got to me. I felt like smashing the screen.

Oh dear. :whistle:

[MartianMark]

Do us a favour and make that your last post.

http://www.postsmile.net/img/19/1968.gif THIS ^^

Thanks for your thoughts. For my response, I would be remiss in my duty if I did not tell you to. . .

VOTE FOR AARON!

[jet]

http://www.postsmile.net/img/19/1968.gif THIS ^^

Thanks for your thoughts. For my response, I would be remiss in my duty if I did not tell you to. . .

VOTE FOR AARON!

Not a chance. I'll be voting for the adorable ALEX!

[Kazelle]

IMO Aaron wanted to have a relationship in the house for whatever reason. At first he fancied Louise, but she likes a mans man. He wasn’t sure whether to go for Faye or Maisy and when he tried it on with Maisy that blew up in his face and she obviously wasn’t that interested anyway. That left Faye, who DID fancy him. Alright then, Faye it is...
But it was obvious from the start that there was no spark on Aaron’s part. Can you truly say that there is any genuine passion, or romance, or loving affection on Aaron’s part? He’s about as passionate and romantic towards her as a dead herring. He looks at her as a possible girlfriend so coldly and dispassionately. She burped - take off 10 points. She wants kids and a Range Rover - take off 50 points.
If you care deeply for someone you comfort them when they are suffering (Jem leaving) - but he was all ‘oh she told me not to speak to her’.) Get things in PERSPECTIVE man. At the worst, he’s a callous selfish B******; at best he’s a childish immature limp noodle. And if you care for someone you are delighted when they are happy, you don’t start cynically thinking about their ‘gameplan’ - unless you have one yourself and that’s all you really think about.
I think Faye is a very emotional and needy person, and most of her moods where a result of Aaron’s coldness towards her, the lack of nice little romantic gestures that are a part and parcel of a man wooing a women, and a total lack of mutual understanding between them. She seen how Jay was with Lou and probably longed for some little thing, however small, that would show that he really thought she was desirable and cared for her.
Apart from when they went to bed at night, they rarely sat and had a normal conversation, let alone cuddled or touched each other affectionately. It was either Faye in a mood or Aaron in a strop and not talking to her for some stupid reason. He seems a very closed - off and self centered person, and I don’t know how any relationship could survive that - certainly not when the girl is as young as Faye is compared to him.
I’m not an Aaron fan, obviously, and not really a Faye fan either, but I feel for her. She needs to dump him pronto, for the girl has had a horrible time with not only her cow of a sister but her so - called ‘boyfriend’ messing with her head, intentionally or not. Maybe the best thing that could happen to her is being evicted on Friday and getting away from Aaron, though I would rather see HIM go. He won’t though - that kind of emotionally stunted man holds a strange fascination for many women, unfortunately. (If they ever actually got involved with him, I wonder how THEY would fare!)


It's strange how people see things so very differently. I see that it was Faye who wanted a relationship, she started out trying to get Jay but when it was clear he wasn't interested she immediately set her sights on Aaron. Remember the dilemma she was in, trying to decide whether to take Jay or Aaron on the romantic meal?
She more or less tortured the poor guy into saying he fancied her most in the house, she was biding her time, in my opinion.
After the kiss with Maisy, Faye was in there like a rat up a drainpipe. I feel Faye's insecurities led her to believe she hadn't a cat in hells chance of winning the show without a BB romance, she's forced the issue from day one.
She obviously comes from a very controlling family and she's chosen the wrong guy to try and control. They're soooo wrong for each other it's laughable but I think it's Faye that's messed with Aaron's head and it's Faye that shows no concern for him, it's all about Faye.

[luminoussun]

You have a warped mermory
Maisey got in bed with aaron and faye and instead of getting out when faye did she stayed and got it on with aaron..But that was it regarding them.But aaron and faye was already getting close or she would'nt of been in bed with him in the first place.
I think maisey done this because she wanted attention and likes to prove to herself she can get whoever she wants.But in reality she is a slapper

[Jords]

e_e

[jet]

They're soooo wrong for each other it's laughable

I agree with you on that score. How come the Lord, Master of all he surveys hadn't the intelligence to know this from very early on? Strange, that.

[Kazanne]

Why, did it hit a raw spot?

No,it's just the same old,same old and tbh is very boring now:sleep::sleep::sleep:your opinion is yours, ours is ours,I'm not watching BB to disect the relationships,It's quite obvious,Faye and Aaron should just be friends,who in their right mind would want to get involved with the palmers?

[Ammi]

No,it's just the same old,same old and tbh is very boring now:sleep::sleep::sleep:your opinion is yours, ours is ours,I'm not watching BB to disect the relationships,It's quite obvious,Faye and Aaron should just be friends,who in their right mind would want to get involved with the palmers?

..Kazanne, looking at Aaron's face when they hugged last night..I'm worried he won't have the energy to get through the next two weeks.....the Palmer family are sucking him dry..and Faye continues to do so..he doesn't know which way is up with that girl...she needs to go tonight so he can have any chance of enjoying his last few weeks..

[Kazanne]

..Kazanne, looking at Aaron's face when they hugged last night..I'm worried he won't have the energy to get through the next two weeks.....the Palmer family are sucking him dry..and Faye continues to do so..he doesn't know which way is up with that girl...she needs to go tonight so he can have any chance of enjoying his last few weeks..

I agree Ammi,he looks so sad most of the time,it's lovely when he is playing around with the others and having a laugh,but Faye always manages to spoil it for him and turn it round to being his fault,for that very reason,I hope she goes tonight,I have never voted for Faye and never will.Fingers crossed aaron is safe tonight:xyxwave:

[Ammi]

I agree Ammi,he looks so sad most of the time,it's lovely when he is playing around with the others and having a laugh,but Faye always manages to spoil it for him and turn it round to being his fault,for that very reason,I hope she goes tonight,I have never voted for Faye and never will.Fingers crossed aaron is safe tonight:xyxwave:

Yes, I think he will be safe..I'm doing my bit anyway..for him and Harry....I just hope the last of the Palmers will be off back to her man hating Miss Haversham world..and leave the poppet alone..

[vesavius]

IMO Aaron wanted to have a relationship in the house for whatever reason. At first he fancied Louise, but she likes a mans man. He wasn’t sure whether to go for Faye or Maisy and when he tried it on with Maisy that blew up in his face and she obviously wasn’t that interested anyway. That left Faye, who DID fancy him. Alright then, Faye it is...
But it was obvious from the start that there was no spark on Aaron’s part. Can you truly say that there is any genuine passion, or romance, or loving affection on Aaron’s part? He’s about as passionate and romantic towards her as a dead herring. He looks at her as a possible girlfriend so coldly and dispassionately. She burped - take off 10 points. She wants kids and a Range Rover - take off 50 points.
If you care deeply for someone you comfort them when they are suffering (Jem leaving) - but he was all ‘oh she told me not to speak to her’.) Get things in PERSPECTIVE man. At the worst, he’s a callous selfish B******; at best he’s a childish immature limp noodle. And if you care for someone you are delighted when they are happy, you don’t start cynically thinking about their ‘gameplan’ - unless you have one yourself and that’s all you really think about.
I think Faye is a very emotional and needy person, and most of her moods where a result of Aaron’s coldness towards her, the lack of nice little romantic gestures that are a part and parcel of a man wooing a women, and a total lack of mutual understanding between them. She seen how Jay was with Lou and probably longed for some little thing, however small, that would show that he really thought she was desirable and cared for her.
Apart from when they went to bed at night, they rarely sat and had a normal conversation, let alone cuddled or touched each other affectionately. It was either Faye in a mood or Aaron in a strop and not talking to her for some stupid reason. He seems a very closed - off and self centered person, and I don’t know how any relationship could survive that - certainly not when the girl is as young as Faye is compared to him.
I’m not an Aaron fan, obviously, and not really a Faye fan either, but I feel for her. She needs to dump him pronto, for the girl has had a horrible time with not only her cow of a sister but her so - called ‘boyfriend’ messing with her head, intentionally or not. Maybe the best thing that could happen to her is being evicted on Friday and getting away from Aaron, though I would rather see HIM go. He won’t though - that kind of emotionally stunted man holds a strange fascination for many women, unfortunately. (If they ever actually got involved with him, I wonder how THEY would fare!)


Totally agree Jet.

Aaron wanted a relationship in there as part of his gameplan. Anyone would have done. They were all viable to be used.

The sad thing though is that there is a real person's real feelings involved by using a naive 19 year old, something that Aaron obviously feels a twinge of guilt about but manages to override.

The man is a cold calculating user, obsessed only with himself. Any emotion is shows is for himself and how things effect him, no one else. He has next to no empathy, thats obvious but his bumbling Hugh Grant pretense covers him so people don't see it.

I have to say, in promoting himself, Aaron has definetely helped destroy Faye's chances. I don't see how anyone that supports her can enjoy him tbf.

[Beastie]

Totally agree Jet.

Aaron wanted a relationship in there as part of his gameplan. Anyone would have done. They were all viable to be used.

The sad thing though is that there is a real person's real feelings involved by using a naive 19 year old, something that Aaron obviously feels a twinge of guilt about but manages to override.

The man is a cold calculating user, obsessed only with himself. Any emotion is shows is for himself and how things effect him, no one else. He has next to no empathy, thats obvious but his bumbling Hugh Grant pretense covers him so people don't see it.

I have to say, in promoting himself, Aaron has definetely helped destroy Faye's chances. I don't see how anyone that supports her can enjoy him tbf.


But Faye is calculating and wanted to get to "know" Aaron once she knew he was popular. Neither of them fancy each other. In a way both as bad as each other.

Aaron is a far better housemate though. Aaron is a lot better without Faye. Faye has been meh with or without Aaron.

[Cherry Christmas]

Why, did it hit a raw spot?

No, its just you are getting a tad boring repeating the same stuff over and over.:xyxwave:

[Beastie]

Faye fancied Jay as well as Aaron. Faye got jealous when Aaron kissed Maisy. Faye was playing hard to get. She wanted to be in the storyline and centre of attention. At this point of course she was mad. She knew Aaron was the favourite.

Jesus they are both as bad as each other. Or if anything Faye is worse.

[Jordan.]

It's strange how people see things so very differently. I see that it was Faye who wanted a relationship, she started out trying to get Jay but when it was clear he wasn't interested she immediately set her sights on Aaron.

You're forgetting Aaron was in the exact same situation with Louise at the start. She was the one he wanted not Faye. Remember when he was going to sabotage the shopping but didn't because he didn't want Louise to hate him...

[vesavius]

But Faye is calculating and wanted to get to "know" Aaron once she knew he was popular. Neither of them fancy each other. In a way both as bad as each other.

Faye is trying to be calculating in her way, definitely, but her emotions rule her so she is a terrible game player.

Aaron is a cold user, great at manipulating, both of Faye and the public.

[Ammi]

I think if Aaron wanted anything..it was just a bit of a flirtatious diversion..unfortunately Faye's more the Play Misty For Me type

[tomflint]

There is no chance of a relationship outside the house because of Faye's family.

[jet]

Totally agree Jet.

Aaron wanted a relationship in there as part of his gameplan. Anyone would have done. They were all viable to be used.

The sad thing though is that there is a real person's real feelings involved by using a naive 19 year old, something that Aaron obviously feels a twinge of guilt about but manages to override.

The man is a cold calculating user, obsessed only with himself. Any emotion is shows is for himself and how things effect him, no one else. He has next to no empathy, thats obvious but his bumbling Hugh Grant pretense covers him so people don't see it.

I have to say, in promoting himself, Aaron has definetely helped destroy Faye's chances. I don't see how anyone that supports her can enjoy him tbf.

Well said. Thankfully, not everyone is taken in by him. Plenty of TV guests, audiences and internet BB fans have his measure. Not one of my family or friends can stand him, so I'm assuming many non - internet people must feel the same.
I think he'll be in the final 2 though. Men like him are good at the little boy, I'm so eccentric and interesting persona. The sad thing is, men like that can never sustain a lasting, meaningful relationship. What woman could stick him permanently?

[jet]

No,it's just the same old,same old and tbh is very boring now:sleep::sleep::sleep:your opinion is yours, ours is ours,I'm not watching BB to disect the relationships,It's quite obvious,Faye and Aaron should just be friends,who in their right mind would want to get involved with the palmers?

Well I know how you feel because I'm bored with having him shoved down my throat all over this forum. No matter how Aaron behaves, he is always perceived as in the right and everyone else is wrong. Every angle is twisted to make Aaron come out smelling like a freshly powdered innocent baby.
He believes this himself too - when something goes wrong, he never blames himself, it is always someone else's fault. He is the poor victim of other peoples actions.
If another HM (say Tom) behaved like Aaron, he would be denigrated to high heaven but Aaron is excused of anything because he looks good and is a top class manipulator.
Time will tell if I'm right or wrong. :whistle:

[robb]

IMO Aaron wanted to have a relationship in the house for whatever reason. At first he fancied Louise, but she likes a mans man. He wasn’t sure whether to go for Faye or Maisy and when he tried it on with Maisy that blew up in his face and she obviously wasn’t that interested anyway. That left Faye, who DID fancy him. Alright then, Faye it is...
But it was obvious from the start that there was no spark on Aaron’s part. Can you truly say that there is any genuine passion, or romance, or loving affection on Aaron’s part? He’s about as passionate and romantic towards her as a dead herring. He looks at her as a possible girlfriend so coldly and dispassionately. She burped - take off 10 points. She wants kids and a Range Rover - take off 50 points.
If you care deeply for someone you comfort them when they are suffering (Jem leaving) - but he was all ‘oh she told me not to speak to her’.) Get things in PERSPECTIVE man. At the worst, he’s a callous selfish B******; at best he’s a childish immature limp noodle. And if you care for someone you are delighted when they are happy, you don’t start cynically thinking about their ‘gameplan’ - unless you have one yourself and that’s all you really think about.
I think Faye is a very emotional and needy person, and most of her moods where a result of Aaron’s coldness towards her, the lack of nice little romantic gestures that are a part and parcel of a man wooing a women, and a total lack of mutual understanding between them. She seen how Jay was with Lou and probably longed for some little thing, however small, that would show that he really thought she was desirable and cared for her.
Apart from when they went to bed at night, they rarely sat and had a normal conversation, let alone cuddled or touched each other affectionately. It was either Faye in a mood or Aaron in a strop and not talking to her for some stupid reason. He seems a very closed - off and self centered person, and I don’t know how any relationship could survive that - certainly not when the girl is as young as Faye is compared to him.
I’m not an Aaron fan, obviously, and not really a Faye fan either, but I feel for her. She needs to dump him pronto, for the girl has had a horrible time with not only her cow of a sister but her so - called ‘boyfriend’ messing with her head, intentionally or not. Maybe the best thing that could happen to her is being evicted on Friday and getting away from Aaron, though I would rather see HIM go. He won’t though - that kind of emotionally stunted man holds a strange fascination for many women, unfortunately. (If they ever actually got involved with him, I wonder how THEY would fare!)

How dare she want kids and a car sometime in the future?? For that she must be punished by the Aaron sect........she must go tonight :nono:

[flamingGalah!]

Posts like the OP's make me convonced that they either miss great big chunks of the show or watch with blinkers on... :idc:

[lucyann]

So Louise likes a mans man does she ? Well one things for sure, Jay is deffo a mans man lol. Remember he said he had 2 ladymen in Thailand?

[Kazelle]

You're forgetting Aaron was in the exact same situation with Louise at the start. She was the one he wanted not Faye. Remember when he was going to sabotage the shopping but didn't because he didn't want Louise to hate him...

I do remember that, they were all single and free to like whoever they chose to. I'm not berating Faye for liking Jay at all. My point was that Faye wouldn't let up on Aaron until he admitted he liked her, then it seemed that as soon as he did it was as though it had been written in blood that he was "hers" for her to leave hanging, until she chose to do anything about it.
Very controlling and manipulative behaviour for one so young.

[Kazelle]

I agree with you on that score. How come the Lord, Master of all he surveys hadn't the intelligence to know this from very early on? Strange, that.


I don't think we can be watching the same show.:hugesmile:

He's a young guy, he had two attractive girls in his bed and one of them was giving out. OMG did you not see the trouble that caused for him?
Poor guy was made out to be the worst of the worst. Faye lied and said he'd "gone off at her "when all he actually did was tell her she was out of order and walk away from her, when she used his son to try and guilt trip him.
I don't think his "intelligence" had a chance to come into play because he was instantly sucked into a relationship with Faye after all that backlash.

I saw no big deal made when Faye was all over Anton asking him if he "had a semi" I think you're falling for the little girl hurt act.

[Scream]

Not a huge fan of Aaron so don't say I'm making excuses for him cause I'm really not but.. he might have tried to find a relationship in the house as a game plan but maybe now he does genuinely like her.

[Ammi]

IMO Aaron wanted to have a relationship in the house for whatever reason. At first he fancied Louise, but she likes a mans man. He wasn’t sure whether to go for Faye or Maisy and when he tried it on with Maisy that blew up in his face and she obviously wasn’t that interested anyway. That left Faye, who DID fancy him. Alright then, Faye it is...
But it was obvious from the start that there was no spark on Aaron’s part. Can you truly say that there is any genuine passion, or romance, or loving affection on Aaron’s part? He’s about as passionate and romantic towards her as a dead herring. He looks at her as a possible girlfriend so coldly and dispassionately. She burped - take off 10 points. She wants kids and a Range Rover - take off 50 points.
If you care deeply for someone you comfort them when they are suffering (Jem leaving) - but he was all ‘oh she told me not to speak to her’.) Get things in PERSPECTIVE man. At the worst, he’s a callous selfish B******; at best he’s a childish immature limp noodle. And if you care for someone you are delighted when they are happy, you don’t start cynically thinking about their ‘gameplan’ - unless you have one yourself and that’s all you really think about.
I think Faye is a very emotional and needy person, and most of her moods where a result of Aaron’s coldness towards her, the lack of nice little romantic gestures that are a part and parcel of a man wooing a women, and a total lack of mutual understanding between them. She seen how Jay was with Lou and probably longed for some little thing, however small, that would show that he really thought she was desirable and cared for her.
Apart from when they went to bed at night, they rarely sat and had a normal conversation, let alone cuddled or touched each other affectionately. It was either Faye in a mood or Aaron in a strop and not talking to her for some stupid reason. He seems a very closed - off and self centered person, and I don’t know how any relationship could survive that - certainly not when the girl is as young as Faye is compared to him.
I’m not an Aaron fan, obviously, and not really a Faye fan either, but I feel for her. She needs to dump him pronto, for the girl has had a horrible time with not only her cow of a sister but her so - called ‘boyfriend’ messing with her head, intentionally or not. Maybe the best thing that could happen to her is being evicted on Friday and getting away from Aaron, though I would rather see HIM go. He won’t though - that kind of emotionally stunted man holds a strange fascination for many women, unfortunately. (If they ever actually got involved with him, I wonder how THEY would fare!)

'At first he fancied Louise'...well what man wouldn't she's a beautiful model..however, like the rest of us, he soon saw through the back of her head by looking into her eyes..let's not criticise a man for wanting more than a beautiful package....

'..when he tried it on with Maisy..' when Maisy and Aaron BOTH snogged each other...AFTER Faye got out of bed and told him to spoon Maisy...BEFORE any romance wit Faye..and oh didn't she guilt trip him for that one...'...you want you're son to be proud.....' cheap shot...

'She burped..take off 10 points'...she burped in his face...hardly your typical mating ritual behaviour..I would doubt there's a H.M in there who would not have been offended by that (bar Jay and Louise)

'She wants kids and a Range Rover..take off 50 points..' he wasn't criticising her for wanting those things..he was realising the differences between them and the realisation that they may not be compatible...something a lot of us have been saying since the start...they may like each other...but they are too different....an honest diary room revelation imo

'the lack of romantic gestures...how Jay is with Louise...' if she wanted a man to make tin foil letters, write her name in blood..stick messages on the door....she chose the wrong man..that's Jay..it's not Aaron....isn't caring for someone about loving THEM..not wanting them to be someone else...

'Aaron in a strop'....from what I recall Aaron's main strop with Faye was the revelation of seeing him nominate him....

..I agree with the last part....she needs to go tonight....leave Aaron to try and regain some of the life she has sucked from him.......

[Cherry Christmas]

superb Ammi, superb.:elephant:

[jet]

'At first he fancied Louise'...well what man wouldn't she's a beautiful model..however, like the rest of us, he soon saw through the back of her head by looking into her eyes..let's not criticise a man for wanting more than a beautiful package....

'..when he tried it on with Maisy..' when Maisy and Aaron BOTH snogged each other...AFTER Faye got out of bed and told him to spoon Maisy...BEFORE any romance wit Faye..and oh didn't she guilt trip him for that one...'...you want you're son to be proud.....' cheap shot...

'She burped..take off 10 points'...she burped in his face...hardly your typical mating ritual behaviour..I would doubt there's a H.M in there who would not have been offended by that (bar Jay and Louise)

'She wants kids and a Range Rover..take off 50 points..' he wasn't criticising her for wanting those things..he was realising the differences between them and the realisation that they may not be compatible...something a lot of us have been saying since the start...they may like each other...but they are too different....an honest diary room revelation imo

'the lack of romantic gestures...how Jay is with Louise...' if she wanted a man to make tin foil letters, write her name in blood..stick messages on the door....she chose the wrong man..that's Jay..it's not Aaron....isn't caring for someone about loving THEM..not wanting them to be someone else...

'Aaron in a strop'....from what I recall Aaron's main strop with Faye was the revelation of seeing him nominate him....

..I agree with the last part....she needs to go tonight....leave Aaron to try and regain some of the life she has sucked from him.......

See, once again Aaron can do no wrong. Ever. You need to take off those blinkers. :hugesmile:

[Bojangles]

Faye is trying to be calculating in her way, definitely, but her emotions rule her so she is a terrible game player.

Aaron is a cold user, great at manipulating, both of Faye and the public.


I'll second that.

[Cromwell1900]

'At first he fancied Louise'...well what man wouldn't she's a beautiful model..however, like the rest of us, he soon saw through the back of her head by looking into her eyes..let's not criticise a man for wanting more than a beautiful package....

'..when he tried it on with Maisy..' when Maisy and Aaron BOTH snogged each other...AFTER Faye got out of bed and told him to spoon Maisy...BEFORE any romance wit Faye..and oh didn't she guilt trip him for that one...'...you want you're son to be proud.....' cheap shot...

'She burped..take off 10 points'...she burped in his face...hardly your typical mating ritual behaviour..I would doubt there's a H.M in there who would not have been offended by that (bar Jay and Louise)

'She wants kids and a Range Rover..take off 50 points..' he wasn't criticising her for wanting those things..he was realising the differences between them and the realisation that they may not be compatible...something a lot of us have been saying since the start...they may like each other...but they are too different....an honest diary room revelation imo

'the lack of romantic gestures...how Jay is with Louise...' if she wanted a man to make tin foil letters, write her name in blood..stick messages on the door....she chose the wrong man..that's Jay..it's not Aaron....isn't caring for someone about loving THEM..not wanting them to be someone else...

'Aaron in a strop'....from what I recall Aaron's main strop with Faye was the revelation of seeing him nominate him....

..I agree with the last part....she needs to go tonight....leave Aaron to try and regain some of the life she has sucked from him.......


Liking the points system there, and yes 60 points plus points for the other things you mention & such as her not wanting children till 30, and her childish behavior have to be considered. Iv felt Aaron was way past my tolerance limit of 100 points for a long while now. If he still shows a romantic interest in Faye from this point given she stays, this is surely evidence she is part of his strategy i think.