You got Harry wrong ...accept you have got Aaron wrong too...

[jet]

You can't go on believing and wasting your money on a fake. If Aaron wins, it will be because nobody wants to admit they are wrong. That is going against the spirit of BB.
Harry told it like it is - as I knew he would. The minute he was evicted I thought 'here we go! I knew Aaron was going to be exposed.
Harry is from a privileged background and in my experience that usually means he has the confidence and upbringing to say what he really thinks more than your average Joe. I didn't particularly like Harry because of the foxhunting, which I am dead against!!! But he is certainly savvy and intelligent. He had Aaron's measure to a T. I could see it in the house. Anyone could who wasn't blind - just go back and listen to a few of their conversations - Harry was pretty clear that he knew Aaron was gameplaying like crazy and using Faye (remember the comment 'that's what worries me') , and he probably thought that the outside world could see it too. So he probably didn't have a clue when he came out that Aaron had so many people taken in.

[InOne]

You can't go on believing and wasting your money on a fake. If Aaron wins, it will be because nobody wants to admit they are wrong. That is going against the spirit of BB.
Harry told it like it is - as I knew he would. The minute he was evicted I thought 'here we go! I knew Aaron was going to be exposed.
Harry is from a privileged background and in my experience that usually means he has the confidence and upbringing to say what he really thinks more than your average Joe. I didn't particularly like Harry because of the foxhunting, which I am dead against!!! But he is certainly savvy and intelligent. He had Aaron's measure to a T. I could see it in the house. Anyone could who wasn't blind - just go back and listen to a few of their conversations - Harry was pretty clear that he knew Aaron was gameplaying like crazy and using Faye (remember the comment 'that's what worries me') , and he probably thought that the outside world could see it too. So he probably didn't have a clue when he came out that Aaron had so many people taken in.


Yeah but then they always use the sarcastic "Playing a game on a gameshow" argument. But at the end of the day, they can't have it both ways.

[paper-cut-exit]

they can't have it both ways.

Ain't gonna stop them trying tho - or stop the flow of hypocritical bull**** that's gonna come because of this lol

[Claymores]

who is the "you" jet?

I voted Harry to stay but obviously Joe/Joanne public like a bloke who puts crap in a freezer much more.

I'm shocked he got 2nd to Aaron - I've always known Arron is a player who's gameplan is fading, but at least he's nice bloke

[JTM45]

who is the "you" jet?

I voted Harry to stay but obviously Joe/Joanne public like a bloke who puts crap in a freezer much more.

I'm shocked he got 2nd to Aaron - I've always known Arron is a player who's gameplan is fading, but at least he's nice bloke

Spot-on!

They're all playing a game, it's just that Aaron is playing it better and that's why i support him.
His game has been played brilliantly and even his worst enemy in there admitted that.

[jet]

who is the "you" jet?

I voted Harry to stay but obviously Joe/Joanne public like a bloke who puts crap in a freezer much more.

I'm shocked he got 2nd to Aaron - I've always known Arron is a player who's gameplan is fading, but at least he's nice bloke

"You' is fans of Aaron. My post was about Harry and Aaron, not about Jay, so I'm not sure where you are coming from. :conf:

[Vicky.]

Never thought Aaron wasnt playing a game :shrug:

Still dont think hes using Faye though, no matter how many times it gets repeated :)

[newyorkjgjg]

So how do you win BB to sit and play house with Tom all day? ITS A GAME

[jet]

Spot-on!

They're all playing a game, it's just that Aaron is playing it better and that's why i support him.
His game has been played brilliantly and even his worst enemy in there admitted that.

Traditionally, gameplayers don't win BB. The great British public don't really gel with plotters and planners. Genuine, entertaining people who are true to their personalities win every time. It's a Brit thing.

[JTM45]

Nearly every person who goes on BB has a gameplan whether they admit it or not so i think you'd be surprised by how many gameplayers have won BB if they were completely honest about it.
The people who've won BB without any gameplan are very few and far between.

[jet]

Never thought Aaron wasnt playing a game :shrug:

Still dont think hes using Faye though, no matter how many times it gets repeated :)

Your first sentence - You are exceedingly fond of gameplayers then? I ask because you have championed him at every turn.

Your second sentence - You think Harry is lying then? I thought he was your fav HM.

:conf:

[JTM45]

It's a game so why would it be wrong to play it like a game ?
At the end of the day he's a good person who cares greatly for his son and even his ex-wife (to be) and he's playing a fantastic game.
What more could you want in a BB contestant ?

[Vicky.]

Your first sentence - You are exceedingly fond of gameplayers then? I ask because you have championed him at every turn.

Your second sentence - You think Harry is lying then? I thought he was your fav HM.

:conf:

Harry is my second fave. Also I took what he said as tongue in cheek tbh, but even if it wasnt, its just his opinion at the end of the day. Doesnt mean I think he is lying, more that my opinion is different to his.

And yes, I like gameplayers. My fave ever housemate is Makosi, and I loved Victor too(though I must add, cant stand Victor now..since he sold out). Biggest and best gameplayers BB has ever seen ;)

[Claymores]

"You' is fans of Aaron. My post was about Harry and Aaron, not about Jay, so I'm not sure where you are coming from. :conf:

Hi - I'm coming from being a supporter of 'nice' people and ALWAYS wanting twonks gone. I brought Mr Wassock into the debate as I'd prefer not to have him on my LCD ever again. I apologise.

Aaron is fine and a player. I said above I must have been one of the few who voted Harry!!!!!!

I played the BB game from a negative perspective - wanted the horrors out then didn't care who won the finals week

"you" does not pidgeonhole everyone. Not an Aaron big fan here, but better him than the freezer crapper or Alex who was a wannabbee on BBC3

[jet]

Harry is my second fave. Also I took what he said as tongue in cheek tbh, but even if it wasnt, its just his opinion at the end of the day. Doesnt mean I think he is lying, more that my opinion is different to his.

And yes, I like gameplayers. My fave ever housemate is Makosi, and I loved victor too. Biggest and best gameplayers BB has ever seen ;)

You said in another post Harry was your fav over Aaron. Maybe you change with the flow.

I think too, that Harry's opinion has a far greater weight than yours, seeing he was living in the house 24/7. Wouldn't you agree with that?

[Vicky.]

You said in another post Harry was your fav over Aaron. Maybe you change with the flow.

I think too, that Harry's opinion has a far greater weight than yours, seeing he was living in the house 24/7. Wouldn't you agree with that?

How long ago was that though...lol. People change favourites you know, they were both around equal at the start of this week, but Harrys hardly been featured recently. Hence why I voted for Aaron this week and was planning on chucking votes harrys way if they reopened the lines(though it turned out that I had to work and missed the damn eviction :sad: )

And no, I wouldnt really. Opinions are opinions :)

[jet]

How long ago was that though...lol. People change favourites you know, they were both around equal at the start of this week, but Harrys hardly been featured recently. Hence why I voted for Aaron this week and was planning on chucking votes harrys way if they reopened the lines(though it turned out that I had to work and missed the damn eviction :sad: )

And no, I wouldnt really. Opinions are opinions :)

So we know better than those who are in the house? That's a new one. You have said the opposite when it suits you. :hugesmile:

[Vicky.]

So we know better than those who are in the house? That's a new one. You have said the opposite when it suits you. :hugesmile:

Like? The housemates are obviously going to know more about what goes on than we are, especially as we have no LF to go on. But opinions...are still opinions. Also on more than one occasion, Harry has said the total opposite to what he said tonight anyway, so forgive me if I dont take one sentence as absolute fact :D

I never said that we know better than those in the house did I? So get rid of the strawman. EVERYONE has opinions on every matter. No opinion is right, and no opinion is wrong. To add to this, noone besides Aaron and Faye know the actual truth about their side of the relationship, everyone else who comments on it is just going on their own opinions.

Personally I would never change my opinion just because someone elses is different to mine, so just because Harry apparently thinks its fake...sorry...nope, not changing :)

[Vicky.]

I dont think I have ever used the word opinions that often before in my life, nevermind in one post :o

[Kerry]

I dont think I have ever used the word opinions that often before in my life, nevermind in one post :o

I had a day of "awkward" overload this last week :joker:

[jet]

Like? The housemates are obviously going to know more about what goes on than we are, especially as we have no LF to go on. But opinions...are still opinions. Also on more than one occasion, Harry has said the total opposite to what he said tonight anyway, so forgive me if I dont take one sentence as absolute fact :D

I never said that we know better than those in the house did I? So get rid of the strawman. EVERYONE has opinions on every matter. No opinion is right, and no opinion is wrong. To add to this, noone besides Aaron and Faye know the actual truth about their side of the relationship, everyone else who comments on it is just going on their own opinions.

Personally I would never change my opinion just because someone elses is different to mine, so just because Harry apparently thinks its fake...sorry...nope, not changing :)

Okay, fair enough. I have my opinion and you have yours. The difference is that if Harry had come out and said that Aaron was a 100% decent guy - that in conversations with him he believed he really cared deeply for Faye and he was totally genuine I would have been swayed and admitted (very reluctantly, I admit) I MIGHT be wrong about Aaron. Harry is no fool.
If Aaron proves his love for Faye is real over the next fortnight, I'll reluctantly admit I was wrong. But I truly believe I won't be.
Tonight when Harry was evicted, Aaron was seen clutching his face in his hands in genuine horror. He had an hour to contemplate that either Faye or Harry was going - yet the horror of it being Harry was very telling. He really thought Faye was going to go and that would be a blessed relief for him, because he has dug himself into a deep hole there.
He isn't as good a game player as he thinks he is. It's all very transparent to those who haven't got blinkers on.

[Jords]

I dont understand how fans can say he IS playing a game but NOT using Faye?

Pretty sure they are just saying it to make him look good. Most of what he does revolves around Faye.....................

[MartianMark]

First of all Jet.. I think you and a few other posters above me need this...so to turn that frown upside down..on behalf of all Aarons fans...

:hug:

It's probably just me, since this is my first time watching BBUK but I don't quite get all the noise about "game play". Granted, BBUS is considerably different from BBUK, in that it's ALL about game play and manipulation.

At the end of the day there's 100,000 to be won. You assume that the public has in some way been deluded by him. You really couldn't be farther from the truth. He's done more in that house to keep the feeds on him, while still being a decent human being and just an all around nice guy. If that's what you consider game playing, then more power to him.

I fear that my perception of what constitutes good entertainment is vastly different from a few posters on this thread. I am in no way implying that anyone's opinion is right or wrong. Of course to each his own, but I am still rather disheartened, particularly by vitriolic diatribes directed at a HM that is hardly deserving of it.

I will be happy to delete this post if I have broken any rules with that last statement.

[MartianMark]

I dont understand how fans can say he IS playing a game but NOT using Faye?

Pretty sure they are just saying it to make him look good. Most of what he does revolves around Faye.....................

Again, two-way street. IF he is using her, she's using him just as much. Remember, she only showed an interest in him AFTER he got the most votes in the first eviction. She could have just as easily not shown any interest in him whatsoever. But as usual, he's damned if he does and damned if he doesn't. Its just pure conjecture at this point.

[luminoussun]

Letting them talk about nominations automatically makes game playing a must.
Ok they are still worried about the cameras seeing it.But it will happen.
I think anton harmed himself by blatant game playing..he should of learned from the master Darth Aaron

[Angus]

You can't go on believing and wasting your money on a fake. If Aaron wins, it will be because nobody wants to admit they are wrong. That is going against the spirit of BB.
Harry told it like it is - as I knew he would. The minute he was evicted I thought 'here we go! I knew Aaron was going to be exposed.
Harry is from a privileged background and in my experience that usually means he has the confidence and upbringing to say what he really thinks more than your average Joe. I didn't particularly like Harry because of the foxhunting, which I am dead against!!! But he is certainly savvy and intelligent. He had Aaron's measure to a T. I could see it in the house. Anyone could who wasn't blind - just go back and listen to a few of their conversations - Harry was pretty clear that he knew Aaron was gameplaying like crazy and using Faye (remember the comment 'that's what worries me') , and he probably thought that the outside world could see it too. So he probably didn't have a clue when he came out that Aaron had so many people taken in.

What the hell are you on about? Harry and Aaron are the two people who always understood it was a game show and that every single one of the HMs have a game plan. Anton cast himself as the villain, Jay as the Jack the Lad, Alex as the ditzy blonde barbie, Tom as her cheeky camp sidekick, Heaven as the mother of the house, Rebeckah as the tart with a heart etc. Some just cling on to others' coat tails to gain airtime and create a bit of drama around themselves: Louise, Tashie, Faye, Maisy -they contribute very little of themselves to anything but leech off others' popularity and/or notoriety.

What do you think we're watching if not a game show with a massive prize at the end of it? The point is that some play the game way better than others, and do it entertainingly without having to resort to obnoxious, spiteful, bitchy behaviour.

I love Aaron's new nickname as coined by Harry - The Producer. Aaron is the one person who has actually delivered what he promised in his VT, to make everyone watch his every move.

If BB is not a game show, what on earth do you think it is?

[JTM45]

Great post full of the truth Angus!
It seems like some people just want to be hating on Aaron because he's doing so well. Compared to quite a few other housemates this year Aaron's played a very clean and civil game and he's played it in a whole different leafue to anyone else.

He's the most deserving winner out of all of them!!!

[GabbygalEvs]

i agree with vicky i still dont think hes using faye even if hes playing a game which as said before they all are

theyve all tried to get on before theyve audtioned aswell for other things

does that not make them all game players

[showtime77]

They are all game players! Why is it so hard for you to understand? It is a game show! Aaron's a charming, intelligent, funny & complex game player. He operates on a higher level then the rest of his house mates. I'm not interested in voting for someone like Alex who shows how ignorant & dumb she is on a daily basic or Louise who I consider to be one of the most boring people to ever enter the house. Aaron is not a fence sitter and I have so much respect for him for that. He may not win the money in the end but without doubt he has been the star of the show.

[Gillian-73]

I've known aaron has had a game plan from day one so harry saying that is hardly a surprise or a shock! aaron has played a fantastic game although i don't believe he's using faye, i do believe he genuinely cares about her and alot more than she does about him! if anybody changes their opinion about aaron because of what harry said must have been watching a different show to me if they didn't realise aaron had a game plan until harry said it!

[Gillian-73]

What the hell are you on about? Harry and Aaron are the two people who always understood it was a game show and that every single one of the HMs have a game plan. Anton cast himself as the villain, Jay as the Jack the Lad, Alex as the ditzy blonde barbie, Tom as her cheeky camp sidekick, Heaven as the mother of the house, Rebeckah as the tart with a heart etc. Some just cling on to others' coat tails to gain airtime and create a bit of drama around themselves: Louise, Tashie, Faye, Maisy -they contribute very little of themselves to anything but leech off others' popularity and/or notoriety.

What do you think we're watching if not a game show with a massive prize at the end of it? The point is that some play the game way better than others, and do it entertainingly without having to resort to obnoxious, spiteful, bitchy behaviour.

I love Aaron's new nickname as coined by Harry - The Producer. Aaron is the one person who has actually delivered what he promised in his VT, to make everyone watch his every move.

If BB is not a game show, what on earth do you think it is?

This! great post

[PooBay]

Game show contestant in game playing shocker.




Sorry.:spin:

[Pyramid*]

What the hell are you on about? Harry and Aaron are the two people who always understood it was a game show and that every single one of the HMs have a game plan. Anton cast himself as the villain, Jay as the Jack the Lad, Alex as the ditzy blonde barbie, Tom as her cheeky camp sidekick, Heaven as the mother of the house, Rebeckah as the tart with a heart etc. Some just cling on to others' coat tails to gain airtime and create a bit of drama around themselves: Louise, Tashie, Faye, Maisy -they contribute very little of themselves to anything but leech off others' popularity and/or notoriety.

What do you think we're watching if not a game show with a massive prize at the end of it? The point is that some play the game way better than others, and do it entertainingly without having to resort to obnoxious, spiteful, bitchy behaviour.

I love Aaron's new nickname as coined by Harry - The Producer. Aaron is the one person who has actually delivered what he promised in his VT, to make everyone watch his every move.

If BB is not a game show, what on earth do you think it is?

*Gives round of applause*

Aaron said from week one in the diary room that it was a GAME. He's playing the game well.

As for Faye - this is the female that is one of the biggest players in there - and if Aaron is playing her (and I do think he is to a degree, I've said for weeks now that he might 'know exactly what he is doing' - but would still prefer him to get rid of her).

Harry's pet name for Aaron The Producer was brilliant. I'm guessing Harry was Co-Producer and shame he had to leave so early.

[joeysteele]

I was a bit disappointed with Harry's comments as to Aaron but despite BB, I like Aaron for how he is as a housemate.

We accept it's a gameshow,what I found a little inconsistent with Harry was he seemed to say near all the guys in there were his best friend in the house. I expect sensationalism a bit when a housemate comes out.

Harry sadly it seems needed Aaron fans to keep hom in, this week they took few chances and just voted for Aaron in the main.

I still like Harry, however after hearing him,I was glad I put very few votes his way this week and no I don't for one moment believe I am wrong as to Aaron.I cannot see that happening now with likely near all his voting supporters, who still this week again, got him to top the most votes cast.

[exoticrosebud]

ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh i missed the eviction last night and bbbots....i fell asleep !! shame on me.....anyone got time to enlighten me..??? whats harry done ??? oh god, how could i have been sooooo careless !! lol.....

[Jords]

Again, two-way street. IF he is using her, she's using him just as much. Remember, she only showed an interest in him AFTER he got the most votes in the first eviction. She could have just as easily not shown any interest in him whatsoever. But as usual, he's damned if he does and damned if he doesn't. Its just pure conjecture at this point.

It is a bit silly to suggest that it depends on Aaron if Faye is playing a game............................ :laugh:

At the time I agree that Faye appeared to show an interest because he topped the votes, but as time gone on we have seen here paranoia grow about if he'll like her on the outside and blah blah. So I really do think its genuine, and heck she locked horns with her sister over him too!

I think Aaron does have feeling for Faye, and possibly surprised how strong they are but I think Harry pretty much confirmed hes messing with her head a bit to aid his game.

Again, just what I think and I know many others will disagree.

[flamingGalah!]

Aaron may well be playing a game, but he is still a lovely guy, very entertaining & great to watch too... :xyxwave:

And just because Harry said that he 'may' be using Faye as part of a game plan doesn't mean that he IS... Harry himself also said that his feelings for her could well be genuine. Besides methinks Harry was just feeling a little bitter about being evicted...

[MaratSafinForever]

I can't believe how seriously thick some people can be, even for Big Brother fans.

I have absolutely no idea how you'd think he was putting on an act, it's just absolutely bamboozling.

I challenge you to state every reason of how Aaron is this massive 'game player'.

Anton you could present a strong case for, but Aaron?

[vesavius]

You can't go on believing and wasting your money on a fake. If Aaron wins, it will be because nobody wants to admit they are wrong. That is going against the spirit of BB.
Harry told it like it is - as I knew he would. The minute he was evicted I thought 'here we go! I knew Aaron was going to be exposed.
Harry is from a privileged background and in my experience that usually means he has the confidence and upbringing to say what he really thinks more than your average Joe. I didn't particularly like Harry because of the foxhunting, which I am dead against!!! But he is certainly savvy and intelligent. He had Aaron's measure to a T. I could see it in the house. Anyone could who wasn't blind - just go back and listen to a few of their conversations - Harry was pretty clear that he knew Aaron was gameplaying like crazy and using Faye (remember the comment 'that's what worries me') , and he probably thought that the outside world could see it too. So he probably didn't have a clue when he came out that Aaron had so many people taken in.

Harry saw through Aaron, just as Anton saw through Aaron, just as Jem saw through Aaron.

It seems the only people that don't see through AAron are the people voting for Aaron.

'Even went to the trouble of getting a girlfriend for the show' ...Indeed.

On a side note, want an arrogant douche Aaron's brother is.

[vesavius]

/snip

Talk about the HMs not other forum posters :nono:

[flamingGalah!]

Harry saw through Aaron, just as Anton saw through Aaron, just as Jem saw through Aaron.

It seems the only people that don't see through AAron are the people voting for Aaron.

'Even went to the trouble of getting a girlfriend for the show' ...Indeed.

On a side note, want an arrogant douche Aaron's brother is.

All 3 just seem bitter & jealous to me, even Harry...

It seems to me the only people with a real problem with Aaron are the ones who have never liked him & seem to jump on every little action/comment to try & justify their hate...

And Aaron's brother is just as spot on as Aaron himself, obviously why you dislike him so much too ;)

[vesavius]

Game show contestant in game playing shocker.


But ask yourself who is he playing a game WITH and at who's expense.

Look closer and you will see that it is everyone who pays their money to keep him in there.

His fan's vote for him, he laughs up his sleeve at them... seems like a fair trade.

[Roy Mars III]

Harry saw through Aaron, just as Anton saw through Aaron, just as Jem saw through Aaron.

It seems the only people that don't see through AAron are the people voting for Aaron.

'Even went to the trouble of getting a girlfriend for the show' ...Indeed.

On a side note, want an arrogant douche Aaron's brother is.

Of course Aaron has a gameplan. But at least it's not as big as Alex's or even Tom's.

[vesavius]

All 3 just seem bitter & jealous to me, even Harry...

So any negative comment about Aaron by any HM with the freedom to talk comes from bitterness and jealousy?

Despite a clear pattern emerging in what they say about him? Despite them obviously not being allied or co-ordinated in any way?

ooookkkkay....


It seems to me the only people with a real problem with Aaron are the ones who have never liked him & seem to jump on every little action/comment to try & justify their hate...

Please don't use the word 'hate'... it's just a gameshow, there is no hate involved.

I actually did like AAron for the forst 4 weeks or so, but then I saw through him and had the honesty to change my stance accordingly. I don't get so entrenched in a HM that my opinion is untouchable.

And Aaron's brother is just as spot on as Aaron himself, obviously why you dislike him so much too ;)

I ahve no doubt that Aaron outside the house is more like his brother then the constrcuted fake Aaron we see inside, so it does follow I wouldn't like him either, I agree.

[vesavius]

Of course Aaron has a gameplan. But at least it's not as big as Alex's or even Tom's.

I don't mind gameplayers, playing BB is fine. I object to the tactics Aaron has chosen and think they speak loudly and clearly about him as a person. See my sig.

[Roy Mars III]

I don't mind gameplayers, playing BB is fine. I object to the tactics Aaron has chosen and think they speak loudly and clearly about him as a person. See my sig.

Fair enough.

[Bill Carson]

I've known aaron has had a game plan from day one so harry saying that is hardly a surprise or a shock! aaron has played a fantastic game although i don't believe he's using faye, i do believe he genuinely cares about her and alot more than she does about him! if anybody changes their opinion about aaron because of what harry said must have been watching a different show to me if they didn't realise aaron had a game plan until harry said it!

I find it quite amusing that the majority of you can't (or won't) acknowledge what Harry was alluding to,Faye is being done up like a kipper (the recent "i love you")was obviously for the fans benefit(the night b4,when he had a skinful of truth serum,they wanted "different things").

Harry+aaron were probably 2 of the most intelligent H/M's this year,but with 2 very different approaches-harry decided to just be himself,boring bits and all,whereas aarons approach was different,he believes he can fool the public into thinking he is this warm lovable boy next door,whereas often we saw a cold,calculating,unforgiving,sulking character.

The fact that he was desperate to get it on with any female (Maisy or Faye)and maybe even curry some of the gay vote by deliberately toying with Tom,betrayed his character to H/M's and not a few viewers, the blatant bringing of his sons picture into the garden so that he could cry in front of the girls was a cringeworthy attempt to attract their affection (and the viewers)

Of course none of this duplicitousness would be worth a damn if it wasn't successful on the voting public buying into this nice but misunderstood persona,Harry knows this,and he knows that the public are voting for a fake,not the real character(which as occasion has shown-is somewhat different).

So his gameplan is working,not because his fans acknowledge he is playing a game,but because he has fooled them into believing that,when the reality is that his fans have been played,but because of the level of haranging that is prevalent on here and the level of mania that has set in i doubt anyone could admit that,even if they wanted to.

[Vicky.]

If Aaron proves his love for Faye is real over the next fortnight, I'll reluctantly admit I was wrong. But I truly believe I won't be.


Out of curiousity...how could he do this in your eyes?

How would he 'prove his love'...without it just being written off as another part of the gameplan? :conf:

Would a message in blood do the trick? :laugh:

[InOne]

So he's a gamplayer, but still being fully himself, Faye is actually using him, he's being manipulated by Faye, BB are out to get him, Harry is now a snake....

Is THIS the distorted mentality of Aaron fans?

[jet]

Out of curiousity...how could he do this in your eyes?

How would he 'prove his love'...without it just being written off as another part of the gameplan? :conf:

Would a message in blood do the trick? :laugh:

I find Aaron very easy to read. I always have. I was right about him being manipulative, devious and sly - when that was always denied by his fans. I'll know when and if he has real feelings for Faye and I'll let you know. :hmph:
Don't be holding your breath now.

[jet]

I find it quite amusing that the majority of you can't (or won't) acknowledge what Harry was alluding to,Faye is being done up like a kipper (the recent "i love you")was obviously for the fans benefit(the night b4,when he had a skinful of truth serum,they wanted "different things").

Harry+aaron were probably 2 of the most intelligent H/M's this year,but with 2 very different approaches-harry decided to just be himself,boring bits and all,whereas aarons approach was different,he believes he can fool the public into thinking he is this warm lovable boy next door,whereas often we saw a cold,calculating,unforgiving,sulking character.

The fact that he was desperate to get it on with any female (Maisy or Faye)and maybe even curry some of the gay vote by deliberately toying with Tom,betrayed his character to H/M's and not a few viewers, the blatant bringing of his sons picture into the garden so that he could cry in front of the girls was a cringeworthy attempt to attract their affection (and the viewers)

Of course none of this duplicitousness would be worth a damn if it wasn't successful on the voting public buying into this nice but misunderstood persona,Harry knows this,and he knows that the public are voting for a fake,not the real character(which as occasion has shown-is somewhat different).

So his gameplan is working,not because his fans acknowledge he is playing a game,but because he has fooled them into believing that,when the reality is that his fans have been played,but because of the level of haranging that is prevalent on here and the level of mania that has set in i doubt anyone could admit that,even if they wanted to.

Agree 100%. Brilliant post.

[Angus]

I find it quite amusing that the majority of you can't (or won't) acknowledge what Harry was alluding to,Faye is being done up like a kipper (the recent "i love you")was obviously for the fans benefit(the night b4,when he had a skinful of truth serum,they wanted "different things").

Harry+aaron were probably 2 of the most intelligent H/M's this year,but with 2 very different approaches-harry decided to just be himself,boring bits and all,whereas aarons approach was different,he believes he can fool the public into thinking he is this warm lovable boy next door,whereas often we saw a cold,calculating,unforgiving,sulking character.

The fact that he was desperate to get it on with any female (Maisy or Faye)and maybe even curry some of the gay vote by deliberately toying with Tom,betrayed his character to H/M's and not a few viewers, the blatant bringing of his sons picture into the garden so that he could cry in front of the girls was a cringeworthy attempt to attract their affection (and the viewers)

Of course none of this duplicitousness would be worth a damn if it wasn't successful on the voting public buying into this nice but misunderstood persona,Harry knows this,and he knows that the public are voting for a fake,not the real character(which as occasion has shown-is somewhat different).

So his gameplan is working,not because his fans acknowledge he is playing a game,but because he has fooled them into believing that,when the reality is that his fans have been played,but because of the level of haranging that is prevalent on here and the level of mania that has set in i doubt anyone could admit that,even if they wanted to.

And you got your Degree in Psychology from which university? Patronising is the word for your post. Just because the majority of us prefer Aaron to the other dross in the house, doesn't mean we're being "fooled" or "deluded". The same accusation could be levelled at fans of other HMs, but they are able to make their own opinions and minds up about who they wish to support, albeit I might raise my eyebrows and think WTF?

We can discuss the HMs as much as we like and make all sorts of judgments about them based upon our own personalities and what naturally attracts or repels us in a person. I trust my own judgment when deciding whether or not I like a person, and Aaron has shown us all the sides of his personality, the good and the bad unlike some in the house who hide behind fake smiles, placid exteriors, contrived jollity, and low profiles. Are the fans of those HMs being "fooled"? Possibly, but if so, so what? They are also being entertained, even if I am not, and that is really what the show is all about.

I watch BB for fun and Aaron has entertained me all the way through. You might think completely differently, but that's the way the cookie crumbles - we don't all agree on who is the best HM, or on what personality traits and characteristics we admire etc., or else this forum would be pointless. Can you imagine us all jogging along and agreeing with each other with no controversy or difference of opinions?:sleep:

[Cromwell1900]

I find Aaron very easy to read. I always have. I was right about him being manipulative, devious and sly - when that was always denied by his fans. I'll know when and if he has real feelings for Faye and I'll let you know. :hmph:
Don't be holding your breath now.

Ooh the irony of being asked to show your credentials given the flow of events. It's without parallel, certainly in my living memory.:hugesmile:

[jet]

Ooh the irony of being asked to show your credentials given the flow of events. It's without parallel, certainly in my living memory.:hugesmile:

So you are mad I was right then, eh? :dance:

[tonyface]

You can't go on believing and wasting your money on a fake. If Aaron wins, it will be because nobody wants to admit they are wrong. That is going against the spirit of BB.
Harry told it like it is - as I knew he would. The minute he was evicted I thought 'here we go! I knew Aaron was going to be exposed.
Harry is from a privileged background and in my experience that usually means he has the confidence and upbringing to say what he really thinks more than your average Joe. I didn't particularly like Harry because of the foxhunting, which I am dead against!!! But he is certainly savvy and intelligent. He had Aaron's measure to a T. I could see it in the house. Anyone could who wasn't blind - just go back and listen to a few of their conversations - Harry was pretty clear that he knew Aaron was gameplaying like crazy and using Faye (remember the comment 'that's what worries me') , and he probably thought that the outside world could see it too. So he probably didn't have a clue when he came out that Aaron had so many people taken in.

Great post, and you have analysed it perfectly.:pat:

I really liked Harry, he was defo the most likeable male housemate, and nobody can say he is insincere and would not tell it exactly how it is, what possible motivation would he have to spin porkies......:hugesmile:

The reaction of Aaron's brother to Faye's mum tells you all you need to know about the Aaron family make up......:nono:

[tonyface]

I find it quite amusing that the majority of you can't (or won't) acknowledge what Harry was alluding to,Faye is being done up like a kipper (the recent "i love you")was obviously for the fans benefit(the night b4,when he had a skinful of truth serum,they wanted "different things").

Harry+aaron were probably 2 of the most intelligent H/M's this year,but with 2 very different approaches-harry decided to just be himself,boring bits and all,whereas aarons approach was different,he believes he can fool the public into thinking he is this warm lovable boy next door,whereas often we saw a cold,calculating,unforgiving,sulking character.

The fact that he was desperate to get it on with any female (Maisy or Faye)and maybe even curry some of the gay vote by deliberately toying with Tom,betrayed his character to H/M's and not a few viewers, the blatant bringing of his sons picture into the garden so that he could cry in front of the girls was a cringeworthy attempt to attract their affection (and the viewers)

Of course none of this duplicitousness would be worth a damn if it wasn't successful on the voting public buying into this nice but misunderstood persona,Harry knows this,and he knows that the public are voting for a fake,not the real character(which as occasion has shown-is somewhat different).

So his gameplan is working,not because his fans acknowledge he is playing a game,but because he has fooled them into believing that,when the reality is that his fans have been played,but because of the level of haranging that is prevalent on here and the level of mania that has set in i doubt anyone could admit that,even if they wanted to.

You got it, spot on...

Who say's they are practically in love with someone, and then on the same day, go into the diary room with a smile on your face, and try and point score over a young kid, because she has a few dreams of one day having a nice life and maybe one day owning a nice car.......:nono::nono::conf:

[Parmy]

And you got your Degree in Psychology from which university? Patronising is the word for your post. Just because the majority of us prefer Aaron to the other dross in the house, doesn't mean we're being "fooled" or "deluded". The same accusation could be levelled at fans of other HMs, but they are able to make their own opinions and minds up about who they wish to support, albeit I might raise my eyebrows and think WTF?

We can discuss the HMs as much as we like and make all sorts of judgments about them based upon our own personalities and what naturally attracts or repels us in a person. I trust my own judgment when deciding whether or not I like a person, and Aaron has shown us all the sides of his personality, the good and the bad unlike some in the house who hide behind fake smiles, placid exteriors, contrived jollity, and low profiles. Are the fans of those HMs being "fooled"? Possibly, but if so, so what? They are also being entertained, even if I am not, and that is really what the show is all about.

I watch BB for fun and Aaron has entertained me all the way through. You might think completely differently, but that's the way the cookie crumbles - we don't all agree on who is the best HM, or on what personality traits and characteristics we admire etc., or else this forum would be pointless. Can you imagine us all jogging along and agreeing with each other with no controversy or difference of opinions?:sleep:




Why not list some of his bad points then instead of constantly referring to his good points all the time?

It would give you more kudos.

[Cromwell1900]

So you are mad I was right then, eh? :dance:

No No i'll explain myself better

I find it ironic that you are asked to explain how a judgment of Aarons love could be proved, from someone who fell for the Aaron is not using Faye ploy.

The flow of events has clearly shown you are a better judge of Aaron than some of his fans. :thumbs:

[jet]

No No i'll explain myself better

I find it ironic that you are asked to explain how a judgment of Aarons love could be proved, from someone who fell for the Aaron is not using Faye ploy.

The flow of events has clearly shown you are a better judge of Aaron than some of his fans. :thumbs:

Oh I see. :blush: Thanks. :wavey:

[Bill Carson]

And you got your Degree in Psychology from which university? Patronising is the word for your post. Just because the majority of us prefer Aaron to the other dross in the house, doesn't mean we're being "fooled" or "deluded". The same accusation could be levelled at fans of other HMs, but they are able to make their own opinions and minds up about who they wish to support, albeit I might raise my eyebrows and think WTF?

We can discuss the HMs as much as we like and make all sorts of judgments about them based upon our own personalities and what naturally attracts or repels us in a person. I trust my own judgment when deciding whether or not I like a person, and Aaron has shown us all the sides of his personality, the good and the bad unlike some in the house who hide behind fake smiles, placid exteriors, contrived jollity, and low profiles. Are the fans of those HMs being "fooled"? Possibly, but if so, so what? They are also being entertained, even if I am not, and that is really what the show is all about.

I watch BB for fun and Aaron has entertained me all the way through. You might think completely differently, but that's the way the cookie crumbles - we don't all agree on who is the best HM, or on what personality traits and characteristics we admire etc., or else this forum would be pointless. Can you imagine us all jogging along and agreeing with each other with no controversy or difference of opinions?:sleep:

Why would i need to read and believe textbooks,that are after all,just someones opinion,before making a reasonable judgement?

I am very well able to use common sense to appraise a situation,but i am recently coming to the conclusion that sometimes,sense isn't all that common.

[Bill Carson]

You got it, spot on...

Who say's they are practically in love with someone, and then on the same day, go into the diary room with a smile on your face, and try and point score over a young kid, because she has a few dreams of one day having a nice life and maybe one day owning a nice car.......:nono::nono::conf:

Exactly....Now imagine the stink if Jay for example had done this!!

[JTM45]

Exactly....Now imagine the stink if Jay for example had done this!!

Imagine the stink if Jay had wiped his arse crack on your pillows! :joker:

[Cromwell1900]

Imagine the stink if Jay had wiped his arse crack on your pillows! :joker:

No Thanks, iv got a Jack Russell called Nutella that does that already.:shocked:

[BJ]

Never thought Aaron wasnt playing a game :shrug:

Still dont think hes using Faye though, no matter how many times it gets repeated :)

Agree

Aaron is a decent guy and that's why I'll continue supporting him too.

[Kazanne]

And you got your Degree in Psychology from which university? Patronising is the word for your post. Just because the majority of us prefer Aaron to the other dross in the house, doesn't mean we're being "fooled" or "deluded". The same accusation could be levelled at fans of other HMs, but they are able to make their own opinions and minds up about who they wish to support, albeit I might raise my eyebrows and think WTF?

We can discuss the HMs as much as we like and make all sorts of judgments about them based upon our own personalities and what naturally attracts or repels us in a person. I trust my own judgment when deciding whether or not I like a person, and Aaron has shown us all the sides of his personality, the good and the bad unlike some in the house who hide behind fake smiles, placid exteriors, contrived jollity, and low profiles. Are the fans of those HMs being "fooled"? Possibly, but if so, so what? They are also being entertained, even if I am not, and that is really what the show is all about.

I watch BB for fun and Aaron has entertained me all the way through. You might think completely differently, but that's the way the cookie crumbles - we don't all agree on who is the best HM, or on what personality traits and characteristics we admire etc., or else this forum would be pointless. Can you imagine us all jogging along and agreeing with each other with no controversy or difference of opinions?:sleep:

THIS^Your posts are always spot on Angus:xyxwave:

[vesavius]

Aaron is a decent guy

And certain posters on here tell me that everyone gets the game Aaron is playing, but just like him for playing it cleverely...

Now that might well be true of ome, but posts like this prove that a lot don't get his game at all, the one at their expense and on them, and have fallen for his manipulation in style.

This is a major part of why I object to him. His pushing of the public buttons... Harry gets it, as do other ex HMs, and have said it, yet people don't get it.

Aaron himself said he was going to play a game in hi VT, and yet the a lot of the public have forgotten that and consider him genuine.

I honestly think at this stage Aaron could look into the camera and say, "I think your all fools and beneath me and worthy of only my contempt and manipulation, and I will keep pushing your buttons and using you until you have no more moneyand then I will sell my stories to the mags and laugh openly at you" and people would still tune it out and say he is genuine and decent.